{"id":4251,"date":"2013-07-13T01:54:34","date_gmt":"2013-07-13T01:54:34","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/localhost\/?p=4251"},"modified":"2013-07-13T01:54:34","modified_gmt":"2013-07-13T01:54:34","slug":"07-01-may-1957-vol-09-questions-and-answers-volume-09","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/worksofthemotherandsriaurobindo.org\/index.php\/02-works-of-the-mother\/01-cwmce\/09-questions-and-answers-volume-09\/07-01-may-1957-vol-09-questions-and-answers-volume-09","title":{"rendered":"-07_01 May 1957.htm"},"content":{"rendered":"<table border=\"0\" cellpadding=\"6\" style=\"border-collapse: collapse\" width=\"100%\">\n<tr>\n<td>\n<div class=\"Section1\">\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><b><i><br \/>\n<span lang=\"EN-GB\" style='font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'><font size=\"3\">1 May 1957<\/font><\/span><\/i><i><span lang=\"EN-GB\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\";color:#E2961A'><\/span><\/i><\/b><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><i><span lang=\"EN-GB\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>&nbsp;<\/span><\/i><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><i><span lang=\"EN-GB\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>\u201cIn the admission of an activity such as sports and<br \/>\nphysical exercises into the life of the Ashram it is evident that the methods<br \/>\nand the first objects to be attained must belong to what we have called the<br \/>\nlower end of the being. Originally they have been introduced for the physical<br \/>\neducation and bodily development of the children of the Ashram School and these<br \/>\nare too young for a strictly spiritual aim or practice to enter into their<br \/>\nactivities.\u2026Yet what can be attained within the human boundaries can be<br \/>\nsomething very considerable and sometimes immense: what we call genius is part<br \/>\nof the development of the human range of being and its achievements, especially<br \/>\nin things of the mind and will, can carry us halfway to the divine. Even what<br \/>\nthe mind and will can do with the body in the field proper to the body and its<br \/>\nlife, in the way of physical achievement, bodily endurance, feats of prowess of<br \/>\nall kinds, a lasting activity refusing fatigue or collapse and continuing<br \/>\nbeyond what seems at first to be possible, courage and refusal to succumb under<br \/>\nan endless and murderous physical suffering, these and other victories of many<br \/>\nkinds sometimes approaching or reaching the miraculous are seen in the human<br \/>\nfield and must be reckoned as a part of our concept of a total perfection&#8230;<\/span><\/i><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;text-indent:.25in;line-height:150%'><i><span lang=\"EN-GB\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>\u201cThe body, we have said,<br \/>\nis a creation of the Inconscient and itself inconscient or at least <span class=\"SpellE\">subconscient<\/span> in parts of itself and much of its hidden<br \/>\naction; but what we call the Inconscient is an appearance, a dwelling place, an<br \/>\ninstrument of a secret Consciousness or a Superconscient which has created the<br \/>\nmiracle we call the universe. Matter is the field and the creation of the<\/span><\/i><i><span lang=\"EN-GB\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>&nbsp;<\/span><\/i><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" align=\"center\" style='margin:0;text-align:center;line-height:150%'>\n<span lang=\"EN-GB\" style='font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>Page<br \/>\n\u2013 95<\/span><\/p>\n<div class=\"MsoNormal\" align=\"center\" style='text-align:center'><i><span lang=\"EN-GB\"><\/p>\n<hr size=\"2\" width=\"100%\" align=\"center\">\n<p><\/span><\/i><\/div>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;text-indent:3.0pt;line-height:150%'><i><br \/>\n<span lang=\"EN-GB\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>Inconscient and the perfection of the<br \/>\noperations of inconscient Matter, their perfect adaptation of means to an aim<br \/>\nand end, the wonders they perform and the marvels of beauty they create,<br \/>\ntestify, in spite of all the ignorant denial we can oppose, to the presence and<br \/>\npower of consciousness of this Superconscience in every part and movement of<br \/>\nthe material universe. It is there in the body, has made it and its emergence<br \/>\nin our consciousness is the secret aim of evolution and the key to the mystery<br \/>\nof our existence.\u201d <\/span><br \/>\n<span lang=\"EN-GB\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'><br \/>\n&nbsp;<\/span><\/i><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" align=\"right\" style='margin:0;text-align:right;text-indent:.5in;line-height:150%'><i><span lang=\"EN-GB\" style='font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'><font size=\"2\">&nbsp;The Supramental Manifestation, pp.<br \/>\n9-11 <\/font> <\/span><br \/>\n<font size=\"2\"><br \/>\n<span lang=\"EN-GB\" style='font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>&nbsp;<\/span><\/font><\/i><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;text-indent:.5in;line-height:150%'><i><span lang=\"EN-GB\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>Mother, are sports competitions essential to our<br \/>\nprogress? <\/span><\/i><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-GB\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>&nbsp;<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-GB\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>From the point of view<br \/>\nof moral education they are rather essential, for if one can take part in them<br \/>\nin the right spirit, it is a very good opportunity for mastering one\u2019s ego. If<br \/>\none does it without trying to overcome one\u2019s weaknesses and lower movements,<br \/>\none obviously doesn\u2019t know how to profit by them, and it does no good; but if<br \/>\none has the will to play in the right spirit, without any movement of a lower<br \/>\nkind, without jealousy or ambition, keeping an attitude which could be called<br \/>\n\u201cfair play\u201d, that is, doing one\u2019s best and not caring about the result; if one<br \/>\ncan put in the utmost effort without being upset because one has not met with<br \/>\nsuccess or things have not turned out in one\u2019s favour, then it is very useful.<br \/>\nOne can come out of all these competitions with a greater self-control and a<br \/>\ndetachment from results which are a great help to the formation of an<br \/>\nexceptional character. Naturally, if you do it in the ordinary way and with all<br \/>\nthe ordinary reactions and ugly movements, it doesn\u2019t help anything at all; but<br \/>\nthat holds good in no matter what one does; whether in the field of sports or<br \/>\nthe intellectual field, anywhere, if one acts in the ordinary way, well, one<br \/>\nwastes one\u2019s time. But if when playing or taking part in tournaments and<br \/>\ncompetitions, you keep the right spirit, it is a very good education, for it<br \/>\ncom \u2013<\/span><span lang=\"EN-GB\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>&nbsp;<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" align=\"center\" style='margin:0;text-align:center;line-height:150%'>\n<span lang=\"EN-GB\" style='font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>Page<br \/>\n\u2013 96<\/span><span lang=\"EN-GB\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'><\/span><\/p>\n<div class=\"MsoNormal\" align=\"center\" style='text-align:center'><i><span lang=\"EN-GB\"><\/p>\n<hr size=\"2\" width=\"100%\" align=\"center\">\n<p><\/span><\/i><\/div>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><span class=\"SpellE\"><span lang=\"EN-GB\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>pels<\/span><\/span><span lang=\"EN-GB\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'> you to make<br \/>\na special effort and to exceed your ordinary limits a little. It is certainly<br \/>\nan opportunity to make conscious many of your movements which otherwise would<br \/>\nalways remain unconscious. <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;text-indent:.25in;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-GB\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>But naturally,<br \/>\nyou must not forget that this must be an opportunity and a means for progress.<br \/>\nIf you just let yourselves go and play in an altogether ordinary manner, you<br \/>\nare wasting your time; but it is the same for everything, not only for this:<br \/>\nfor studies and for anything at all. Everything always depends on the way in<br \/>\nwhich things are done, not so much on what one does but on the spirit in which<br \/>\none does it. <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"line-height: 150%;margin: 0\"><span lang=\"EN-GB\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'><span>\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 <\/span>If you were all<br \/>\nyogis and did everything you do with your utmost effort and to your utmost possibilities,<br \/>\nas well as you can do it and always with the idea of doing it better still,<br \/>\nthen, obviously, there would be no need of competitions, prizes, rewards; but,<br \/>\nas Sri Aurobindo writes, little children cannot be expected to be yogis, and<br \/>\nduring the period of preparation a stimulus is necessary for the most material<br \/>\nconsciousness to make an effort for progress.\u2026And this period of childhood may<br \/>\nlast for many years!<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-GB\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'><span>\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 <\/span>The ideal would be exactly what I have<br \/>\nwritten in the last Bulletin,\u00b9 I don\u2019t know if you have read it, but I have<br \/>\nwritten something like this: <span>\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0<\/span><span> <\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;text-indent:.5in;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-GB\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>Have no ambition, <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-GB\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'><span>\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 <\/span><span>\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 <\/span>above<br \/>\nall pretend nothing, <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-GB\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'><span>\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 <\/span><span>\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 <\/span>but<br \/>\nbe at every moment <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-GB\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'><span>\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 <\/span><span>\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 <\/span>the<br \/>\nutmost that you can be. <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-GB\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'><span>\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 <\/span>That is the ideal state in the integral<br \/>\nlife \u2013 whatever one does. And if one realises that, well, one is certainly very<br \/>\nfar on the path of perfection\u2026 But it is obvious that a certain inner maturity<br \/>\nis needed to do this in all sincerity. You may set this as a programme for<br \/>\nyourselves. <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-GB\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'><span>\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 <\/span>If you like we shall take it as the<br \/>\nsubject of our meditation. <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-GB\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>&nbsp;<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" align=\"center\" style='margin:0;text-align:center;line-height:150%'><i><span lang=\"EN-GB\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>(Meditation)<\/span><\/i><b><span lang=\"EN-GB\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>&nbsp;<\/span><\/b><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;text-indent:.25in;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-GB\" style='font-family:\"Lucida Console\"'><br \/>\n<font size=\"2\">\u00b9<\/font><\/span><span lang=\"EN-GB\" style='font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'><font size=\"2\">April<br \/>\n1957<\/font><\/span><b><span lang=\"EN-GB\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>&nbsp;<\/span><\/b><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" align=\"center\" style='margin:0;text-align:center;line-height:150%'>\n<span lang=\"EN-GB\" style='font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>Page \u2013 97<\/span><\/p>\n<div class=\"MsoNormal\" align=\"center\" style='text-align:center'><i><span lang=\"EN-GB\"><\/p>\n<hr size=\"2\" width=\"100%\" align=\"center\">\n<p><\/span><\/i><\/div>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><b><i><br \/>\n<span lang=\"EN-GB\" style='font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'><a name=\"01_8 May 1957\"><font size=\"3\">8 May 1957<\/font><\/a><\/span><\/i><\/b><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><i><span lang=\"EN-GB\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>&nbsp;<\/span><\/i><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><i><span lang=\"EN-GB\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>Mother, usually we see that many of us take an<br \/>\ninterest in the games and activities in which there is some excitement, but few<br \/>\ntake interest in serious activities, serious exercises. Why is that? <\/span><\/i><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-GB\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>&nbsp;<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-GB\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>Because in the vast<br \/>\nmajority of cases, what gives interest is vital satisfaction. For you to be<br \/>\ninterested in training exercises which don\u2019t have the stimulus of games, the reason<br \/>\nmust govern the being. In ordinary men reason is the summit of human<br \/>\nconsciousness, and this is the part of the being which must govern the rest,<br \/>\nfor it is orderly and reasonable, that is, it does things with a feeling for<br \/>\norder, for goodness, usefulness, and in accordance with a plan, a specific<br \/>\nplan, recognised and used by each one, whereas the vital part of the being<br \/>\nlikes excitement, the unexpected, adventure \u2013 all that makes games attractive \u2013<br \/>\nabove all, competition, the effort to win, victory over the opponent, all these<br \/>\nthings; it is the vital impulse, and the vital in man being the seat of<br \/>\nenthusiasm, ardour, normal energy, when the attraction of the unexpected, of<br \/>\nstruggle and victory is not there, it goes to sleep, unless it is in the habit of<br \/>\nobeying, regularly and spontaneously, the will of the reason. And this is even<br \/>\none of the first things for which all physical training is useful: the fact<br \/>\nthat it cannot be done really well unless the body is in the habit of obeying<br \/>\nthe reason rather than the vital impulse. For instance, the whole development<br \/>\nof bodily perfection, of physical culture with dumb-bells and the exercises<br \/>\nwhich have nothing particularly exciting and demand a discipline, habits which<br \/>\nmust be regular, reasonable, which give no scope to passion, desire, impulse \u2013<br \/>\none must order one\u2019s life according to a very strict and very regular<br \/>\ndiscipline \u2013 well, in order to do them really well one must be in the habit of<br \/>\ngoverning one\u2019s life by the reason.&nbsp;<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" align=\"center\" style='margin:0;text-align:center;line-height:150%'>\n<span lang=\"EN-GB\" style='font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>Page<br \/>\n\u2013 98<\/span><span lang=\"EN-GB\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\";color:blue'><\/span><\/p>\n<div class=\"MsoNormal\" align=\"center\" style='text-align:center'><i><span lang=\"EN-GB\"><\/p>\n<hr size=\"2\" width=\"100%\" align=\"center\">\n<p><\/span><\/i><\/div>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;text-indent:.25in;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-GB\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'><span>\u00a0<\/span>This is not very common. Usually, unless one<br \/>\nhas taken good care to make it otherwise, the impulses \u2013 the impulses of desire<br \/>\n\u2013 all the enthusiasms and passions with all their reactions are the masters of<br \/>\nhuman life. One must already be something of a sage to be able to undergo a<br \/>\nrigorous discipline of the body and obtain from it the ordered, regular effort<br \/>\nwhich can perfect it. There is no longer any room there for all the fancies of<br \/>\ndesire. You see, as soon as one gives way to excesses, to immoderation of any<br \/>\nkind and a disorderly life, it becomes quite impossible to control one\u2019s body<br \/>\nand develop it normally, not to mention that, naturally, one spoils one\u2019s<br \/>\nhealth and as a result the most important part of the ideal of a perfect body<br \/>\ndisappears; for with bad health, impaired health, one is not much good for<br \/>\nanything. And it is certainly the satisfaction of desires and impulses of the<br \/>\nvital or the unreasonable demands of certain ambitions which make the body<br \/>\nsuffer and fall ill. <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;text-indent:.25in;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-GB\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>Naturally,<br \/>\nthere is all the ignorance of those who don\u2019t even know the most elementary<br \/>\nrules of life; but everybody knows one must learn how to live and, for<br \/>\ninstance, that fire burns and water can drown! People don\u2019t need to be told all<br \/>\nthat, it is something they learn fast as they grow up; but the fact that the<br \/>\ncontrol of reason over life is absolutely indispensable even for good health,<br \/>\nis not always accepted by the inferior man for whom life has no savour unless<br \/>\nhe can live out his passions. <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-GB\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'><span>\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 <\/span>I remember a man who came here a very<br \/>\nlong time ago, to stand as a candidate for the government. It so happened that<br \/>\nhe was introduced to me because they wanted my opinion of him, and so he asked<br \/>\nme questions about the Ashram and the life we lead here, and about what I<br \/>\nconsidered to be an indispensable discipline for life. This man used to smoke<br \/>\nthe whole day and drank much more than was necessary, and so he complained, you<br \/>\nsee, that he was often tired and sometimes could not control himself. I told<br \/>\nhim, \u201cYou know, first of all, you must stop smoking and you must stop<br \/>\ndrinking.\u201d He looked at me with an unbelievable bewilderment and said, \u201cBut<br \/>\nthen, if one&nbsp;<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" align=\"center\" style='margin:0;text-align:center;line-height:150%'>\n<span lang=\"EN-GB\" style='font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>Page<br \/>\n\u2013 99<\/span><span lang=\"EN-GB\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\";color:blue'><\/span><\/p>\n<div class=\"MsoNormal\" align=\"center\" style='text-align:center'><i><span lang=\"EN-GB\"><\/p>\n<hr size=\"2\" width=\"100%\" align=\"center\">\n<p><\/span><\/i><\/div>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'>\n<span lang=\"EN-GB\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>doesn\u2019t either smoke or drink, it is not worth<br \/>\nliving!\u201d I told him, \u201cIf you are still at that stage, it is no use saying<br \/>\nanything more.\u201d<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;text-indent:.25in;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-GB\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>And this is<br \/>\nmuch more frequent than one thinks. To us it seems absurd, for we have<br \/>\nsomething else which is of course more interesting than smoking and drinking,<br \/>\nbut for ordinary men the satisfaction of their desires is the very reason for<br \/>\nexistence. For them it seems to be an affirmation of their independence and<br \/>\ntheir purpose in life. And it is simply a perversion, a deformation which is a<br \/>\ndenial of the life-instinct, it is an unhealthy interference of thought and<br \/>\nvital impulse in physical life. It is an unhealthy impulse which does not<br \/>\nusually exist even in animals. In this case, instinct in animals is infinitely<br \/>\nmore reasonable than human instinct \u2013 which, besides, doesn\u2019t exist any more,<br \/>\nwhich has been replaced by a very perverted impulse. <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-GB\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'><span>\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 <\/span>Perversion is a human disease, it occurs<br \/>\nonly very rarely in animals, and then only in animals which have come close to<br \/>\nman and therefore have been contaminated by his perversion. <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-GB\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>There is a story about<br \/>\nsome officers in <\/span><span lang=\"EN-GB\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>North Africa<\/span><span lang=\"EN-GB\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'> \u2013 in <\/span><span lang=\"EN-GB\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>Algeria<\/span><span lang=\"EN-GB\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'> \u2013 who had<br \/>\nadopted a monkey. The monkey lived with them and one day at dinner they had a<br \/>\ngrotesque idea and gave the monkey something to drink. They gave it alcohol.<br \/>\nThe monkey first saw the others drink, this seemed to it something quite<br \/>\ninteresting, and it drank a glass, a full glass of wine. Afterwards it was ill,<br \/>\nas ill as could be, it rolled under the table with all kinds of pains and was<br \/>\nreally in a very bad way, that is, it gave the men an example of the<br \/>\nspontaneous effect of alcohol when the physical nature is not already perverted.<br \/>\nIt nearly died of poisoning. It recovered. And some time later it was again<br \/>\nallowed to come for dinner as it was all right, and somebody placed a glass of<br \/>\nwine in front of it. It picked it up in a terrible rage and flung it at the<br \/>\nhead of the man who had given the glass to it\u2026 By that it showed that it was<br \/>\nmuch wiser than the men! <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-GB\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'><span>\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 <\/span>It is a good thing to begin to learn at<br \/>\nan early age that to lead an efficient life and obtain from one\u2019s body the<br \/>\nmaximum it is able to give, reason must be the master of the house. And<span>\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 <\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" align=\"center\" style='margin:0;text-align:center;line-height:150%'>\n<span lang=\"EN-GB\" style='font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>Page<br \/>\n\u2013 100<\/span><\/p>\n<div class=\"MsoNormal\" align=\"center\" style='text-align:center'><i><span lang=\"EN-GB\"><\/p>\n<hr size=\"2\" width=\"100%\" align=\"center\">\n<p><\/span><\/i><\/div>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;text-indent:.25in;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-GB\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>it is not a<br \/>\nquestion of yoga or higher realisation, it is something which should be taught<br \/>\neverywhere, in every school, every family, every home: man was made to be a<br \/>\nmental being, and merely to be a man \u2013 we are not speaking of anything else, we<br \/>\nare speaking only of being a man \u2013 life must be dominated by reason and not by<br \/>\nvital impulses. This should be taught to all children from their infancy. If<br \/>\none is not dominated by reason, one is a brute lower than the animal; for<br \/>\nanimals don\u2019t have a mind or a reason to dominate them, but they obey the<br \/>\ninstinct of the species. There is an instinct of the species which is an<br \/>\nextremely reasonable instinct that regulates all their activities for their own<br \/>\ngood, and automatically, without knowing it, they are subject to this instinct<br \/>\nof the species which is altogether reasonable from the point of view of that<br \/>\nspecies, of each species. And those animals which for some reason or other<br \/>\nbecome free of it \u2013 as I was saying just a while ago, those which live near man<br \/>\nand begin to obey man instead of obeying the instinct of the species \u2013 are<br \/>\nperverted and lose the qualities of their species. But an animal left to its<br \/>\nnatural life and free from human influence is an extremely reasonable being<br \/>\nfrom its own point of view, for it only does things which are in conformity<br \/>\nwith its nature and its own good. Naturally, it meets with disasters, for it is<br \/>\nconstantly at war with all the other species, but it does not itself act<br \/>\nfoolishly. Stupidities and perversion begin with conscious mind and the human<br \/>\nspecies. It is the wrong use man makes of his mental capacity. Perversion<br \/>\nbegins with humanity. It is a distortion of the progress of Nature which mental<br \/>\nconsciousness represents. And, therefore, the first thing which should be<br \/>\ntaught to every human being as soon as he is able to think, is that he should<br \/>\nobey reason which is a super-instinct of the species. Reason is the master of<br \/>\nthe nature of mankind. One must obey reason and absolutely refuse to be the<br \/>\nslave of instincts. And here I am not talking to you about yoga, I am not<br \/>\ntalking about spiritual life, not at all; it has nothing to do with that. It is<br \/>\nthe basic wisdom of human life, purely human life: every human being who<br \/>\n&nbsp;<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" align=\"center\" style='margin:0;text-align:center;line-height:150%'>\n<span lang=\"EN-GB\" style='font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>Page<br \/>\n\u2013 101<\/span><\/p>\n<div class=\"MsoNormal\" align=\"center\" style='text-align:center'><i><span lang=\"EN-GB\"><\/p>\n<hr size=\"2\" width=\"100%\" align=\"center\">\n<p><\/span><\/i><\/div>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-GB\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>anything other than<br \/>\nreason is a kind of brute lower than the animal. That\u2019s all. And this should be<br \/>\ntaught everywhere; it is the basic education which should be given to children.<br \/>\n<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;text-indent:.25in;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-GB\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>The reign of<br \/>\nreason must come to an end only with the advent of the psychic law which<br \/>\nmanifests the divine Will.<br \/>\n&nbsp;<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" align=\"center\" style='margin:0;text-align:center;line-height:150%'>\n<span lang=\"EN-GB\" style='font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>Page-<br \/>\n102<\/span><\/p>\n<div class=\"MsoNormal\" align=\"center\" style='text-align:center'><i><span lang=\"EN-GB\"><\/p>\n<hr size=\"2\" width=\"100%\" align=\"center\">\n<p><\/span><\/i><\/div>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify'><b><i><br \/>\n<span lang=\"EN-GB\" style='font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'><a name=\"02_15 May 1957\"><font size=\"3\">15 May 1957<br \/>\n<\/font><br \/>\n<\/a> <\/span><\/i><\/b><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify'><i><span lang=\"EN-GB\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>&nbsp;<\/span><\/i><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;text-indent:.5in'><i><span lang=\"EN-GB\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>Mother, since the beginning of creation, why is<br \/>\nthere this difference between male and female?<\/span><\/i><span lang=\"EN-GB\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'> <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;text-indent:.5in'><span lang=\"EN-GB\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>&nbsp;<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify'><span lang=\"EN-GB\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>Since the beginning of<br \/>\nwhich creation? Which creation are you speaking about?\u2026Of the Earth? <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;text-indent:.5in'><span lang=\"EN-GB\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>&nbsp;<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;text-indent:.5in'><i><span lang=\"EN-GB\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>Yes. <\/span><\/i><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify'><i><span lang=\"EN-GB\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'><span>\u00a0 <\/span><\/span><\/i><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-GB\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>First this is not<br \/>\ncorrect. There are species in which there is no difference; and in the<br \/>\nbeginning there wasn\u2019t any \u2013 first point. Second point, the terrestrial<br \/>\ncreation is a purely material creation and is a sort of materialisation and<br \/>\ncondensation of the universal creation, but in the universal creation this<br \/>\ndifference does not necessarily exist. All the possibilities are there, and all<br \/>\nthings possible have existed and still exist, and this differentiation is not<br \/>\nat all the basis of creation. <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;text-indent:.25in;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-GB\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>So your<br \/>\nquestion does not stand, for it is incorrect. <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-GB\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'><span>\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 <\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;text-indent:.5in;line-height:150%'><i><span lang=\"EN-GB\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>But why in the material creation? <\/span><\/i><span lang=\"EN-GB\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-GB\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>&nbsp;<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-GB\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>I am telling you it has<br \/>\nnot been like that from the beginning. A zoologist could tell you that there<br \/>\nare species which are not like that at all. Nature has tried this method tries<br \/>\nmany things, it has made all possible species, made the two in one, made every<br \/>\npossible thing\u2026 It tries like this because probably this appears more practical<br \/>\nto it! I don\u2019t know. That\u2019s all. <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;text-indent:.25in;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-GB\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>But on the<br \/>\nother planes, even in the terrestrial world, the more subtle planes of the<br \/>\nterrestrial world, even in the subtle physical and the vital and mental, there<br \/>\nare beings divided in two like this, but also beings which are neither male nor<br \/>\nfemale. They exist. For instance, in the vital world, it is extremely rare to<br \/>\ncome across differentiations of sex the beings are usually sex \u2013<\/span><span lang=\"EN-GB\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>&nbsp;<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" align=\"center\" style='margin:0;text-align:center;line-height:150%'>\n<span lang=\"EN-GB\" style='font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>Page<br \/>\n\u2013 103<\/span><\/p>\n<div class=\"MsoNormal\" align=\"center\" style='text-align:center'><i><span lang=\"EN-GB\"><\/p>\n<hr size=\"2\" width=\"100%\" align=\"center\">\n<p><\/span><\/i><\/div>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-GB\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>less. And I strongly<br \/>\nsuspect that the world of the gods as described to us by men, has been largely influenced<br \/>\nby human thought. In any case, there are many deities who are without sex. In<br \/>\nall the stories told of the pantheons of all countries, there is a good deal<br \/>\nthat has been strongly influenced by human thought. So, this difference is<br \/>\nsimply a means used by Nature to achieve its aim, that\u2019s all, nothing more than<br \/>\nthat. We must take it like that. It is not an eternal symbol \u2013 not at all. <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;text-indent:.25in;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-GB\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>Now, there<br \/>\nare many people who are very keen on this distinction \u2013 they may keep it if<br \/>\nthey like! \u2013 but it is not at all something final or eternal\u2026or perfect in<br \/>\nitself. It was perhaps the ideal of the <span class=\"SpellE\">overmind<\/span><br \/>\ncreation, that is possible\u2026 and yet, even then not totally, only partially. But<br \/>\nstill those who are so fond of this differentiation \u2013 let them keep it if they<br \/>\nlike! If it gives them pleasure\u2026 It has its advantages and disadvantages, many<br \/>\ndisadvantages. <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-GB\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>&nbsp;<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><i><span lang=\"EN-GB\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'><span>\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 <\/span><span>\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 <\/span><span>\u00a0<\/span>Mother, then why do the forces of the vital<br \/>\nworld escape this condition? <\/span><\/i><br \/>\n<span lang=\"EN-GB\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>&nbsp;<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-GB\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>What? <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;text-indent:.5in;line-height:150%'><i><span lang=\"EN-GB\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>You say this differentiation does not exist in<br \/>\nthe vital world.<\/span><\/i><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-GB\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>&nbsp;<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-GB\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>I don\u2019t say it doesn\u2019t<br \/>\nexist, I say it is not a general rule and that, on the contrary, one meets<br \/>\nsexless beings more often than those with sex. And it is also probable that in<br \/>\nthe vital world this differentiation has come mostly due to the influence of<br \/>\nthe earth.<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;text-indent:.25in;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-GB\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>And so, now?<br \/>\nWhy these questions and what are you driving at? That\u2019s what I want to know.<br \/>\nWho told you that from the beginning of the universe it has been like<br \/>\nthat?\u2026People who are extremely keen that it should continue to be like that? I<br \/>\nsay, if they like it, let them continue, nobody will disturb them. If it makes<br \/>\nthem happy!&nbsp;<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" align=\"center\" style='margin:0;text-align:center;line-height:150%'>\n<span lang=\"EN-GB\" style='font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>Page<br \/>\n\u2013 104<\/span><span lang=\"EN-GB\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\";color:blue'><\/span><\/p>\n<div class=\"MsoNormal\" align=\"center\" style='text-align:center'><i><span lang=\"EN-GB\"><\/p>\n<hr size=\"2\" width=\"100%\" align=\"center\">\n<p><\/span><\/i><\/div>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><i><span lang=\"EN-GB\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>\u201cThere are higher levels of the mind than any we<br \/>\nnow conceive and to these we must one day reach and rise beyond them to the<br \/>\nheights of a greater, a spiritual existence. As we rise we have to open to them<br \/>\nour lower members and fill these with those superior and supreme dynamisms of<br \/>\nlight and power; the body we have to make a more and more and even entirely<br \/>\nconscious frame and instrument, a conscious sign and seal and power of the<br \/>\nspirit. As it grows in this perfection, the force and extent of its dynamic<br \/>\naction and its response and service to the spirit must increase, the control of<br \/>\nthe spirit over it also must grow and the plasticity of its functioning both in<br \/>\nits developed and acquired parts of power and in its automatic responses down<br \/>\nto those that are now purely organic and seem to be the movements of a mechanic<br \/>\ninconscience. This cannot happen without a veritable transformation and a<br \/>\ntransformation of the mind and life and very body is indeed the change to which<br \/>\nour evolution is secretly moving and without this transformation the entire<br \/>\nfullness of a divine life on earth cannot emerge. In this transformation the<br \/>\nbody itself can become an agent and a partner. It might indeed be possible for<br \/>\nthe spirit to achieve a considerable manifestation with only a passive and<br \/>\nimperfectly conscious body as its last or bottommost means of material<br \/>\nfunctioning, but this could not be anything perfect or complete. A fully<br \/>\nconscious body might even discover and work out the right material method and<br \/>\nprocess of a material transformation. For this, no doubt, the spirit\u2019s supreme<br \/>\nlight and power and creative joy must have manifested on the summit of the<br \/>\nindividual consciousness and sent down their fiat into the body&#8230;.\u201d&nbsp;<\/span><\/i><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"line-height: 150%;margin: 0\"><i><br \/>\n<span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Times New Roman' lang=\"EN-GB\">\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0<br \/>\n<\/span><span lang=\"EN-GB\" style='font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'><span>\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<font size=\"2\"><br \/>\n<\/font> <\/span><\/span><font size=\"2\"><br \/>\n<span style='font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <\/span><span lang=\"EN-GB\" style='font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>The Supramental Manifestation, pp. 15-16<\/span><\/font><\/i><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" align=\"center\" style='margin:0;text-align:center;text-indent:.5in;line-height:150%'>\n<span lang=\"EN-GB\" style='font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>Page \u2013 105<\/span><\/p>\n<div class=\"MsoNormal\" align=\"center\" style='margin-left:7.5pt;text-align:center;text-indent:-7.5pt'><i><span lang=\"EN-GB\"><\/p>\n<hr size=\"2\" width=\"100%\" align=\"center\">\n<p><\/span><\/i><\/div>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><i><span lang=\"EN-GB\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>Mother, will the transformation of the body come<br \/>\nafter the transformation of the mind and vital, or will it follow<br \/>\nspontaneously? <\/span><\/i><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-GB\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>&nbsp;<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-GB\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>Usually this kind of<br \/>\ntransformation proceeds from above downwards, not from below upwards. <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;text-indent:.25in;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-GB\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>Obviously, if<br \/>\nyou are a thorough-going materialist, you will say that it is the development<br \/>\nof the form which brings out new capacities; but still, this is not quite<br \/>\ncorrect, it is not exactly like this that things usually happen, and I<br \/>\nchallenge you to transform your body before your mind has been transformed.<br \/>\nJust try, let us see! <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-GB\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'><span>\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 <\/span>You cannot move a finger, say a word,<br \/>\nwalk one step without the mind\u2019s intervention; so with what instrument are you<br \/>\ngoing to transform your body if your mind is not already transformed? <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-GB\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'><span>\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 <\/span>If you remain in the state of ignorance \u2013<br \/>\nof perfect ignorance, I might say \u2013 which your mind is in at present, how do<br \/>\nyou expect your body to be transformed? <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-GB\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>&nbsp;<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><i><span lang=\"EN-GB\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>Sometimes one finds a great resistance in the<br \/>\nbody. What is the reason? The mind does not interfere, but there is a<br \/>\nresistance. The greatest resistance comes from the physical, there is a special<br \/>\nresistance of the physical. <\/span><\/i><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-GB\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>&nbsp;<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-GB\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>Where is the greatest<br \/>\nresistance?\u2026In your head.<i> (Laughter)<\/i><br \/>\nThis is not a special case. Most often what refuses most to change is the<br \/>\nphysical mind \u2013 so obstinate, isn\u2019t it, in the conviction of its own<br \/>\ncompetence, ooh!\u2026In the love it has for its own ignorance, its own way of<br \/>\nthinking, its own way of seeing, its own way of not knowing. <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify'><span lang=\"EN-GB\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>&nbsp;<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify'><span lang=\"EN-GB\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>Is that<br \/>\nall?\u2026All right! Then we won\u2019t say anything more. <span>\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 <\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify'><span lang=\"EN-GB\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'><span>\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 <\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;text-indent:.5in'><i><span lang=\"EN-GB\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>I am asking for the remedy. <\/span><\/i><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify'><span lang=\"EN-GB\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>&nbsp;<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify'><span lang=\"EN-GB\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>Oh! Oh!\u2026<i>(Long silence)\u2026<\/i>There, that\u2019s the remedy.&nbsp;<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" align=\"center\" style='margin:0;text-align:center;line-height:150%'>\n<span><font size=\"3\">Page \u2013 106<\/font><\/span><\/p>\n<div class=\"MsoNormal\" align=\"center\" style='text-align:center'><i><\/p>\n<hr size=\"2\" width=\"100%\" align=\"center\">\n<p><\/i><\/div>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><b><i><br \/>\n<span lang=\"EN-GB\" style='font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'><br \/>\n<a name=\"03_29 May 1957\"><font size=\"3\">29<br \/>\nMay 1957 <\/font> <\/a> <\/span><\/i><\/b><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><i><span lang=\"EN-GB\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>&nbsp;<\/span><\/i><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><i><span lang=\"EN-GB\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>\u201cA divine<br \/>\nlife in a divine body is the formula of the ideal that we envisage.\u2026The process<br \/>\nof the evolution upon earth has been slow and tardy \u2013 what principle must intervene<br \/>\nif there is to be a transformation, a progressive or sudden change? <\/span><\/i><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;text-indent:.25in;line-height:150%'><i><span lang=\"EN-GB\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>\u201cIt<br \/>\nis indeed as a result of our evolution that we arrive at the possibility of<br \/>\nthis transformation. As Nature has evolved beyond Matter and manifested Life,<br \/>\nbeyond Life and manifested Mind, so she must evolve beyond Mind and manifest a<br \/>\nconsciousness and power of our existence free from the imperfection and<br \/>\nlimitation of our mental existence, a supramental or truth-consciousness and<br \/>\nable to develop the power and perfection of the spirit. Here a slow and tardy<br \/>\nchange need no longer be the law or manner of our evolution; it will be only so<br \/>\nto a greater or less extent so long as a mental ignorance clings and hampers<br \/>\nour ascent; but once we have grown into the truth-consciousness its power of<br \/>\nspiritual truth of being will determine all.\u2026<\/span><\/i><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;text-indent:.25in;line-height:150%'><i><span lang=\"EN-GB\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>\u201cIt<br \/>\nmight be also that the transformation might take place by stages; there are<br \/>\npowers of the nature still belonging to the mental region which are yet<br \/>\npotentialities of a growing gnosis lifted beyond our human mentality and<br \/>\npartaking of the light and power of the Divine and an ascent through these<br \/>\nplanes, a descent of them into the mental being might seem to be the natural<br \/>\nevolutionary course. But in practice it might be found that these intermediate<br \/>\nlevels would not be sufficient for the total transformation since, being<br \/>\nthemselves illumined potentialities of mental being not yet supramental in the<br \/>\nfull sense of the word, <\/span><\/i><i><br \/>\n<span lang=\"EN-GB\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'><br \/>\n&nbsp;<\/span><\/i><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" align=\"center\" style='margin:0;text-align:center;line-height:150%'>\n<span lang=\"EN-GB\" style='font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>Page \u2013 107<\/span><\/p>\n<div class=\"MsoNormal\" align=\"center\" style='text-align:center'><span lang=\"EN-GB\" style='color:blue'><\/p>\n<hr size=\"2\" width=\"100%\" align=\"center\">\n<p><\/span><\/div>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><i><span lang=\"EN-GB\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>they could bring<br \/>\ndown to the mind only a partial divinity or raise the mind towards that but not<br \/>\neffectuate its elevation into the complete <span class=\"SpellE\">supramentality<\/span><br \/>\nof the truth-consciousness. Still these levels might become stages of the<br \/>\nascent which some would reach and pause there while others went higher and<br \/>\ncould reach and live on superior strata of a semi-divine existence. It is not<br \/>\nto be supposed that all humanity would rise in a block into the supermind&#8230;\u201d<\/span><\/i><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" align=\"right\" style='margin:0;text-align:right;text-indent:.5in;line-height:150%'><i><span lang=\"EN-GB\" style='font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'><br \/>\n<font size=\"2\">The<br \/>\nSupramental Manifestation, pp. 20-22 <\/font> <\/span><\/i><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-GB\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>&nbsp;<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-GB\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>It is precisely about this progressive transformation that I am<br \/>\ngoing to speak to you this evening\u2026 I have often been asked this question,<br \/>\n\u201cWhy, after having posited as an ideal principle that when we deal with our<br \/>\nbody we ought to do it with the knowledge that it is only a result and an<br \/>\ninstrument of the supreme Reality of the universe and of the truth of our<br \/>\nbeing, \u2013 why, after having taught this and shown that this is the truth to be<br \/>\nrealised, do we have in the organisation of our Ashram, doctors, dispensaries,<br \/>\na physical education of the body based on modern theories accepted everywhere?\u201d<br \/>\nAnd why, when some of you go for a picnic do I forbid you to drink water from<br \/>\njust anywhere and tell you to take filtered water with you? Why do I have the<br \/>\nfruit you eat disinfected, etc.? <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;text-indent:.25in;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-GB\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>All this seems contradictory, but this evening I intend to explain<br \/>\nsomething to you which, I hope, will put an end to this feeling of a<br \/>\ncontradiction in you. In fact, I have told you many a time that when two ideas<br \/>\nor principles apparently seem to contradict one another, you must rise a little<br \/>\nhigher in your thought and find the point where the contradictions meet in a<br \/>\ncomprehensive synthesis. <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-GB\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'><span>\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 <\/span>Here, it is very easy<br \/>\nif we know one thing, that the method we use to deal with our body, maintain<br \/>\nit, keep it fit, improve it and keep it in good health, depends exclusively on<br \/>\nthe state of consciousness we are in; for our body is an instrument of our<br \/>\n&nbsp;<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" align=\"center\" style='margin:0;text-align:center;line-height:150%'>\n<span lang=\"EN-GB\" style='font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>Page \u2013 108<\/span><\/p>\n<div class=\"MsoNormal\" align=\"center\" style='text-align:center'><span lang=\"EN-GB\" style='color:blue'><\/p>\n<hr size=\"2\" width=\"100%\" align=\"center\">\n<p><\/span><\/div>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-GB\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>consciousness and this consciousness can act directly on it and<br \/>\nobtain what it wants from it. <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;text-indent:.25in;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-GB\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>So, if you are in an ordinary physical consciousness, if you see<br \/>\nthings with the eyes of the ordinary physical consciousness, if you think of<br \/>\nthem with the ordinary physical consciousness, it will be ordinary physical<br \/>\nmeans you will have to use to act on your body. These ordinary physical means<br \/>\nmake up the whole science which has accumulated through thousands of years of<br \/>\nhuman existence. This science is very complex, its processes innumerable, complicated,<br \/>\nuncertain, often contradictory, always progressive and almost absolutely<br \/>\nrelative! Still, very precise results have been achieved; ever since physical<br \/>\nculture has become a serious preoccupation, a certain number of experiments,<br \/>\nstudies, observations have accumulated, which enable us to regulate diet,<br \/>\nactivities, exercise, the whole outer organisation of life, and provide an<br \/>\nadequate basis so that those who make the effort to study and conform strictly<br \/>\nto these things have a chance to maintain their body in good health, correct<br \/>\nthe defects it may have and improve its general condition, and even achieve<br \/>\nresults which are sometimes quite remarkable. <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-GB\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'><span>\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 <\/span>I may add, moreover,<br \/>\nthat this intellectual human science, such as it is at present, in its very<br \/>\nsincere effort to find the truth, is, surprisingly enough, drawing closer and<br \/>\ncloser to the essential truth of the Spirit. It is not impossible to foresee<br \/>\nthe movement where the two will unite in a very deep and very close<br \/>\nunderstanding of the essential truth. <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-GB\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'><span>\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 <\/span>So, for all those who<br \/>\nlive on the physical plane, in the physical consciousness, it is physical means<br \/>\nand processes which have to be used in dealing with the body. And as the vast<br \/>\nmajority of human beings, even in the Ashram, live in a consciousness which, if<br \/>\nnot exclusively physical, is at least predominantly physical, it is quite<br \/>\nnatural for them to follow and obey all the principles laid down by physical<br \/>\nscience for the care of the body. <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-GB\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'><span>\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 <\/span>Now, according to what<br \/>\nSri Aurobindo teaches us, this is not a final realisation, nor is it the ideal<br \/>\nto which we want to rise.<br \/>\n&nbsp;<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" align=\"center\" style='margin:0;text-align:center;line-height:150%'>\n<span lang=\"EN-GB\" style='font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>Page \u2013 109<\/span><\/p>\n<div class=\"MsoNormal\" align=\"center\" style='text-align:center'><span lang=\"EN-GB\" style='color:blue'><\/p>\n<hr size=\"2\" width=\"100%\" align=\"center\">\n<p><\/span><\/div>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-GB\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>There is a higher state than this, in which the consciousness,<br \/>\nthough it still remains principally mental or partially mental in its<br \/>\nfunctioning, is already open to higher regions in an aspiration for the<br \/>\nspiritual life, and open to the supramental influence.<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;text-indent:.25in;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-GB\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>As soon as this opening occurs, one passes beyond the state in<br \/>\nwhich life is purely physical \u2013 when I say \u201cphysical\u201d I include the whole<br \/>\nmental and intellectual life and all human achievements, even the most<br \/>\nremarkable; I am speaking of a physical which is the summit of human<br \/>\ncapacities, of an earthly and material life in which man can express values of<br \/>\na higher order from the mental and intellectual point of view \u2013 one can go<br \/>\nbeyond that state, open oneself to the supramental force which is now acting on<br \/>\nearth and enter a transitional zone where the two influences meet and<br \/>\ninterpenetrate, where the consciousness is still mental and intellectual in its<br \/>\nfunctioning, but sufficiently imbued with the supramental strength and force to<br \/>\nbecome the instrument of a higher truth. <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-GB\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'><span>\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 <\/span>At present this state<br \/>\ncan be realised on earth by those who have prepared themselves to receive the<br \/>\nsupramental force which is manifesting. And in that state, in that state of<br \/>\nconsciousness, the body can benefit from a much better condition than the one<br \/>\nit was in before. It can be put into direct contact with the essential truth of<br \/>\nits being, to the extent that, spontaneously, at every moment it knows<br \/>\ninstinctively, or intuitively, what is to be done and that it can do it. <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-GB\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'><span>\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 <\/span>As I say, this state<br \/>\ncan now be realised by all those who take the trouble of preparing themselves<br \/>\nto receive the supramental force, to assimilate it and obey it. <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-GB\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'><span>\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 <\/span>Of course, there is a<br \/>\nhigher state than this, the state Sri Aurobindo speaks of as the ideal to be<br \/>\nfulfilled: the divine life in a divine body. But he himself tells us that this<br \/>\nwill take time; it is an integral transformation which cannot be achieved in a<br \/>\nmoment. It will even take quite a long time. But when it is accomplished, when<br \/>\nthe consciousness has become a supramental consciousness, then action will no<br \/>\nlonger be determined at <\/span><br \/>\n<span lang=\"EN-GB\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'><br \/>\n&nbsp;<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" align=\"center\" style='margin:0;text-align:center;line-height:150%'>\n<span lang=\"EN-GB\" style='font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>Page \u2013 110<\/span><\/p>\n<div class=\"MsoNormal\" align=\"center\" style='text-align:center'><span lang=\"EN-GB\" style='color:blue'><\/p>\n<hr size=\"2\" width=\"100%\" align=\"center\">\n<p><\/span><\/div>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-GB\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>every moment by a mental choice or be dependent on the physical<br \/>\ncapacity: the entire body will spontaneously, integrally, be the perfect<br \/>\nexpression of the inner truth. <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;text-indent:.25in;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-GB\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>This is the ideal we must keep before us, for the realisation of<br \/>\nwhich we must strive; but we must not delude ourselves and think that it can be<br \/>\na rapid transformation, miraculous, immediate, marvellous, without effort and<br \/>\nwithout labour. <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-GB\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'><span>\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 <\/span>However, it is no<br \/>\nlonger only a possibility, it is no longer even only a promise for a far-off<br \/>\nfuture: it is something which is in the making. And already one can not only<br \/>\nforesee but feel the moment when the body will be able to repeat integrally the<br \/>\nexperience of the most spiritual part of the being, as the inner spirit has<br \/>\nalready done, and will itself be able to stand in its bodily consciousness<br \/>\nbefore the supreme Reality, turn to it integrally and say in all sincerity, in<br \/>\na total self-giving of all its cells: \u201cTo be Thyself \u2013 exclusively, perfectly \u2013<br \/>\nThyself, infinitely, eternally\u2026very simply.\u201d&nbsp;<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" align=\"center\" style='margin:0;text-align:center;line-height:150%'>\n<span lang=\"EN-GB\" style='font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>Page \u2013 111<\/span><\/p>\n<div class=\"MsoNormal\" align=\"center\" style='text-align:center'><span lang=\"EN-GB\" style='color:blue'><\/p>\n<hr size=\"2\" width=\"100%\" align=\"center\">\n<p><\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" align=\"right\" style=\"line-height: 150%;margin: 0\"> <span style=\"font-family: Times New Roman;color: #0000FF;font-weight: 700\"><br \/>\n  <font size=\"2\"><br \/>\n<a href=\"\/index.php\/02-works-of-the-mother\/01-cwmce\/09-questions-and-answers-volume-09\/00-Contents-Vol-09-questions-and-answers-volume-09\" style=\"text-decoration: none\">Home<\/a><\/font><\/span><\/p>\n<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<\/table>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>1 May 1957 &nbsp; \u201cIn the admission of an activity such as sports and physical exercises into the life of the Ashram it is evident&#8230;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[120],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-4251","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-09-questions-and-answers-volume-09","wpcat-120-id"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/worksofthemotherandsriaurobindo.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/4251","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/worksofthemotherandsriaurobindo.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/worksofthemotherandsriaurobindo.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/worksofthemotherandsriaurobindo.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/worksofthemotherandsriaurobindo.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=4251"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/worksofthemotherandsriaurobindo.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/4251\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/worksofthemotherandsriaurobindo.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=4251"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/worksofthemotherandsriaurobindo.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=4251"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/worksofthemotherandsriaurobindo.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=4251"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}