{"id":1486,"date":"2013-07-13T01:35:08","date_gmt":"2013-07-13T01:35:08","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/localhost\/?p=1486"},"modified":"2013-07-13T01:35:08","modified_gmt":"2013-07-13T01:35:08","slug":"90-an-answer-to-a-criticism-vol-05-collected-poems-volume-05","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/worksofthemotherandsriaurobindo.org\/index.php\/01-works-of-sri-aurobindo\/01-sabcl\/05-collected-poems-volume-05\/90-an-answer-to-a-criticism-vol-05-collected-poems-volume-05","title":{"rendered":"-90_An Answer to a Criticism.htm"},"content":{"rendered":"<div align=\"center\">\n<div align=\"center\">\n<p align=\"center\" style=\"margin-top: 0;margin-bottom: 0;line-height:150%\">\n\t\t<font size=\"4\"><b><br \/>\n<span lang=\"EN-US\">Answer<br \/>\nto a Criticism * <\/span><\/b><\/font><\/p>\n<p align=\"center\" style=\"margin-top: 0;margin-bottom: 0;line-height:150%\">\n\t\t&nbsp;<\/p>\n<table border=\"0\" cellpadding=\"4\" style=\"border-collapse: collapse\" width=\"100%\">\n<tr>\n<td>\n<p style=\"margin-top: 0;margin-bottom: 0;line-height:150%\" align=\"justify\">\n<span lang=\"EN-US\"><br \/>\n<b>M<\/b>ilford accepts the rule that two consonants after a short vowel make the short<br \/>\nvowel long, even if they are outside the word and come in another word following<br \/>\nit. To my mind that is an absurdity. I shall go on pronouncing the <i>y<\/i> of <i>frosty<\/i><br \/>\nas short whether it has two consonants after it or only one or none; it remains<br \/>\n&quot;<i>frosty<\/i> whether it is a <i>frosty scalp<\/i> or <i>frosty top<\/i> or<br \/>\na frosty anything. In no case have I pronounced it or could I consent to<br \/>\npronounce it as <i>frostee<\/i>. My hexameters are intended to be read naturally<br \/>\nas one would read any English sentence. But if you admit a short syllable to be<br \/>\nlong whenever there are two consonants after it, then Bridges&#8217; scansions are<br \/>\nperfectly justified. Milford does not accept that conclusion; he says Bridges&#8217;<br \/>\nscansions are an absurdity. But he bases this on his idea that quantitative<br \/>\nlength does not count in English verse. It is intonation that makes the metre,<br \/>\nhe says; high tones or low tones &#8211; not longs and shorts, and stress is there of<br \/>\nthe greatest importance. On that ground he refuses to discuss my idea of weight<br \/>\nor dwelling of the voice or admit quantity or anything else but tone as<br \/>\ndeterminative of the metre and declares that there is no such thing as metrical<br \/>\nlength. Perhaps also that is the reason why he counts <i>frosty<\/i> as a spondee<br \/>\nbefore <i>scalp<\/i>; he thinks that it causes it to be intoned in a different<br \/>\nway. I don&#8217;t see how it does that; for my part, I intone it just the same before<br \/>\n<i>top<\/i> as before <i>scalp<\/i>. The ordinary theory is, I believe, that the <i>sc<\/i><br \/>\nof <i>scalp<\/i> acts as a sort of stile (because of the two consonants) which<br \/>\nyou take time to cross, so that <i>ty<\/i> must be considered as long because of<br \/>\nthis delay of the voice, while the <i>t<\/i> of <i>top<\/i> is merely a line<br \/>\nacross the path which gives no trouble. I don&#8217;t see it like that; at most, <i>scalp<\/i><br \/>\nis a slightly longer word than <i>top<\/i> and that affects pethaps the rhythm of<br \/>\nthe line but not the metre; it cannot lengthen the preceding syllable so as to<br \/>\nturn a trochee into a spondee. Santkrit quantitation is irrelevant here (it is<br \/>\nthe same as Latin or Greek in this <\/span><span lang=\"EN-US\"><\/p>\n<p><\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"margin-top: 0;margin-bottom: 0;line-height:150%\">&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p style=\"margin-top: 0;margin-bottom: 0;line-height:150%\">\n<span lang=\"EN-US\"><br \/>\n<b>*<\/b><font size=\"2\">Apropos<br \/>\nof Ahana, an English critic made some comments on the poet&#8217;s system of<br \/>\n&quot;true English Quantity&quot; as set forth in his essay &quot;On<br \/>\nQuantitative Metre&quot;. Sri Aurobindo examines them in this letter replying to<br \/>\na disciple&#8217;s queries.<\/font><\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"margin-top: 0;margin-bottom: 0;line-height:150%\" align=\"center\">\n<font size=\"2\"><br \/>\n<span lang=\"EN-US\">&nbsp;<br \/>\n <span style=\"font-family: Nimbus Roman No9 L\">Page<br \/>\n&#8211; 551<\/span><\/span><\/font><\/p>\n<hr>\n<p style=\"margin-top: 0;margin-bottom: 0;line-height:150%\">\n<span lang=\"EN-US\">respect),<br \/>\nfor both Milford and I agree that the classical quantitative conventions are not<br \/>\nreproducible in English: we both spew out Bridges&#8217; eccentric rhythms. <\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"margin-top: 0;margin-bottom: 0;line-height:150%\" align=\"justify\">\n<span lang=\"EN-US\">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<br \/>\nThis answers also your question as to what Milford means by &#8216;fundamental<br \/>\nconfusion&#8217; regarding <i>aridity<\/i>. He refuses to accept the idea of metrical<br \/>\nlength. But I am concerned with metrical as well as natural vowel quantities. My<br \/>\ntheory is that natural length in English depends, or can depend, on the dwelling<br \/>\nof the voice giving metrical value or weight to the syllable; in quantitative<br \/>\nverse one has to take account of all such dwelling or weight of the voice, both<br \/>\nweight by ictus (stress) and weight by prolongation of the voice (ordinary<br \/>\nsyllabic length); the two are different, but for metrical purposes in a<br \/>\nquantitative verse can rank as of equal value. I do not say that stress turns a<br \/>\nshort vowel into a long one.<br \/>\n&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Milford does not take the trouble to understand my theory &#8211; he ignores the<br \/>\nimportance I give to modulations and treats cretics and antibacchii and molossi<br \/>\nas if they were dactyls; he ignores my objection to stressing short<br \/>\ninsignificant words like <i>and, with, but, the<\/i> &#8211; and thinks that I do that<br \/>\neverywhere, which would be to ignore my theory. In fact I have scrupulously<br \/>\napplied my theory in every detail of my practice. Take, for instance (<i>Ahana<\/i>,<br \/>\np. 523),<\/p>\n<p>Art thou not heaven-bound even as I with the earth? Hast thou<br \/>\n&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;ended&#8230;<\/p>\n<p>Here <i>art<\/i> is long by natural quantity though unstressed, which disproves<br \/>\nMilford&#8217;s criticism that in practice I never put an unstressed long as the first<br \/>\nsyllable of a dactyllic foot or spondee, as I should do by my theory. I don&#8217;t do<br \/>\nit often because normally in English rhythm stress bears the foot &#8211; a fact to<br \/>\nwhich I have given full emphasis in my theory. That is the reason why I condemn<br \/>\nthe Bridgesean disregard of stress in the rhythm, &#8211; still I do it occasionally<br \/>\nwhenever it can come in quite naturally.<font face=\"Times New Roman\">\u00b9<\/font> My<br \/>\n,<br \/>\n<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"margin-top: 0;margin-bottom: 0;line-height:150%\">&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p style=\"margin-top: 0;margin-bottom: 0;line-height:150%\">\n<span lang=\"EN-US\"><br \/>\n<font face=\"Times New Roman\">\u00b9<\/font><font size=\"2\">(<i>E.g.<\/i><br \/>\nOpening tribrachs are very frequent in my hexameter. <i>Cf. Ahana,<\/i> p. 524.<br \/>\n<\/font><br \/>\n<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"margin-top: 0;margin-bottom: 0;line-height:150%\">\n<span lang=\"EN-US\"><br \/>\n<font size=\"2\">Is He then first? Was there none then before Him? Shall none come after?<br \/>\n<\/font><br \/>\n<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"margin-top: 0;margin-bottom: 0;line-height:150%\">\n<span lang=\"EN-US\"><br \/>\n<font size=\"2\">But<br \/>\nMilford thinks I have stressed the first short syllable to make them into<br \/>\ndactyls &#8211; a thing I abhor. <i>Cf.<\/i> also <i>Ahana,<\/i> p. 530 (initial<br \/>\nanapaest): <\/font> <\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"margin-top: 0;margin-bottom: 0;line-height:150%\" align=\"center\">\n<span lang=\"EN-US\" style=\"font-family: Nimbus Roman No9 L\"><br \/>\n<font size=\"2\"><br \/>\nPage \u2013 552<\/p>\n<p> <\/font><br \/>\n<\/span><\/p>\n<hr>\n<p style=\"margin-top: 0;margin-bottom: 0;line-height:150%\" align=\"left\">\n<span lang=\"EN-US\">qantitative<br \/>\nsystem, as I have shown at great length, is based on the natural movement of the<br \/>\nEnglish tongue, the same in prose and poetry, not on any artificial theory.<br \/>\n<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"margin-top: 0;margin-bottom: 0;line-height:150%\" align=\"right\">\n<span lang=\"EN-US\"><br \/>\n<font size=\"2\">24-12-1942<\/font><\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"margin-top: 0;margin-bottom: 0;line-height:150%\">\n<span lang=\"EN-US\"><br \/>\n<font size=\"2\">&#298;n<br \/>\nth&#277; h&#257;rd | reckoning made by the grey-robed accountant at even,<br \/>\nor p. 530 (two anapaests):<br \/>\nY&#277;t s&#365;rv&#299;ves | bliss in the rhythm of our heart-beats, y&#277;t<br \/>\n&#301;s th&#277;re | wonder,<br \/>\nor again p. 532:<br \/>\n&#258;nd w&#277; g&#333; | stumbling, maddened and thrilled to his dreadful<br \/>\nembraces,<br \/>\nor in my poem <i>Ilion<\/i> p. 393:<br \/>\n&#258;nd th&#277; first | Argive fell slain as he leaped on the Phrygian<br \/>\nbeaches.<br \/>\nThere are even opening amphibrachs here and there. <i>Cf. Ahana,<\/i> p: 527:<br \/>\n&#300;ll&#365;m&#301;|nations, trance-seeds of silence, flowers of musing.<br \/>\n<\/font><br \/>\n<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"margin-top: 0;margin-bottom: 0;line-height:150%\" align=\"center\">\n<span lang=\"EN-US\" style=\"font-family: Nimbus Roman No9 L\"><br \/>\n<font size=\"2\">Page<br \/>\n\u2013 553<\/font><\/span><\/p>\n<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<\/table><\/div>\n<p align=\"center\" style=\"line-height: 150%;margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0\">&nbsp;<\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Answer to a Criticism * &nbsp; Milford accepts the rule that two consonants after a short vowel make the short vowel long, even if they&#8230;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[32],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-1486","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-05-collected-poems-volume-05","wpcat-32-id"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/worksofthemotherandsriaurobindo.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1486","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/worksofthemotherandsriaurobindo.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/worksofthemotherandsriaurobindo.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/worksofthemotherandsriaurobindo.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/worksofthemotherandsriaurobindo.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=1486"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/worksofthemotherandsriaurobindo.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1486\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/worksofthemotherandsriaurobindo.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=1486"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/worksofthemotherandsriaurobindo.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=1486"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/worksofthemotherandsriaurobindo.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=1486"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}