{"id":1688,"date":"2013-07-13T01:36:33","date_gmt":"2013-07-13T08:36:33","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/localhost\/?p=1688"},"modified":"2013-11-28T15:18:37","modified_gmt":"2013-11-28T23:18:37","slug":"03-life-in-england-1879-1893-vol-35-letters-on-himself-and-the-ashram","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/worksofthemotherandsriaurobindo.org\/index.php\/01-works-of-sri-aurobindo\/03-cwsa\/35-letters-on-himself-and-the-ashram\/03-life-in-england-1879-1893-vol-35-letters-on-himself-and-the-ashram","title":{"rendered":"-03_Life in England, 1879 &#8211; 1893.htm"},"content":{"rendered":"<div align=\"center\">\n<table border=\"0\" cellpadding=\"0\" style=\"border-collapse: collapse\" width=\"100%\" id=\"table1\">\n<tr>\n<td>\n<p><b><font size=\"4\"> <\/p>\n<p align=\"center\" style=\"line-height: 150%;margin-top: 0;margin-bottom: 0\">\n<span lang=\"en-gb\">Life in England, 1879 <\/b>\u00ad<b> 1893<\/b><\/span><\/font><span lang=\"en-gb\"><br \/>\n<\/span> <\/p>\n<p align=\"justify\" style=\"line-height: 150%;margin-top: 0;margin-bottom: 0\">&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p align=\"center\" style=\"line-height: 150%;margin-top: 0;margin-bottom: 0\">\n<span lang=\"en-gb\"><b>An Early Memory<\/b><br \/>\n &nbsp;<br \/>\n<\/span> <\/p>\n<p align=\"center\" style=\"line-height: 150%;margin-top: 0;margin-bottom: 0\">&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p align=\"justify\" style=\"line-height: 150%;margin-top: 0;margin-bottom: 0\">\n<span lang=\"en-gb\">I am not at all concerned about Nicodemus and what seems<br \/>\n to me his stupid and ignorant question; he brings a fantastic<br \/>\n physical notion across Christ&#8217;s teaching and I am afraid I must<br \/>\n hold him partially responsible for Freud&#8217;s sexual meanderings<br \/>\n and his craze for going back into his mother&#8217;s womb. I don&#8217;t<br \/>\n myself remember any blissful sojourn in that locality in my case<br \/>\n and I don&#8217;t believe in it and I am quite sure I never felt any<br \/>\n passion for returning there. The great Sigismund must have had<br \/>\n it, I suppose, and remembered that blissful period and felt a<br \/>\n longing for beatific return and I suppose others must have had<br \/>\n it unless its acceptance is only a result of a general acceptance of<br \/>\n the papal infallibility of Sigismund in psychoanalytical matters,<br \/>\n about which few people have any direct reliable knowledge or<br \/>\n can form a truly independent conviction based on truly independent evidence. I believe the practical methods and evidence for<br \/>\n the success of psychoanalysis are made up mostly of suggestion<br \/>\n and autosuggestion; for suggestion and autosuggestion can do<br \/>\n almost anything and can make you believe in anything and everything. Many of these suggestions seem to me quite artificial<br \/>\n and their forced connection with sex to be quite groundless. For<br \/>\n instance, there is the suggestion of the dream of being stabbed<br \/>\n with a knife, which they say is a rendering by the subliminal of<br \/>\n an actual sex-probe, and of that you can obviously persuade a<br \/>\n patient who is under your influence. I myself had when a boy of<br \/>\n 8 or 9 a vivid dream which I never forgot of myself alone in my<br \/>\n bed  I used to be sent to bed much earlier than my brothers<br \/>\n  and lay there in a sort of constant terror of the darkness and<br \/>\n phantoms and burglars till my brothers came up [<i>incomplete<\/i>]<br \/>\n &nbsp;<br \/>\n<\/span><\/p>\n<p align=\"justify\" style=\"line-height: 150%;margin-top: 0;margin-bottom: 0\">\n&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p align=\"center\" style=\"line-height: 150%;margin-top: 0;margin-bottom: 0\">\n<span lang=\"en-gb\"><br \/>\n<font size=\"2\">Page <font face=\"Times New Roman\">\u2013 <\/font>9<\/font><br \/>\n<\/span> <\/p>\n<hr>\n<p><b> <\/p>\n<p align=\"center\" style=\"line-height: 150%;margin-top: 0;margin-bottom: 0\">\n<span lang=\"en-gb\">Exposure to Christianity<\/span><\/b><span lang=\"en-gb\"><br \/>\n &nbsp;<br \/>\n <\/span> <\/p>\n<p align=\"center\" style=\"line-height: 150%;margin-top: 0;margin-bottom: 0\">&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p align=\"justify\" style=\"line-height: 150%;margin-top: 0;margin-bottom: 0;margin-left:25pt\">\n<span lang=\"en-gb\">[<i>Lines from a poem submitted to Sri Aurobindo:<\/i>]<br \/>\n &nbsp; <\/p>\n<p><\/span> <\/p>\n<p align=\"justify\" style=\"line-height: 150%;margin-top: 0;margin-bottom: 0;margin-left:25pt\">&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p align=\"justify\" style=\"line-height: 150%;margin-top: 0;margin-bottom: 0;margin-left:50pt\">\n<span lang=\"en-gb\">Soul of poet, thine be quiet<br \/>\n<\/span><\/p>\n<p align=\"justify\" style=\"line-height: 150%;margin-top: 0;margin-bottom: 0;margin-left:50pt\">\n<span lang=\"en-gb\">Of the Virgin&#8217;s prayerful countenance . . .<br \/>\n &nbsp;<br \/>\n  \t\t\t<\/span> <\/p>\n<p align=\"justify\" style=\"line-height: 150%;margin-top: 0;margin-bottom: 0;margin-left:50pt\">&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p align=\"justify\" style=\"line-height: 150%;margin-top: 0;margin-bottom: 0\">\n<span lang=\"en-gb\">[<i>Underlining &#8220;prayerful countenance&#8221;:<\/i>] Lord God! you bring<br \/>\n me back to my childhood&#8217;s agonies in an English Nonconformist<br \/>\n chapel.<br \/>\n <\/span> <\/p>\n<p align=\"right\">\n\t<span lang=\"en-gb\"><br \/>\n\t<font size=\"2\">11 September 1933<br \/>\n <\/font><br \/>\n \t<\/span> <\/p>\n<p align=\"justify\" style=\"line-height: 150%;margin-top: 0;margin-bottom: 0\">&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p align=\"center\" style=\"line-height: 150%;margin-top: 0;margin-bottom: 0\">&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p align=\"center\" style=\"line-height: 150%;margin-top: 0;margin-bottom: 0\">\n\t\t\t<span lang=\"en-gb\"><br \/>\n\t\t\t<b>Education in England<\/b><br \/>\n &nbsp;<br \/>\n \t\t\t<\/span> <\/p>\n<p align=\"center\" style=\"line-height: 150%;margin-top: 0;margin-bottom: 0\">&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p align=\"justify\" style=\"line-height: 150%;margin-top: 0;margin-bottom: 0;margin-left:25pt\">\n<span lang=\"en-gb\">This afternoon I was doing japa as usual and dropped off to<br \/>\n sleep. Then I saw a curious dream. . . . I sang and the song was<br \/>\n on Shiva, and was so ecstatic that you got up and blessed me,<br \/>\n joining in the hymn. . . . Tell me, however, do you ever sing<br \/>\n I don&#8217;t mean music of the spheres but our mortal songs with<br \/>\n musical intervals as we understand, as for instance Mother<br \/>\n does?<br \/>\n <\/span> <\/p>\n<p align=\"justify\" style=\"line-height: 150%;margin-top: 0;margin-bottom: 0\">&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p align=\"justify\" style=\"line-height: 150%;margin-top: 0;margin-bottom: 0\">\n\t<span lang=\"en-gb\">No  I don&#8217;t sing on the physical plane. My education in Eng<br \/>\n land was badly neglected  though people say to the contrary.<br \/>\n I filled in most of the <i>lacunae <\/i>afterwards, but some remained<br \/>\n of which the musical gap is one. But that is no reason why I<br \/>\n should not sing on the supraphysical plane where you met me.<br \/>\n There is no exact correspondence between the formation here<br \/>\n and the formations there. On the contrary on these inner planes<br \/>\n the subliminal as they call it in Europe  that is to say, our inner<br \/>\n selves  is full of powers which have not emerged  yet at least<br \/>\n  in the physical consciousness. And especially as I was full of<br \/>\n Shiva in your experience there is no reason why I should not<br \/>\n have sung for I suppose Shiva sings as well as dances?<br \/>\n <\/span> <\/p>\n<p align=\"right\">\n\t<span lang=\"en-gb\"><br \/>\n\t<font size=\"2\">31 August 1933 <\/p>\n<p><\/font> <\/p>\n<p>\t<\/span> <\/p>\n<p><b> <\/p>\n<p align=\"justify\" style=\"line-height: 150%;margin-top: 0;margin-bottom: 0\">&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p align=\"center\" style=\"line-height: 150%;margin-top: 0;margin-bottom: 0\">\n<span lang=\"en-gb\">I.C.S. Examination<\/span><\/b><span lang=\"en-gb\"><br \/>\n &nbsp;<br \/>\n \t\t\t<\/span> <\/p>\n<p align=\"center\" style=\"line-height: 150%;margin-top: 0;margin-bottom: 0\">&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p align=\"justify\" style=\"line-height: 150%;margin-top: 0;margin-bottom: 0;margin-left:25pt\">\n<span lang=\"en-gb\">Do you think your I.C.S. examination answer papers of 1892<br \/>\n have been preserved by the authorities? I was thinking of<br \/>\n &nbsp;<br \/>\n<\/span> <\/p>\n<p align=\"center\" style=\"line-height: 150%;margin-top: 0;margin-bottom: 0\">\n&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p align=\"center\" style=\"line-height: 150%;margin-top: 0;margin-bottom: 0\">\n<span lang=\"en-gb\"><br \/>\n<font size=\"2\">Page <font face=\"Times New Roman\">\u2013 <\/font>10<\/font><br \/>\n<\/span> <\/p>\n<hr>\n<p align=\"justify\" style=\"line-height: 150%;margin-top: 0;margin-bottom: 0;margin-left:25pt\">\n\t<span lang=\"en-gb\">getting them if possible, in order to preserve them as a relic<br \/>\n with us. Perhaps they do not give them out or they might have<br \/>\n disposed of them.<br \/>\n <\/span> <\/p>\n<p align=\"justify\" style=\"line-height: 150%;margin-top: 0;margin-bottom: 0\">&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p align=\"justify\" style=\"line-height: 150%;margin-top: 0;margin-bottom: 0\">\n\t<span lang=\"en-gb\">Not likely that they keep such things.<br \/>\n <\/span> <\/p>\n<p align=\"right\">\n\t<span lang=\"en-gb\"><br \/>\n\t<font size=\"2\">1 May 1936<br \/>\n <\/font><br \/>\n \t<\/span> <\/p>\n<p align=\"justify\" style=\"line-height: 150%;margin-top: 0;margin-bottom: 0\">&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p align=\"center\" style=\"line-height: 150%;margin-top: 0;margin-bottom: 0\">\n<span lang=\"en-gb\"><b>A Cambridge Anecdote<\/b><br \/>\n &nbsp;<br \/>\n \t\t\t<\/span> <\/p>\n<p align=\"center\" style=\"line-height: 150%;margin-top: 0;margin-bottom: 0\">&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p align=\"justify\" style=\"line-height: 150%;margin-top: 0;margin-bottom: 0;margin-left:25pt\">\n<span lang=\"en-gb\">While we all agree that we all lie, <i>X <\/i>thinks she is incapable of<br \/>\n lying.<br \/>\n <\/span> <\/p>\n<p align=\"justify\" style=\"line-height: 150%;margin-top: 0;margin-bottom: 0\">&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p align=\"justify\" style=\"line-height: 150%;margin-top: 0;margin-bottom: 0\">\n\t<span lang=\"en-gb\">Lies? Well, a Punjabi student at Cambridge once took our breath<br \/>\n away by the frankness and comprehensive profundity of his<br \/>\n affirmation: &#8220;Liars! But we are all liars!&#8221; It appeared that he<br \/>\n had intended to say &#8220;lawyers&#8221;, but his pronunciation gave his<br \/>\n remark a deep force of philosophic observation and generalisation which he had not intended! But it seems to me the last word<br \/>\n on human nature. Only the lying is sometimes intentional, some<br \/>\n times vaguely half-intentional, sometimes quite unintentional,<br \/>\n momentary and unconscious. So there you are! <\/span> <\/p>\n<p align=\"justify\" style=\"line-height: 150%;margin-top: 0;margin-bottom: 0\">&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p align=\"center\" style=\"line-height: 150%;margin-top: 0;margin-bottom: 0\">\n<span lang=\"en-gb\"><b>Learning Languages<\/b><br \/>\n &nbsp;<br \/>\n \t\t\t<\/span> <\/p>\n<p align=\"center\" style=\"line-height: 150%;margin-top: 0;margin-bottom: 0\">&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p align=\"justify\" style=\"line-height: 150%;margin-top: 0;margin-bottom: 0;margin-left:25pt\">\n<span lang=\"en-gb\">It seems most people read more than they assimilate. They<br \/>\n read lots of French stories, novels and dramas very rapidly<br \/>\n and as a result they hardly assimilate the idioms, phrases,<br \/>\n grammatical peculiarities, etc. I find it surprising that<br \/>\n<i>X <\/i>and <i>Y<\/i><br \/>\n commit elementary errors when they speak. I think one ought<br \/>\n to read a book three to four times.<br \/>\n <\/span> <\/p>\n<p align=\"justify\" style=\"line-height: 150%;margin-top: 0;margin-bottom: 0\">&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p align=\"justify\" style=\"line-height: 150%;margin-top: 0;margin-bottom: 0\">\n\t<span lang=\"en-gb\">I suppose most learn only to be able to read French books, not<br \/>\n to know the language well.<br \/>\n<i>X <\/i>writes and reads fluently but he<br \/>\n does not know the grammar  he has only just begun to learn<br \/>\n it. <i>Y <\/i>does not know French so well  he has learned mostly by<br \/>\n typing a lot of things in French. It is not many who know French<br \/>\n accurately and idiomatically.<br \/>\n<i>Z <\/i>was the best in that respect. I<br \/>\n don&#8217;t think many people would consent to make a principle of<br \/>\n reading each book 3 or 4 times in the way you advocate, for very<br \/>\n few have the scholarly mind  but two or three books should<br \/>\n &nbsp;<br \/>\n\t\t\t<\/span> <\/p>\n<p align=\"justify\" style=\"line-height: 150%;margin-top: 0;margin-bottom: 0\">&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p align=\"center\" style=\"line-height: 150%;margin-top: 0;margin-bottom: 0\">\n<span lang=\"en-gb\"><br \/>\n<font size=\"2\">Page <font face=\"Times New Roman\">\u2013 <\/font>11<\/font><br \/>\n<\/span> <\/p>\n<hr>\n<p align=\"justify\" style=\"line-height: 150%;margin-top: 0;margin-bottom: 0\">\n\t<span lang=\"en-gb\">be so read  I learnt Sanskrit by reading the Naladamayanti<br \/>\n episode in the Mahabharat like that with minute care several<br \/>\n times.<br \/>\n <\/span> <\/p>\n<p align=\"right\">\n\t<span lang=\"en-gb\"><br \/>\n\t<font size=\"2\">25 March 1937<br \/>\n <\/font><br \/>\n \t<\/span> <\/p>\n<p align=\"justify\" style=\"line-height: 150%;margin-top: 0;margin-bottom: 0\">&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p align=\"center\" style=\"line-height: 150%;margin-top: 0;margin-bottom: 0\">\n<span lang=\"en-gb\"><b>First Reading of the Upanishads<\/b><br \/>\n &nbsp;<br \/>\n <\/span> <\/p>\n<p align=\"justify\" style=\"line-height: 150%;margin-top: 0;margin-bottom: 0;margin-left:25pt\">&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p align=\"justify\" style=\"line-height: 150%;margin-top: 0;margin-bottom: 0;margin-left:25pt\">\n<span lang=\"en-gb\">Is it true that the deep significance of mantras like &#8220;OM<br \/>\n Shanti Shanti Shanti&#8221; and of words like &#8220;<\/span><span lang=\"fr\">paix<\/span><span lang=\"en-gb\">&#8221; in the Mother&#8217;s<br \/>\n <i>Prayers <\/i>is lost because of too much familiarity?<br \/>\n <\/span> <\/p>\n<p align=\"justify\" style=\"line-height: 150%;margin-top: 0;margin-bottom: 0\">&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p align=\"justify\" style=\"line-height: 150%;margin-top: 0;margin-bottom: 0\">\n\t<span lang=\"en-gb\">Yes, it must be the familiarity  for I remember when I first<br \/>\n read the OM Shanti Shanti Shanti of the Upanishads it had a<br \/>\n powerful effect on me. In French it depends on the form or the<br \/>\n way in which it is put.<br \/>\n <\/span> <\/p>\n<p align=\"right\">\n\t<span lang=\"en-gb\"><br \/>\n\t<font size=\"2\">14 February 1936<br \/>\n <\/font><br \/>\n \t<\/span> <\/p>\n<p align=\"justify\" style=\"line-height: 150%;margin-top: 0;margin-bottom: 0\">&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p align=\"center\" style=\"line-height: 150%;margin-top: 0;margin-bottom: 0\">\n<span lang=\"en-gb\"><b>The European Temperament<\/b><br \/>\n &nbsp;<br \/>\n <\/span> <\/p>\n<p align=\"justify\" style=\"line-height: 150%;margin-top: 0;margin-bottom: 0;margin-left:25pt\">&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p align=\"justify\" style=\"line-height: 150%;margin-top: 0;margin-bottom: 0;margin-left:25pt\">\n<span lang=\"en-gb\">How is it that most Europeans manage to remain cheerful,<br \/>\n while in India there is so much gloom and moroseness in<br \/>\n family life, and cunning, strategy and selfishness in social life?<br \/>\n Half of the cheerfulness in Europeans, I suspect, comes not so<br \/>\n much from intrinsic joy or humour as from the discipline of<br \/>\n having good manners.<br \/>\n <\/span> <\/p>\n<p align=\"justify\" style=\"line-height: 150%;margin-top: 0;margin-bottom: 0\">&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p align=\"justify\" style=\"line-height: 150%;margin-top: 0;margin-bottom: 0\">\n\t<span lang=\"en-gb\">It is largely the latter  to show one&#8217;s bad moods in society<br \/>\n is considered bad form and indicating want of self-control; so<br \/>\n people in Europe usually keep their worse side for their own<br \/>\n house and family and don&#8217;t show it outside. Some do but are<br \/>\n considered as either neurasthenic or as having a <\/span><span lang=\"fr\">&#8220;sale caract<font face=\"Times New Roman\">\u00e8<\/font>re&#8221;<\/span><span lang=\"en-gb\">.<br \/>\n But apart from that Europeans have, I think, more vitality than<br \/>\n Indians and are more elastic and resilient and less nervously<br \/>\n sensitive. There are plenty of exceptions, of course, but generally, I think, that is true. In family life it is more of the rajasic<br \/>\n ego than gloom and moroseness that creates trouble. Gloom and<br \/>\n moroseness generally meet with ridicule as a &#8220;Byronic&#8221; or tragic<br \/>\n affectation, so it is very soon discouraged. Cunning, strategy<br \/>\n and selfishness in social life is considered in France at least to be<br \/>\n more a characteristic of peasant life  in the middle class it is<br \/>\n supposed to be the sign of the &#8220;arriviste&#8221;. <\/span> <\/p>\n<p align=\"right\">\n\t<span lang=\"en-gb\"><br \/>\n\t<font size=\"2\">6 January 1937<br \/>\n &nbsp;<br \/>\n<\/font><br \/>\n\t<\/span> <\/p>\n<p align=\"center\" style=\"line-height: 150%;margin-top: 0;margin-bottom: 0\">\n<span lang=\"en-gb\"><br \/>\n<font size=\"2\">Page <font face=\"Times New Roman\">\u2013 <\/font>12<\/font><\/span><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<\/table>\n<\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Life in England, 1879 \u00ad 1893 &nbsp; An Early Memory &nbsp; &nbsp; I am not at all concerned about Nicodemus and what seems to me&#8230;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[37],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-1688","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-35-letters-on-himself-and-the-ashram","wpcat-37-id"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/worksofthemotherandsriaurobindo.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1688","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/worksofthemotherandsriaurobindo.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/worksofthemotherandsriaurobindo.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/worksofthemotherandsriaurobindo.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/worksofthemotherandsriaurobindo.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=1688"}],"version-history":[{"count":2,"href":"https:\/\/worksofthemotherandsriaurobindo.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1688\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":9614,"href":"https:\/\/worksofthemotherandsriaurobindo.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1688\/revisions\/9614"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/worksofthemotherandsriaurobindo.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=1688"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/worksofthemotherandsriaurobindo.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=1688"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/worksofthemotherandsriaurobindo.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=1688"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}