{"id":4403,"date":"2013-07-13T01:55:45","date_gmt":"2013-07-13T01:55:45","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/localhost\/?p=4403"},"modified":"2013-07-13T01:55:45","modified_gmt":"2013-07-13T01:55:45","slug":"05-30-december-1950-vol-04-questions-and-answers-volume-04","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/worksofthemotherandsriaurobindo.org\/index.php\/02-works-of-the-mother\/01-cwmce\/04-questions-and-answers-volume-04\/05-30-december-1950-vol-04-questions-and-answers-volume-04","title":{"rendered":"-05_30 December 1950.htm"},"content":{"rendered":"<table border=\"0\" cellpadding=\"6\" style=\"border-collapse: collapse\" width=\"100%\">\n<tr>\n<td>\n<div class=\"Section1\">\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><b><br \/>\n<span style='font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'><br \/>\n<font size=\"3\">30<br \/>\n December 1950<\/font><\/span><\/b><b><span style='font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'><font size=\"3\"> <\/font><\/span><\/b><br \/>\n<b><br \/>\n<span style='font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'><br \/>\n<font size=\"3\">&nbsp;<\/font><\/span><\/b><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>&nbsp;<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><i><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>\u201cWe<br \/>\nare not aiming at success \u2013 our aim is perfection. <\/span><\/i><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><i><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>\u201cWe<br \/>\nare not seeking fame or reputation; we want to prepare ourselves for a Divine manifestation.\u201d<br \/>\n<\/span><\/i><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" align=\"right\" style='margin:0;text-align:right;line-height:150%'>\n<span style='font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'><font size=\"2\">\u201c<\/font><\/span><span style='font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'><font size=\"2\">Tournaments\u201d, On Education<\/font><\/span><font size=\"2\"><span style='font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'> <\/span><\/font> <span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>&nbsp;<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>What is perfection? <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;text-indent:.25in;line-height:150%'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>Some people put perfection at the apex. It<br \/>\nis generally thought that perfection is the maximum one can do. But I say that<br \/>\nperfection is not the apex, it is not an extreme. There is no extreme \u2013 whatever<br \/>\nyou may do, there is always the possibility of something better, and it is<br \/>\nexactly this possibility of something better which is the very meaning of<br \/>\nprogress. <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;text-indent:.25in;line-height:150%'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'><span>\u00a0<\/span>Since there is no extreme, how can we attain<br \/>\nperfection? <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>&nbsp;<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;text-indent:.5in;line-height:150%'><i><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>If we<br \/>\nmake some progress, could it be said that we are going towards perfection? <\/span><\/i><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><i><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>&nbsp;<\/span><\/i><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>You are mixing up perfection and progress. You do not necessarily<br \/>\nprogress towards perfection. In progress there is perhaps a certain perfection,<br \/>\nbut it can&#8217;t be said that progress is perfection. Progress is rather an ascent.<br \/>\n<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;text-indent:.25in;line-height:150%'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>Perfection is a harmony, an equilibrium. <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'><span>\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 \u00a0<\/span>But what is equilibrium? Who here has studied<br \/>\na little physics here? <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>&nbsp;<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><i><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>In a<br \/>\nbalance, when the two scales are equally loaded, it is said that an equilibrium<br \/>\nis established. <\/span><\/i><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><i><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>&nbsp;<\/span><\/i><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>That&#8217;s it. And so what do I mean when I say that perfection is an<br \/>\nequilibrium?&nbsp;<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" align=\"center\" style='margin:0;text-align:center;line-height:150%'>\n<span style='font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>Page &#8211; 14<\/span><\/p>\n<div class=\"MsoPlainText\" align=\"center\" style='text-align:center'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'><\/p>\n<hr size=\"2\" width=\"100%\" align=\"center\">\n<p><\/span><\/div>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><i><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>When,<br \/>\nin a given circumstance, what is against the realisation, that is to say the opposition,<br \/>\nis conquered by a conscious force, the result is the manifestation of the<br \/>\nrealisation. <\/span><\/i><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><i><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>&nbsp;<\/span><\/i><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>Yes, it is more or less like that, but I should put it otherwise. <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>&nbsp;<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><i><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>The<br \/>\nidea of perfection is something which comes to us from the Divine, it descends<br \/>\nfrom plane to plane; and we climb back from plane to plane. <\/span><\/i><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><i><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>&nbsp;<\/span><\/i><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>This is still an evolutionary idea. It is always said that when a<br \/>\ncreation reaches its maximum possibility, this is perfection; but it is not<br \/>\nthat! and it is exactly against this idea that I protest. All this is only a<br \/>\nrung in the progress. That is, Nature goes to the extreme limit of what she<br \/>\nhas, and when she sees that she can go no further, can no longer stir, she<br \/>\ndestroys everything and begins again. This can&#8217;t be called a perfection, for<br \/>\nperfection cannot be demolished. Perfection will come only when Nature can no<br \/>\nlonger undo what she has begun. For the moment there is no instance where she<br \/>\nhas not successively undone what she had begun, believing that it was not<br \/>\nenough or it was not that which she wanted to do. Hence it cannot be said that<br \/>\nshe has attained perfection in her creation. It would be the maximum only if<br \/>\nshe had no need to undo what she has done. <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>&nbsp;<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;text-indent:.5in;line-height:150%'><i><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>You<br \/>\nsay that we do not seek success, but is not success a sort of perfection? <\/span><\/i><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><i><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>&nbsp;<\/span><\/i><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>For the ordinary human mentality success is perhaps a perfection,<br \/>\nbut not for us. <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'><span>\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 <\/span>Perfection is not<br \/>\na static state, it is an equilibrium. But a progressive, dynamic equilibrium.<br \/>\nOne may go from perfection to perfection. There can come a state from which it<br \/>\nwould not be necessary to descend to a lower rung in order to go farther;&nbsp;<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" align=\"center\" style='margin:0;text-align:center;line-height:150%'>\n<span style='font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>Page &#8211; 15<\/span><\/p>\n<div class=\"MsoPlainText\" align=\"center\" style='text-align:center'><span style='font-family:\"Times New Roman\";color:blue'><\/p>\n<hr size=\"2\" width=\"100%\" align=\"center\">\n<p><\/span><\/div>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'>\n<span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>at the moment the march of<br \/>\nNature is like that, but in this new state, instead of being obliged to go back<br \/>\nto be able to start again, one can walk always forward, without ever stopping.<br \/>\nAs things are, one comes to a certain point and, as human beings as they are at<br \/>\npresent cannot progress indefinitely, one must pass to a higher species or<br \/>\nleave the present species and create another. The human being as he is at the<br \/>\nmoment cannot attain perfection unless he gets out of himself \u2013 man is a<br \/>\ntransitional being. In ordinary language it may be said: \u201cOh, this man is<br \/>\nperfect\u201d, but that is a literary figure. The maximum a human being can attain<br \/>\njust now is an equilibrium which is not progressive. He may attain perhaps a<br \/>\nstatic equilibrium but all that is static can be broken for lack of progress. <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>&nbsp;<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;text-indent:.5in;line-height:150%'><i><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>Is<br \/>\nnot perfection the fulfilment of the Divine in all the parts of the being? <\/span><\/i><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><i><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>&nbsp;<\/span><\/i><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>No, what you are thinking of is again a rung in progress and not<br \/>\nperfection. <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;text-indent:.25in;line-height:150%'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'><span>\u00a0<\/span>Now<br \/>\nwe are going to try to find a definition which can fit all instances, that is,<br \/>\nthe individual, the collectivity, the earth and the universe. <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;text-indent:.25in;line-height:150%'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'><span>\u00a0<\/span>We<br \/>\nmay say that perfection will be attained in the individual, the collectivity,<br \/>\non the earth and in the universe, when, at <i>every<br \/>\nmoment<\/i>, the receptivity will be equal in quality and quantity to the Force<br \/>\nwhich wants to manifest. <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;text-indent:.25in;line-height:150%'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'><span>\u00a0<\/span>That is the supreme equilibrium. <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'><span>\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 \u00a0<\/span>Hence, there must be a perfect equilibrium<br \/>\nbetween what comes from above and what answers from below, and when the two<br \/>\nmeet, that is perfect equilibrium, which is the Realisation \u2013 a realisation in<br \/>\nconstant progress.<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'><span>\u00a0<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><i><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'><span>\u00a0<\/span>\u201cIt is better to be than to seem. We do not<br \/>\nneed to appear to be good if our sincerity is perfect. And by perfect sincerity<br \/>\nwe mean that all our thoughts, feel-&nbsp;<\/span><\/i><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" align=\"center\" style='margin:0;text-align:center;line-height:150%'>\n<span style='font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>Page &#8211; 16<\/span><\/p>\n<div class=\"MsoPlainText\" align=\"center\" style='text-align:center'><span style='font-family:\"Times New Roman\";color:blue'><\/p>\n<hr size=\"2\" width=\"100%\" align=\"center\">\n<p><\/span><\/div>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><i><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>ings,<br \/>\nsensations and actions should express nothing but the central Truth of our<br \/>\nbeing.\u201d <\/span><\/i><\/p>\n<p><span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" align=\"right\" style='margin:0;text-align:right;line-height:150%'>\n<\/span><span style='font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'><span><font size=\"2\">\u201cTournaments\u201d, On Education <\/font><\/span> <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>&nbsp;<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>When you are absolutely sincere, you make a constant effort to<br \/>\nlive in harmony with the highest ideal of your being, the truth of your being.<br \/>\nAt every moment, in all that you think, all that you feel and all that you do,<br \/>\nyou try as perfectly as possible, as completely as possible, to put yourself in<br \/>\nharmony with the highest ideal or, if you are conscious of it, with the truth<br \/>\nof your being \u2013 then you have reached true sincerity. And if you are like that,<br \/>\nif truly you do not act from egoistic motives or for personal reasons, if you<br \/>\nact guided by your inner truth, that is, if you are perfectly sincere, it is<br \/>\nabsolutely the same to you whether the whole world judges you in one way or<br \/>\nanother. In this state of perfect sincerity you do not need to appear good or<br \/>\nto be approved by others, for the first thing you experience when you are in<br \/>\nharmony with your true consciousness is that you do not care what you look<br \/>\nlike. Whether you look like this or like that, whether you seem indifferent,<br \/>\ncold, distant, proud, all this is of no importance; provided, I repeat this,<br \/>\nyou are absolutely sincere, that is, you never forget that you live in order to<br \/>\nrealise your inner, central truth. <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>&nbsp;<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;text-indent:.5in;line-height:150%'><i><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>Does<br \/>\nnot perfection consist in pleasing the Divine and no one else? <\/span><\/i><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><i><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>&nbsp;<\/span><\/i><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>Yes, if you like, but when one is not absolutely sincere, one<br \/>\ndeceives oneself very easily, and if one feels comfortable, one says: \u201cOh, I am<br \/>\nsure that I please the Divine.\u201d&nbsp;<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" align=\"center\" style='margin:0;text-align:center;line-height:150%'>\n<span style='font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>Page &#8211; 17<\/span><\/p>\n<div class=\"MsoPlainText\" align=\"center\" style='text-align:center'><span style='font-family:\"Times New Roman\";color:blue'><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<\/table>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>30 December 1950 &nbsp; &nbsp; \u201cWe are not aiming at success \u2013 our aim is perfection. \u201cWe are not seeking fame or reputation; we want&#8230;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[124],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-4403","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-04-questions-and-answers-volume-04","wpcat-124-id"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/worksofthemotherandsriaurobindo.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/4403","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/worksofthemotherandsriaurobindo.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/worksofthemotherandsriaurobindo.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/worksofthemotherandsriaurobindo.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/worksofthemotherandsriaurobindo.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=4403"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/worksofthemotherandsriaurobindo.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/4403\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/worksofthemotherandsriaurobindo.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=4403"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/worksofthemotherandsriaurobindo.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=4403"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/worksofthemotherandsriaurobindo.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=4403"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}