{"id":4318,"date":"2013-07-13T01:55:09","date_gmt":"2013-07-13T01:55:09","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/localhost\/?p=4318"},"modified":"2013-07-13T01:55:09","modified_gmt":"2013-07-13T01:55:09","slug":"11-jnana-62-66-81-vol-10-on-thoughts-and-aphorisms-volume-10","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/worksofthemotherandsriaurobindo.org\/index.php\/02-works-of-the-mother\/01-cwmce\/10-on-thoughts-and-aphorisms-volume-10\/11-jnana-62-66-81-vol-10-on-thoughts-and-aphorisms-volume-10","title":{"rendered":"-11_jnana-62-66_81.htm"},"content":{"rendered":"<table border=\"0\" cellpadding=\"6\" style=\"border-collapse: collapse\" width=\"100%\">\n<tr>\n<td>\n<div class=\"Section1\">\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'>\n<span lang=\"EN-US\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\";font-style:italic'>81 \u2013 God&#8217;s laughter is sometimes very coarse and unfit for polite ears;<br \/>\nHe is not satisfied with being Moli\u00e8re, He must needs also be Aristophanes and<br \/>\nRabelais. <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'>\n<span lang=\"EN-US\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\";font-style:italic'>&nbsp;<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'>\n<span lang=\"EN-US\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\";font-style:italic'>82 \u2013 If men took life less seriously, they could very soon make it more perfect.<br \/>\nGod never takes His works seriously; therefore one looks out on this wonderful<br \/>\nUniverse.<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'>\n<span lang=\"EN-US\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\";font-style:italic'>&nbsp;<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'>\n<span lang=\"EN-US\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\";font-style:italic'>83 \u2013 Shame has admirable results and both in aesthetics and in morality<br \/>\nwe could ill spare it; but for all that it is a badge of weakness and the proof<br \/>\nof ignorance. <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-US\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>&nbsp;<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><i><span lang=\"EN-US\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>One might ask how taking things seriously has prevented life from being<br \/>\nmore perfect. <\/span><\/i><span lang=\"EN-US\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-US\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>&nbsp;<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-US\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>Virtue has always spent its time<br \/>\neliminating whatever it found bad in life, and if all the virtues of the<br \/>\nvarious countries of the world had been put together, very few things would<br \/>\nremain in existence. <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;text-indent:.25in;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-US\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>Virtue claims to seek perfection, but<br \/>\nperfection is a totality. So the two movements contradict each other. A virtue<br \/>\nthat eliminates, reduces, fixes limits, and a perfection that accepts<br \/>\neverything, rejects nothing but puts each thing in its place, obviously cannot<br \/>\nagree. <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;text-indent:.25in;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-US\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>Taking life seriously generally consists<br \/>\nof two movements: the first one is to give importance to things that probably<br \/>\nhave none, and the second is to want life to be reduced to a certain number of<br \/>\nqualities that are considered pure and worthy of existence. In some people \u2013<br \/>\nfor example, those Sri Aurobindo speaks about here, the \u201cpolite\u201d or the<br \/>\npuritans \u2013 this virtue becomes dry, arid, grey, aggressive and it finds fault<br \/>\neverywhere, in everything that is joyful and free and happy. <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;text-indent:.25in;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-US\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>The only way to make life perfect \u2013 I mean<br \/>\nhere, life on earth, of course \u2013 is to look at it from high enough to see it as<br \/>\na whole, not only in its present totality, but in the whole of the past,<br \/>\npresent and future: what it has been, what it is and what it will be \u2013 one must<br \/>\nbe able to see everything at once. Because that is the only way to put<br \/>\neverything in its place. Nothing can be eliminated, nothing should be<br \/>\neliminated, but each thing must be in its place in total harmony with all the<br \/>\nrest. And then all these things that seem so bad, so reprehensible, so<br \/>\nunacceptable to the puritan mind, would become movements<br \/>\n&nbsp;<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" align=\"center\" style='margin:0;text-align:center;line-height:150%'>\n<span lang=\"EN-US\" style='font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>Page &#8211; 157<\/span><\/p>\n<div class=\"MsoNormal\" align=\"center\" style='text-align:center'><span lang=\"EN-US\"><\/p>\n<hr size=\"2\" width=\"100%\" align=\"center\">\n<p><\/span><\/div>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-US\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>of delight and freedom in a totally divine<br \/>\nlife. And then nothing would prevent us from knowing, understanding, feeling<br \/>\nand living this wonderful laughter of the Supreme who takes infinite delight in<br \/>\nwatching Himself live infinitely. <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;text-indent:.25in;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-US\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>This delight, this wonderful laughter that<br \/>\ndissolves every shadow, every pain, every suffering! You only have to go deep<br \/>\nenough within yourself to find the inner Sun, to let yourself be flooded by it;<br \/>\nand then there is nothing but a cascade of harmonious, luminous, sunlit<br \/>\nlaughter, which leaves no room for any shadow or pain. <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;text-indent:.25in;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-US\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>In fact, even the greatest difficulties,<br \/>\neven the greatest sorrows, even the greatest physical pain \u2013 if you can look at<br \/>\nthem from that standpoint, from there, you see the unreality of the difficulty,<br \/>\nthe unreality of the sorrow, the unreality of the pain \u2013 and there is nothing<br \/>\nbut a joyful and luminous vibration. <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;text-indent:.25in;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-US\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>In fact, this is the most powerful way of<br \/>\ndissolving difficulties, overcoming sorrows and removing pain. The first two<br \/>\nare relatively easy \u2013 I say relatively \u2013 the last one is more difficult because<br \/>\nwe are in the habit of considering the body and its feelings to be extremely<br \/>\nconcrete, positive; but it is the same thing, it is simply because we have not<br \/>\nlearnt, we are not in the habit of regarding our body as something fluid,<br \/>\nplastic, uncertain, malleable. We have not learnt to bring into it this<br \/>\nluminous laughter that dissolves all darkness, all difficulty, all discord, all<br \/>\ndisharmony, everything that jars, that weeps and wails. <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;text-indent:.25in;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-US\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>And this Sun, this Sun of divine laughter<br \/>\nis at the centre of all things, the truth of all things: we must learn to see<br \/>\nit, to feel it, to live it. <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;text-indent:.25in;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-US\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>And for that, let us avoid people who take<br \/>\nlife seriously; they are very boring people. <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;text-indent:.25in;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-US\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>As soon as the atmosphere becomes grave<br \/>\nyou can be sure that something is wrong, that there is a troubling influence,<br \/>\nan old habit trying to reassert itself, which should not be accepted. All this<br \/>\nregret, all this remorse, the feeling of being unworthy, of being at fault \u2013<br \/>\nand then one step further and you have the<\/span><span lang=\"EN-US\" style='font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>&nbsp;<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" align=\"center\" style='margin:0;text-align:center;line-height:150%'>\n<span lang=\"EN-US\" style='font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>Page &#8211; 158<\/span><\/p>\n<div class=\"MsoNormal\" align=\"center\" style='text-align:center'><span lang=\"EN-US\" style='font-size:10.0pt;color:blue'><\/p>\n<hr size=\"2\" width=\"100%\" align=\"center\">\n<p><\/span><\/div>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-US\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>sense of sin. Oh! To me it all seems to belong<br \/>\nto another age, an age of darkness. <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;text-indent:.25in;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-US\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>But everything that persists, that tries<br \/>\nto cling and endure, all these prohibitions and this habit of cutting life in<br \/>\ntwo \u2013 into small things and big things, the sacred and the profane\u2026 What! say<br \/>\nthe people who profess to follow a spiritual life, how can you make such little<br \/>\nthings, such insignificant things the object of spiritual experience? And yet<br \/>\nthis is an experience that becomes more and more concrete and real, even<br \/>\nmaterially; it&#8217;s not that there are some things where the Lord is and some<br \/>\nthings where He is not. The Lord is always there. He takes nothing seriously,<br \/>\neverything amuses Him and He plays with you, if you know how to play. You do<br \/>\nnot know how to play, people do not know how to play. But how well He knows how<br \/>\nto play! How well He plays! With everything, with the smallest things: you have<br \/>\nsome things to put on the table? Don&#8217;t feel that you have to think and arrange,<br \/>\nno, let&#8217;s play: let&#8217;s put this one here and that one there, and this one like<br \/>\nthat. And then another time it&#8217;s different again\u2026 What a good game and such<br \/>\nfun! <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;text-indent:.25in;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-US\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>So, it is agreed, we shall try to learn<br \/>\nhow to laugh with the Lord. <span>\u00a0<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" align=\"right\" style='margin:0;text-align:right;line-height:150%'><i><font size=\"2\"><br \/>\n<span lang=\"EN-US\" style='font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>14 January 1963 <\/span><br \/>\n<\/font> <\/i><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-US\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>&nbsp;<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'>\n<span lang=\"EN-US\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\";font-style:italic'><a name=\"84\">84<\/a> \u2013 The supernatural is that the nature of which we have not attained<br \/>\nor do not yet know, or the means of which we have not yet conquered. The common<br \/>\ntaste for miracles is the sign that man&#8217;s ascent is not yet finished. <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'>\n<span lang=\"EN-US\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\";font-style:italic'>&nbsp;<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'>\n<span lang=\"EN-US\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\";font-style:italic'>85 \u2013 It is rationality and prudence to distrust the supernatural; but to<br \/>\nbelieve in it is also a sort of wisdom. <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'>\n<span lang=\"EN-US\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\";font-style:italic'>&nbsp;<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'>\n<span lang=\"EN-US\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\";font-style:italic'>86 \u2013 Great saints have performed miracles; greater<\/span><span lang=\"EN-US\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>&nbsp;<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" align=\"center\" style='margin:0;text-align:center;line-height:150%'>\n<span lang=\"EN-US\" style='font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>Page &#8211; 159<\/span><\/p>\n<div class=\"MsoNormal\" align=\"center\" style='text-align:center'><span lang=\"EN-US\" style='font-size:10.0pt;color:blue'><\/p>\n<hr size=\"2\" width=\"100%\" align=\"center\">\n<p><\/span><\/div>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'>\n<span lang=\"EN-US\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\";font-style:italic'>saints have railed at them; the greatest have both railed at them and<br \/>\nperformed them. <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'>\n<span lang=\"EN-US\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\";font-style:italic'>&nbsp;<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'>\n<span lang=\"EN-US\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\";font-style:italic'>87 \u2013 Open thy eyes and see what the world really is and what God; have<br \/>\ndone with vain and pleasant imaginations. <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-US\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>&nbsp;<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><i><span lang=\"EN-US\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>Why didn&#8217;t you or Sri Aurobindo make a greater use of miracles as a<br \/>\nmeans of overcoming resistance in the external human consciousness? Why this<br \/>\nkind of self-effacement where outer things are concerned, this non-intervention<br \/>\nor discretion? <\/span><\/i><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-US\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>&nbsp;<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-US\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>As for Sri Aurobindo, I only know what he<br \/>\ntold me several times. People give the name of miracle only to interventions in<br \/>\nthe material or the vital world. And these interventions are always mixed with<br \/>\nignorant and arbitrary movements. <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;text-indent:.25in;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-US\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>But the number of miracles that Sri<br \/>\nAurobindo performed in the mind is incalculable; but naturally you could only<br \/>\nsee it if you had a very straight, very sincere, very pure vision \u2013 a few<br \/>\npeople did see it. But he refused \u2013 this I know \u2013 he refused to perform any<br \/>\nvital or material miracles, because of this mixture. <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;text-indent:.25in;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-US\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>My experience is that in the present state<br \/>\nof the world, a direct miracle, material or vital, must necessarily take into<br \/>\naccount a great many elements of falsehood that are unacceptable \u2013 they are necessarily<br \/>\nmiracles of falsehood. And they are unacceptable. I have seen what people call<br \/>\nmiracles; I saw many of them at one period, but this gave a right of existence<br \/>\nto many things which to me are not acceptable. <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;text-indent:.25in;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-US\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>What men call miracles nowadays are almost<br \/>\nalways performed by vital beings or by men who are in contact with vital<br \/>\nbeings, and this is a mixture accepts the reality of certain things, the truth<br \/>\nof certain things that are not true. And this is the basis on which it works.<br \/>\nSo that is unacceptable.<br \/>\n&nbsp;<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" align=\"center\" style='margin:0;text-align:center;line-height:150%'>\n<span lang=\"EN-US\" style='font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>Page &#8211; 160<\/span><\/p>\n<div class=\"MsoNormal\" align=\"center\" style='text-align:center'><span lang=\"EN-US\" style='font-size:10.0pt;color:blue'><\/p>\n<hr size=\"2\" width=\"100%\" align=\"center\">\n<p><\/span><\/div>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><i><span lang=\"EN-US\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>I did not quite understand what you meant by saying that Sri Aurobindo<br \/>\nperformed miracles in the mind. <\/span><\/i><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><i><span lang=\"EN-US\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>&nbsp;<\/span><\/i><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-US\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>I mean that he used to introduce the<br \/>\nsupramental force into the mental consciousness. Into the mental consciousness,<br \/>\nthe mental consciousness that governs all material movements, he would<br \/>\nintroduce a supramental formation or power or force which immediately changed<br \/>\nthe organisation. This produces immediate effects which seem illogical because<br \/>\nthey do not follow the normal course of movements according to mental logic. <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;text-indent:.25in;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-US\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>He himself used to say that when he was in<br \/>\npossession of the supramental power, when he could use it at will and focus it<br \/>\non a specific point with a definite purpose, it was irrevocable, inevitable:<br \/>\nthe effect was absolute. That can be called a miracle. <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;text-indent:.25in;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-US\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>For example, take someone who was sick or<br \/>\nin pain; when Sri Aurobindo was in possession of this supramental power \u2013 there<br \/>\nwas a time when he said that it was completely under his control, that is, he<br \/>\ncould do what he wanted with it, he could apply it where he liked \u2013 then he<br \/>\nwould apply this Will, for example, to some disorder, either physical or vital<br \/>\nor, of course, mental \u2013 he would apply this force of greater harmony, of<br \/>\ngreater order, this supramental force, and focus it there, and it would act<br \/>\nimmediately. And it was an order: it created an order, a harmony greater than<br \/>\nthe natural harmony. That is, if it was a case of healing, for example, the<br \/>\nhealing would be more perfect and more complete than any obtained by ordinary<br \/>\nphysical and mental methods. <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;text-indent:.25in;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-US\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>There were a great many of them. But<br \/>\npeople are so blind, so embedded in their ordinary consciousness that they<br \/>\nalways give explanations, they can always give an explanation. Only those who<br \/>\nhave faith and aspiration and something very pure in themselves, that is, who<br \/>\ntruly want to know, they were able to perceive it. <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;text-indent:.25in;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-US\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>When the Power was there, he even used to<br \/>\nsay that it was&nbsp;<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" align=\"center\" style='margin:0;text-align:center;line-height:150%'>\n<span lang=\"EN-US\" style='font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>Page &#8211; 161<\/span><\/p>\n<div class=\"MsoNormal\" align=\"center\" style='text-align:center'><span lang=\"EN-US\" style='font-size:10.0pt;color:blue'><\/p>\n<hr size=\"2\" width=\"100%\" align=\"center\">\n<p><\/span><\/div>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-US\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>effortless; all he had to do was to apply<br \/>\nthis supramental power of order and harmony and instantly the desired result<br \/>\nwas achieved. <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-US\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>&nbsp;<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><i><span lang=\"EN-US\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>What is a miracle? Because Sri Aurobindo often said that there are no<br \/>\nmiracles and, at the same time he says in Savitri, for example: All&#8217;s miracle<br \/>\nhere and can by miracle change. <\/span><\/i><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><i><span lang=\"EN-US\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>&nbsp;<\/span><\/i><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-US\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>That depends on how you look at it, from<br \/>\nthis side or that. <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;text-indent:.25in;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-US\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>You give the name of miracle only to<br \/>\nthings which cannot be clearly explained or for which you have no mental<br \/>\nexplanation. From this point of view you can say that countless things that<br \/>\nhappen are miracles, because you cannot explain the how or the why of them. <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-US\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>&nbsp;<i><\/i><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;text-indent:.5in;line-height:150%'><i><span lang=\"EN-US\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>What would be a true miracle? <\/span><\/i><span lang=\"EN-US\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-US\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>&nbsp;<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-US\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>I can&#8217;t see what a true miracle can be<br \/>\nbecause, after all, what is a miracle? A true miracle\u2026 Only the mind has the notion<br \/>\nof miracles; because the mind decides, by its own logic, that given this and<br \/>\nthat, another thing can or cannot be. But this represents all the limitations<br \/>\nof the mind. Because, from the point of view of the Lord, how can there be a<br \/>\nmiracle? Everything is Himself which He objectifies. <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;text-indent:.25in;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-US\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>So here we come to the great problem of<br \/>\nthe way which is being followed, the eternal way, as Sri Aurobindo explains it<br \/>\nin Savitri. Of course, one can conceive that what was objectified first was<br \/>\nsomething which had an inclination for objectivisation. The first thing to<br \/>\nrecognise, which seems consistent with the principle of evolution, is that the<br \/>\nobjectivisation is progressive, it is not total for all eternity\u2026<span>\u00a0 <\/span>(<i>Silence<\/i>)<br \/>\nIt is very difficult to tell, because we cannot get out of our habit of<br \/>\nconceiving that there is a definite quantity unfolding indefinitely and that<br \/>\nthere can <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-US\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>&nbsp;<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;text-indent:.25in;line-height:150%'>\n<span lang=\"EN-US\" style='font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'><font size=\"2\">\u00b9 <\/font> <\/span><span lang=\"EN-US\" style='font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'><font size=\"2\">Savitri, cent. Vol, 18, p. 85<\/font><\/span><span lang=\"EN-US\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>&nbsp;<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" align=\"center\" style='margin:0;text-align:center;line-height:150%'>\n<span lang=\"EN-US\" style='font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>Page &#8211; 162<\/span><\/p>\n<div class=\"MsoNormal\" align=\"center\" style='text-align:center'><span lang=\"EN-US\" style='font-size:10.0pt;color:blue'><\/p>\n<hr size=\"2\" width=\"100%\" align=\"center\">\n<p><\/span><\/div>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-US\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>only be a beginning if there is a definite<br \/>\nquantity. We always have, at least in our way of speaking, the idea of a moment<br \/>\n(<i>laughing<\/i>) when the Lord decides to<br \/>\nobjectify Himself. Like this, the explanation becomes easy: He objectifies<br \/>\nHimself gradually, progressively, and this results in a progressive evolution.<br \/>\nBut that is only a manner of speaking; because there is no beginning, there is<br \/>\nno end, and yet there is a progression. The sense of succession, the sense of<br \/>\nevolution, the sense of progress only exists with the manifestation. It is only<br \/>\nwhen one speaks of the earth that one can give an explanation that is both very<br \/>\nrational and in accord with the facts, because the earth has a beginning, not<br \/>\nin its soul but in its material reality. <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;text-indent:.25in;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-US\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>It is also likely that a material universe<br \/>\nhas a beginning. &nbsp;<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" align=\"center\" style='margin:0;text-align:center;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-US\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>(<i>Silence<\/i>)<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-US\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>&nbsp;<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;text-indent:.25in;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-US\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>If you look at it this way, for a universe<br \/>\na miracle would be the sudden intrusion of something from another universe. And<br \/>\nfor the earth, this reduces the problem to something very understandable \u2013 a<br \/>\nmiracle is the sudden intrusion of something which did not belong to the earth:<br \/>\nit produces a radical and immediate change by introducing a principle which did<br \/>\nnot belong to this physical world of earth. <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;text-indent:.25in;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-US\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>But there again, it is said that at the<br \/>\nvery centre of each element <i>everything<br \/>\nexists<\/i> in principle; so even that miracle is not possible. <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;text-indent:.25in;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-US\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>One could say that the sense of miracle<br \/>\nbelongs only to a finite world, a finite consciousness, a finite conception. It<br \/>\nis the sudden entry \u2013 the intrusion, the intervention, the penetration \u2013<br \/>\nwithout preparation, of something which did not exist in this physical world.<br \/>\nSo obviously, any manifestation of a will or a consciousness which belongs to a<br \/>\ndomain that is more infinite and more eternal than earth, is necessarily a<br \/>\nmiracle on earth. But if you leave the finite world, the understanding of the<br \/>\nfinite world, miracles do not exist. The Lord can play at miracles if<\/span><span lang=\"EN-US\" style='font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>&nbsp;<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" align=\"center\" style='margin:0;text-align:center;line-height:150%'>\n<span lang=\"EN-US\" style='font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>Page &#8211; 163<\/span><\/p>\n<div class=\"MsoNormal\" align=\"center\" style='text-align:center'><span lang=\"EN-US\" style='font-size:10.0pt;color:blue'><\/p>\n<hr size=\"2\" width=\"100%\" align=\"center\">\n<p><\/span><\/div>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-US\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>it so amuses Him, but there are no<br \/>\nmiracles \u2013 He plays every possible game.<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;text-indent:.25in;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-US\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>You can begin to understand Him only when<br \/>\nyou<span>\u00a0 <\/span>feel in this way, that He plays<br \/>\nevery possible game, and \u201cpossible\u201d does not mean possible according to the<br \/>\nhuman conception, but possible according to His own conception! <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;text-indent:.25in;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-US\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>And there, there is no room for miracles \u2013<br \/>\nexcept that it looks like a miracle. <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-US\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'><span>\u00a0<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" align=\"center\" style='margin:0;text-align:center;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-US\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>(<i>Silence<\/i>)<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'>\n<span lang=\"EN-US\" style='font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'><span><br \/>\n<font size=\"3\">\u00a0<\/font><\/span><span><font size=\"3\">\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 <\/font> <\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;text-indent:.25in;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-US\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>If, instead of a slow evolution, something<br \/>\nbelonging to the supramental world appeared suddenly, man, the mental being,<br \/>\ncould call that a miracle, because it would be the intervention of something<br \/>\nwhich he does not consciously carry within himself and which intervenes in his<br \/>\nconscious life. And in fact, if you consider this taste for miracles, which is<br \/>\nvery strong \u2013 much stronger in children and in hearts that have remained<br \/>\nchildlike than in highly mentalised individuals \u2013 it is a faith in the<br \/>\nrealisation of the aspiration for the marvellous, of something higher than<br \/>\nanything one can expect from normal life. <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;text-indent:.25in;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-US\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>Indeed, in education, both tendencies<br \/>\nshould be encouraged side by side: the tendency to thirst for the marvellous,<br \/>\nfor what seems unrealisable, for something which fills you with the feeling of<br \/>\ndivinity; while at the same time encouraging exact, correct, sincere<br \/>\nobservation in the perception of the world as it is, the suppression of all<br \/>\nimagination, a constant control, a highly practical and meticulous sense for<br \/>\nexact details. Both should go side by side. Usually, you kill the one with the<br \/>\nidea that this is necessary in order to foster the other \u2013 this is completely<br \/>\nwrong. Both can be simultaneous and there comes a time when one has enough<br \/>\nknowledge to know that they are the two aspects of the same thing: insight, a<br \/>\nhigher discernment. But instead of a narrow, limited insight and discernment,<br \/>\nthe discernment becomes entirely sincere, correct, exact, but it is vast, it<br \/>\nincludes a whole<br \/>\n&nbsp;<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" align=\"center\" style='margin:0;text-align:center;line-height:150%'>\n<span lang=\"EN-US\" style='font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>Page &#8211; 164<\/span><\/p>\n<div class=\"MsoNormal\" align=\"center\" style='text-align:center'><span lang=\"EN-US\" style='font-size:10.0pt;color:blue'><\/p>\n<hr size=\"2\" width=\"100%\" align=\"center\">\n<p><\/span><\/div>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-US\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>domain that does not yet belong to the<br \/>\nconcrete manifestation. <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;text-indent:.25in;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-US\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>From the point of view of education, this<br \/>\nwould be very important: to see the world as it is, exactly, unadorned, in the<br \/>\nmost down-to-earth and concrete manner; and to see the world as it can be, with<br \/>\nthe freest, highest vision, the one most full of hope and aspiration and<br \/>\nmarvellous certitude \u2013 as the two poles of discernment. <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;text-indent:.25in;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-US\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>The most splendid, most marvellous, most<br \/>\npowerful, most expressive, most total things we can imagine are nothing<br \/>\ncompared to what they can be; and at the same time our meticulous exactitude in<br \/>\nthe tiniest detail is never exact enough. And both must go together. When one<br \/>\nknows this (<i>down ward gesture<\/i>) and<br \/>\nwhen one knows that (<i>upward gesture<\/i>),<br \/>\none is able to put the two together. <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;text-indent:.25in;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-US\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>And this is the best possible use of the<br \/>\nneed for miracles. The need for miracles is a gesture of ignorance: \u201cOh, I<br \/>\nwould like things to be like this!\u201d It is a gesture of ignorance and impotence.<br \/>\nAnd those who say, You live in a miracle, know only the lower end \u2013 and even<br \/>\nthen they know it only imperfectly \u2013 and they have no contact with anything<br \/>\nelse. <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;text-indent:.25in;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-US\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>This need for miracles must be changed<br \/>\ninto a conscious aspiration for something \u2013 which is already there, which<br \/>\nexists which will be manifested <i>by the<br \/>\nhelp<\/i> of all these aspirations; all these aspirations are necessary or, if<br \/>\none looks at it in a truer way, they are an accompanyment \u2013 an agreeable<br \/>\naccompaniment \u2013 in the eternal unfolding. <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;text-indent:.25in;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-US\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>Of course, people with a very strict logic<br \/>\ntell you, \u201cWhy pray? Why aspire? Why ask? The Lord does what He wants and He<br \/>\nwill do what He wants.\u201d It is quite obvious, there is no need to say it, but<br \/>\nthis impulse: \u201cO Lord, manifest!\u201d gives a more intense vibration to His<br \/>\nmanifestation. <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;text-indent:.25in;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-US\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>Otherwise, He would never have made the<br \/>\nworld as it is. There is a special power, a special delight, a special<br \/>\nvibration in the intensity of the world&#8217;s aspiration to become once more what<br \/>\nit is.&nbsp;<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" align=\"center\" style='margin:0;text-align:center;line-height:150%'>\n<span lang=\"EN-US\" style='font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>Page &#8211; 165<\/span><\/p>\n<div class=\"MsoNormal\" align=\"center\" style='text-align:center'><span lang=\"EN-US\" style='font-size:10.0pt;color:blue'><\/p>\n<hr size=\"2\" width=\"100%\" align=\"center\">\n<p><\/span><\/div>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;text-indent:.25in;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-US\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>And that is why \u2013 partly, fragmentarily \u2013<br \/>\nthere is an evolution. <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;text-indent:.25in;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-US\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>An eternally perfect universe, eternally<br \/>\nmanifesting the eternal perfection, would lack the joy of progress.<br \/>\n<span>\u00a0<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" align=\"right\" style='margin:0;text-align:right;line-height:150%'><i><br \/>\n<span lang=\"EN-US\" style='font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'><font size=\"2\">6 March 1963<\/font><\/span><\/i><i><span lang=\"EN-US\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'><\/span><\/i><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-US\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>&nbsp;<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'>\n<span lang=\"EN-US\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\";font-style:italic'><a name=\"88\">88<\/a> \u2013 This world was built by Death that he might live. Wilt thou abolish<br \/>\ndeath? Then life too will perish. Thou canst not abolish death, but thou mayst<br \/>\ntransform it into a greater living. <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'>\n<span lang=\"EN-US\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\";font-style:italic'>&nbsp;<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'>\n<span lang=\"EN-US\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\";font-style:italic'>89 \u2013 This world was built by Cruelty that she might love. Wilt thou<br \/>\nabolish cruelty? Then love too will perish. Thou canst not abolish cruelty, but<br \/>\nthou mayst transfigure it into its opposite, into a fierce Love and<br \/>\nDelightfulness. <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'>\n<span lang=\"EN-US\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\";font-style:italic'>&nbsp;<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'>\n<span lang=\"EN-US\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\";font-style:italic'>90 \u2013 This world was built by Ignorance and Error that they might know.<br \/>\nWilt thou abolish ignorance and error? Then knowledge too will perish. Thou<br \/>\ncanst not abolish ignorance and error, but thou mayst transmute them into the<br \/>\nutter and effulgent exceeding of reason. <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'>\n<span lang=\"EN-US\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\";font-style:italic'>&nbsp;<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'>\n<span lang=\"EN-US\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\";font-style:italic'>&nbsp;91 \u2013 If Life alone were and not death, there could be no<br \/>\nimmortality; if love were alone and not cruelty, joy would be only a tepid and<br \/>\nephemeral rapture; if reason were alone and not ignorance, our highest<br \/>\nattainment would not exceed a limited rationality and worldly wisdom. <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'>\n<span lang=\"EN-US\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\";font-style:italic'>&nbsp;<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'>\n<span lang=\"EN-US\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\";font-style:italic'>92 \u2013 Death transformed becomes Life that is Immortality; Cruelty<br \/>\ntransfigured becomes Love that is intolerable ecstasy; Ignorance transmuted<br \/>\nbecomes Light that leaps beyond wisdom and knowledge.<\/span><span lang=\"EN-US\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\";font-style:italic'>&nbsp;<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" align=\"center\" style='margin:0;text-align:center;line-height:150%'>\n<span lang=\"EN-US\" style='font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>Page &#8211; 166<\/span><\/p>\n<div class=\"MsoNormal\" align=\"center\" style='text-align:center'><span lang=\"EN-US\" style='font-size:10.0pt;color:blue'><\/p>\n<hr size=\"2\" width=\"100%\" align=\"center\">\n<p><\/span><\/div>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-US\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>It is the same idea, that is, opposition<br \/>\nand contraries are a stimulus to progress. Because to say that without cruelty<br \/>\nLove would be tepid\u2026 The principle of Love as it exists beyond the Manifested<br \/>\nand the Non-Manifested has nothing to do with either tepidness or cruelty.<br \/>\nOnly, Sri Aurobindo&#8217;s idea would seem to be that opposites are the quickest and<br \/>\nmost effective means of shaping Matter so that it can intensify its<br \/>\nmanifestation. <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;text-indent:.25in;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-US\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>As an experience, this is absolutely<br \/>\ncertain, in the sense that, first of all, when one comes into contact with<br \/>\neternal Love, the supreme Love, one immediately has \u2013 how to put it? \u2013 a<br \/>\nperception, a sensation \u2013 it is not an understanding, it is something very<br \/>\nconcrete: even the most illumined material consciousness, however much it has<br \/>\nbeen moulded and prepared, is<span>\u00a0 <\/span>incapable<br \/>\nof manifesting That. The first thing one feels is this kind of incapacity. Then<br \/>\ncomes an experience: something which manifests a form \u2013 of one cannot call it<br \/>\nexactly cruelty, because it is not cruelty as we know it \u2013 but within the totality<br \/>\nof circumstances, a vibration appears and, with a certain intensity, refuses<br \/>\nlove as it is manifested here. It is precisely this: something in the material<br \/>\nworld which refuses the manifestation of love as it exists at present. I am not<br \/>\nspeaking of the ordinary world, I am speaking of the present consciousness at<br \/>\nits highest. It is an experience, I am speaking of something that has happened.<br \/>\nSo the part of the consciousness which has been struck by this opposition makes<br \/>\na direct appeal to the origin of Love, <i>with<br \/>\nan intensity which it would not have without the experience of this refusal<\/i>.<br \/>\nLimits are broken and a flood pours down which could not have manifested<br \/>\nbefore; and something is expressed which was not expressed before. <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;text-indent:.25in;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-US\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>When one sees this, there is obviously a<br \/>\nsimilar experience from the point of view of what we call life and death. It is<br \/>\nthis kind of constant brooding or presence of Death and the possibility of<br \/>\ndeath, as it is said in <i>Savitri<\/i>: we<br \/>\nhave a constant companion throughout the journey from cradle to grave; we are<br \/>\nconstantly accompanied by this threat or presence of Death. Well,<br \/>\n&nbsp;<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" align=\"center\" style='margin:0;text-align:center;line-height:150%'>\n<span lang=\"EN-US\" style='font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>Page &#8211; 167<\/span><\/p>\n<div class=\"MsoNormal\" align=\"center\" style='text-align:center'><span lang=\"EN-US\" style='font-size:10.0pt;color:blue'><\/p>\n<hr size=\"2\" width=\"100%\" align=\"center\">\n<p><\/span><\/div>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-US\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>along with this, in the cells, there is a<br \/>\ncall for a Power of Eternity, with an intensity which would not be there except<br \/>\nfor this constant threat. Then one understands, one begins to feel quite<br \/>\nconcretely that all these things are only ways of intensifying the<br \/>\nmanifestation, of making it progress, of making it more perfect. And if the<br \/>\nmeans are crude, it is because the manifestation itself is very crude. And as<br \/>\nit becomes more perfect and fit to manifest that which is <i>eternally progressive<\/i>, the very crude means will give way to<br \/>\nsubtler ones and the world will progress without any need for such brutal<br \/>\noppositions. This is simply because the world is still in its infancy and human<br \/>\nconsciousness is still entirely in its infancy. <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;text-indent:.25in;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-US\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>This is a very concrete experience. <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;text-indent:.25in;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-US\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>It follows that when the earth no longer<br \/>\nneeds to die in order to progress, there will be no more death. When the earth<br \/>\nno longer needs to suffer in order to progress, there will be no more<br \/>\nsuffering. And when the earth no longer needs to hate in order to love, there<br \/>\nwill be no more hatred. <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-US\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>&nbsp;<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" align=\"center\" style='margin:0;text-align:center;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-US\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>(<i>Silence<\/i>)<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-US\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>&nbsp;<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;text-indent:.25in;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-US\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>This is the quickest and most effective means<br \/>\nto bring creation out of its inertia and lead it towards its fulfilment. <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;text-indent:.25in;line-height:150%'>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" align=\"center\" style='margin:0;text-align:center;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-US\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>(<i>Long<br \/>\nsilence<\/i>)<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-US\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'><span>\u00a0<\/span><span>\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 <\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;text-indent:.25in;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-US\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>There is a certain aspect of creation \u2013<br \/>\nwhich may be a very modern one \u2013 it is the need to escape from disorder and<br \/>\nconfusion, from disharmony and confusion: a confusion, a disorder which takes<br \/>\nevery possible form, which becomes struggle, useless effort, wastage. It<br \/>\ndepends on the domain you are in, but in the material world, in action, it<br \/>\nmeans useless complications, waste of energy and material, waste of time,<br \/>\nincomprehension, misunderstanding, confusion, disorder. This is what used to be<br \/>\ncalled crookedness in the Vedas \u2013 I do not know the equivalent <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" align=\"center\" style='margin:0;text-align:center;line-height:150%'>\n<span lang=\"EN-US\" style='font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>Page &#8211; 168<\/span><\/p>\n<div class=\"MsoNormal\" align=\"center\" style='text-align:center'><span lang=\"EN-US\" style='font-size:10.0pt;color:blue'><\/p>\n<hr size=\"2\" width=\"100%\" align=\"center\">\n<p><\/span><\/div>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-US\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>of this word, it is something twisted,<br \/>\nwhich instead of going straight to the mark makes sharp, unnecessary zigzags.<br \/>\nThis is one of the things that is most opposed to the harmony of a purely divine<br \/>\naction which has a simplicity\u2026 that seems childlike. Direct \u2013 direct, instead of<br \/>\nmaking absurd and completely useless circumvolutions. Well, it is obviously the<br \/>\nsame thing: disorder is a way of stimulating the need for the pure divine<br \/>\nsimplicity. <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;text-indent:.25in;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-US\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>The body feels very strongly, very<br \/>\nstrongly that everything could be simple, so simple! <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;text-indent:.25in;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-US\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>And so that the being \u2013 this kind of<br \/>\nindividual agglomerate \u2013 can be transformed, it needs precisely to become more<br \/>\nsimple, simple, simple. All these complications of Nature, which they are now<br \/>\nbeginning to understand and study, which are so intricate for the slightest<br \/>\nthing \u2013 the smallest of our functions is the result of a system so complicated<br \/>\nthat it is almost unthinkable; certainly it would be impossible for human<br \/>\nthought to plan and put together all these things \u2013 now science is discovering<br \/>\nthem, and one can see very clearly that if the functioning is to be divine,<br \/>\nthat is, if it is to escape this disorder and confusion, it must be simplified,<br \/>\nsimplified, simplified. &nbsp;<\/span><span lang=\"EN-US\" style='font-size:16.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\";color:blue'><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" align=\"center\" style='margin:0;text-align:center;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-US\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>(<i>Long<br \/>\nsilence<\/i>)<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-US\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>&nbsp;<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;text-indent:.25in;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-US\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>That is to say, Nature, or rather Nature<br \/>\nin her attempt at self-expression, was obliged to resort to an unbelievable and<br \/>\nalmost infinite complication in order to reproduce the primal Simplicity. <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;text-indent:.25in;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-US\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>And we come back to the same thing. From<br \/>\nthis excess of complication arises the possibility of a simplicity which would<br \/>\nnot be empty but full \u2013 a full simplicity, a simplicity that contains everything;<br \/>\nwhereas without these complications, simplicity is empty. <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;text-indent:.25in;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-US\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>Now they are making discoveries like that.<br \/>\nIn anatomy, for example, they are discovering surgical treatments which are un-&nbsp;<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" align=\"center\" style='margin:0;text-align:center;line-height:150%'>\n<span lang=\"EN-US\" style='font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>Page &#8211; 169<\/span><\/p>\n<div class=\"MsoNormal\" align=\"center\" style='text-align:center'><span lang=\"EN-US\" style='font-size:10.0pt;color:blue'><\/p>\n<hr size=\"2\" width=\"100%\" align=\"center\">\n<p><\/span><\/div>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-US\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>believably complicated! It is like their<br \/>\nclassification of the elements of Matter \u2013 what frightful complexity! And all<br \/>\nthis is for the purpose of\u2026 in an effort to express Unity, the one Simplicity \u2013<br \/>\nthe divine state. &nbsp;<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" align=\"center\" style='margin:0;text-align:center;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-US\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>(<i>Silence)<\/i><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-US\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>&nbsp;<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;text-indent:.25in;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-US\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>Perhaps it will go quickly\u2026 But the question<br \/>\ncomes to this an \u2013 aspiration that is <i>sufficient<\/i>,<br \/>\nintense and effective enough, to attract That which can transform complication<br \/>\ninto Simplicity, cruelty into Love, and so on. <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;text-indent:.25in;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-US\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>And it is no use complaining and saying<br \/>\nthat it is a pity, because it is like that. Why is it like that?\u2026 Probably,<br \/>\nwhen it is no longer like that, we shall know. We could put it another way: if<br \/>\nwe knew, it would no longer be like that. <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;text-indent:.25in;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-US\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>So, to speculate: \u201cIt would have been<br \/>\nbetter if it had not been like that, etc.\u201d \u2013 all that is unpractical, it is no<br \/>\nuse at all, it is useless. <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;text-indent:.25in;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-US\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>We must hurry up and do what is needed to<br \/>\nput an end to it, that is all; it is the only practical thing. <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;text-indent:.25in;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-US\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>For the body it is very interesting. But<br \/>\nit is a mountain, a mountain of experiences that seem very small, but because<br \/>\nof their multiplicity, they have their place.\u00b9 <span>\u00a0<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" align=\"right\" style='margin:0;text-align:right;line-height:150%'>\n<span style='font-family:Times New Roman' lang=\"EN-US\"><br \/>\n<font size=\"2\">\u00a0<\/font><\/span><i><font size=\"2\"><span lang=\"EN-US\" style='font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>15 May 1963 <\/span><\/font> <\/i><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" align=\"right\" style='margin:0;text-align:right;line-height:150%'>\n&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-US\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>&nbsp;<\/span><span lang=\"EN-US\" style='font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'><font size=\"2\">\u00b9 <\/font> <\/span><span lang=\"EN-US\" style='font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'><font size=\"2\">When this talk was first published, Mother remarked,<br \/>\n\u201cThe scientists will deny it, they will say that I am talking nonsense; but it<br \/>\nis because I do not use their terms, it is just a matter of vocabulary.\u201d<\/font><\/span><span lang=\"EN-US\" style='font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'><span><font size=\"2\">\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0<br \/>\n<\/font> <\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" align=\"center\" style='margin:0;text-align:center;line-height:150%'>\n<span lang=\"EN-US\" style='font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>Page &#8211; 170<\/span><\/p>\n<div class=\"MsoNormal\" align=\"center\" style='text-align:center'><span lang=\"EN-US\" style='font-size:10.0pt;color:blue'><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" align=\"right\" style=\"line-height: 150%;margin: 0\"> <span style=\"font-family: Times New Roman;color: #0000FF;font-weight: 700\" lang=\"en-us\"><br \/>\n  <font size=\"2\"><a href=\"\/index.php\/02-works-of-the-mother\/01-cwmce\/10-on-thoughts-and-aphorisms-volume-10\/00-Contents-Vol-10-on-thoughts-and-aphorisms-volume-10\"><span><\/a><\/font><\/span><\/p>\n<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<\/table>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>81 \u2013 God&#8217;s laughter is sometimes very coarse and unfit for polite ears; He is not satisfied with being Moli\u00e8re, He must needs also be&#8230;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[122],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-4318","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-10-on-thoughts-and-aphorisms-volume-10","wpcat-122-id"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/worksofthemotherandsriaurobindo.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/4318","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/worksofthemotherandsriaurobindo.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/worksofthemotherandsriaurobindo.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/worksofthemotherandsriaurobindo.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/worksofthemotherandsriaurobindo.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=4318"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/worksofthemotherandsriaurobindo.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/4318\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/worksofthemotherandsriaurobindo.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=4318"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/worksofthemotherandsriaurobindo.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=4318"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/worksofthemotherandsriaurobindo.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=4318"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}