{"id":2958,"date":"2013-07-13T01:44:53","date_gmt":"2013-07-13T01:44:53","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/localhost\/?p=2958"},"modified":"2013-07-13T01:44:53","modified_gmt":"2013-07-13T01:44:53","slug":"09-incarnation-and-evolution-vol-32-the-mother-with-letters-on-the-mother","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/worksofthemotherandsriaurobindo.org\/index.php\/01-works-of-sri-aurobindo\/03-cwsa\/32-the-mother-with-letters-on-the-mother\/09-incarnation-and-evolution-vol-32-the-mother-with-letters-on-the-mother","title":{"rendered":"-09_Incarnation and Evolution.htm"},"content":{"rendered":"<div align=\"center\">\n<table border=\"0\" cellpadding=\"6\" style=\"border-collapse: collapse\" width=\"100%\">\n<tr>\n<td>\n<p align=\"center\" style=\"line-height: 150%;margin-top: 0;margin-bottom: 0\">\n\t\t\t<b><font size=\"4\">Incarnation and Evolution<br \/>\n\t\t\t<\/font><\/b> <\/p>\n<p align=\"center\" style=\"line-height: 150%;margin-top: 0;margin-bottom: 0\">&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p align=\"center\" style=\"line-height: 150%;margin-top: 0;margin-bottom: 0\">\n\t\t\t<b><a name=\"The_Mystery_of_Incarnation__\">The Mystery of Incarnation<br \/>\n\t\t\t<\/a><\/b> <\/p>\n<p align=\"center\" style=\"line-height: 150%;margin-top: 0;margin-bottom: 0\">&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p align=\"justify\" style=\"line-height: 150%;margin-top: 0;margin-bottom: 0;margin-left:25pt\">Many years ago, the Mother wrote regarding life in the Asram:<br \/>\n&#8220;In our daily practices we are endeavouring to express the great mystery of the Divine Incarnation.&#8221;<sup>1<\/sup> I pray that this<br \/>\nmessage may be explained to me&nbsp; \u2014and that I be enabled to understand its meaning fully and clearly. <\/p>\n<p align=\"justify\" style=\"line-height: 150%;margin-top: 0;margin-bottom: 0\">It means that we act as we do because we take it as a fact that the Divine can manifest and is manifested in a human body. <\/p>\n<p align=\"justify\" style=\"line-height: 150%;margin-top: 0;margin-bottom: 0;margin-left:25pt\">Is this a message which can be circulated to all the members of the Asram? <\/p>\n<p align=\"justify\" style=\"line-height: 150%;margin-top: 0;margin-bottom: 0\">Yes, they ought to know it. <\/p>\n<p align=\"justify\" style=\"text-indent: 25pt;line-height: 150%;margin-top: 0;margin-bottom: 0\">To outsiders? <\/p>\n<p align=\"justify\" style=\"line-height: 150%;margin-top: 0;margin-bottom: 0\">Not unless they are interested and seek the meaning of what we do. <\/p>\n<p align=\"justify\" style=\"line-height: 150%;margin-top: 0;margin-bottom: 0;margin-left:25pt\">I am also eager to know whether in my occupations at Madras, professionally and otherwise, I can pursue the life outlined in<br \/>\nthe message? Whether this message has any relation to such a life as mine? <\/p>\n<p align=\"justify\" style=\"line-height: 150%;margin-top: 0;margin-bottom: 0\">Yes, of course, it applies to everybody who accepts the fundamental truth on which Mother based what she wrote. <\/p>\n<p align=\"right\" style=\"line-height: 150%;margin-top: 0;margin-bottom: 0\">29 December 1933 <\/p>\n<p align=\"center\" style=\"line-height: 150%;margin-top: 0;margin-bottom: 0\">\n<p align=\"center\" style=\"line-height: 150%;margin-top: 0;margin-bottom: 0\">&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p align=\"center\" style=\"line-height: 150%;margin-top: 0;margin-bottom: 0\">*<\/p>\n<p align=\"center\" style=\"line-height: 150%;margin-top: 0;margin-bottom: 0\">&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p align=\"center\" style=\"line-height: 150%;margin-top: 0;margin-bottom: 0;text-indent:25px\">&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p align=\"justify\" style=\"line-height: 150%;margin-top: 0;margin-bottom: 0;text-indent:25px\">\n<sup>1<\/sup> <i>The Mother, <\/i>Words of the Mother \u00ad III <i>(Pondicherry: Sri Aurobindo Ashram, 2004),<\/i><br \/>\n<i>Collected Works of the Mother (second edition), vol. 15, p. 32.<\/i><\/p>\n<p align=\"justify\" style=\"text-indent: 25pt;line-height: 150%;margin-top: 0;margin-bottom: 0\">&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p align=\"center\" style=\"line-height: 150%;margin-top: 0;margin-bottom: 0\">\n<font size=\"2\">Page <\/font><font size=\"2\" face=\"Times New Roman\">\u2013 85<\/font><\/p>\n<hr>\n<p align=\"justify\" style=\"text-indent: 0pt;line-height: 150%;margin-top: 0;margin-bottom: 0\">\n<p align=\"justify\" style=\"line-height: 150%;margin-top: 0;margin-bottom: 0;margin-left:25pt\">What is the utility of making an effort for other realisations <i>&amp;<\/i><br \/>\nonce we have known the supreme secret (<i>uttamam rahasyam<\/i>) that you are the Divine Incarnate and the Mother is the ParaShakti? That is the highest realisation, I think, and all others&nbsp;<br \/>\n\t\u2014the realisation of the cosmic consciousness, of the presence<br \/>\nof the immanent Divine, even of the silent immutable Brahman&nbsp; \u2014are secondary in comparison with it. Whatever is to be done<br \/>\nin the world will be done by you and the Mother. <\/p>\n<p align=\"justify\" style=\"line-height: 150%;margin-top: 0;margin-bottom: 0\">Yes, but for that to be a constant realisation in its fullness the<br \/>\nsame effort has to be made and if made will bring the other realisations with it as parts of the main realisation. <\/p>\n<p align=\"right\" style=\"line-height: 150%;margin-top: 0;margin-bottom: 0\">30 October 1936 <\/p>\n<p align=\"center\" style=\"line-height: 150%;margin-top: 0;margin-bottom: 0\">\n\t\t\t<b><a name=\"The_Reason_for_Their_Embodiment__\">The Reason for Their Embodiment<br \/>\n\t\t\t<\/a><br \/>\n<\/b><\/p>\n<p align=\"center\" style=\"line-height: 150%;margin-top: 0;margin-bottom: 0\">&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p align=\"justify\" style=\"line-height: 150%;margin-top: 0;margin-bottom: 0\">The supramental creation, since it is to be a creation upon earth, must be not only an inner change but a physical and external<br \/>\nmanifestation also. And it is precisely for this part of the work, the most difficult of all, that surrender is most needful; for this<br \/>\nreason, that it is the actual descent of the supramental Divine into Matter and the working of the Divine Presence and Power<br \/>\nthere that can alone make the physical and external change possible. Even the most powerful self<br \/>\n\u2014assertion of human will and<br \/>\nendeavour is impotent to bring it about; as for egoistic insistence and vital revolt, they are, so long as they last, insuperable obstacles to the descent. Only a calm, pure and surrendered physical consciousness, full of the psychic aspiration, can be its field; this<br \/>\nalone can make an effective opening of the material being to the Light and Power and the supramental change a thing actual and<br \/>\npracticable. It is for this that we are here in the body, and it is for this that you and other sadhaks are in the Asram near us. But<br \/>\nit is not by insistence on petty demands and satisfactions in the external field or on an outer nearness pleasing to the vital nature<br \/>\nand its pride or desire that you can get the true relation with the Divine in this province. If you want the realisation there, it is the<br \/>\ntrue nearness that you must seek, the descent and presence of the Mother in your physical consciousness, her constant inner touch<br \/>\n &nbsp; <\/p>\n<p align=\"justify\" style=\"text-indent: 25pt;line-height: 150%;margin-top: 0;margin-bottom: 0\">&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p align=\"center\" style=\"line-height: 150%;margin-top: 0;margin-bottom: 0\">\n<font size=\"2\">Page <\/font><font size=\"2\" face=\"Times New Roman\">\u2013 86<\/font><\/p>\n<hr>\n<p align=\"justify\" style=\"line-height: 150%;margin-top: 0;margin-bottom: 0\">in the physical being and its activities, her will and knowledge behind all its work and thought and movement and the ever<br \/>\npresent Ananda of that presence expelling all vital and physical separateness, craving and desire. If you have that, then you have<br \/>\nall the nearness you can ask for and the rest you will gladly leave to the Mother&#8217;s knowledge and will to decide. For with<br \/>\nthis in you there can be no feeling of being kept away, no sense of &#8220;gulf&#8221; and &#8220;distance&#8221;, no complaint of a unity that is lacking<br \/>\nor an empty dryness and denial of nearness.<\/p>\n<p align=\"justify\" style=\"line-height: 150%;margin-top: 0;margin-bottom: 0\">\n<p align=\"right\" style=\"line-height: 150%;margin-top: 0;margin-bottom: 0\">6 December 1930 <\/p>\n<p align=\"center\" style=\"line-height: 150%;margin-top: 0;margin-bottom: 0\">\n<p align=\"center\" style=\"line-height: 150%;margin-top: 0;margin-bottom: 0\">&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p align=\"center\" style=\"line-height: 150%;margin-top: 0;margin-bottom: 0\">*<\/p>\n<p align=\"center\" style=\"line-height: 150%;margin-top: 0;margin-bottom: 0\">&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p align=\"center\" style=\"line-height: 150%;margin-top: 0;margin-bottom: 0\">&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p align=\"justify\" style=\"line-height: 150%;margin-top: 0;margin-bottom: 0;margin-left:25pt\">You have written in a letter, &#8220;A surrender by any means is<br \/>\ngood, but obviously the Impersonal is not enough, for surrender to that may be limited in result to the inner experience<br \/>\nwithout any transformation of the outer being.&#8221;2 I do not understand. <\/p>\n<p align=\"justify\" style=\"line-height: 150%;margin-top: 0;margin-bottom: 0\">It is rather surprising that you should be unable to understand such a simple and familiar statement; for that has been always<br \/>\nthe whole reason of this Yoga that to follow after the Impersonal only brings inner experience or at the most mukti. Without the<br \/>\naction of the integral Divine there is no change of the whole nature. If it were not so the Mother would not be here and<br \/>\nI would not be here&nbsp; \u2014if a realisation of the Impersonal were sufficient. <\/p>\n<p align=\"right\" style=\"line-height: 150%;margin-top: 0;margin-bottom: 0\">15 September 1936 <\/p>\n<p align=\"center\" style=\"line-height: 150%;margin-top: 0;margin-bottom: 0\">\n\t\t\t<b><a name=\"Connections_in_Past_Lives__\">Connections in Past Lives<br \/>\n\t\t\t<\/a><br \/>\n<\/b><\/p>\n<p align=\"center\" style=\"line-height: 150%;margin-top: 0;margin-bottom: 0\">&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p align=\"justify\" style=\"line-height: 150%;margin-top: 0;margin-bottom: 0;margin-left:25pt\">By what <i><br \/>\n\t\t\tpu<\/i><font face=\"Times New Roman\">ny<\/font><i>a <\/i>of ours has the Grace granted to us, mere <i>.<\/i><br \/>\nhumans, this rare privilege of coming here at the Divine&#8217;s Feet? <\/p>\n<p align=\"justify\" style=\"line-height: 150%;margin-top: 0;margin-bottom: 0\">It is the call of your soul that brought you here and also some<br \/>\naspiration or connection with the Mother and myself in past lives. <\/p>\n<p align=\"right\" style=\"line-height: 150%;margin-top: 0;margin-bottom: 0\">6 May 1933 <\/p>\n<p align=\"center\" style=\"line-height: 150%;margin-top: 0;margin-bottom: 0\">\n<p align=\"center\" style=\"line-height: 150%;margin-top: 0;margin-bottom: 0\">&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p align=\"center\" style=\"line-height: 150%;margin-top: 0;margin-bottom: 0\">*<\/p>\n<p align=\"center\" style=\"line-height: 150%;margin-top: 0;margin-bottom: 0\">&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p align=\"center\" style=\"line-height: 150%;margin-top: 0;margin-bottom: 0\">&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p align=\"justify\" style=\"line-height: 150%;margin-top: 0;margin-bottom: 0;text-indent:25px\">\n<font size=\"2\">2 <i>Sri Aurobindo, <\/i>Letters on Yoga <i>(Pondicherry: Sri Aurobindo Ashram Trust, 1970),<\/i><br \/>\n<\/font><br \/>\n<i><font size=\"2\">Sri Aurobindo Birth Centenary Library, vol. 23, p. 613.<\/font><\/i><\/p>\n<p align=\"justify\" style=\"text-indent: 25pt;line-height: 150%;margin-top: 0;margin-bottom: 0\">&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p align=\"center\" style=\"line-height: 150%;margin-top: 0;margin-bottom: 0\">\n<font size=\"2\">Page <\/font><font size=\"2\" face=\"Times New Roman\">\u2013 87<\/font><\/p>\n<hr>\n<p align=\"justify\" style=\"text-indent: 0pt;line-height: 150%;margin-top: 0;margin-bottom: 0\">\n<p align=\"justify\" style=\"line-height: 150%;margin-top: 0;margin-bottom: 0;margin-left:25pt\">What sort of <i>bhakti <\/i>in my past lives has brought me to the Mother&#8217;s feet? <\/p>\n<p align=\"justify\" style=\"line-height: 150%;margin-top: 0;margin-bottom: 0\">The aspiration for union with the Divine and perhaps also for the descent of the Divine on the earth. <\/p>\n<p align=\"right\" style=\"line-height: 150%;margin-top: 0;margin-bottom: 0\">8 May 1933 <\/p>\n<p align=\"center\" style=\"line-height: 150%;margin-top: 0;margin-bottom: 0\">\n<p align=\"center\" style=\"line-height: 150%;margin-top: 0;margin-bottom: 0\">&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p align=\"center\" style=\"line-height: 150%;margin-top: 0;margin-bottom: 0\">*<\/p>\n<p align=\"center\" style=\"line-height: 150%;margin-top: 0;margin-bottom: 0\">&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p align=\"center\" style=\"line-height: 150%;margin-top: 0;margin-bottom: 0\">&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p align=\"justify\" style=\"line-height: 150%;margin-top: 0;margin-bottom: 0;margin-left:25pt\">People make all sorts of effort to have God&#8217;s darshan; some even weep and weep, yet they fail to obtain it. We in the Asram<br \/>\ndon&#8217;t seem to have done very much, and yet we are here with you. What has brought this about? <\/p>\n<p align=\"justify\" style=\"line-height: 150%;margin-top: 0;margin-bottom: 0\">There are many things that have brought it about&nbsp;<br \/>\n\u2014a connection in past lives with the Mother and myself, the development<br \/>\nof your nature in former births which made it possible for you to seek the Divine, bhakti in those lives bearing its fruit now&nbsp;<br \/>\n\u2014finally, the Divine Grace.<\/p>\n<p align=\"justify\" style=\"line-height: 150%;margin-top: 0;margin-bottom: 0\">\n<p align=\"right\" style=\"line-height: 150%;margin-top: 0;margin-bottom: 0\">October 1935 <\/p>\n<p align=\"center\" style=\"line-height: 150%;margin-top: 0;margin-bottom: 0\"><b><br \/>\n<a name=\"Carrying_on_the_Evolution_\">Carrying on the Evolution<\/a><\/b><\/p>\n<p align=\"center\" style=\"line-height: 150%;margin-top: 0;margin-bottom: 0\">&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p align=\"justify\" style=\"line-height: 150%;margin-top: 0;margin-bottom: 0;margin-left:25pt\">It is said that you and the Mother have been on the earth<br \/>\nsince its creation. But what have you been doing for so many millions of years in disguise? I say &#8220;disguise&#8221; because it is only<br \/>\nnow that you are showing yourselves to the world in your real nature. <\/p>\n<p align=\"justify\" style=\"line-height: 150%;margin-top: 0;margin-bottom: 0\">Carrying on the evolution.<\/p>\n<p align=\"justify\" style=\"line-height: 150%;margin-top: 0;margin-bottom: 0\">\n<p align=\"right\" style=\"line-height: 150%;margin-top: 0;margin-bottom: 0\">25 September 1935 <\/p>\n<p align=\"center\" style=\"line-height: 150%;margin-top: 0;margin-bottom: 0\">\n<p align=\"center\" style=\"line-height: 150%;margin-top: 0;margin-bottom: 0\">&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p align=\"center\" style=\"line-height: 150%;margin-top: 0;margin-bottom: 0\">*<\/p>\n<p align=\"center\" style=\"line-height: 150%;margin-top: 0;margin-bottom: 0\">&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p align=\"center\" style=\"line-height: 150%;margin-top: 0;margin-bottom: 0\">&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p align=\"justify\" style=\"line-height: 150%;margin-top: 0;margin-bottom: 0;margin-left:25pt\">I fail to understand what you mean by &#8220;Carrying on the<br \/>\nevolution.&#8221; Could you explain this more fully? <\/p>\n<p align=\"justify\" style=\"line-height: 150%;margin-top: 0;margin-bottom: 0\">That would mean writing the whole of human history. I can only<br \/>\nsay that as there are special descents to carry on the evolution to a farther stage, so also something of the Divine is always there<br \/>\nto help through each stage itself in one direction or another.<\/p>\n<p align=\"justify\" style=\"line-height: 150%;margin-top: 0;margin-bottom: 0\">\n<p align=\"right\" style=\"line-height: 150%;margin-top: 0;margin-bottom: 0\">26 September 1935 <\/p>\n<p align=\"center\" style=\"line-height: 150%;margin-top: 0;margin-bottom: 0\">\n<p align=\"center\" style=\"line-height: 150%;margin-top: 0;margin-bottom: 0\">&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p align=\"center\" style=\"line-height: 150%;margin-top: 0;margin-bottom: 0\">*<\/p>\n<p align=\"center\" style=\"line-height: 150%;margin-top: 0;margin-bottom: 0\">&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p align=\"justify\" style=\"text-indent: 25pt;line-height: 150%;margin-top: 0;margin-bottom: 0\">&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p align=\"center\" style=\"line-height: 150%;margin-top: 0;margin-bottom: 0\">\n<font size=\"2\">Page <\/font><font size=\"2\" face=\"Times New Roman\">\u2013 88<\/font><\/p>\n<hr>\n<p align=\"justify\" style=\"line-height: 150%;margin-top: 0;margin-bottom: 0;margin-left:25pt\">I can understand how ordinary people in the past may not have recognised your presence, especially when you lived outwardly<br \/>\nlike human beings. But how is it that even Sri Krishna, Buddha or Christ could not recognise your presence in this world? <\/p>\n<p align=\"justify\" style=\"line-height: 150%;margin-top: 0;margin-bottom: 0\">Presence where and in whom? If they did not meet, they would not recognise, and even if they met there is no reason why the<br \/>\nMother and I should cast off the veil which hung over these personalities and reveal the Divine behind them. Those lives<br \/>\nwere not meant for any such purpose.<\/p>\n<p align=\"justify\" style=\"line-height: 150%;margin-top: 0;margin-bottom: 0\">\n<p align=\"right\" style=\"line-height: 150%;margin-top: 0;margin-bottom: 0\">27 September 1935 <\/p>\n<p align=\"center\" style=\"line-height: 150%;margin-top: 0;margin-bottom: 0\">\n<p align=\"center\" style=\"line-height: 150%;margin-top: 0;margin-bottom: 0\">&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p align=\"center\" style=\"line-height: 150%;margin-top: 0;margin-bottom: 0\">*<\/p>\n<p align=\"center\" style=\"line-height: 150%;margin-top: 0;margin-bottom: 0\">&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p align=\"center\" style=\"line-height: 150%;margin-top: 0;margin-bottom: 0\">&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p align=\"justify\" style=\"line-height: 150%;margin-top: 0;margin-bottom: 0;margin-left:25pt\">If you and the Mother were on earth all the time, it would<br \/>\nmean that you were here when those great beings descended. Then whatever your external cloak, how could you hide your<br \/>\ninner self&nbsp; \u2014the true divinity&nbsp; \u2014from them? <\/p>\n<p align=\"justify\" style=\"line-height: 150%;margin-top: 0;margin-bottom: 0\">But why cannot the inner self be hidden from all in such lives?<br \/>\nYour reasoning would only have some force if the presence on earth then were as the Avatar, but not if it was only as a Vibhuti. <\/p>\n<p align=\"justify\" style=\"line-height: 150%;margin-top: 0;margin-bottom: 0;margin-left:25pt\">So, in answer to the question, &#8220;Presence where and in whom?&#8221; I would say, &#8220;Presence in this world and in Thyself and the<br \/>\nMother.&#8221; <\/p>\n<p align=\"justify\" style=\"line-height: 150%;margin-top: 0;margin-bottom: 0\">&#8220;Presence in Thyself&#8221; means nothing. It is &#8220;presence&#8221; in or<br \/>\nbehind some body and behind some outer personality. Also &#8220;presence&#8221; in what part of the world? If Mother were in Rome<br \/>\nat the time of Buddha, how could Buddha know as he did not even know the existence of Rome? <\/p>\n<p align=\"justify\" style=\"line-height: 150%;margin-top: 0;margin-bottom: 0;margin-left:25pt\">I did not mean that you or the Mother needed to cast off your veil. It is those great men who should have recognised you in<br \/>\nspite of the veil. <\/p>\n<p align=\"justify\" style=\"line-height: 150%;margin-top: 0;margin-bottom: 0\">One can be a great man without knowing such things as that.<br \/>\nGreat men or even great Vibhutis need not be omniscient or know things which it was not useful for them to know. <\/p>\n<p align=\"right\" style=\"line-height: 150%;margin-top: 0;margin-bottom: 0\">27 September 1935 <\/p>\n<p align=\"center\" style=\"line-height: 150%;margin-top: 0;margin-bottom: 0\">\n<p align=\"center\" style=\"line-height: 150%;margin-top: 0;margin-bottom: 0\">&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p align=\"center\" style=\"line-height: 150%;margin-top: 0;margin-bottom: 0\">*<\/p>\n<p align=\"center\" style=\"line-height: 150%;margin-top: 0;margin-bottom: 0\">\n&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p align=\"center\" style=\"line-height: 150%;margin-top: 0;margin-bottom: 0\">\n<font size=\"2\">Page <\/font><font size=\"2\" face=\"Times New Roman\">\u2013 89<\/font><\/p>\n<hr>\n<p align=\"justify\" style=\"text-indent: 0pt;line-height: 150%;margin-top: 0;margin-bottom: 0\">\n<p align=\"justify\" style=\"line-height: 150%;margin-top: 0;margin-bottom: 0;margin-left:25pt\">You write: &#8220;But why cannot the inner self be hidden from all in such lives?&#8221; I fail to understand how anyone could hide<br \/>\none&#8217;s inner self from Avatars and Vibhutis. <\/p>\n<p align=\"justify\" style=\"line-height: 150%;margin-top: 0;margin-bottom: 0\">An Avatar or Vibhuti have the knowledge that is necessary for<br \/>\ntheir work; they need not have more. There was absolutely no reason why Buddha should know what was going on in Rome.<br \/>\nAn Avatar even does not manifest all the Divine omniscience and omnipotence; he has not come for any such unnecessary display;<br \/>\nall that is behind him but not in the front of his consciousness. As for the Vibhuti, the Vibhuti need not even know that he is<br \/>\na power of the Divine. Some Vibhutis, like Julius Caesar for instance, have been atheists. Buddha himself did not believe<br \/>\nin a personal God, only in some impersonal and indescribable Permanent. <\/p>\n<p align=\"justify\" style=\"line-height: 150%;margin-top: 0;margin-bottom: 0;margin-left:25pt\">Still I can&#8217;t understand one thing: even though you did not cast off your veil, how could Krishna, Buddha and Christ not<br \/>\nhelp casting off their veil in order to recognise you? <\/p>\n<p align=\"justify\" style=\"line-height: 150%;margin-top: 0;margin-bottom: 0\">Why should they? The veil was there necessary for their work.<br \/>\nWhy should it be thrown off? So if the Mother was present in the life of Christ, she was there not as the Divine Manifestation but<br \/>\nas one altogether human. For her to be recognised as the Divine would have created a tremendous disorder and frustrated the<br \/>\nwork Christ came to do by breaking its proper limits. <\/p>\n<p align=\"justify\" style=\"line-height: 150%;margin-top: 0;margin-bottom: 0;margin-left:25pt\">Moreover, you must have heard that just before Christ was<br \/>\nborn some Rishis from India knew of the divine Descent and set out for Jerusalem merely by their inspiration, though they<br \/>\nhad not known what and where Jerusalem was. <\/p>\n<p align=\"justify\" style=\"line-height: 150%;margin-top: 0;margin-bottom: 0\">I never heard of Rishis from India going there. There is a legend<br \/>\nof some Mages getting an intimation that a divine Birth was there on earth and following a star that led them to the stable in<br \/>\nwhich Christ was born. But this is a legend, not history.<\/p>\n<p align=\"justify\" style=\"line-height: 150%;margin-top: 0;margin-bottom: 0\">\n<p align=\"right\" style=\"line-height: 150%;margin-top: 0;margin-bottom: 0\">29 September 1935 <\/p>\n<p align=\"center\" style=\"line-height: 150%;margin-top: 0;margin-bottom: 0\">\n<p align=\"center\" style=\"line-height: 150%;margin-top: 0;margin-bottom: 0\">&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p align=\"center\" style=\"line-height: 150%;margin-top: 0;margin-bottom: 0\">*<\/p>\n<p align=\"center\" style=\"line-height: 150%;margin-top: 0;margin-bottom: 0\">&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p align=\"center\" style=\"line-height: 150%;margin-top: 0;margin-bottom: 0\">\n<font size=\"2\">Page <\/font><font size=\"2\" face=\"Times New Roman\">\u2013 90<\/font><\/p>\n<hr>\n<p align=\"justify\" style=\"line-height: 150%;margin-top: 0;margin-bottom: 0;margin-left:25pt\">Since you and the Mother were on earth constantly from the beginning what was the need for Avataras coming down here<br \/>\none after another? <\/p>\n<p align=\"justify\" style=\"line-height: 150%;margin-top: 0;margin-bottom: 0\">We were not on earth as Avataras. <\/p>\n<p align=\"right\" style=\"line-height: 150%;margin-top: 0;margin-bottom: 0\">15 December 1935 <\/p>\n<p align=\"center\" style=\"line-height: 150%;margin-top: 0;margin-bottom: 0\">\n<p align=\"center\" style=\"line-height: 150%;margin-top: 0;margin-bottom: 0\">&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p align=\"center\" style=\"line-height: 150%;margin-top: 0;margin-bottom: 0\">*<\/p>\n<p align=\"center\" style=\"line-height: 150%;margin-top: 0;margin-bottom: 0\">&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p align=\"center\" style=\"line-height: 150%;margin-top: 0;margin-bottom: 0\">&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p align=\"justify\" style=\"line-height: 150%;margin-top: 0;margin-bottom: 0;margin-left:25pt\">You say that you both were not on earth as Avatars and yet you were carrying on the evolution. Since the Divine Himself<br \/>\nwas on the earth carrying on the evolution, what was the necessity for the coming down of the Avatars who are portions<br \/>\nof Himself? <\/p>\n<p align=\"justify\" style=\"line-height: 150%;margin-top: 0;margin-bottom: 0\">The Avatar is necessary when a special work is to be done and<br \/>\nin crises of the evolution. The Avatar is a special manifestation, while for the rest of the time it is the Divine working within the<br \/>\nordinary human limits as a Vibhuti.<\/p>\n<p align=\"justify\" style=\"line-height: 150%;margin-top: 0;margin-bottom: 0\">\n<p align=\"right\" style=\"line-height: 150%;margin-top: 0;margin-bottom: 0\">18 December 1935 <\/p>\n<p align=\"center\" style=\"line-height: 150%;margin-top: 0;margin-bottom: 0\"><b><br \/>\n<a name=\"The_Guru,_the_Divine_and_the_Truth_\">The Guru, the Divine and the Truth<\/a><\/b><\/p>\n<p align=\"center\" style=\"line-height: 150%;margin-top: 0;margin-bottom: 0\">&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p align=\"justify\" style=\"line-height: 150%;margin-top: 0;margin-bottom: 0;margin-left:25pt\">Is there really any difference between the Guru, the Divine and<br \/>\nthe Truth in our Yoga? I have been considering that the Mother and yourself are not only the Gurus but also the Divine, and<br \/>\nthat whatever either of you say is the law of the Truth. Why then are you using these three different words?<sup>3<\/sup> <\/p>\n<p align=\"justify\" style=\"line-height: 150%;margin-top: 0;margin-bottom: 0\">I wrote the general law of spiritual life and obedience. You have to know that as well as its special application here. Moreover<br \/>\nmany here are satisfied with saying &#8220;The Mother is divine,&#8221; but they do not follow her commands. Others do not really regard<br \/>\nher as Divine&nbsp; \u2014they treat her as if she were an ordinary Guru.<\/p>\n<p align=\"justify\" style=\"line-height: 150%;margin-top: 0;margin-bottom: 0\">\n<p align=\"right\" style=\"line-height: 150%;margin-top: 0;margin-bottom: 0\">13 June 1933 <\/p>\n<p align=\"center\" style=\"line-height: 150%;margin-top: 0;margin-bottom: 0\">\n<p align=\"center\" style=\"line-height: 150%;margin-top: 0;margin-bottom: 0\">&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p align=\"center\" style=\"line-height: 150%;margin-top: 0;margin-bottom: 0\">*<\/p>\n<p align=\"center\" style=\"line-height: 150%;margin-top: 0;margin-bottom: 0\">&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p align=\"center\" style=\"line-height: 150%;margin-top: 0;margin-bottom: 0\">&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p align=\"justify\" style=\"line-height: 150%;margin-top: 0;margin-bottom: 0;margin-left:25pt\">Yesterday you spoke about the Mother&#8217;s commands. What are<br \/>\nthey? I want to try to follow them. <\/p>\n<p align=\"justify\" style=\"line-height: 150%;margin-top: 0;margin-bottom: 0;margin-left:25pt\">&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p align=\"justify\" style=\"line-height: 150%;margin-top: 0;margin-bottom: 0;text-indent:25px\">\n\t\t\t<font size=\"2\">3 <i>See letter of 12 June 1933, published on page 672 of<br \/>\n<\/i>Letters on Himself and the<br \/>\nAshram<i>, volume 35 of <\/i>T<\/font><font size=\"1\">HE<\/font><font size=\"2\"> C<\/font><font size=\"1\">OMPLETE WORKS OF<\/font><font size=\"2\"> S<\/font><font size=\"1\">RI<\/font><font size=\"2\"> A<\/font><font size=\"1\">UROBINDO<\/font><font size=\"2\"><i>.&nbsp; \u2014Ed.<\/i><\/font><\/p>\n<p align=\"justify\" style=\"text-indent: 25pt;line-height: 150%;margin-top: 0;margin-bottom: 0\">&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p align=\"center\" style=\"line-height: 150%;margin-top: 0;margin-bottom: 0\">\n<font size=\"2\">Page <\/font><font size=\"2\" face=\"Times New Roman\">\u2013 91<\/font><\/p>\n<hr>\n<p align=\"justify\" style=\"text-indent: 0pt;line-height: 150%;margin-top: 0;margin-bottom: 0\">\n<p align=\"justify\" style=\"line-height: 150%;margin-top: 0;margin-bottom: 0\">They are supposed to be known. You have to do the right thing and follow the Yoga sincerely. <\/p>\n<p align=\"right\" style=\"line-height: 150%;margin-top: 0;margin-bottom: 0\">14 June 1933 <\/p>\n<p align=\"center\" style=\"line-height: 150%;margin-top: 0;margin-bottom: 0\">\n\t\t\t<b><a name=\"The_Mother,_Sri_Aurobindo_and_the_Overmind__\">The Mother, Sri Aurobindo and the Overmind<br \/>\n\t\t\t<\/a> <\/b><\/p>\n<p align=\"center\" style=\"line-height: 150%;margin-top: 0;margin-bottom: 0\">&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p align=\"justify\" style=\"line-height: 150%;margin-top: 0;margin-bottom: 0\">Even the Overmind is for all but the Mother and myself either unrealised or only an influence, mostly subjective. <\/p>\n<p align=\"right\" style=\"line-height: 150%;margin-top: 0;margin-bottom: 0\">24 March 1934 <\/p>\n<p align=\"center\" style=\"line-height: 150%;margin-top: 0;margin-bottom: 0\">\n\t\t\t<b><br \/>\n\t\t\t<a name=\"The_Mother,_Sri_Aurobindo_and_the_Supramental_Descent__\">The Mother, Sri Aurobindo and the Supramental Descent<br \/>\n\t\t\t<\/a> <\/b><\/p>\n<p align=\"center\" style=\"line-height: 150%;margin-top: 0;margin-bottom: 0\">\n\t\t\t<i><\/p>\n<p align=\"justify\" style=\"line-height: 150%;margin-top: 0;margin-bottom: 0;margin-left:25pt\">X <\/i>has made the following remark: &#8220;The present preparation is going on to bring down the Supermind into the physical of<br \/>\nthe Mother and Sri Aurobindo.&#8221; Is it correct? <\/p>\n<p align=\"justify\" style=\"line-height: 150%;margin-top: 0;margin-bottom: 0\">[<i>Sri Aurobindo bracketed &#8220;The present preparation is going on<\/i><br \/>\n<i>to bring down the Supermind into the physical&#8221;, and wrote:<\/i>] Not quite correct in all points. The things to be brought down<br \/>\nwere in us no doubt&nbsp; \u2014but not all outwardly manifested, from the beginning. Of course<br \/>\n<i>X<\/i>&#8216;s statement is altogether true only as<br \/>\nfar as the bracket goes.<\/p>\n<p align=\"justify\" style=\"line-height: 150%;margin-top: 0;margin-bottom: 0\">\n<p align=\"right\" style=\"line-height: 150%;margin-top: 0;margin-bottom: 0\">14 September 1935 <\/p>\n<p align=\"center\" style=\"line-height: 150%;margin-top: 0;margin-bottom: 0\">\n<p align=\"center\" style=\"line-height: 150%;margin-top: 0;margin-bottom: 0\">&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p align=\"center\" style=\"line-height: 150%;margin-top: 0;margin-bottom: 0\">*<\/p>\n<p align=\"center\" style=\"line-height: 150%;margin-top: 0;margin-bottom: 0\">&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p align=\"center\" style=\"line-height: 150%;margin-top: 0;margin-bottom: 0\">&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p align=\"justify\" style=\"line-height: 150%;margin-top: 0;margin-bottom: 0;margin-left:25pt\">When you wrote &#8220;as far as the bracket goes&#8221;, did you not<br \/>\nnotice that you cut off the last part of <i>X<\/i>&#8216;s answer? <\/p>\n<p align=\"justify\" style=\"line-height: 150%;margin-top: 0;margin-bottom: 0\">Yes, of course. What is being done is meant to prepare the<br \/>\nmanifestation of the supermind in the earth \u2014consciousness down to Matter itself, so it can&#8217;t be for the physical of myself or the<br \/>\nMother alone.<\/p>\n<p align=\"justify\" style=\"line-height: 150%;margin-top: 0;margin-bottom: 0\">\n<p align=\"right\" style=\"line-height: 150%;margin-top: 0;margin-bottom: 0\">15 September 1935 <\/p>\n<p align=\"center\" style=\"line-height: 150%;margin-top: 0;margin-bottom: 0\">\n<p align=\"center\" style=\"line-height: 150%;margin-top: 0;margin-bottom: 0\">&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p align=\"center\" style=\"line-height: 150%;margin-top: 0;margin-bottom: 0\">*<\/p>\n<p align=\"center\" style=\"line-height: 150%;margin-top: 0;margin-bottom: 0\">&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p align=\"center\" style=\"line-height: 150%;margin-top: 0;margin-bottom: 0\">&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p align=\"justify\" style=\"line-height: 150%;margin-top: 0;margin-bottom: 0;margin-left:25pt\">It seems to me that if the Supermind has not descended into<br \/>\nMother&#8217;s body \u2014consciousness, it is not because she is not ready for it, but because she has first to prepare the physical of the<br \/>\nsadhaks and of the earth to a certain extent. But some people here take it in the wrong way; they think that the Supermind<br \/>\n\thas not yet descended into her body because she has not yet reached<br \/>\n\tperfection. Am I right? <\/p>\n<p align=\"justify\" style=\"text-indent: 25pt;line-height: 150%;margin-top: 0;margin-bottom: 0\">&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p align=\"center\" style=\"line-height: 150%;margin-top: 0;margin-bottom: 0\">\n<font size=\"2\">Page <\/font><font size=\"2\" face=\"Times New Roman\">\u2013 92<\/font><\/p>\n<hr>\n<p align=\"justify\" style=\"line-height: 150%;margin-top: 0;margin-bottom: 0\">Certainly. If we had lived physically in the Supermind from the beginning, nobody would have been able to approach us<br \/>\nnor could the sadhana have been done. There could have been no hope of contact between ourselves and the earth and men.<br \/>\nEven as it is, Mother has to come down towards the lower consciousness of the sadhaks instead of keeping always in her<br \/>\nown, otherwise they begin to say, &#8220;How far away, how severe you were; you do not love me, I get no help from you etc. etc.&#8221;<br \/>\nThe Divine has to veil himself in order to meet the human.<\/p>\n<p align=\"justify\" style=\"line-height: 150%;margin-top: 0;margin-bottom: 0\">\n<p align=\"right\" style=\"line-height: 150%;margin-top: 0;margin-bottom: 0\">18 October 1935 <\/p>\n<p align=\"center\" style=\"line-height: 150%;margin-top: 0;margin-bottom: 0\"><b><br \/>\n<a name=\"The_Triple_Transformation_and_Control_over_Death__\">The Triple Transformation and Control over Death<br \/>\n<\/a><br \/>\n<\/b><\/p>\n<p align=\"center\" style=\"line-height: 150%;margin-top: 0;margin-bottom: 0\">&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p align=\"justify\" style=\"line-height: 150%;margin-top: 0;margin-bottom: 0\">There are three stages of the sadhana, psychic change, transition<br \/>\nto the higher levels of consciousness&nbsp; \u2014with a descent of their powers, conscious forces&nbsp;<br \/>\n\t\u2014the supramental. In the last even<br \/>\nthe control over death is a later, not an initial stage. Each of these stages demands a great length of time and a high and long<br \/>\nendeavour. The legend related to you comes partly from a false idea that Mother and Sri Aurobindo will bring down everything<br \/>\nand the sadhaks have only to wait and receive, a misconception responsible for much inner indolence and inertia, and the fact<br \/>\nthat for a long time a certain protection was over the Asram so that there was no death of any sadhak and little illness&nbsp;<br \/>\n\t\u2014the legend survives, though the circumstances are not now the same. <\/p>\n<p align=\"right\" style=\"line-height: 150%;margin-top: 0;margin-bottom: 0\">26<br \/>\nJuly 1937<\/p>\n<p align=\"justify\" style=\"text-indent: 25pt;line-height: 150%;margin-top: 0;margin-bottom: 0\">&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p align=\"center\" style=\"line-height: 150%;margin-top: 0;margin-bottom: 0\">\n<font size=\"2\">Page <\/font><font size=\"2\" face=\"Times New Roman\">\u2013 93<\/font><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<\/table>\n<\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Incarnation and Evolution &nbsp; The Mystery of Incarnation &nbsp; Many years ago, the Mother wrote regarding life in the Asram: &#8220;In our daily practices we&#8230;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[56],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-2958","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-32-the-mother-with-letters-on-the-mother","wpcat-56-id"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/worksofthemotherandsriaurobindo.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/2958","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/worksofthemotherandsriaurobindo.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/worksofthemotherandsriaurobindo.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/worksofthemotherandsriaurobindo.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/worksofthemotherandsriaurobindo.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=2958"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/worksofthemotherandsriaurobindo.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/2958\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/worksofthemotherandsriaurobindo.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=2958"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/worksofthemotherandsriaurobindo.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=2958"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/worksofthemotherandsriaurobindo.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=2958"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}