{"id":3877,"date":"2013-07-13T01:51:55","date_gmt":"2013-07-13T01:51:55","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/localhost\/?p=3877"},"modified":"2013-07-13T01:51:55","modified_gmt":"2013-07-13T01:51:55","slug":"06-9-february-1955-vol-07-questions-and-answers-volume-07","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/worksofthemotherandsriaurobindo.org\/index.php\/02-works-of-the-mother\/01-cwmce\/07-questions-and-answers-volume-07\/06-9-february-1955-vol-07-questions-and-answers-volume-07","title":{"rendered":"-06_9 February 1955.htm"},"content":{"rendered":"<table border=\"0\" cellpadding=\"6\" style=\"border-collapse: collapse\" width=\"100%\">\n<tr>\n<td>\n<div class=\"Section1\">\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><b><i><br \/>\n<span lang=\"EN-US\" style='font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'><font size=\"3\">9 February 1955<\/font><\/span><\/i><\/b><b><i><span lang=\"EN-US\" style='font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'><font size=\"3\"><br \/>\n<\/font> <\/span><\/i><\/b><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-US\" style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>&nbsp;<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-US\" style='font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'><font size=\"2\">This talk is<br \/>\nbased upon Bases of Yoga, Chapter 4,<\/font><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-US\" style='font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'><span><font size=\"2\">\u00a0<\/font><\/span><font size=\"2\">\u201cDesire \u2013 Food &#8211; Sex\u201d.<br \/>\n<\/font> <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-US\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>&nbsp;<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><i><span lang=\"EN-US\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>Sweet Mother, here we<br \/>\nhave: \u201cThe Sun and the Light may be a help, and will be\u2026\u201d? <\/span><\/i><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-US\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>&nbsp;<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-US\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>Obviously<br \/>\nit is someone who had written an experience in which he was in contact with a<br \/>\nsun and a light, and he wanted to take the support of these as a help in the<br \/>\nsadhana. It is the answer to an experience. <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-US\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>&nbsp;<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><i><span lang=\"EN-US\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>Sweet Mother, is desire<br \/>\ncontagious? <\/span><\/i><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-US\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>&nbsp;<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-US\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>Ah,<br \/>\nyes, very contagious, my child. It is even much more contagious than illness.<br \/>\nIf someone next to you has a desire, immediately it enters you; and in fact it<br \/>\nis mainly in this way that it is caught. It passes from one to another\u2026<br \/>\nTerribly contagious, in such a powerful way that one is not even aware that it<br \/>\nis a contagion. Suddenly one feels something springing up in oneself; someone<br \/>\nhas gently put it inside. Of course, one could say, \u201cWhy aren&#8217;t people with<br \/>\ndesires quarantined?\u201d Then we should have to quarantine everybody. (<i>Mother laughs<\/i>) <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-US\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>&nbsp;<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><i><span lang=\"EN-US\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>Where does desire come<br \/>\nfrom? <\/span><\/i><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-US\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>&nbsp;<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-US\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>The<br \/>\nBuddha said that it comes from ignorance. It is more or less that. It is<br \/>\nsomething in the being which fancies that it needs something else in order to<br \/>\nbe satisfied. And the proof that it is ignorance is that when one has satisfied<br \/>\nit, one no longer cares for it, at least ninety-nine and a half times out of a<br \/>\nhundred. I believe, right at its origin it is an obscure need for growth, as in<br \/>\nthe lowest forms of life love is changed into the need to swallow,<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" align=\"center\" style='margin:0;text-align:center;line-height:150%'>\n<span lang=\"EN-US\" style='font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>Page \u2013<br \/>\n37<\/span><\/p>\n<div class=\"MsoNormal\" align=\"center\" style='text-align:center'><span lang=\"EN-US\"><\/p>\n<hr size=\"2\" width=\"100%\" align=\"center\">\n<p><\/span><\/div>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-US\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>absorb, become joined with another thing. This is the most primitive form of<br \/>\nlove in the lowest forms of life, it is to take and absorb. Well, the need to<br \/>\ntake is desire. So perhaps if we went back far enough into the last depths of<br \/>\nthe inconscience, we could say that the origin of desire is love. It is love in<br \/>\nits obscurest and most unconscious form. It is a need to become joined with<br \/>\nsomething, an attraction, a need to take, you see. <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;text-indent:.25in;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-US\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>Take for instance\u2026 you see something which is <\/span><span lang=\"EN-US\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>\u2013<\/span><span lang=\"EN-US\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'> which seems to you or<br \/>\nis <\/span><span lang=\"EN-US\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>\u2013<\/span><span lang=\"EN-US\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'><br \/>\nvery beautiful, very harmonious, very pleasant; if you have the true<br \/>\nconsciousness, you experience this joy of seeing, of being in a conscious<br \/>\ncontact with something very beautiful, very harmonious, and then that&#8217;s all. It<br \/>\nstops there. You have the joy of it <\/span><span lang=\"EN-US\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>\u2013<\/span><span lang=\"EN-US\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'> that such a thing exists, you see. And this is quite<br \/>\ncommon among artists who have a sense of beauty. For example, an artist may see<br \/>\na beautiful creature and have the joy of observing the beauty, grace, harmony<br \/>\nof movement and all that, and that&#8217;s all. It stops there. He is perfectly<br \/>\nhappy, perfectly satisfied, because he has seen something beautiful. An<br \/>\nordinary consciousness, altogether ordinary, dull like all ordinary<br \/>\nconsciousness <\/span><span lang=\"EN-US\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>\u2013<\/span><span lang=\"EN-US\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'><br \/>\nas soon as it sees something beautiful, whether it be an object or a person,<br \/>\nhop! \u201cI want it!\u201d It is deplorable, you know. And into the bargain it doesn&#8217;t<br \/>\neven have the joy of the beauty, because it has the anguish of desire. It<br \/>\nmisses that and has nothing in exchange, because there is nothing pleasant in<br \/>\ndesiring anything. It only puts you in an unpleasant state, that&#8217;s all. <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;text-indent:.25in;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-US\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>The Buddha has said that there is a greater joy in overcoming a desire<br \/>\nthan in satisfying it. It is an experience everybody can have and one that is<br \/>\ntruly very interesting, very interesting. <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;text-indent:.25in;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-US\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>There was someone who was invited <\/span><span lang=\"EN-US\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>\u2013<\/span><span lang=\"EN-US\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'> it happened in <\/span><br \/>\n<span lang=\"EN-US\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>Paris<\/span><span lang=\"EN-US\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'> <\/span><span lang=\"EN-US\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>\u2013<\/span><span lang=\"EN-US\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'> invited to a<br \/>\nfirst-night (a first-night means a first performance) of an opera of<br \/>\nMassenet&#8217;s. I think\u2026 I don&#8217;t remember now whose it was. The subject was fine,<br \/>\nthe play was fine, and the music not displeasing; it was the first time and<br \/>\nthis person was invited to the box of the Minister of Fine Arts who always<\/span><span lang=\"EN-US\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>&nbsp;<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" align=\"center\" style='margin:0;text-align:center;line-height:150%'>\n<span lang=\"EN-US\" style='font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>Page \u2013<br \/>\n38<\/span><\/p>\n<div class=\"MsoNormal\" align=\"center\" style='text-align:center'><span lang=\"EN-US\"><\/p>\n<hr size=\"2\" width=\"100%\" align=\"center\">\n<p><\/span><\/div>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-US\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>has<br \/>\na box for all the first nights at the government theatres. This Minister of<br \/>\nFine Arts was a simple person, an old countryside man, who had not lived much<br \/>\nin Paris, who was quite new in his ministry and took a truly childlike joy in<br \/>\nseeing new things. Yet he was a polite man and as he had invited a lady he gave<br \/>\nher the front seat and himself sat at the back. But he felt very unhappy<br \/>\nbecause he could not see everything. He leaned forward like this, trying to see<br \/>\nsomething without showing it too much. Now, the lady who was in front noticed<br \/>\nthis. She too was very interested and was finding it very fine, and it was not<br \/>\nthat she did not like it, she liked it very much and was enjoying the show; but<br \/>\nshe saw how very unhappy that poor minister looked, not being able to see. So<br \/>\nquite casually, you see, she pushed back her chair, went back a little, as<br \/>\nthough she was thinking of something else, and drew back so well that he came<br \/>\nforward and could now see the whole scene. Well, this person, when she drew<br \/>\nback and gave up all desire to see the show, was filled with a sense of inner<br \/>\njoy, a liberation from all attachment to things and a kind of peace, content to<br \/>\nhave done something for somebody instead of having satisfied herself, to the<br \/>\nextent that the evening brought her infinitely greater pleasure than if she had<br \/>\nlistened to the opera. This is a true experience, it is not a little story read<br \/>\nin a book, and it was precisely at the time this person was studying Buddhist<br \/>\ndiscipline, and it was in conformity with the saying of the Buddha that she<br \/>\ntried this experiment. <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;text-indent:.25in;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-US\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>And truly this was so concrete an experience, you know, so real that\u2026<br \/>\nah, two seconds later, you see, the play, the music, the actors, the scene, the<br \/>\npictures and all that were gone like absolutely secondary things, completely<br \/>\nunimportant, while this joy of having mastered something in oneself and done<br \/>\nsomething not simply selfish, this joy filled all the being with an<br \/>\nincomparable serenity <\/span><span lang=\"EN-US\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>\u2013<\/span><span lang=\"EN-US\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'> a delightful experience\u2026 Well, it is not just an<br \/>\nindividual, personal experience. All those who want to try can have it. <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;text-indent:.25in;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-US\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>There is a kind of inner communion with the psychic being<br \/>\n&nbsp;<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" align=\"center\" style='margin:0;text-align:center;line-height:150%'>\n<span lang=\"EN-US\" style='font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>Page \u2013<br \/>\n39<\/span><\/p>\n<div class=\"MsoNormal\" align=\"center\" style='text-align:center'><span lang=\"EN-US\"><\/p>\n<hr size=\"2\" width=\"100%\" align=\"center\">\n<p><\/span><\/div>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-US\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>which<br \/>\ntakes place when one willingly gives up a desire, and because of this one feels<br \/>\na much greater joy than if he had satisfied his desire. Besides, most usually,<br \/>\nalmost without exception, when one satisfies a desire it always leaves a kind<br \/>\nof bitter taste somewhere. <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;text-indent:.25in;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-US\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>There is not one satisfied desire which does not give a kind of<br \/>\nbitterness; as when one has eaten too sugary a sweet it fills your mouth with<br \/>\nbitterness. It is like that. You must try sincerely. Naturally you must not<br \/>\npretend to give up desire and keep it in a corner, because then one becomes<br \/>\nvery unhappy. You must do it sincerely. <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-US\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>&nbsp;<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><i><span lang=\"EN-US\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>How is the psychic need<br \/>\nrealised? <\/span><\/i><br \/>\n<span lang=\"EN-US\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>&nbsp;<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" align=\"center\" style='margin:0;text-align:center;line-height:150%'><i><span lang=\"EN-US\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>(Silence)<\/span><\/i><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-US\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>&nbsp;<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-US\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>I<br \/>\nheard you clearly. But it is the meaning of your question which I don&#8217;t<br \/>\nunderstand. <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-US\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>&nbsp;<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><i><span lang=\"EN-US\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>When one realises in the<br \/>\nmind? <\/span><\/i><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-US\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>&nbsp;<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-US\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>Oh,<br \/>\noh, no, not at all. \u201cThe psychic need is realised\u201d, you mean, \u201cHow is it<br \/>\nrealised? How is it expressed in the outer life?\u201d What do you call \u201crealising\u201d?<br \/>\nNot clear? It is not very clear in your thought? \u201cPsychic need\u201d to begin with,<br \/>\nwhat do you call \u201cthe psychic need\u201d? The need to know one&#8217;s psychic being or<br \/>\nthe need of the psychic to express itself? <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-US\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>&nbsp;<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><i><span lang=\"EN-US\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>The psychic&#8217;s need to<br \/>\nexpress itself. <\/span><\/i><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-US\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>&nbsp;<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-US\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>It<br \/>\nexpresses itself by realising itself, expressing itself. <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-US\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>&nbsp;<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><i><span lang=\"EN-US\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>In what way? <\/span><\/i><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-US\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>&nbsp;<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-US\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>You<br \/>\nmean whether it needs to go through the mind? Thank<br \/>\n&nbsp;<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" align=\"center\" style='margin:0;text-align:center;line-height:150%'>\n<span lang=\"EN-US\" style='font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>Page \u2013<br \/>\n40<\/span><\/p>\n<div class=\"MsoNormal\" align=\"center\" style='text-align:center'><span lang=\"EN-US\"><\/p>\n<hr size=\"2\" width=\"100%\" align=\"center\">\n<p><\/span><\/div>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-US\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>God,<br \/>\nno, because it would be a very difficult operation. The psychic need is an<br \/>\nexpression of the divine Grace and it is expressed by the divine Grace. <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;text-indent:.25in;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-US\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>Psychic life in the universe is a work of the divine Grace. Psychic<br \/>\ngrowth is a work of the divine Grace and the ultimate power of the psychic<br \/>\nbeing over the physical-being will also be a result of the divine Grace. And<br \/>\nthe mind, if it wants to be at all useful, has only to remain very quiet, as<br \/>\nquiet as it can, because if it meddles in it, it is sure to spoil everything. <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-US\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>&nbsp;<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><i><span lang=\"EN-US\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>So there will be no need<br \/>\nof the mind? <\/span><\/i><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-US\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>&nbsp;<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-US\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>Ah,<br \/>\nexcuse me, I did not say that one doesn&#8217;t need the mind. The mind is useful for<br \/>\nsomething else. The mind is an instrument for formation and organisation, and<br \/>\nif the mind lets the psychic make use of it, that will be very good. But it is<br \/>\nnot the mind which will help the psychic to manifest. The roles are reversed.<br \/>\nThe mind can be an instrument for the manifestation of the psychic later, when<br \/>\nit has already taken possession of the outer consciousness. It is rarely so<br \/>\nbefore that. Usually it is a veil and an obstruction. But surely it can&#8217;t help<br \/>\nin the manifestation. It can help in the action if it takes its true place and<br \/>\ntrue movement. And if it becomes completely docile to the psychic inspiration,<br \/>\nit can help to organise life, for this is its function, its reason of<br \/>\nexistence. But first of all the psychic being must have taken possession of the<br \/>\nfield, must be the master of the house. Then, later, things can be arranged. <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;text-indent:.25in;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-US\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>There is only one way for the outer being. Let us take the physical<br \/>\nbeing <\/span><span lang=\"EN-US\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>\u2013<\/span><span lang=\"EN-US\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'><br \/>\nthe physical being, the poor little physical being, the outer being, which<br \/>\nknows nothing, can do nothing by itself. Well, for it there is only one way of<br \/>\nallowing the psychic being to manifest: with the candid warmth of a child (<i>Mother speaks very softly<\/i>) to aspire,<br \/>\npray, ask, want with all its strength, without reasoning or trying to<br \/>\nunderstand. One can&#8217;t imagine how great an obstruction reasoning and this<br \/>\neffort to understand<br \/>\n&nbsp;<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" align=\"center\" style='margin:0;text-align:center;line-height:150%'>\n<span lang=\"EN-US\" style='font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>Page \u2013<br \/>\n41<\/span><\/p>\n<div class=\"MsoNormal\" align=\"center\" style='text-align:center'><span lang=\"EN-US\"><\/p>\n<hr size=\"2\" width=\"100%\" align=\"center\">\n<p><\/span><\/div>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-US\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>put<br \/>\nin the experience. At the moment when you are on the point of reaching a state<br \/>\nin which something will happen, some vibration will be changed in the<br \/>\nconsciousness of the being\u2026 you are all tense in an aspiration and have<br \/>\nsucceeded in fastening your aspiration, and you are standing there awaiting the<br \/>\nanswer, if this wretched mind begins to stir and to wonder, \u201cWhat is happening,<br \/>\nand what&#8217;s going to happen, when is it going to happen, how is it going to<br \/>\nhappen, and why is it like that, and in what order will things manifest?\u201d it is<br \/>\nall over, you may get up and sweep out your room, you are not fit for anything<br \/>\nelse. <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-US\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>&nbsp;<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><i><span lang=\"EN-US\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>Sweet Mother, can the<br \/>\npsychic express itself without the mind, the vital and the physical? <\/span><\/i><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-US\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>&nbsp;<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-US\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>It<br \/>\nexpresses itself constantly without them. Only, in order that the ordinary<br \/>\nhuman being may perceive it, it has to express itself through them, because the<br \/>\nordinary human being is not in direct contact with the psychic. If it was in<br \/>\ndirect contact with the psychic it would be psychic in its manifestation <\/span><span lang=\"EN-US\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>\u2013<\/span><span lang=\"EN-US\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'> and all would be truly<br \/>\nwell. But as it is not in contact with the psychic it doesn&#8217;t even know what it<br \/>\nis, it wonders all bewildered what kind of a being it can be; so to reach this<br \/>\nordinary human consciousness it must use ordinary means, that is, go through<br \/>\nthe mind, the vital and the physical. <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;text-indent:.25in;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-US\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>One of them may be skipped but surely not the last, otherwise one is no<br \/>\nlonger conscious of anything at all. The ordinary human being is conscious only<br \/>\nin his physical being, and only in relatively rare moments is he conscious of<br \/>\nhis mind, just a little more frequently of his vital, but all this is mixed up<br \/>\nin his consciousness, so much so that he would be quite unable to say \u201cThis<br \/>\nmovement comes from the mind, this from the vital, this from the physical.\u201d<br \/>\nThis already asks for a considerable development in order to be able to<br \/>\ndistinguish within oneself the source of the different movements one has. And<br \/>\nit is so mixed that even when one tries, at the beginning it is very difficult&nbsp;<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" align=\"center\" style='margin:0;text-align:center;line-height:150%'>\n<span lang=\"EN-US\" style='font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>Page \u2013<br \/>\n42<\/span><\/p>\n<div class=\"MsoNormal\" align=\"center\" style='text-align:center'><span lang=\"EN-US\"><\/p>\n<hr size=\"2\" width=\"100%\" align=\"center\">\n<p><\/span><\/div>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-US\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>to<br \/>\nclassify and separate one thing from another. <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;text-indent:.25in;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-US\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>It is as when one works with colours, takes three or four or five<br \/>\ndifferent colours and puts them in the same water and beats them up together,<br \/>\nit makes a grey, indistinct and incomprehensible mixture, you see, and one<br \/>\ncan&#8217;t say which is red, which blue, which green, which yellow; it is something<br \/>\ndirty, lots of colours mixed. So first of all one must do this little work of<br \/>\nseparating the red, blue, yellow, green <\/span><span lang=\"EN-US\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>\u2013 <\/span><span lang=\"EN-US\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>putting them like this,<br \/>\neach in its corner. It is not at all easy. <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;text-indent:.25in;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-US\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>I have met people who used to think themselves extremely intelligent, by<br \/>\nthe way, who thought they knew a lot, and when I spoke to them about the<br \/>\ndifferent parts of the being they looked at me like this <i>(gesture<\/i>) and asked me, \u201cBut what are you speaking about?\u201d They did<br \/>\nnot understand at all. I am speaking of people who have the reputation of being<br \/>\nintelligent. They don&#8217;t understand at all. For them it is just the<br \/>\nconsciousness; it is the consciousness <\/span><span lang=\"EN-US\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>\u2013<\/span><span lang=\"EN-US\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'> \u201cIt is my<br \/>\nconsciousness\u201d and then there is the neighbour&#8217;s consciousness; and again there<br \/>\nare things which do not have any consciousness. And then I asked them whether<br \/>\nanimals had a consciousness; so they began to scratch their heads and said,<br \/>\n\u201cPerhaps it is we who put our consciousness in the animal when we look at it,\u201d<br \/>\nlike that\u2026<span>\u00a0 <\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-US\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>&nbsp;<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><i><span lang=\"EN-US\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>Sweet Mother, when the<br \/>\npsychic being will be able to manifest itself perfectly, will it have any need<br \/>\nof the mind? <\/span><\/i><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-US\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>&nbsp;<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-US\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>It<br \/>\nwill not be able to manifest perfectly unless all the parts of the being<br \/>\ncollaborate. But I don&#8217;t think that the mind was fashioned with the intention<br \/>\nof making it disappear. It is a part of the general structure. <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;text-indent:.25in;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-US\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>Your body, you see, if it were without a mind it would be quite at a<br \/>\nloss. It would perhaps be more like a plant than a body. There is nothing that<br \/>\nyou do from morning to evening in which the mind does not have its action.&nbsp;<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" align=\"center\" style='margin:0;text-align:center;line-height:150%'>\n<span lang=\"EN-US\" style='font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>Page \u2013<br \/>\n43<\/span><span lang=\"EN-US\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'><\/span><\/p>\n<div class=\"MsoNormal\" align=\"center\" style='text-align:center'><span lang=\"EN-US\"><\/p>\n<hr size=\"2\" width=\"100%\" align=\"center\">\n<p><\/span><\/div>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><i><span lang=\"EN-US\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>But if the psychic<br \/>\nguided it? <\/span><\/i><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-US\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>&nbsp;<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-US\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>Well,<br \/>\nif the psychic guides the mind, the mind will act in a psychic way. Then it<br \/>\nwill be a remarkable mind, absolutely harmonious and doing the right thing in<br \/>\nthe right way. <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;text-indent:.25in;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-US\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>But the vital <\/span><span lang=\"EN-US\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>\u2013<\/span><span lang=\"EN-US\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'> is the same thing, exactly the same phenomenon for<br \/>\nthe vital. The vital as it is at present is said to be the cause of all the<br \/>\ntroubles and all the difficulties, the seat of the desires, passions, impulses,<br \/>\nrevolts, etc., etc. But if the vital is entirely surrendered to the psychic, it<br \/>\nbecomes a wonderful instrument, full of enthusiasm, power, force of<br \/>\nrealisation, impetus, courage. <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;text-indent:.25in;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-US\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>And then there remains the poor physical\u2026 The poor physical being has<br \/>\nbeen accused of all the misdeeds. In the days of old it was always said that it<br \/>\nwas impossible, one could do nothing with something so inert, so obscure, so<br \/>\nlittle receptive. But if it too was surrendered to the psychic it also would do<br \/>\nthe right thing in the right way, and then it would have a stability, a<br \/>\nquietude, an exactness in its movements which the other parts of the being<br \/>\ndon&#8217;t have, a precision in the execution which one can&#8217;t have without a body.<br \/>\nYou have only to see when the body is just a little out of order, when it is<br \/>\nill, how many things you can no longer do, even with a strong will, a great<br \/>\nconcentration of the vital and the mind. Even when one has the precise<br \/>\nknowledge of what ought to be done, if the body is out of order one can no<br \/>\nlonger do it. Even\u2026 I mean, even an activity which is not purely physical, as<br \/>\nfor instance, writing something. <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;text-indent:.25in;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-US\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>If your brain is a little unwell <\/span><span lang=\"EN-US\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>\u2013<\/span><span lang=\"EN-US\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'> fever, cold <\/span><span lang=\"EN-US\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>\u2013<\/span><span lang=\"EN-US\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'> is very difficult to<br \/>\nmake it work properly. There is lassitude and something vague, a difficulty in<br \/>\ncatching things with precision; there occur even very strange phenomena, ideas<br \/>\nget mixed up before one is able to express them, things enter into conflict<br \/>\nand<span>\u00a0 <\/span>contradict each other; instead of<br \/>\njoining together and coming in this way (<i>gesture<\/i>);<br \/>\nyou see, they begin to do this (<i>gesture<\/i>),<br \/>\nso then it creates a disorder. So one tries to catch this one and it <\/span><br \/>\n<span lang=\"EN-US\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'><br \/>\n&nbsp;<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" align=\"center\" style='margin:0;text-align:center;line-height:150%'>\n<span lang=\"EN-US\" style='font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>Page \u2013<br \/>\n44<\/span><\/p>\n<div class=\"MsoNormal\" align=\"center\" style='text-align:center'><span lang=\"EN-US\"><\/p>\n<hr size=\"2\" width=\"100%\" align=\"center\">\n<p><\/span><\/div>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-US\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>escapes.<br \/>\nOne goes to look for that one, hop! It runs away. And all this just because<br \/>\nthere is fever which has disturbed things a little, or a cold, you know, what<br \/>\nis called a cold in the head, which has slightly disturbed the functioning. If you<br \/>\nrise above it, you are absolutely lucid, you are fully conscious, have complete<br \/>\nlucidity. Even if you are extremely ill, it makes no difference. Up there you<br \/>\nknow everything perfectly, you see everything perfectly, you understand<br \/>\neverything perfectly, there is no change.<span>\u00a0<br \/>\n<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;text-indent:.25in;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-US\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>But if you want to put all that on paper, take pencil and paper and<br \/>\nbegin to write and formulate it, you will see that a slight disturbance comes<br \/>\nin like that, as I said; instead of things being grouped together and directed<br \/>\nas it usually happens in one&#8217;s normal state, they do this or go like that or<br \/>\nlike that (<i>gestures<\/i>), there is<br \/>\ndisorder\u2026 why, strangely it resembles ultramodern painting. It is like that. <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;text-indent:.25in;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-US\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>I always think that the artists who do this painting must be doing it in<br \/>\na fit of pretty high fever. Things come up in this way and when you try to put<br \/>\nthem in some reasonable order, there are always some which escape or hide<br \/>\nthemselves or run away like that, or come and knock against others, and all<br \/>\nthis creates an incoherence. <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;text-indent:.25in;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-US\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>It must be the most favourable condition for painting in the latest<br \/>\nstyle, it must be the very height of fever. Oh, I suspect they produce this by<br \/>\nartificial means. God knows what drug they take or what kind of hashish they<br \/>\neat or smoke, in what opium dreams they live <\/span><span lang=\"EN-US\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>\u2013<\/span><span lang=\"EN-US\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'> surely. People who<br \/>\nsmoke opium say they have marvellous visions. It must be something like that. (<i>Laughter<\/i>) <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;text-indent:.25in;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-US\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>I am speaking to you about this because soon perhaps you will be shown a<br \/>\ncollection of coloured photographs which we have received from a photographer<br \/>\nin\u2026 I think it&#8217;s <\/span><span lang=\"EN-US\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>California<\/span><span lang=\"EN-US\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>. <\/span><span lang=\"EN-US\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>Los Angeles<\/span><span lang=\"EN-US\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'> is in <\/span><span lang=\"EN-US\" style='font-size:  12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>California<\/span><span lang=\"EN-US\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>, isn&#8217;t it? (<i>Mother asks Pavitra<\/i>)<br \/>\nI still know my geography! <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;text-indent:.25in;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-US\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>Well, you see, it is absolutely ultra-modern painting. It is <\/span><br \/>\n<span lang=\"EN-US\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'><br \/>\n&nbsp;<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" align=\"center\" style='margin:0;text-align:center;line-height:150%'>\n<span lang=\"EN-US\" style='font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>Page \u2013<br \/>\n45<\/span><\/p>\n<div class=\"MsoNormal\" align=\"center\" style='text-align:center'><span lang=\"EN-US\"><\/p>\n<hr size=\"2\" width=\"100%\" align=\"center\">\n<p><\/span><\/div>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-US\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>photography.<br \/>\nThere is no painting there, it is photography. They are negatives printed on<br \/>\nphotographic paper in colour. The colour is admirable. I don&#8217;t know any painter<br \/>\nwho can produce such beautiful, living warm colours, so marvellously beautiful.<br \/>\nBut the composition is ultra-modern. What is most\u2026 oh, let us call it<br \/>\n\u201creasonable\u201d <\/span><span lang=\"EN-US\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>\u2013<\/span><span lang=\"EN-US\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'><br \/>\nif I say \u201creasonable\u201d they immediately think: \u201cThen it must be ugly\u201d, but it is<br \/>\ntrue, from a certain point of view it is true, yet <\/span><span lang=\"EN-US\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>\u2013<\/span><span lang=\"EN-US\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'> the most reasonable<br \/>\nthing which is still not reasonable enough to be ugly, is, I think, the<br \/>\nportrait of the photographer-artist; I don&#8217;t know, he doesn&#8217;t say that it is<br \/>\nhis photo but he gives a small name, you see: \u201cSo-and-so is concentrating\u201d, I<br \/>\nthink, or something like that: \u201cSomeone is concentrating, reflecting, going<br \/>\nwithin\u201d, something like that. The titles are very fine, they are also<br \/>\nultra-modern. There is this one: so we see the gentleman a bit tenuous as<br \/>\nthough seen through a veil, a light veil, but it is still a man&#8217;s head. We see<br \/>\nthat it&#8217;s the photograph of a head, and the head is not distorted. It is<br \/>\ncompletely there, only a little withdrawn in the background, you see; and then<br \/>\nright in the foreground there are brilliant lines with tortuous forms, zigzags,<br \/>\nintercrossing things, others which sprout up like the beginnings of branches<br \/>\nand leaves, with brilliant colours. All this is in the front, because you see<br \/>\nhe came out of the physical, went into the background and entered within<br \/>\nhimself <\/span><span lang=\"EN-US\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>\u2013<\/span><span lang=\"EN-US\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'><br \/>\ninside himself <\/span><span lang=\"EN-US\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>\u2013<\/span><span lang=\"EN-US\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'> that&#8217;s it, these zigzags, twistings, efflorescences. And the colour is<br \/>\nmarvellous, exquisite. This is \u201cMr. So-and-so goes within\u201d. It&#8217;s the thing we<br \/>\ncan understand best, we poor people who are not ultra-modern. That&#8217;s what we<br \/>\ncan understand best. There are others. We wonder why there&#8217;s the title on the<br \/>\npicture. You should ask the author, he would explain it to you. But just<br \/>\nimagine, it is beautiful; it doesn&#8217;t make sense, it has a false feel, but it is<br \/>\nbeautiful. It is so beautiful that I said we had to have an exhibition, that it<br \/>\ngave me the idea of making photographs like that\u2026 not I, I am no photographer,<br \/>\nI know nothing about it, but to have photographs like this made by a<br \/>\nphotographer; but then unfortunately with an idea at the <\/span><br \/>\n<span lang=\"EN-US\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'><br \/>\n&nbsp;<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" align=\"center\" style='margin:0;text-align:center;line-height:150%'>\n<span lang=\"EN-US\" style='font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>Page \u2013<br \/>\n46<\/span><\/p>\n<div class=\"MsoNormal\" align=\"center\" style='text-align:center'><span lang=\"EN-US\"><\/p>\n<hr size=\"2\" width=\"100%\" align=\"center\">\n<p><\/span><\/div>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-US\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>back.<br \/>\nSo that will not be at all ultra-modern. But if one could find, you see, how to<br \/>\nuse these colours for something which I call expressive, it could become<br \/>\nwonderful, truly wonderful. That will take a year, perhaps more to be realised.<br \/>\nBut still, the guilty one is this gentleman with his photography. <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;text-indent:.25in;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-US\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>It seems that he is famous all over the world <\/span><span lang=\"EN-US\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>\u2013<\/span><span lang=\"EN-US\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'> but I understand<br \/>\nnothing of all this, you see <\/span><span lang=\"EN-US\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>\u2013<\/span><span lang=\"EN-US\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'> and that it means a considerable labour to do<br \/>\nsomething like this. Of course, these are superimpositions of negatives, a<br \/>\nnegative taken of these superimpositions, and this is still very complicated. I<br \/>\nam not trying to explain it to you, I don&#8217;t understand anything about it, but I<br \/>\nam told that it was a lot of work, very difficult, the mastery of an extremely<br \/>\ncomplicated technique and an effect which has never been achieved before. These<br \/>\nare coloured photographs as large as this, that&#8217;s very large for coloured<br \/>\nphotographs. And there&#8217;s a red in them\u2026 Oh, the most beautiful reds that Nature<br \/>\nhas been able to produce in flowers or sunsets <\/span><span lang=\"EN-US\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>\u2013<\/span><span lang=\"EN-US\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'> this is still more<br \/>\nbeautiful. But how he has done it I don&#8217;t know. There is brown, there is green,<br \/>\nthere is yellow, there are all kinds of things. Some are more pretty, some less<br \/>\npretty, there are mixtures more or less happy; some photographs seem to have<br \/>\nbeen taken with the help of a microscope: infinitely small things which,<br \/>\nbecoming large, look extraordinary; things like that. And we can see very<br \/>\nclearly that there are superimpositions, but there are exceptional colour<br \/>\neffects. There we are. <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;text-indent:.25in;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-US\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>I don&#8217;t know when they will show this to you <\/span><span lang=\"EN-US\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>\u2013<\/span><span lang=\"EN-US\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'> one of these days,<br \/>\nunless they have been sent back already, I don&#8217;t know, I must find out. I know<br \/>\nI asked that they should be shown to you. Well, I find this better\u2026 oh, my<br \/>\ngoodness, happily there is no painter here\u2026 (<i>laughter<\/i>), better than modern painting. And this is photography.<br \/>\nFor modern painting has not yet been able to use colours with such transparency<br \/>\nand brilliance. Water-colour becomes something completely dull beside this. Oil<br \/>\ncolour is like mud. The stained glass could perhaps do something; but there,<br \/>\nyou see, it is the sun playing behind which is the great master.<\/span><span lang=\"EN-US\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>&nbsp;<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" align=\"center\" style='margin:0;text-align:center;line-height:150%'>\n<span lang=\"EN-US\" style='font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>Page \u2013<br \/>\n47<\/span><\/p>\n<div class=\"MsoNormal\" align=\"center\" style='text-align:center'><span lang=\"EN-US\"><\/p>\n<hr size=\"2\" width=\"100%\" align=\"center\">\n<p><\/span><\/div>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-US\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'><span>\u00a0<\/span>But that is more difficult. <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;text-indent:.25in;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-US\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>Stained glasses <\/span><span lang=\"EN-US\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>\u2013<\/span><span lang=\"EN-US\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'> I had thought of making them. You see, what I wanted<br \/>\nwere visions which I would have liked to give. I tried several times to<br \/>\nreproduce visions in painting <\/span><span lang=\"EN-US\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>\u2013<\/span><span lang=\"EN-US\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'> it becomes stupid. It becomes stupid because the<br \/>\nmeans of expression is bad. I had thought of stained glass, but you see,<br \/>\nstained glass <\/span><span lang=\"EN-US\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>\u2013 <\/span><span lang=\"EN-US\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>these<br \/>\nare bits of coloured glass and they have to be joined. So they are joined with<br \/>\na small leaden thread; but that&#8217;s horrible. All these little leaden threads are<br \/>\nlike that, it is frightful. <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;text-indent:.25in;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-US\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>But this is quite good, we shall be able to do something. <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;text-indent:.25in;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-US\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>There we are. <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;text-indent:.25in;line-height:150%'><i><span lang=\"EN-US\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>Au revoir<\/span><\/i><span lang=\"EN-US\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>, my children. <\/span><br \/>\n<span lang=\"EN-US\" style='font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'><br \/>\n&nbsp;<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" align=\"center\" style='margin:0;text-align:center;line-height:150%'>\n<span lang=\"EN-US\" style='font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>Page \u2013<br \/>\n48<\/span><\/p>\n<div class=\"MsoNormal\" align=\"center\" style='text-align:center'><span lang=\"EN-US\"><\/p>\n<p>\t<font size=\"2\" color=\"#0000FF\"><br \/>\n\t<span><\/font><\/b><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<\/table>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>9 February 1955 &nbsp; This talk is based upon Bases of Yoga, Chapter 4, \u00a0\u201cDesire \u2013 Food &#8211; Sex\u201d. &nbsp; Sweet Mother, here we have:&#8230;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[112],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-3877","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-07-questions-and-answers-volume-07","wpcat-112-id"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/worksofthemotherandsriaurobindo.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/3877","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/worksofthemotherandsriaurobindo.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/worksofthemotherandsriaurobindo.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/worksofthemotherandsriaurobindo.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/worksofthemotherandsriaurobindo.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=3877"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/worksofthemotherandsriaurobindo.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/3877\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/worksofthemotherandsriaurobindo.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=3877"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/worksofthemotherandsriaurobindo.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=3877"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/worksofthemotherandsriaurobindo.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=3877"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}