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\n\t\t\tThe Mother and Sri Aurobindo
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\nin Dreams, Visions and Experiences<\/font><\/b><\/p>\n

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\n\t\t\tVisions, Dreams and Experiences of Their Unity
\n\t\t\t<\/a>
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From the intimations frequently received from the play of lights seen in visions, I am having a deep feeling that Sri
\nAurobindo and the Mother are the same though we see them in different bodies. Is my feeling right? <\/p>\n

Yes.<\/p>\n

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25 April 1933 <\/p>\n

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*<\/p>\n

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In the centre of the flower “The Supramental manifestation
\nupon earth”, I saw both the Mother and Sri Aurobindo. I saw only their faces and they were in the same figure and at the
\nsame time. What does this signify? <\/p>\n

It is our joint or united presence in the manifestation. <\/p>\n

10 November 1933 <\/p>\n

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*<\/p>\n

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Today while the Mother was blessing me, I felt Sri Aurobindo’s hand beside the Mother’s hand. But when I opened my eyes, I
\nsaw only the Mother sitting there. Why did I experience this? Did Sri Aurobindo come at this time? <\/p>\n

I am always with the Mother 
\n\u2014it was therefore quite natural that you should feel the double blessing. <\/p>\n

17 November 1933 <\/p>\n

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*<\/p>\n

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The Mother and myself stand for the same Power in two forms 
\n\u2014so the perception in the dream was perfectly logical. IshwaraShakti, Purusha \u2014Prakriti are only the two sides of the one Divine (Brahman). <\/p>\n

1933 <\/p>\n

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*<\/p>\n

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It is a very common experience 
\n\u2014that of the identity between myself and the Mother (the perception that we are one) expressed in the fusing of the two images.<\/p>\n

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4 November 1935 <\/p>\n


\nOther Dreams and Experiences
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Is there any significance in Mother’s standing on the right side
\nand your standing on the left in my experience? <\/p>\n

Yes, she is the executive power and must have the right arm
\nfree for action. The symbolism which puts her on the left side belongs to the Ignorance. In the Ignorance she is on the left side,
\nnot free in her action, all is a wrong action or half result. For the supramental work the true symbol is the Mother on the right
\nside.<\/p>\n

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20 February 1932 <\/p>\n

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*<\/p>\n

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While meditating today I received the Mother’s peace and light
\nand joy. Then for a short time I went deep inside and suddenly saw a tiger standing in front of me. Seeing the tiger, I kept
\ncalling the Mother and went near it. Then the tiger vanished and in its place stood a very beautiful boy and girl. A blue
\nlight came out from the boy’s body and a white light from the girl’s. They told me, “Let us go to the infinite God.” I was
\nwalking with them and then I woke up. Who was the tiger and the boy and girl? Why did they tell me that? <\/p>\n

The tiger is some force that appears hostile. If you face it with the Mother’s name, the hostile force disappears and in its place
\ncome two Powers (the children) from myself (the blue light) and the Mother (the white light). It is probably an image of the vital
\nunder the influence of the psychic. At first it is inhabited by the tiger (anger, passion, desire etc.) 
\n\u2014but as soon as the psychic
\ninfluence masters it, that disappears and it is replaced by the Divine Children calling you to the Divine. <\/p>\n

3 April 1933 <\/p>\n

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*<\/p>\n

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\nWhen I look into the tuberose flowers which are growing<\/p>\n

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on our terrace, I sometimes see Sri Aurobindo’s figure and sometimes the Mother’s and sometimes both together. <\/p>\n

It is the flower of the new creation, so it is natural that you see us there. <\/p>\n

6 November 1933 <\/p>\n

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*<\/p>\n

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The dream was an indication of what the Mother and myself are and represent 
\n\u2014I do not think that it is necessary to say more
\nthan that. It indicates that the fulfilment of what we stand for is the Divine Love and Ananda. <\/p>\n

1933 <\/p>\n

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*<\/p>\n

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On Darshan Day and the day before it I felt an intense love for you and for the Mother. It possessed my whole being for some
\ntime. There was a high and profound reverence for both of you and “a happiness that no worldly pleasure can give us”. <\/p>\n

That is obviously psychic.<\/p>\n

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25 August 1934 <\/p>\n

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*<\/p>\n

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In my dream two nights ago, I bowed down to a darkcomplexioned gentleman who was the devil, and devotionally too! How to discriminate before such a thing is done? Powers
\ncome to allure one and it is harmful to accept them, but how to recognise them? And in this case I recognised that this devil
\ndid not resemble you, but still I bowed. Sometimes in dream we have met the Mother in quite a different appearance, and
\nstill you said it was the Mother who came to us. Then? <\/p>\n

Necessarily, Mother can manifest in many other forms besides
\nher physical one, and though I am rather less multitudinous, I can also. But that does not mean that you can take any gentleman for me or any she for her. Your dream
\n\t\u2014self has to develop a certain discrimination. That discrimination cannot go by signs
\nand forms, for the vital beggars can imitate almost anything, it must be intuitive. <\/p>\n

23 May 1935 <\/p>\n

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*<\/p>\n

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Well, it is quite natural that I should like to write rather about the Mother than about myself. But I suppose you refer to the
\nexperience with the photograph  \u2014it can be had of course with mine also, but it comes more easily with the Mother’s because
\nher physical contact with the sadhaks is closer than mine. <\/p>\n

The feeling of being a child comes often when there is the
\npsychic influence behind.<\/p>\n

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4 May 1936 <\/p>\n

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*<\/p>\n

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My being meets you or the Mother in dreams and receives
\nyour blessings. Has it any concrete value  \u2014as concrete as the Pranam touch? <\/p>\n

What do you mean by concrete? It is concrete there just as the Abyssinian or Spanish wars are concrete here. <\/p>\n

26 August 1936 <\/p>\n

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*<\/p>\n

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X <\/i>wishes to know what you and the Mother decide in reply to her last letter. She asked me to write to her. Shall I ask
\nMother tomorrow or would you prefer to write what I am to communicate to her? <\/p>\n

I think I had better write it and you can communicate to her. It was an experience in a conscious dream in which she was
\nbecoming as if unconscious and her body was benumbed and then felt my hand on her forehead, the weight felt not only there
\nbut as if something was crushing her whole body, particularly a distinct pressure on the 3rd or 4th rib on the right side. The
\nnumbness was still there when she opened her eyes. She thinks it was my hand because of the weight, the strength of it. She wants
\nto know also about our presence, how it comes, whether we are conscious of the call or it is only our Force that is working which
\nis everywhere without the necessity of our personal knowledge. This is the answer. <\/p>\n

“As to the dream, it was not a dream but an experience  <\/i>
\nof the inner being in a conscious dream state, svapna \u2014sam<\/i>ā<\/font>dhi<\/i>. The numbness and the feeling of being about to lose consciousness are always due to the pressure or descent of a Force to<\/p>\n

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which the body is not accustomed, but feels strongly. Here it was not the physical body that was being directly pressed, but
\n  .<\/i> \u00b4  <\/i>
\n the subtle body, the sukṣ<\/font>ma śatīre <\/i>in which the inner being more intimately dwells and in which it goes out in sleep or
\ntrance or in the moment of death. But the physical body in these vivid experiences feels as if it were itself that was having the
\nexperience; the numbness was the effect on it of the pressure. The pressure on the whole body would mean a pressure on
\nthe whole inner consciousness, perhaps for some modification or change which would make it more ready for knowledge or
\nexperience; the 3rd or 4th rib would indicate a region which belongs to the vital nature, the domain of the life
\n\u2014force, some
\npressure for a change there. <\/p>\n

The strength of the hand, the weight would not necessarily
\nindicate that it was mine  \u2014for it was an experience not of the physical hand or in the physical body, but in the subtle realms
\nof the being and there the Mother’s touch and pressure might well be stronger and heavier than mine. The Mother does not
\nremember the date, but one night about that period she was thinking strongly about her and putting a pressure for the removal of some obstacle to a spiritual opening. It is possible that this was what produced the experience. If it was myself, it
\nmust have been at a time when I was concentrating and sending the force to different people, but I remember nothing precise.
\nI have often thought of her of course and sent a Force to help her. <\/p>\n

It is not necessary for us always to be physically conscious of the action, for it is often carried out when the mind is occupied with outward things or when we sleep. The Mother’s sleep is not sleep but an inner consciousness, in which she is
\nin communication with people or working everywhere. At the time she is aware, but she does not carry all that always into her
\nwaking consciousness or in her memory. A call would come in the occupied waking mind as the thought of the person coming 
\n\u2014in a more free or in a concentrated state as a communication from the person in question; in concentration or in sleep or
\ntrance she would see the person coming and speaking to her or
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herself going there. Besides that wherever the Force is working,
\nthe Presence is there.”<\/p>\n

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27 September 1936 <\/p>\n

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It is quite normal in dream to see the Mother or myself with
\nanother appearance than the present. These dreams are experiences on the vital plane where forms are not so rigid as in the
\nphysical world.<\/p>\n

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\n\t\t\t1 June 1937  <\/p>\n

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