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\n
\n29
\n September 1971<\/font><\/span><\/b> <\/span><\/font> <\/b><\/p>\n

 <\/span><\/p>\n

Durga Puja: Victory Day (Vijaya Dashami)
\n<\/font> <\/span><\/p>\n

 <\/span><\/p>\n

It was clear, very clear today, a strong Pressure to say: Victory,
\nit is Harmony; Victory, it is the Divine; and for the body, Victory is good
\nhealth. Each and every ailment, each and every illness is a falsehood. It came
\nthis morning. And it was so clear<\/i>. It
\nwas convincing. <\/span><\/p>\n

So, it is all right. <\/span><\/p>\n

It is as though by the Pressure all Falsehood had come out. The
\nmost unexpected things \u2013 in people, in objects, in circumstances. And it is
\ntruly… no imagination can equal that. It is unbelievable. <\/span><\/p>\n

 <\/span><\/p>\n

But it is a good sign,
\nisn’t it<\/span><\/i>? <\/span><\/p>\n

 <\/span><\/p>\n

Oh, yes! Oh,
\nyes!… It is as though there had been a poison, yes, and by pressing, the
\npoison came out to disappear, and it is coming out!… <\/span><\/p>\n

Later on, one will be able to speak of it. It is truly
\ninteresting, truly. Yes, it is a good sign, a very good sign. <\/span><\/p>\n

 <\/span><\/p>\n

Yes, it means that all
\nthese forces that for thousands of years lay hidden below<\/span><\/i>… <\/span> <\/span><\/p>\n

Yes.  <\/span><\/p>\n

\u2026have lost their refuge.
\n<\/span><\/i><\/p>\n

 <\/span><\/i><\/p>\n

Yes, it is
\nthat. It is so. <\/span><\/p>\n

We shall see. It is not time yet to speak of it. Later on.
\nUnbelievable, my child ! <\/span><\/p>\n

But a Power ! Power, oh !… (Mother
\nshuts her eyes and smiles.<\/i>)<\/span><\/p>\n

\n <\/span>Page – 272<\/span><\/p>\n

<\/p>\n
\n

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\n
\n16
\n October 1971<\/font><\/a><\/span><\/b> <\/font> <\/a> <\/span> <\/b><\/p>\n

 <\/span><\/p>\n

How to master physical
\nsuffering? <\/span><\/i><\/p>\n

 <\/span><\/p>\n

It is just
\nthe experiences I am having now. <\/span><\/p>\n

The body is in a state in which it sees that everything depends
\nsimply on how it is linked with the Divine \u2013 upon the state of its receptive
\nsurrender. I have had the experience even during these last days. The same
\nthing which is the cause of a \u2013 more than a discomfort \u2013 a suffering, an almost
\nunbearable ailment, with just a change in the receptivity of the body towards
\nthe Divine, disappears all of a sudden \u2013 and can even move to a blissful state.
\nI have had the experience several times. For me it is only a question of
\nsincerity become intense \u2013 in the consciousness that everything is the action
\nof the Divine and that his action moves towards the quickest possible
\nrealisation, in the given conditions. <\/span><\/p>\n

I might say: the cells of the body must learn to seek their
\nsupport only in the Divine, until the moment when they are able to feel that
\nthey are the expression of the Divine. <\/span><\/p>\n

This is indeed the experience at present. The experience of
\nchanging the effect of things, that I have; but it is not mentalised, so I
\ncannot tell it in words. But truly, the cells have begun to feel, first of all
\nthat they are wholly ruled by the Divine (this is translated by: \u201cWhat Thou
\nwillest, what Thou willest\u201d), this state, and then a kind of receptivity which
\nis (how to say it?) passive \u2013 not immobile, it is… probably one might say a passive<\/i> receptivity (Mother opens her hands with a smile<\/i>),
\nbut I do not know how to explain. <\/span><\/p>\n

All words are false, but one might say: \u201cThou alone art\u201d \u2013 yes,
\nthe cells feel: \u201cThou alone art.” Yes, it is like that. But all this, it is as
\nthough the thing got hardened \u2013 words harden the experience. There is a kind of
\nplasticity or suppleness (a <\/span>trustful,
\nvery trustful suppleness): \u201cWhat Thou willest, what Thou willest.” <\/span><\/p>\n

\n Page – 273<\/span><\/p>\n

<\/p>\n
\n

<\/span><\/div>\n

 (Silence<\/i>)<\/span><\/p>\n

 <\/span><\/p>\n

In a certain attitude (but it is difficult to explain or define),
\nin a certain attitude all becomes divine. And there, what is wonderful is that
\nwhen one has the experience of everything becoming divine, all that is contrary
\ndisappears quite naturally, quickly or slowly, instantly or little by little,
\ndepending on things. <\/span><\/p>\n

That is indeed wonderful. That is to say, to become conscious that
\nall is divine is the best way of making all divine \u2013 annulling all oppositions.<\/span><\/p>\n

 <\/span>Page – 274<\/span><\/p>\n

<\/p>\n
\n

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\n
\n30
\n October 1971<\/font><\/a><\/span><\/b> <\/font> <\/a> <\/span> <\/b><\/p>\n

 <\/span><\/p>\n

I have as though the feeling that I know the why of creation. <\/span><\/p>\n

It was to realise the phenomenon of a consciousness which would
\nhave at the same time the individual consciousness \u2013 the individual
\nconsciousness that we naturally have \u2013 and the consciousness of the whole, the
\nconsciousness (how to say it?)… one might say \u201cglobal\u201d. But the two
\nconsciousnesses unite in something… which we have yet to find. <\/span><\/p>\n

A consciousness at the same time individual and total. And all
\nthis labour is for the sake of uniting the two consciousnesses into one
\nconsciousness which is that at the same time<\/span><\/i>. And that is the next
\nrealisation. <\/span><\/p>\n

 <\/span><\/p>\n

(Silence<\/i>)<\/span><\/p>\n

 <\/span><\/p>\n

For us it seems to take time (it is translated for us by time), as
\nthough it is \u201cbeing done\u201d, as though something is \u201cto be done\u201d. But that is the
\nillusion in which we are. Because we have not… crossed over to the other
\nside. <\/span><\/p>\n

But the individual consciousness is not at all a falsehood; it
\nmust be linked with the consciousness of the whole in such a way that it makes
\nanother consciousness which for the moment we do not yet possess. Not that it
\nmust abolish the other, you understand? There has to be an adjustment, a
\ndifferent aspect, I do not know… in which the two are manifested
\nsimultaneously. <\/span><\/p>\n

For example, at this moment there is a whole series of experiences
\nabout the power of creation that is latent in the individual consciousness,
\nthat is to say, the capacity for knowing things \u2013 knowing, or what we call
\n\u201cwilling\u201d \u2013 in the individual consciousness before they have come into being.
\nWe say \u201cwe will that\u201d, but it is an intermediary,\u00b9 it is the consciousness
\nwhich is on the way towards something where it is at the same <\/span><\/p>\n

 <\/span><\/p>\n


\n\u00b9
\nMother means an intermediary consciousness.<\/font><\/span><\/p>\n

\n Page – 275<\/span><\/p>\n

<\/p>\n
\n

<\/span><\/div>\n

 time the
\nvision of what has to be and the capacity to realise it. <\/span><\/p>\n

That is the next step. Afterwards … <\/span><\/p>\n

So, for us, that is to say, for the individual consciousness, the
\nthing is translated by time, the time needed for… I do not know how to say
\nit. <\/span><\/p>\n

I feel it like that: you are not this, you are not yet that, and
\nyou must not leave this to become that \u2013 the two must become one and form
\nsomething new. <\/span><\/p>\n

And that explains everything \u2013 everything, everything, everything.
\nAnd that annuls nothing. <\/span><\/p>\n

It is a hundred times more wonderful than anything we can imagine.
\n<\/span><\/p>\n

The question is to know whether that (Mother’s body<\/i>) will be able to follow…. In order to follow, not
\nonly must it endure but acquire a new form, a new life. That, I do not know. In
\nany case, it does not matter \u2013 the consciousness is clear and the consciousness
\nis not subject to that (Mother points to
\nher body<\/i>). If that can be made use of, so much the better, otherwise…
\nThere are things still to be found. <\/span><\/p>\n

Yes, things to be found! The old routine is ended. It is ended. <\/span><\/p>\n

What is to be found is the plasticity of Matter, so that Matter is
\nable to progress always. There you are. <\/span><\/p>\n

How long will it take? I do not know. How much experience is
\nneeded? I do not know. But now the way is clear. <\/span><\/p>\n

The way is clear.<\/span><\/p>\n

 <\/span>Page – 276<\/span><\/p>\n

<\/p>\n
\n

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\n
\n17
\n November 1971<\/font><\/a><\/span><\/b> <\/font> <\/a> <\/span> <\/b><\/p>\n

 <\/span><\/p>\n

Very strange. The whole view of things has changed…. And then,
\nforgotten. <\/span><\/p>\n

So totally changed… <\/span><\/p>\n

 <\/span><\/p>\n

But in this change of
\nview, what makes the difference? <\/span><\/i><\/p>\n

 <\/span><\/p>\n

(After a long smiling silence<\/i>) It is as if
\nthe consciousness was not in the same position with regard to things \u2013 I do not
\nknow how to say it. So they appear altogether different.  <\/span><\/p>\n

(Silence<\/i>)<\/span><\/p>\n

 <\/span><\/p>\n

I do not know how to explain…. The ordinary human consciousness,
\neven when it has the widest ideas, is always at the centre, and things are like
\nthis (gesture of convergence from all
\nsides, like a spider’s web<\/i>). Things exist (all that one says only
\ndiminishes), they exist in relation to a centre. Whereas (gesture indicating a multitude of scattered points<\/i>). I believe this
\nis how it is best expressed: in the ordinary human consciousness one is at a
\npoint and all things exist in their relation to this point of consciousness (same gesture of a spider’s web<\/i>). And
\nnow, the point exists no more, so things exist in themselves. <\/span><\/p>\n

This is the most exact thing to say. It is not that but… <\/span><\/p>\n

So, my consciousness is in<\/i>
\nthe things \u2013 it is not \u201csomething\u201d \u2013 which is receiving, it is much better than
\nthat, but I do not know how to say it. <\/span><\/p>\n

It is better than that because it is not merely \u201cin the things\u201d,
\nit is in \u201csomething\u201d which is in the things and which… makes them move. <\/span><\/p>\n

I could say it in words. I could say: \u201cIt is no longer one being
\namong others, it is,\u201d I could say, \u201cit is the Divine in<\/span><\/p>\n

\n Page – 277<\/span><\/p>\n

<\/p>\n
\n

<\/span><\/div>\n

\u00a0<\/span>all things.\u201d But it is not like this that I
\nsense it… It is \u201cthat which moves things or which is conscious in things\u201d. <\/span><\/p>\n

Evidently it is a question of consciousness, but not a
\nconsciousness as human beings have ordinarily. It is the quality of
\nconsciousness that has changed.<\/span><\/p>\n

\n Page – 278<\/span><\/p>\n

<\/p>\n
\n

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\n
\n18
\n December 1971<\/a><\/font><\/span><\/b> <\/span><\/font> <\/b><\/p>\n

 <\/span><\/p>\n

I heard something written by Sri Aurobindo, saying that for the
\nSupramental to manifest upon earth the physical mind must receive it and
\nmanifest it \u2013 and it is just the physical mind, that is to say, the body-mind,
\nthe only thing that remains in me now. And then, the reason why only this part
\nhas remained became quite clear to me. It is on the way to being converted in a
\nvery rapid and interesting manner. This physical mind is being developed under
\nthe supramental Influence. And it is just what Sri Aurobindo has written, that
\nthis is indispensable so that the Supramental can manifest itself permanently
\nupon earth. <\/span><\/p>\n

So, it is going on well… but it is not easy (Mother laughs<\/i>). <\/span><\/p>\n

 <\/span><\/p>\n

Yes, this is just the problem
\nwhich I put to myself; because I have seen one thing, that this transformation
\nis not possible unless there is a sort of radical change of position in the
\nconsciousness or a change of view. <\/span><\/i> <\/span><\/i><\/p>\n

Yes.  <\/span><\/p>\n

Unless one sees things
\nand beings in another way.<\/span><\/i> <\/span> <\/span><\/p>\n

Yes, yes.  <\/span><\/p>\n

But then I ask myself,
\nhow is this possible<\/span><\/i>? <\/span><\/p>\n

 <\/span><\/p>\n

It is
\npossible in this way. <\/span><\/p>\n

 <\/span><\/p>\n

But it must be something
\nvery radical<\/span><\/i>. <\/span><\/p>\n

 <\/span><\/p>\n

But it is
\nradical, my child ! You can’t imagine, it is like… I <\/span><\/p>\n

\n Page – 279<\/span><\/p>\n

<\/p>\n
\n

<\/span><\/div>\n

 could say
\ntruly that I have become another person. There is only this (Mother touches the outer form of her body<\/i>)
\nwhich remains as it was…. To what extent will it be able to change? Sri
\nAurobindo has said that if the physical mind were transformed, the
\ntransformation of the body would follow quite
\nnaturally<\/i>. We shall see. <\/span><\/p>\n

 <\/span><\/p>\n

But could you give me a
\nkey or a lever to bring about this radical change? <\/span><\/i><\/p>\n

 <\/span><\/p>\n

Ah ! I do
\nnot know, because for me everything has simply been taken away from me \u2013 the
\nmind has left completely. If you like, in appearance I became stupid, I knew
\nnothing. And it is the physical mind that developed little by little, through
\nsuccessive revelations. For me, I do not know, the work has been done for me \u2013
\nI did nothing. It has been done in a quite radical way. <\/span><\/p>\n

It could be done because I was very<\/i>
\nconscious of my psychic (the psychic being which has been formed through all
\nthe lives), I was very conscious and it has remained; it has remained and it,
\nprecisely, has allowed me to have dealings with men without this making any
\ndifference, due to this psychic presence. That is why there has been so little
\napparent change. So I can say only what I know, and I say this: the psychic
\nmust remain there dominating the whole being \u2013 the whole bodily being \u2013 and
\nguiding the life; then the mental has time to transform itself. My own mind
\nproper has simply been sent away. <\/span><\/p>\n

Well, the transformation of the body-mind was indispensable
\nbecause I had only that, nothing more, do you understand?… Very few people
\nwould accept that (Mother laughs<\/i>). As
\nfor me, it has been done without asking my opinion. The work was very easy. <\/span><\/p>\n

That is exactly what has happened. <\/span><\/p>\n

 <\/span><\/p>\n

I would like to have
\nsomething radical<\/span><\/i>… <\/span><\/p>\n

\n Page – 280<\/span><\/p>\n

<\/p>\n
\n

<\/span><\/div>\n

 (Mother laughs<\/i>) But would you accept what
\nhas happened to me, that is to say, the individual, the person, feeling
\nabsolutely imbecile? <\/span><\/p>\n

 <\/span><\/p>\n

I am ready. <\/span><\/i><\/p>\n

 <\/span><\/p>\n

Would that
\nnot make you despair? <\/span><\/p>\n

 <\/span><\/p>\n

No, no \u2013 no. <\/span><\/i><\/p>\n

 <\/span><\/p>\n

Well, it is
\na thing that settles itself, so to say, in a permanent way: the nothingness of
\nthe person, its absolute nothingness, incapacity. And then you are … you are
\nat ease, you are quite naturally like a child; you say to the Divine: \u201cDo
\neverything for me\u201d (there is nothing else to do, there is nothing else one can
\ndo!), then everything becomes all right immediately \u2013 immediately. <\/span><\/p>\n

Well, the body has given itself entirely, it had even said to the
\nDivine: \u201cI pray to you to make me will for my dissolution if I am to die\u201d, so
\nthat even there I do not resist if it is necessary for the body to die \u2013 even
\nto will for my dissolution. That is its attitude, it was like that (gesture
\nwith open hands). And instead of that there came a sort of … (I could
\ntranslate it by words, but they were not words): \u201cIf you accept suffering and
\nailments, transformation is better than dissolution.\u201d And so when there is
\nailment, it accepts. <\/span><\/p>\n

It is not that, what I say is… it is not really that, but it is
\nsomething difficult to explain. It is really a new attitude and a new
\nsensation. I am not able to say it.<\/span><\/p>\n

And evidently, for each one it must be different…. For me it has
\nbeen very radical \u2013 I had no choice, you understand: it was like that, it is
\nlike that. There you are. <\/span><\/p>\n

But one must really… What has made the thing easy is that the
\npsychic consciousness was wholly in front and governed the life. So it
\ncontinued quietly without being disturbed. <\/span><\/p>\n

 <\/span>Page – 281<\/span><\/p>\n

<\/p>\n
\n

<\/span><\/div>\n

\n <\/span>Likewise for seeing and hearing, I came to know that it was not a
\nphysical decline, it was simply this: I understand and hear people only when they
\nthink clearly what they say. And I see only that which is … which expresses
\nthe inner life, otherwise it is … hazy or veiled; and it is not that the eyes
\ndo not see, it is \u201csomething\u201d, it is some other thing \u2013 everything is new. <\/span> <\/span><\/p>\n

(Silence<\/i>)<\/span><\/p>\n

 <\/span><\/p>\n

It is true, the body must have much goodwill \u2013 mine happens to
\nhave goodwill. And it is not a mental goodwill, it is truly a bodily goodwill.
\nIt accepts all inconveniences…. But it is the attitude that is important, not
\nthe consequences (I am sure that the inconveniences are not indispensable); it
\nis the attitude that is important. Well, it must be like this (gesture of open hands<\/i>). In fact I have
\nfound that in the majority of cases surrender to the Divine does not
\nnecessarily mean trust in the Divine \u2013 because you surrender to the Divine, you
\nsay, \u201cEven if you make me suffer, I surrender myself\u201d, but it is an absolute
\nlack of trust! Yes, it is really amusing, surrender does not imply trust; trust
\nis something else, it is… a kind of knowledge \u2013 an \u201cunshakable\u201d knowledge
\nwhich nothing can disturb \u2013 that it is we who change into difficulties,
\nsufferings and miseries what, in the Divine Consciousness, is… perfect Peace.
\nIt is we who bring about this little transformation. <\/span><\/p>\n

And extraordinary examples have come… hours would be needed to
\nexplain. <\/span><\/p>\n

Indeed it is the consciousness that must change, even the
\nconsciousness of the cells, you understand? … That is a radical change. <\/span><\/p>\n

And we have no words to express that, because that does not exist
\nupon earth \u2013 it was latent but it was not manifested. All words are … beside
\nthe mark; it is not quite that. <\/span> <\/span><\/p>\n

(Silence<\/i>)<\/span><\/p>\n

\n Page – 282<\/span><\/p>\n

<\/p>\n
\n

<\/span><\/div>\n

\n <\/span>If you like, one could say that at every minute one has the
\nfeeling that one may live or one may die (gesture
\nof a slight tilt to one side or the other<\/i>) or one may live eternally. At
\nevery minute it is like that. And the difference (between the two sides) is so
\nimperceptible that one cannot say: do this and you will be on this side, do
\nthat and you will be on the other side. This is not possible. It is a way of
\nbeing that is almost indescribable.\u00b9 <\/span> <\/span><\/p>\n

 <\/span><\/p>\n

\u00b9<\/span> <\/span><\/font>On <\/font> <\/span>15
\n January 1972<\/span><\/font>, at the time of publishing this
\nconversation, Mother added: <\/font> <\/span><\/p>\n


\n\u201cThat
\nexperience is becoming more and more constant \u2013 at one time it is this, at
\nanother it is that and it has become very acute. At the same time the knowledge
\n(Mother raises her index finger<\/i>):
\n\u2018This is the moment of winning the Victory\u2019, which comes from the psychic and
\nthrough it from above. … \u2018Hold fast, it is the moment of winning the
\nVictory.\u2019 \u201d<\/font><\/span><\/p>\n

 <\/span>Page – 283<\/span><\/p>\n

<\/p>\n
\n

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\n
\n22
\n December 1971<\/font><\/a><\/span><\/b> <\/font> <\/a> <\/span> <\/b><\/p>\n

 <\/span><\/p>\n

A letter of Sri Aurobindo was read to me in which he said that for
\nthe Supramental to be fixed here (he had seen that the Supramental came into
\nhim and then it withdrew, and then it came back again and again withdrew \u2013 it
\nwas not stable); for it to become stable it must enter and settle itself in the
\nphysical mind.\u00b9 It is this work which is being done in me for months now: the
\nmind has been withdrawn and the physical mind has taken its place, and
\nprecisely, for some time, I have noticed that it was … (I was telling you
\nthat it was seeing everything in a different way, that its relation with things
\nwas different), I have noticed that this physical mind, the mind that is in the
\nbody, became wide, it had a global view of things, and its entire way of seeing
\nwas absolutely different. I have seen, it is this: the Supramental is at work
\nthere. I am passing through extraordinary hours. <\/span><\/p>\n

What is happening is that it is only things that resist \u2013 one
\nfeels (I have already told you) that it is as though at every moment (and it is
\nbecoming stronger and stronger), at every moment: Do you want life, do you want
\ndeath; do you want life, do you want death? … And it is like that. And then,
\nlife, it is union with the Supreme, and the consciousness, an altogether<\/i> new consciousness comes. And
\nit is this way, it is that  <\/span><\/p>\n

 <\/span><\/p>\n

\n\u00b9 <\/font> <\/span>Mother may be referring to a passage like the following:
\n<\/font> <\/span><\/p>\n


\n\u201cThere
\nis too an obscure mind of the body, of the very cells, molecules, corpuscles.
\nHaeckel, the German materialist, spoke somewhere of the will in the atom, and
\nrecent science, dealing with the incalculable individual variation in the
\nactivity of the electrons, comes near to perceiving that this is not a figure
\nbut the shadow thrown by a secret reality. This body-mind is a very tangible
\ntruth; owing to its obscurity and mechanical clinging to past movements and
\nfacile oblivion and rejection of the new, we find in it one of the chief
\nobstacles to permeation by the supermind Force and the transformation of the
\nfunctioning of the body. On the other hand, once effectively converted, it will
\nbe one of the most precious instruments for the stabilisation of the
\nsupramental Light and Force in material Nature.\u201d<\/font><\/span><\/p>\n


\n(Letters
\non Yoga, Cent. Vol. 22, p. 340)<\/font><\/span><\/p>\n

 <\/span>Page – 284<\/span><\/p>\n

<\/p>\n
\n

<\/span><\/div>\n

\n <\/span>way (Mother makes a gesture of tilting from one
\nside to the other<\/i>). But yesterday or the day before, I do not know, all of
\na sudden the body said: No! It is finished \u2013 I want life, I want nothing else.
\nAnd since then, things are getting better. <\/span><\/p>\n

Oh! Volumes would be needed to narrate what is happening…. It
\nis… extraordinarily interesting and altogether new. New altogether. <\/span><\/p>\n

 <\/span><\/p>\n

(Mother goes deep within.)<\/span><\/p>\n

 <\/span><\/p>\n

Because of physical death, the subconscient is a defeatist. Well,
\nthe subconscient has the feeling that whatever be the progress, whatever the
\neffort, it will always end by that, because till today it has always ended that
\nway. So the work that is being done is to try to introduce faith, the certitude
\nof transformation, into the subconscient. And that… it is a struggle of every
\nmoment.<\/span><\/p>\n

 <\/span>Page – 285<\/span><\/p>\n

<\/p>\n
\n

<\/span><\/div>\n


\n
\n25
\n December 1971<\/font><\/a><\/span><\/b> <\/font> <\/a> <\/span> <\/b><\/p>\n

 <\/span><\/p>\n

It is the festival of the Light – Noel is the festival of the
\nreturning Light…. It is very much older than Christianity. <\/span><\/p>\n

And next Saturday is the first of January. <\/span><\/p>\n

 <\/span><\/p>\n

I hope 1972 is going to be
\nbetter! <\/span><\/i><\/p>\n

 <\/span><\/p>\n

(Mother shakes her head<\/i>) I am more and
\nmore convinced that we receive things and react in a way that creates
\ndifficulties \u2013 I am more and more convinced of it. Because I have experiences hardly
\nagreeable, physically, materially, and then everything changes according to
\nwhether one pays attention to it or not, according to an attitude like this (gesture turned to oneself<\/i>) in which one
\nlooks at oneself living, or else an attitude in which one is (gesture of wideness<\/i>) in all things, in
\nmovement, in life, and an attitude in which one gives importance only to the
\nDivine; if one is able to be like this all the time, there is no difficulty \u2013
\nand things remain the same. This is the experience: the thing in itself is of a
\ncertain kind, and it is our reaction with respect to the thing which differs.
\nThe experience is more and more conclusive. There are three categories: our
\nattitude towards things, the things in themselves (these two always bring difficulties),
\nand there is a third category in which everything, everything exists in
\nrelation to the Divine, in the Consciousness of the Divine \u2013 everything goes on
\nwonderfully! Easy! And I speak of material things, of the material physical
\nlife (morally speaking it has long been known to be like that), but things
\nmaterial, that is to say, the small inconveniences of the body, its reactions,
\nhaving pain or not, circumstances going bad, not being able to swallow \u2013 things
\nmost trivial to which no attention is paid when one is young and strong and
\nhealthy; no attention is paid and for everybody it is so; but when one lives in
\nthe consciousness of his body and of what happens to <\/span><\/p>\n

 <\/span>Page – 286<\/span><\/p>\n

<\/p>\n
\n

<\/span><\/div>\n

\n <\/span>it, the way
\nit receives, what comes and all that \u2013 oh! it is misery. When one lives in the
\nconsciousness of others, of what they want, what they need, their relation with
\nyou \u2013 it is misery! But if you live in the Divine Presence and if the Divine
\ndoes all, sees all, is all … it is Peace \u2013 it is Peace \u2013 time has no more duration,
\neverything is easy and … it is not that one feels a joy nor that one feels
\n… it is not that, it is the Divine who is there. And that is the only
\nsolution. And it is towards that that the world is moving: towards the
\nConsciousness of the Divine \u2013 the Divine who does, the Divine who is, the
\nDivine … And then identically the same circumstances (I do not speak of
\ndifferent circumstances), identically the same circumstances (this is my
\nexperience of these days, so concrete!) \u2013 the day before yesterday I was quite
\nunwell, and yesterday the circumstances were the same, my body was in the same
\nstate, everything the same and … all was peaceful. <\/span><\/p>\n

Of this I am absolutely convinced. <\/span><\/p>\n

This explains everything. This explains everything, everything,
\neverything. <\/span><\/p>\n

The world is the same \u2013 it is seen and felt in an absolutely
\nopposite way. <\/span><\/p>\n

Everything is a phenomenon of consciousness \u2013 everything. Only,
\nnot this consciousness, neither this one nor that one; it is not that. It is
\nour way, the human way of being conscious, or the divine way of being
\nconscious. There you are. The whole matter is there. And I am absolutely
\nconvinced. <\/span><\/p>\n

 <\/span><\/p>\n

(Silence<\/i>) <\/span><\/p>\n

After all, the world is
\nas it should be at every instant. <\/span><\/i> <\/span><\/p>\n

Yes.  <\/span><\/p>\n

It is we who see it wrongly
\nor feel it wrongly or receive it wrongly.<\/span><\/i><\/p>\n

 <\/span>Page – 287<\/span><\/p>\n

<\/p>\n
\n

<\/span><\/div>\n

It is like
\ndeath. Well, it is a transitional phenomenon and it appears to us that it has
\nbeen always so \u2013 for us it has been always so because our consciousness is like
\nthat (Mother cuts a small square in the
\nair<\/i>) \u2013 but when you have this Divine Consciousness, oh! … things become
\nalmost instantaneous, you understand. I cannot explain. <\/span><\/p>\n

There is a movement, there is a progression, there is what is
\ntranslated for us by time; that exists, it is something … it is something in
\nthe consciousness…. It is difficult to say … it is like a picture and its
\nprojection. It is something like that. All things are, and for us it is as
\nthough we see them projected on the screen, they come one after another. It is
\nsomewhat like that. <\/span><\/p>\n

 <\/span><\/p>\n

Yes, Sri Aurobindo said
\nthat in the supramental consciousness the past, the present and the future
\nexisted side by side, as though on a single map of consciousness.<\/span><\/i>\u00b9 <\/span><\/p>\n

 <\/span><\/p>\n

Yes, it is
\nso. It is so. But for me, it is an experience. It is not a thing that I \u201cthink\u201d
\n(I do not think), it is an experience. And it is difficult to explain. <\/span><\/p>\n

And the effect the thing produces in us, the sensation it brings
\nto us depends exclusively on the attitude of our consciousness. And then, the
\nconsciousness of being in oneself or in everything: to be in everything is
\nalready a little better than to be oneself egoistically, but it has advantages,
\nit has inconveniences, and it is not the Truth; the Truth is … the Divine as
\nthe totality \u2013 the totality in time and in space. And that is a consciousness
\nwhich the body can have, for this body had it <\/span><\/p>\n

 <\/span><\/p>\n

\n\u00b9 <\/font> <\/span>\u201cFor while the reason proceeds from moment to moment of time and
\nloses and acquires and again loses and again acquires, the gnosis dominates
\ntime in a one view and perpetual power and links past, present and future in
\ntheir indivisible connections, in a single continuous map of knowledge, side by
\nside. The gnosis starts from the totality which it immediately possesses; it
\nsees parts, groups and details only in relation to the totality and in one
\nvision with it…\u201d <\/font> <\/span><\/p>\n


\n(The Synthesis of Yoga,<\/i> Cent. Vol. 20, p.
\n464 )<\/font><\/span><\/p>\n

 <\/span>Page – 288<\/span><\/p>\n

<\/p>\n
\n

<\/span><\/div>\n

\n <\/span>(momentarily,
\nfor moments), and so long as it has it, everything is so much … well, it is
\nnot delight, it is not pleasure, it is not happiness, it is nothing of the
\nkind… a kind of blissful peace… and luminous… and creative…. It is
\nmagnificent. Only, it comes, it goes, it comes, it goes…. And when you come
\nout of it, you have the feeling of dropping into a horrible hole \u2013 our ordinary
\nconsciousness (I mean the ordinary human consciousness) is a horrible hole. But
\nyou know also why it was momentarily so; that is to say, it is necessary in
\norder to pass from the one to the other \u2013 all that happens is necessary for the
\nfull unfoldment of the goal of the creation. One might say: the goal of the
\ncreation is that the creature must become conscious like the Creator. There! It
\nis a phrase, but it is in that direction. The goal of this creation is this
\nConsciousness of the Infinite, the Eternal who is Omnipotent \u2013 Infinite,
\nEternal, Omnipotent (called God by our religions: for us, in relation to life,
\nit is the Divine) \u2013 Infinite and Eternal, Omnipotent … beyond time; each
\nindividual particle possessing this Consciousness, each individual particle
\ncontaining this same Consciousness. <\/span><\/p>\n

It is division that has created the world and it is in division
\nthat the Eternal manifests itself. <\/span><\/p>\n

Our language is … (or our consciousness) inadequate. Later on I
\nshall be able to say. <\/span><\/p>\n

Something is happening \u2013 there you are (Mother laughs<\/i>). <\/span><\/p>\n

Bon Noel, my child \u2013 the festival of the Light. <\/span><\/p>\n

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