{"id":4045,"date":"2013-07-13T01:53:03","date_gmt":"2013-07-13T01:53:03","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/localhost\/?p=4045"},"modified":"2013-07-13T01:53:03","modified_gmt":"2013-07-13T01:53:03","slug":"09-2-june-1929-vol-03-questions-and-answers-volume-03","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/worksofthemotherandsriaurobindo.org\/index.php\/02-works-of-the-mother\/01-cwmce\/03-questions-and-answers-volume-03\/09-2-june-1929-vol-03-questions-and-answers-volume-03","title":{"rendered":"-09_2 June 1929.htm"},"content":{"rendered":"<table border=\"0\" cellpadding=\"6\" style=\"border-collapse: collapse\" width=\"100%\">\n<tr>\n<td>\n<div class=\"Section1\">\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><b><i><br \/>\n<span style='font-family: \"Times New Roman\"'><font size=\"3\">2 June<br \/>\n 1929<\/font><\/span><\/i><\/b><span style='font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'><b><i><font size=\"3\"><br \/>\n<\/font><br \/>\n<\/i><br \/>\n<\/b><br \/>\n<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'>\n<span style='font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'><font size=\"3\">&nbsp;<\/font><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><i><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>What<br \/>\nis the relation of human love to Divine love? Is the human an obstacle to the<br \/>\nDivine love? Or is not rather the capacity for human love an index to the<br \/>\ncapacity for Divine love? Have not great spiritual figures, such as Christ,<br \/>\nRamakrishna and Vivekananda, been remarkably loving and affectionate by nature?<br \/>\n<\/span><\/i><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>&nbsp;<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>Love is one of the great universal forces; it exists by itself and<br \/>\nits movement is free and independent of the objects in which and through which<br \/>\nit manifests. It manifests wherever it finds a possibility for manifestation,<br \/>\nwherever there is receptivity, wherever there is some opening for it. What you<br \/>\ncall love and think of as a personal or individual thing is only your capacity<br \/>\nto receive and manifest this universal force. But because it is universal, it<br \/>\nis not therefore an unconscious force; it is a supremely conscious Power.<br \/>\nConsciously it seeks for its manifestation and realisation upon earth;<br \/>\nconsciously it chooses its instruments, awakens to its vibrations those who are<br \/>\ncapable of an answer, endeavours to realise in them that which is its eternal<br \/>\naim, and when the instrument is not fit, drops it and turns to look for others.<br \/>\nMen think that they have suddenly fallen in love; they see their love come and<br \/>\ngrow and then it fades \u2013 or, it may be, endures a little longer in some who are<br \/>\nmore specially fitted for its more lasting movement. But their sense in this of<br \/>\na personal experience all their own was an illusion. It was a wave from the<br \/>\neverlasting sea of universal love. <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;text-indent:.25in;line-height:150%'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>Love is universal and eternal; it is<br \/>\nalways manifesting itself and always identical in its essence. And it is a<br \/>\nDivine Force; for the distortions we see in its apparent workings belong to its<br \/>\ninstruments. Love does not manifest in human beings alone; it is everywhere.<br \/>\nIts movement is there in plants, perhaps in the <\/span><br \/>\n<span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'><br \/>\n&nbsp;<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" align=\"center\" style='margin:0;text-align:center;line-height:150%'>\n<span style='font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>Page \u2013 69<\/span><\/p>\n<div class=\"MsoNormal\" align=\"center\" style='text-align:center'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:\"Courier New\";color:blue'><\/p>\n<hr size=\"2\" width=\"100%\" align=\"center\">\n<p><\/span><\/div>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>very stones; in the animals it is easy to detect its presence. All<br \/>\nthe deformations of this great and divine Power come from the obscurity and<br \/>\nignorance and selfishness of the limited instrument. Love, the eternal force,<br \/>\nhas no clinging, no desire, no hunger for possession, no self-regarding<br \/>\nattachment; it is, in its pure movement, the seeking for union of the self with<br \/>\nthe Divine, a seeking absolute and regardless of all other things. Love divine<br \/>\ngives itself and asks for nothing. What human beings have made of it, we do not<br \/>\nneed to say; they have turned it into an ugly and repulsive thing. And yet even<br \/>\nin human beings the first contact of love does bring down something of its<br \/>\npurer substance; they become capable for a moment of forgetting themselves, for<br \/>\na moment its divine touch awakens and magnifies all that is fine and beautiful.<br \/>\nBut afterwards there comes to the surface the human nature, full of its impure<br \/>\ndemands, asking for something in exchange, bartering what it gives, clamouring<br \/>\nfor its own inferior satisfactions, distorting and soiling what was divine. <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;text-indent:.25in;line-height:150%'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>To manifest the Divine love you must be<br \/>\ncapable of receiving the Divine love. For only those can manifest it who are by<br \/>\ntheir nature open to its native movement. The wider and clearer the opening in<br \/>\nthem, the more they manifest love divine in its original purity; the more it is<br \/>\nmixed with the lower human feelings, the greater is the deformation. One who is<br \/>\nnot open to love in its essence and in its truth cannot approach the Divine.<br \/>\nEven the seekers through knowledge come to a point beyond which if they want to<br \/>\ngo farther, they are bound to find themselves entering at the same time into<br \/>\nlove and to feel the two as one, knowledge the light of the divine union, love<br \/>\nthe very heart of knowledge. There is a place in the soul&#8217;s progress where they<br \/>\nmeet and you cannot distinguish one from the other. The division, the<br \/>\ndistinction between the two that you make in the beginning are a creation of the<br \/>\nmind: once you rise to a higher level, they disappear. <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;text-indent:.25in;line-height:150%'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>Among those who have come into this world<br \/>\nseeking to reveal the Divine here and transform earthly life, there are some <\/span><br \/>\n<span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'><br \/>\n&nbsp;<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" align=\"center\" style='margin:0;text-align:center;line-height:150%'>\n<span style='font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>Page \u2013 70<\/span><\/p>\n<div class=\"MsoNormal\" align=\"center\" style='text-align:center'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:\"Courier New\";color:blue'><\/p>\n<hr size=\"2\" width=\"100%\" align=\"center\">\n<p><\/span><\/div>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>who have manifested the Divine love in a greater fullness. In some<br \/>\nthe purity of the manifestation is so great that they are misunderstood by the<br \/>\nwhole of humanity and are even accused of being hard and unloving, although the<br \/>\nDivine love is there. But it is in them divine and not human in its form as in<br \/>\nits substance. For when man speaks of love, he associates it with an emotional<br \/>\nand sentimental weakness. But the divine intensity of self-forgetfulness, the<br \/>\ncapacity of throwing oneself out entirely, making no restriction and no<br \/>\nreservation, as a gift, asking nothing in exchange, this is little known to<br \/>\nhuman beings. And when it is there unmixed with weak and sentimental emotions,<br \/>\nthey find it hard and cold; they cannot recognise in it the very highest and<br \/>\nintensest power of love. <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;text-indent:.25in;line-height:150%'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>The manifestation of the love of the Divine<br \/>\nin the world was the great holocaust, the supreme self-giving. The Perfect<br \/>\nConsciousness accepted to be merged and absorbed into the unconsciousness of<br \/>\nmatter, so that consciousness might be awakened in the depths of its obscurity<br \/>\nand little by little a Divine Power might rise in it and make the whole of this<br \/>\nmanifested universe a highest expression of the Divine Consciousness and the<br \/>\nDivine love. This was the supreme love, to accept the loss of the perfect<br \/>\ncondition of supreme divinity, its absolute consciousness, its infinite<br \/>\nknowledge, to unite with unconsciousness, to dwell in the world with ignorance<br \/>\nand darkness. And yet none perhaps would call it love; for it does not clothe<br \/>\nitself in a superficial sentiment, it makes no demand in exchange for what it<br \/>\nhas done, no show of its sacrifice. The force of love in the world is trying to<br \/>\nfind consciousnesses that are capable of receiving this divine movement in its<br \/>\npurity and expressing it. This race of all beings towards love, this<br \/>\nirresistible push and seeking out in the world&#8217;s heart and in all hearts, is<br \/>\nthe impulse given by a Divine love behind the human longing and seeking. It<br \/>\ntouches millions of instruments, trying always, always failing; but this<br \/>\nconstant touch prepares these instruments and suddenly one day there will awake<br \/>\nin them the capacity of self-giving, the capacity of loving.<span>\u00a0 <\/span><\/span><br \/>\n<span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'><br \/>\n&nbsp;<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" align=\"center\" style='margin:0;text-align:center;line-height:150%'>\n<span style='font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>Page \u2013 71<\/span><\/p>\n<div class=\"MsoNormal\" align=\"center\" style='text-align:center'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:\"Courier New\";color:blue'><\/p>\n<hr size=\"2\" width=\"100%\" align=\"center\">\n<p><\/span><\/div>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;text-indent:.25in;line-height:150%'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>The movement of love is not limited to<br \/>\nhuman beings and it is perhaps less distorted in other worlds than in the<br \/>\nhuman. Look at the flowers and trees. When the sun sets and all becomes silent,<br \/>\nsit down for a moment and put yourself into communion with Nature: you will<br \/>\nfeel rising from the earth, from below the roots of the trees and mounting<br \/>\nupward and coursing through their fibres up to the highest outstretching<br \/>\nbranches, the aspiration of an intense love and longing, \u2013 a longing for<br \/>\nsomething that brings light and gives happiness, for the light that is gone and<br \/>\nthey wish to have back again. There is a yearning so pure and intense that if you<br \/>\ncan feel the movement in the trees, your own being too will go up in an ardent<br \/>\nprayer for the peace and light and love that are unmanifested here. Once you<br \/>\nhave come in contact with this large, pure and true Divine love, if you have<br \/>\nfelt it even for a short time and in its smallest form, you will realise what<br \/>\nan abject thing human desire has made of it. It has become in human nature<br \/>\nsomething low, brutal, selfish, violent, ugly, or else it is something weak and<br \/>\nsentimental, made up of the pettiest feeling, brittle, superficial, exacting.<br \/>\nAnd this baseness and brutality or this self-regarding weakness they call love!<br \/>\n<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>&nbsp;<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><i><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>Is<br \/>\nour vital being to take part in the Divine love? If it does, what is the right<br \/>\nand correct form of participation it should take? <\/span><\/i><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>&nbsp;<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>Where is the manifestation of Divine love intended to stop? Is it<br \/>\nto be confined to some unreal or immaterial region? Divine love plunges its<br \/>\nmanifestation upon earth down into the most material matter. It does not indeed<br \/>\nfind itself in the selfish distortions of the human consciousness; but the<br \/>\nvital in itself is as important an element in Divine love as it is in the whole<br \/>\nof the manifested universe. There is no possibility of movement and progress<br \/>\nwithout the mediation of the vital; but because this Power of Nature has been<br \/>\nso badly distorted, some prefer to<br \/>\n&nbsp;<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" align=\"center\" style='margin:0;text-align:center;line-height:150%'>\n<span style='font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>Page \u2013 72<\/span><\/p>\n<div class=\"MsoPlainText\" align=\"center\" style='text-align:center'><span style='color:blue'><\/p>\n<hr size=\"2\" width=\"100%\" align=\"center\">\n<p><\/span><\/div>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>believe that it has to be pulled out altogether and thrown away.<br \/>\nBut it is only through the vital that matter can be touched by the transforming<br \/>\npower of the Spirit. If the vital is not there to infuse its dynamism and<br \/>\nliving force, matter will remain dead; for the higher parts of the being will<br \/>\nnot come into contact with earth, will not be concretised in life, and they<br \/>\nwill depart unsatisfied and disappear. <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;text-indent:.25in;line-height:150%'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>The Divine love of which I speak is a Love<br \/>\nthat manifests here upon this physical earth, in matter, but it must be pure of<br \/>\nits human distortions, if it is to incarnate. The vital is an indispensable<br \/>\nagent in this as in all manifestation. But as has happened always, the adverse<br \/>\npowers have put their hold on this most precious thing. It is the energy of the<br \/>\nvital that enters into dull and insensitive matter and makes it responsive and<br \/>\nalive. But the adverse forces have distorted it; they have turned it into a<br \/>\nfield of violence and selfishness and desire and every kind of ugliness and<br \/>\nprevented it from taking part in the divine work. The one thing to be done is<br \/>\nto change it, not to suppress its movement or destroy it. For without it no<br \/>\nintensity is possible anywhere. The vital is in its very nature that in us<br \/>\nwhich can give itself away. Just because it is that which has always the<br \/>\nimpulse and the strength to take, it is also that which is capable of giving<br \/>\nitself to the utmost; because it knows how to possess, it knows also how to<br \/>\nabandon itself without reserve. The true vital movement is the most beautiful<br \/>\nand magnificent of movements; but it has been twisted and turned into the most<br \/>\nugly, the most distorted, the most repulsive. Wherever into a human story of<br \/>\nlove, there has entered even an atom of pure love and it has been allowed to<br \/>\nmanifest without too much distortion, we find a true and beautiful thing. And<br \/>\nif the movement does not last, it is because it is not conscious of its own aim<br \/>\nand seeking; it has not the knowledge that it is not the union of one being<br \/>\nwith another that it is seeking after but the union of all beings with the<br \/>\nDivine. <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;text-indent:.25in;line-height:150%'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>Love is a supreme force which the Eternal<br \/>\nConsciousness <\/span><br \/>\n<span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'><br \/>\n&nbsp;<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" align=\"center\" style='margin:0;text-align:center;line-height:150%'>\n<span style='font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>Page \u2013 73<\/span><\/p>\n<hr>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>sent down from itself into an obscure and darkened world that it<br \/>\nmight bring back that world and its beings to the Divine. The material world in<br \/>\nits darkness and ignorance had forgotten the Divine. Love came into the<br \/>\ndarkness; it awakened all that lay there asleep; it whispered, opening the ears<br \/>\nthat were sealed, \u201cThere is something that is worth waking to, worth living<br \/>\nfor, and it is love!\u201d And with the awakening to love there entered into the<br \/>\nworld the possibility of coming back to the Divine. The creation moves upward<br \/>\nthrough love towards the Divine and in answer there leans downward to meet the<br \/>\ncreation the Divine Love and Grace. Love cannot exist in its pure beauty, love<br \/>\ncannot put on its native power and intense joy of fullness until there is this<br \/>\ninterchange, this fusion between the earth and the Supreme, this movement of<br \/>\nLove from the Divine to the creation and from the creation to the Divine. This<br \/>\nworld was a world of dead matter, till Divine love descended into it and<br \/>\nawakened it to life. Ever since it has gone in search of this divine source of<br \/>\nlife, but it has taken in its search every kind of wrong turn and mistaken way,<br \/>\nit has wandered hither and thither in the dark. The mass of this creation has<br \/>\nmoved on its road like the blind seeking for the unknown, seeking but ignorant<br \/>\nof what it sought. The maximum it has reached is what seems to human beings<br \/>\nlove in its highest form, its purest and most disinterested kind, like the love<br \/>\nof the mother for the child. This human movement of love is secretly seeking<br \/>\nfor something else than what it has yet found; but it does not know where to find<br \/>\nit, it does not even know what it is. The moment man&#8217;s consciousness awakens to<br \/>\nthe Divine love, pure, independent of all manifestation in human forms, he<br \/>\nknows for what his heart has all the time been truly longing. That is the<br \/>\nbeginning of the Soul&#8217;s aspiration, that brings the awakening of the<br \/>\nconsciousness and its yearning for union with the Divine. All the forms that<br \/>\nare of the ignorance, all the deformations it has imposed must from that moment<br \/>\nfade and disappear and give place to one single movement of the creation<br \/>\nanswering to the Divine love by its<br \/>\n&nbsp;<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" align=\"center\" style='margin:0;text-align:center;line-height:150%'>\n<span style='font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>Page \u2013 74<\/span><\/p>\n<div class=\"MsoPlainText\" align=\"center\" style='text-align:center'><span style='color:blue'><\/p>\n<hr size=\"2\" width=\"100%\" align=\"center\">\n<p><\/span><\/div>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>love for the Divine. Once the creation is conscious, awakened,<br \/>\nopened to love for the Divine, the Divine love pours itself without limit back<br \/>\ninto the creation. The circle of the movement turns back upon itself and the<br \/>\nends meet; there is the joining of the extremes, supreme Spirit and manifesting<br \/>\nMatter, and their divine union becomes constant and complete. <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;text-indent:.25in;line-height:150%'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>Great beings have taken birth in this<br \/>\nworld who came to bring down here something of the sovereign purity and power<br \/>\nof Divine love. The Divine love has thrown itself into a personal form in them<br \/>\nthat its realisation upon earth may be at once more easy and more perfect.<br \/>\nDivine love, when manifested in a personal being, is easier to realise; it is<br \/>\nmore difficult when it is unmanifested or impersonal in its movement. A human<br \/>\nbeing, awakened by this personal touch, with this personal intensity, to the<br \/>\nconsciousness of the Divine love, will find his work and change made more easy;<br \/>\nthe union for which he seeks becomes more natural and close. And the union, the<br \/>\nrealisation will become for him, too, more full, more perfect; for the wide<br \/>\nuniformity of a universal and impersonal Love will be lit up and vivified with<br \/>\nthe colour and beauty of all possible relations with the Divine.<span>\u00a0 <\/span><\/span><br \/>\n<span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'><br \/>\n&nbsp;<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" align=\"center\" style='margin:0;text-align:center;line-height:150%'>\n<span style='font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>Page \u2013 75<\/span><\/p>\n<div class=\"MsoNormal\" align=\"center\" style='text-align:center'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:\"Courier New\";color:blue'><\/p>\n<p>\t<\/font><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<\/table>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>2 June 1929 &nbsp; What is the relation of human love to Divine love? Is the human an obstacle to the Divine love? 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