{"id":1309,"date":"2013-07-13T01:34:00","date_gmt":"2013-07-13T01:34:00","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/localhost\/?p=1309"},"modified":"2013-07-13T01:34:00","modified_gmt":"2013-07-13T01:34:00","slug":"40-modern-poetry-vol-09-the-future-poetry-volume-09","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/worksofthemotherandsriaurobindo.org\/index.php\/01-works-of-sri-aurobindo\/01-sabcl\/09-the-future-poetry-volume-09\/40-modern-poetry-vol-09-the-future-poetry-volume-09","title":{"rendered":"-40_Modern Poetry.htm"},"content":{"rendered":"<table border=\"0\" cellpadding=\"6\" style=\"border-collapse: collapse\" width=\"100%\">\n<tr>\n<td>\n<div class=\"Section1\">\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" align=\"center\" style='margin:0;line-height:150%'>\n<span style='font-weight:700'><font size=\"4\">s<\/font><font size=\"2\">ection <\/font><font size=\"4\"><br \/>\nf<\/font><font size=\"2\">ive<\/font><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" align=\"center\" style='margin:0;line-height:150%'><b><br \/>\n<font size=\"4\">Modern Poetry<\/font><\/b><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" align=\"center\" style='margin:0;line-height:150%'>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" align=\"center\" style='margin:0;line-height:150%'>\n<b><br \/>\n<font size=\"2\">CONTEMPORARY ENGLISH POETRY<\/font><\/b><\/p>\n<p align=\"center\" style='margin:0;text-align:center;line-height:150%'>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p align=\"center\" style='margin:0;text-align:center;line-height:150%'>\n<b>1<\/b><\/p>\n<p align=\"center\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><font size=\"4\">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; I<br \/>\n<\/font>admit I have not read as much of &quot;modern&quot; (contemporary) poetry as I<br \/>\nshould have \u2014 but the little I have is mostly of the same fundamental quality.<br \/>\nIt is very carefully written and versi\u00adfied, often <i>recherch\u00e9 <\/i><span>\u00a0<\/span>in thought and expression; it lacks only two<br \/>\nthings, the inspired phrase and inevitable word and the rhythm that keeps a<br \/>\npoem for ever alive. Speech carefully studied and made as perfect as it can be<br \/>\nwithout reaching to inspi\u00adration, verse as good as verse can be without rising<br \/>\nto inspired rhythm \u2014 there seem to be an extraordinary number of poets writing<br \/>\nlike this in England now&#8230;. It is not the irregular verses or rhymes that<br \/>\nmatter, one can make perfection out of irregula\u00adrity \u2014 it is that they write<br \/>\ntheir poetry from the cultured striving mind, not from the elemental soul-power<br \/>\nwithin. Not a principle to accept or a method to imitate!<\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" align=\"right\" style='margin:0;text-align:right;line-height:150%'>June,<br \/>\n1931<\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" align=\"center\" style='margin:0;text-align:center;line-height:150%'><b>2<\/b><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" align=\"center\" style='margin:0;text-align:center;line-height:150%'><b>&nbsp;<\/b><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'>It<br \/>\nis probably modern (contemporary) English poetry of which S is thinking. Here I<br \/>\nam no expert; but I understand that the turn there is to suppress emotion,<br \/>\nrhetoric, colouring, sentiment and arrive at something very direct, expressive,<br \/>\nrecording either the thing exactly as it is or some intimate essential truth of<br \/>\nthe thing without wrapping it up in ideas and sentiments, superfluous images<br \/>\nand epithets. It does not look as if all contemporary English poetry was like<br \/>\nthat, it is only one strong trend; but such as it is, it has not as yet<br \/>\nproduced anything very decisive, great or successful. Much of it seems to be<br \/>\nmere flat objectivity or, what is worse, an exaggerated emphatic objectivity;<br \/>\nemotion seems often to be replaced by an intensified vital-physical sensa\u00adtion<br \/>\nof the object. You will perhaps understand what I mean if you read the poem<br \/>\nquoted on pages 316 -17 of the <i>Parichaya \u2014 <\/i>&quot;red pieces of day,<br \/>\nhills made of blue and green paper, Satanic and blas\u00e9, a black goat lookingly<br \/>\nwanders&quot; \u2014 images expressing&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" align=\"center\" style='margin:0;text-align:center;line-height:150%'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;line-height:150%'>Page<br \/>\n&#8211; 441<\/span><\/p>\n<div class=\"MsoNormal\" align=\"center\" style='margin-top:3.0pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:0in;margin-left:1.0pt;margin-bottom:.0001pt;text-align:center;line-height:150%'><b><i><span style='font-size:10.0pt;line-height:150%;color:blue'><\/p>\n<hr size=\"2\" width=\"100%\" align=\"center\">\n<p><\/span><\/i><\/b><\/div>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;text-indent:-1.0pt;line-height:150%'>vividly an impression made on the nerves through the<br \/>\nsight of the described objects. Admittedly it is \u2014 at least when pushed to such<br \/>\na degree \u2014 a new way of looking at things in poetry, but not essentially<br \/>\nsuperior to the impressions created on the heart and the mental imagination by<br \/>\nthe objects. All the same, there is behind, but still not successfully achieved,<br \/>\nthe possibility of a real advance, an attempt to get away from ornate mental<br \/>\nconstruc\u00adtions about things to the expression of the intimate truth of the<br \/>\nthings themselves as directly seen by a deeper sight within us. Only it seems<br \/>\nto me a mistake to theorise that only by this kind of technique and in this<br \/>\nparticular way can what is aimed at be done.&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" align=\"center\" style='margin:0;text-align:center;text-indent:-1.0pt;line-height:150%'><b>3<\/b><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" align=\"center\" style='margin:0;text-align:center;text-indent:-1.0pt;line-height:150%'><b>&nbsp;<\/b><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;text-indent:-1.0pt;line-height:150%'>Somebody said of modernist poetry that it could be<br \/>\nunderstood only by the writer himself and appreciated by a few friends who<br \/>\npretended to understand it. That is because the ideas, images, symbols do not<br \/>\nfollow the line of the intellect, its logic or its in\u00adtuitive connections, but<br \/>\nare pushed out on the mind from some obscure subliminal depth or mist-hung<br \/>\nshallow; they have con\u00adnections of their own which are not those of the surface<br \/>\nintelli\u00adgence. One has to read them not with the intellect but with the solar<br \/>\nplexus, try not to understand but feel the meaning. The surrealist poetry is<br \/>\nthe extreme of this kind \u2014 you remember our surrealist B\u2019s question: &quot;Why<br \/>\ndo you want poetry to have a meaning?&quot; Of course you can put an<br \/>\nintellectual explanation on the thing, but then you destroy its poetical<br \/>\nappeal. Very great poetry can be written in that way from the subliminal<br \/>\ndepths, e.g. Mallarm\u00e9, but if needs a supreme power of expression, like Blake&#8217;s<br \/>\nor Mallarme&#8217;s, to make it truly powerful and convincing, and there must be<br \/>\nsincerity of experience and significant rhythm. <\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" align=\"right\" style='margin:0;text-align:right;text-indent:-1.0pt;line-height:150%'>2.8.1943<\/p>\n<p class=\"FR2\" align=\"center\" style='margin:0;text-align:center;text-indent:0in;line-height:150%'><b><span style='font-size:12.0pt;line-height:150%'>4<\/span><\/b><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'>The<br \/>\nremark<sup><span style='font-size:10.0pt;line-height:150%'>1<\/span><\/sup> of<br \/>\nLivingstone Lowes is no doubt correct. Even<\/p>\n<p class=\"FR1\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p class=\"FR1\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'>\n<span style='line-height:150%;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'><font size=\"2\">\u00b9 <\/font> <\/span><br \/>\n<span style='line-height:150%;font-family:\"Times New Roman\";font-weight:normal;font-style:normal'><font size=\"2\">About modern English poetry of the early part of this century<br \/>\nLivingstone Lowes, writing in 1918, remarks in his Convention and Revolt in<br \/>\nPoetry: &quot;That which does allure it in the East is an amazing tininess and finesse<br \/>\n\u2014 the delicacy, that is to say, and the deft\u00adness, and the crystalline quality<br \/>\nof the verse of China <\/font><\/span><font size=\"2\"><br \/>\n<span style='line-height:150%;font-family:\"Times New Roman\";font-weight:normal;font-style:normal'>and<br \/>\nJapan&#8230;. The strange, the remote, in its larger, more broadly human aspect \u2014<br \/>\nall this has been gradually losing its hold upon poetry. Instead, when we fly<br \/>\nfrom the obsession of the familiar, it is growingly apt to be the more<br \/>\nrecondite, or precious, or quintessential, or even perverse embodiments of the<br \/>\nstrange or far \u2014 to &#8216;the special exquisite perfume&#8217; of Oriental art; to the<br \/>\nexceptional and the esoteric, in a word, rather than to the perennial and<br \/>\nuniversal.&quot; He quotes as a speci\u00admen of Imagist verse:<\/span><\/font><\/p>\n<p class=\"FR1\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'>\n<font size=\"2\"><br \/>\n<span style='line-height:150%;font-family:\"Times New Roman\";font-weight:normal;font-style:normal'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; We bring the hyacinth-fiolets,<br \/>\nsweet, bare, chill to the touch.<\/span><\/font><span style='line-height:150%;font-family:\"Times New Roman\";font-weight:normal;font-style:normal'><font size=\"2\">&nbsp;<\/font><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"FR1\" align=\"center\" style='margin:0;text-align:center;line-height:150%'>\n<span style='font-size:10.0pt;line-height:150%;font-family:\"Times New Roman\";font-weight:normal;font-style:normal'>Page \u2013 442<\/span><\/p>\n<div class=\"FR1\" align=\"center\" style='margin-top:1.0pt;text-align:center;line-height:150%'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;line-height:150%;color:blue'><\/p>\n<hr size=\"2\" width=\"100%\" align=\"center\">\n<p><\/span><\/div>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;line-height:150%'>now and even where it is the<br \/>\nexternal, everyday, obvious that is being taken as theme, we see often enough<br \/>\nthat what the mind is trying to find is some recondite, precious or<br \/>\nquintessential aspect of the everyday and obvious \u2014 something in it exceptional<br \/>\nor esoteric. But while in the East, the way to do it is known, the West does<br \/>\nnot seem yet to have found it. Instead of going inside, getting intimate with<br \/>\nwhat is behind, and writing of the outside also from that inside experience,<br \/>\nthey are still trying to stare through the surface into the inner depths with<br \/>\nsome X-ray of mental imagination or &quot;intuition&quot; and the result is not<br \/>\nthe quint\u00adessence itself but a shadow-picture of the quintessence. That is<br \/>\nperhaps why there is so much feeling of effort, artifice, &quot;even perverse<br \/>\nembodiment&quot; in much of this poetry\u2014and no very definitive success as yet.<br \/>\nBut, I suppose, the way itself, the en\u00addeavour to leave the obvious surfaces<br \/>\nand get deeper is the only road left for poetry, otherwise it can but repeat<br \/>\nitself in the old modes with slight alterations till exhaustion brings<br \/>\ndecadence. On the road that is being now followed there is also evident dan\u00adger<br \/>\nof decadence, through an excess of mere technique and arti\u00adfice or through a<br \/>\nstraining towards the merely out-of-the-way or the perverse. But there seems to<br \/>\nbe no other door of progress than to make the endeavour.<\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" align=\"right\" style='margin:0;text-align:right;line-height:150%'>10.10.1932<\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" align=\"center\" style='margin:0;text-align:center;line-height:150%'><b><font size=\"2\">MODERN ART AND POETRY<\/font><\/b><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" align=\"center\" style='margin:0;text-align:center;line-height:150%'>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'>Not only are there no boundaries left in some arts (like poetry of the<br \/>\nultra-modern schools or painting) but no foundations and no Art either. I am<br \/>\nreferring to the modernist painters and to<br \/>\n&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" align=\"center\" style='margin:0;text-align:center;line-height:150%'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;line-height:150%'>Page<br \/>\n&#8211; 443<\/span><\/p>\n<div class=\"MsoNormal\" align=\"center\" style='margin-top:13.0pt;text-align:center;line-height:150%'><b><i><span style='font-size:10.0pt;line-height:150%;color:blue'><\/p>\n<hr size=\"2\" width=\"100%\" align=\"center\">\n<p><\/span><\/i><\/b><\/div>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'>the<br \/>\nextraordinary verbal jazz which is nowadays often put for\u00adward as poetry.<\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;text-indent:24.0pt;line-height:150%'>Modern Art opines that beauty is functional! that is, what\u00adever serves<br \/>\nits function or serves a true purpose is artistic and beautiful \u2014 for instance,<br \/>\nif a clerk produces a neat copy of an official letter without mistakes, the<br \/>\nclerk and his copy are both of them works of art and beautiful!<\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" align=\"right\" style='margin:0;text-align:right;line-height:150%'>March,<br \/>\n1935<\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" align=\"center\" style='margin:0;text-align:center;line-height:150%'><span style='font-weight:700'><br \/>\n<font size=\"2\">LATEST TREND IN<br \/>\nENGLISH POETRY<\/font><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" align=\"center\" style='margin:0;text-align:center;line-height:150%'><b>1<\/b><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'>The<br \/>\nlatest craze in England<br \/>\nis either for intellectual quintessence or sensations of life, while any<br \/>\nemotional and ideal element in poetry is considered as a deadly sin. But<br \/>\nbeautiful poetry remains beautiful poetry even if it is not in the current<br \/>\nstyle. And after all, Yeats and. A.E. are still there in spite of this new<br \/>\nfashion of the last one or two decades.<\/p>\n<p class=\"FR2\" align=\"center\" style='margin:0;text-align:center;text-indent:0in;line-height:150%'><b><span style='font-size:12.0pt;line-height:150%'>2<\/span><\/b><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'>There<br \/>\nis room for sex poetry if it is felt as truth and rendered either with beauty<br \/>\nor power, but this crude braggadocio of the flesh is not telling nor<br \/>\nattractive. The diabolism and cult of the bizarre in the nineties had a certain<br \/>\nmeaning, \u2014 it was at least a revolt against false conventions and an attempt to<br \/>\nescape from the furbished obviousness of much that had gone before. But now it<br \/>\nhas itself become the obvious and conventional \u2014 not it exactly in its old form<br \/>\nbut the things it attempted to release and these are now trying to escape from<br \/>\ntheir own obviousness by excess, the grotesque, the perverse.<\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" align=\"right\" style='margin:0;text-align:right;line-height:150%'>1932<\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:center;line-height:150%'><span style='font-weight:700'><font size=\"2\">IMPRESS OF THE ADVERSE VITAL<br \/>\nWORLD ON MODERN LITERATURE AND ART<\/font><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:center;line-height:150%'>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'>It<sup><span style='font-size:10.0pt;line-height:150%'>1<\/span><\/sup> is<br \/>\nevidently inspired from the vital world \u2014 from a certain<\/p>\n<p class=\"FR1\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><sup><br \/>\n<span style='line-height:150%;font-family:\"Times New Roman\";font-weight:normal'><font size=\"1\">1<\/font><\/span><\/sup><span style='line-height:150%;font-family:\"Times New Roman\";font-weight:normal'><font size=\"2\"> Limber Horses<\/font><\/span><span style='line-height:150%;font-family:\"Times New Roman\";font-weight:normal;font-style:normal'><font size=\"2\">, a poem in <\/font> <\/span><br \/>\n<span style='line-height:150%;font-family:\"Times New Roman\";font-weight:normal'><br \/>\n<font size=\"2\">The<br \/>\nNew Statesman and the Nation<\/font><\/span><font size=\"2\"><span style='line-height:150%;font-family:\"Times New Roman\";font-weight:normal;font-style:normal'> in perhaps 1932.<\/span><\/font><span style='line-height:150%;font-family:\"Times New Roman\";font-weight:normal;font-style:normal'><font size=\"2\">&nbsp;<\/font><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"FR1\" align=\"center\" style='margin:0;text-align:center;line-height:150%'>\n<span style='font-size:10.0pt;line-height:150%;font-family:\"Times New Roman\";font-weight:normal;font-style:normal'>Page &#8211; 444<\/span><\/p>\n<div class=\"FR1\" align=\"center\" style='margin-top:4.0pt;text-align:center;line-height:150%'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;line-height:150%;color:blue;font-weight:normal;font-style:normal'><\/p>\n<hr size=\"2\" width=\"100%\" align=\"center\">\n<p><\/span><\/div>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'>part of it which<br \/>\nseems to be breaking out in much of today&#8217;s literature and art. All that comes<br \/>\nfrom this source is full of a strange kind of force, but out of focus,<br \/>\nmis-shaped in thought or vision or feeling, sometimes in the form too, ominous<br \/>\nand per\u00adverse. For that matter, the adverse vital world is very much with us<br \/>\nnow, \u2014 the War was the sign of its desent on the earth and After-war bears its<br \/>\nimpress. But from another point of view that is not a cause for alarm or discouragement<br \/>\n\u2014 for it has always been predicted from occult sources that such a descent<br \/>\nwould be the precursor of the Divine Manifestation.<\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" align=\"center\" style='margin:0;text-align:center;line-height:150%'><span style='font-weight:700'><br \/>\n<font size=\"2\">SURREALIST POETRY<\/font><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" align=\"center\" style='margin:0;text-align:center;line-height:150%'><b>1<\/b><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'>I<br \/>\nreally can&#8217;t tell you what surrealism is, because it is something \u2014 at least<br \/>\nthe word is \u2014 quite new and I have neither read the reliable theorists of the<br \/>\nschool nor much of their poetry. What I picked up on the way was through<br \/>\nreviews and quotations, the upshot being that it is a poetry based on the<br \/>\ndream-con\u00adsciousness, but I don&#8217;t know if this is correct or merely an English critic&#8217;s<br \/>\nidea of it. The inclusion of Baudelaire and Val\u00e9ry seems to indicate something<br \/>\nwider than that. But he word is of quite recent origin and nobody spoke<br \/>\nformerly of Baudelaire as a surrealist or even of Mallarrn\u00e9. Mallarm\u00e9 was<br \/>\nsupposed to be the founder of a new trend of poetry, impression\u00adist and<br \/>\nsymbolist, followed in varying degrees and not by any means in the same way by<br \/>\nVerlaine and Rimbaud, both of them poets of great fame. Verlaine is certainly a<br \/>\ngreat poet and people now say Rimbaud also, but I have never come across his<br \/>\npoetry except in extracts. This strain has developed in Val\u00e9ry and other noted<br \/>\nwriters of today. It seems that all these are now claimed as part of or the<br \/>\norigin of the surrealist movement. But I cannot say what are the exact<br \/>\nboundaries or who comes in where. In any case, surrealism is part of an<br \/>\nincreasing attempt of the European mind to escape from the surface<br \/>\nconsciousness (in poetry as well as in painting and in thought) and grope after<br \/>\na deeper truth of<\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" align=\"center\" style='margin:0;text-align:center;line-height:150%'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;line-height:150%'>Page<br \/>\n&#8211; 445<\/span><\/p>\n<hr>\n<p style=\"line-height: 150%;margin: 0\">things<br \/>\nwhich is hot on the surface. The dream-consciousness as it is called \u2014 meaning<br \/>\nnot merely what we see in dreams, but<\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'>the<br \/>\ninner consciousness in which we get into contact with deeper worlds which<br \/>\nunderlie, influence and to some extent explain much in our lives, what the<br \/>\npsychologists call the subliminal or the subconscient (the latter a very<br \/>\nambiguous phrase) \u2014 offers the first road of escape and the surrealists seem to<br \/>\nbe trying to force it. My impression is that there is much fumbling and that<br \/>\nmore often it is certain obscure and not always very safe layers that are<br \/>\ntapped. That accounts for the note of diabolism that comes in in Baudelaire, in<br \/>\nRimbaud also, I believe, and in certain ugly elements in English surrealist<br \/>\npoetry and painting. But this is only an impression.<\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;text-indent:.5in;line-height:150%'>N\u2019s<br \/>\npoetry (what he writes now) is from the dream-con\u00adsciousness, no doubt about<br \/>\nthat. My labelling him as surrealist is partly \u2014 though not altogether \u2014 a<br \/>\njoke. How far it applies depends on what the real aim and theory of the<br \/>\nsurrealist school may be. Obscurity and unintelligibility are not the essence<br \/>\nof any poetry and \u2014 except for unconscious or semi-conscious humo\u00adrists like<br \/>\nthe Dadaists\u2014cannot be its aim or principle. True dream-poetry (let us call it<br \/>\nso for the nonce) has and must always have a meaning and a coherence. But it<br \/>\nmay very well be obscure or seem meaningless to those who take their stand on<br \/>\nthe surface or &quot;waking&quot; mind and accept only its links and logic.<br \/>\nDream-poetry is usually full of images, visions, symbols that seek to strike at<br \/>\nthings too deep for the ordinary means of expression N does not deliberately<br \/>\nmake his poems obscure; he writes what comes through from the source he has<br \/>\ntapped and does not inter\u00adfere with its flow by his own mental volition. In<br \/>\nmany modernist poets there may be labour and a deliberate posturing, but it is<br \/>\nnot so in his case. I interpret his poems because he wants me to do it, but I<br \/>\nhave always told him that an intellectual rendering narrows the meaning \u2014 it<br \/>\nhas to be seen and felt, not thought out. Thinking it out may give a<br \/>\nsatisfaction and an appearance of mental logicality, but the deeper sense and<br \/>\nsequence can only be apprehended by an inner sense. I myself do not try to find<br \/>\nout the meaning of his poems, I try to feel what they mean in vision and<br \/>\nexperience and then render into mental terms. This is a&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" align=\"center\" style='margin:0;text-align:center;line-height:150%'>\n<span style='font-size:10.0pt;line-height:150%'>Page &#8211; 446<\/span><\/p>\n<div class=\"MsoNormal\" align=\"center\" style='text-align:center;line-height:150%'><b><i><span style='font-size:10.0pt;line-height:150%;color:blue'><\/p>\n<hr size=\"2\" width=\"100%\" align=\"center\">\n<p><\/span><\/i><\/b><\/div>\n<p style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'>special kind of poetry and has<br \/>\nto be dealt with according to its kind and nature. There is a sequence, a<br \/>\nlogic, a design in them, but not one that can satisfy the more rigid law of the<br \/>\nlogical intelligence.<\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;text-indent:23.0pt;line-height:150%'>About Housman&#8217;s theory: it is not merely an appeal to emo\u00adtion that he<br \/>\nposits as the test of pure poetry; he deliberately says that pure poetry does<br \/>\nnot bother about intellectual meaning at all, it ^s to the intellect nonsense.<br \/>\nHe says that the interpretations of Blake&#8217;s famous poems rather spoil them \u2014<br \/>\nthey appeal better without being dissected in that way. His theory is<br \/>\nquestionable, but that is what it comes to; he is wrong in using the word<br \/>\n&quot;non\u00adsense&quot; and perhaps in speaking of pure and impure poetry. All<br \/>\nthe same, to Blake and to writers of the dream-consciousness, his rejection of<br \/>\nthe intellectual standard is quite applicable.<\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" align=\"right\" style='margin:0;text-align:right;line-height:150%'>12.2.1937<\/p>\n<p class=\"FR2\" align=\"center\" style='margin:0;text-align:center;text-indent:0in;line-height:150%'><b><span style='font-size:12.0pt;line-height:150%'>2<\/span><\/b><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'>About your points regarding surrealism:<\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;text-indent:22.0pt;line-height:150%'>1. If the surrealist dream-experiences are flat, pointless or ugly, it<br \/>\nmust be because they penetrate only as far as the &quot;sub\u00adconscious&quot;<br \/>\nphysical and &quot;subconscious&quot; vital dream layers which are the strata<br \/>\nnearest to the surface. Dream-consciousness is a vast world in which there are<br \/>\na multitude of provinces and king\u00addoms, but ordinary dreamers for the most part<br \/>\npenetrate con\u00adsciously only to these first layers which belong to what may pro\u00adperly<br \/>\nbe called the subconscious belt. When they pass into deeper sleep regions,<br \/>\ntheir recording surface dream-mind becomes un\u00adconscious and no longer gives any<br \/>\ntranscript of what is seen and experienced there; or else in coming back these<br \/>\nexperiences of the deeper strata fade away and are quite forgotten before one<br \/>\nreaches the waking state. But when there is a stronger dream-capacity, or the<br \/>\ndream-state becomes more conscious, then one is aware of these deeper<br \/>\nexperiences and can bring back a tran\u00adscript which is sometimes a clear record,<br \/>\nsometimes a hieroglyph, but in either case possessed of a considerable interest<br \/>\nand significance.<\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;text-indent:22.0pt;line-height:150%'>2. It is only the subconscious belt that is chaotic in its&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" align=\"center\" style='margin:0;text-align:center;line-height:150%'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;line-height:150%'>Page<br \/>\n&#8211; 447<\/span><\/p>\n<div class=\"MsoNormal\" align=\"center\" style='margin-top:1.0pt;text-align:center;line-height:150%'><b><i><span style='font-size:10.0pt;line-height:150%;color:blue'><\/p>\n<hr size=\"2\" width=\"100%\" align=\"center\">\n<p><\/span><\/i><\/b><\/div>\n<p style='margin:0;line-height:150%'>dream sequences; for its transcriptions are<br \/>\nfantastic and often mixed, combining a jumble of different elements: some play<br \/>\nwith impressions from the past, some translate outward touches press\u00ading on the<br \/>\nsleep-mind; most are fragments from successive dream experiences that are not<br \/>\nreally part of one connected experience \u2014 as if a gramophone record were to be<br \/>\nmade up of snatches of different songs all jumbled together. The vital dreams<br \/>\neven in the subconscious range are often coherent in themselves and only seem<br \/>\nincoherent to the waking intelligence because the logic and law of their<br \/>\nsequences is different from the logic and law which the physical reason imposes<br \/>\non the incoherences of physi\u00adcal life. But if one gets the guiding clue and if<br \/>\none has some dream-experience and dream-insight, then it is possible to seize<br \/>\nthe links of the sequences and make out the significance, often very pro\u00adfound<br \/>\nor very striking, both of the detail and of the whole. Deeper in, we come to<br \/>\nperfectly coherent dreams recording the expe\u00adrience of the inner vital and<br \/>\ninner mental planes; there are also true psychic dreams \u2014 the latter usually<br \/>\nare of a great beauty. Some of these mental or vital plane dream-experiences,<br \/>\nhowever, are symbolic, very many in fact, and can only be understood if one is<br \/>\nfamiliar with or gets the clue to the symbols.<\/p>\n<p style='margin:0;text-indent:.5in;line-height:150%'>3. It depends on the nature of the<br \/>\ndream. If they are of the right kind, they need no aid of imagination to be<br \/>\nconverted into poetry. If they are significant, imagination in the sense of a<br \/>\nfree use of mental invention might injure their truth and meaning<\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'>\u2014 unless of<br \/>\ncourse the imagination is of the nature of an inspired vision coming from the<br \/>\nsame plane and filling out or reconstruct\u00ading the recorded experience so as to<br \/>\nbring out the Truth held in it more fully than the dream transcript could do;<br \/>\nfor a dream record is usually compressed and often hastily selective.<\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;text-indent:.5in;line-height:150%'>4.<br \/>\nThe word &quot;psyche&quot; is used by most people to mean any\u00adthing belonging<br \/>\nto the inner mind, vital or physical, though the true psyche is different from<br \/>\nthese things. Poetry does come from these sources or even from the<br \/>\nsuperconscient sometimes; but it does not come usually through the form of<br \/>\ndreams; it comes either through word-vision or through conscious vision and<br \/>\nimagery whether in a fully waking or an inward-drawn state: the latter may go so<br \/>\nfar as to be a state of Samadhi <\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" align=\"center\" style='margin:0;text-align:center;line-height:150%'>\n<span style='font-size:10.0pt;line-height:150%'>Page &#8211; 448<\/span><\/p>\n<div class=\"MsoNormal\" align=\"center\" style='text-align:center;line-height:150%'><b><i><span style='font-size:10.0pt;line-height:150%;color:blue'><\/p>\n<hr size=\"2\" width=\"100%\" align=\"center\">\n<p><\/span><\/i><\/b><\/div>\n<p style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><i>svapna sam&#257;dhi.<\/i> In<br \/>\nall these cases it is vision rather than dream that is the imaging power.<br \/>\nDreams also can be made a material for poetry; but everyone who dreams or has<br \/>\nvisions or has a flow of images cannot by that fact be a poet. To say that a<br \/>\npre\u00addisposition and discipline are needed to bring them to light in the form of<br \/>\nwritten words is merely a way of saying that it is not enough to be a dreamer,<br \/>\none must have the poetic faculty and some training \u2014 unless the surrealists<br \/>\nmean by this statement something else than what the words naturally signify.<br \/>\nWhat is possible, however, is that by going into the inner (what is usually<br \/>\ncalled the subliminal) consciousness \u2014 this is not really subcon\u00adscious but a<br \/>\nveiled or occult consciousness \u2014 or getting somehow into contact with it, one<br \/>\nnot originally a poet can awake to poetic inspiration and power. No poetry can<br \/>\nbe written without access to some source of inspiration. Mere recording of<br \/>\ndreams or images or even visions could never be sufficient, unless it is a<br \/>\npoetic inspiration that records them with the right use of words and rhythm<br \/>\nbringing out their poetic substance. On the other hand, I am bound to admit<br \/>\nthat among the records of dream-experiences even from people unpractised in<br \/>\nwriting, I have met with a good many that read like a brilliant and colourful<br \/>\npoetry which does hit \u2014 satisfying Housman\u2019s test \u2014 the solar plexus. So much I<br \/>\ncan concede to the surrealist theory; but if they say on that basis that all<br \/>\ncan with a little training turn themselves into poets \u2014 well, one needs a<br \/>\nlittle more proof before one can accept so wide a statement.<\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:right;line-height:150%'>13.2.1937<\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:right;line-height:150%'>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'>How do you say the vital dreams have no link or reason? They have their<br \/>\nown coherence, only the physical mind cannot always get at the clue by<br \/>\nfollowing which the coherence would unroll itself. For that matter the<br \/>\nsequences of physical existence are coherent to us only because we are<br \/>\naccustomed to it and our reason has made up a meaning out of it. But subject it<br \/>\nto the view of a different consciousness and it becomes an incoherent phantasmagoria.<br \/>\nThat is how the Mayavadins or Schopenhauer<\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:center;line-height:150%'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;line-height:150%'>Page<br \/>\n&#8211; 449<\/span><\/p>\n<hr>\n<p style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'>would speak of it, the former<br \/>\nsay deliberately that dream-sequences and life-sequences stand on the same<br \/>\nfooting, only they have another structure. Each is real and consequent to itself,<br \/>\nthough neither, they would say, is real or consequent in very truth.<\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" align=\"right\" style='margin:0;text-align:right;line-height:150%'>17.1.1937<\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" align=\"right\" style='margin:0;text-align:center;line-height:150%'><font size=\"2\">Page &#8211; 450<\/font><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<\/table>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>section five Modern Poetry &nbsp; CONTEMPORARY ENGLISH POETRY &nbsp; 1 &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; I admit I have not read as much of &quot;modern&quot; (contemporary) poetry as I&#8230;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[29],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-1309","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-09-the-future-poetry-volume-09","wpcat-29-id"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/worksofthemotherandsriaurobindo.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1309","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/worksofthemotherandsriaurobindo.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/worksofthemotherandsriaurobindo.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/worksofthemotherandsriaurobindo.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/worksofthemotherandsriaurobindo.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=1309"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/worksofthemotherandsriaurobindo.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1309\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/worksofthemotherandsriaurobindo.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=1309"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/worksofthemotherandsriaurobindo.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=1309"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/worksofthemotherandsriaurobindo.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=1309"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}