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\n


\n26
\nMay 1954 <\/font> <\/span><\/b><\/p>\n

 <\/span><\/p>\n

This talk is based upon Sri Aurobindo’s Elements <\/font> <\/span><\/p>\n

of Yoga, Chapter 8, \u201cThe Psychic Opening\u201d.<\/font><\/span><\/p>\n

\n <\/font><\/span><\/p>\n

Sweet Mother, when we see you in a dream, is it always a symbolic dream?
\n<\/span><\/i><\/p>\n

 <\/span><\/p>\n

No, not necessarily. It can be a fact.
\nThis means that instead of seeing physically, one sees in the subtle physical
\nor the vital or the mind. But one sees something of me: for instance, if I send
\nout a force or a thought or a movement, an action to someone, in his atmosphere
\nthis takes my form, in his mental consciousness it takes my form. So he sees
\nit. It is a fact. I send something and he sees it. It is not my whole being
\n(there the interpretation goes wrong most of the time), but it is something of
\nmyself. <\/span><\/p>\n

 <\/span><\/p>\n

But this always has some significance, Mother, hasn’t it? <\/span><\/i><\/p>\n

 <\/span><\/p>\n

Certainly it has significance. It has
\nmostly even a very precise aim: either it is that I want to do something or to
\nsay something to someone, or it is that I want to change something in that
\nperson or give him some needed knowledge or else I want to put someone on his
\nguard against something \u2013 put him on his guard, tell him to be careful \u2013 or
\nelse I come to answer a questions at times. <\/span><\/p>\n

Symbolic dreams… symbolic dreams are
\nusually very coherent, one remembers everything, to the least detail; it is
\nmore living, more real, more intense than the material life, and it is fairly
\nrare. When one returns from a symbolic dream, one remembers everything, all the
\ndetails, and feels that one has lived for those moments a much in tenser and truer
\nlife than the physical one. <\/span><\/p>\n

\nPage – 142<\/font><\/span><\/p>\n

<\/p>\n
\n

<\/span><\/div>\n

And it leaves a very deep impression upon
\nyou. This does not happen very often, you know. Usually it comes when it is very
\nnecessary. <\/span><\/p>\n

Has anyone any dreams to narrate? <\/span><\/p>\n

It would be interesting. I could give you
\nan example. If you have a dream to relate, I could explain it to you. <\/span><\/p>\n

 <\/span><\/p>\n

Sweet Mother, I have a dream to tell. <\/span><\/i><\/p>\n

 <\/span><\/p>\n

Ah! You have one. Let us hear your dream. <\/span><\/p>\n

 <\/span><\/p>\n

One day, when you were giving blessings, I went to you, you took me in
\nyour arms and embraced me for quite some time. <\/span><\/i><\/p>\n

 <\/span><\/p>\n

And then? That’s all? <\/span><\/p>\n

 <\/span><\/p>\n

You said something to me, but…\u00a0\u00a0
\n<\/span><\/span><\/i><\/p>\n

 <\/span><\/p>\n

But what it was you don’t remember! <\/span><\/p>\n

 <\/span><\/p>\n

No. <\/span><\/i><\/p>\n

 <\/span><\/p>\n

(Another child) Mother, sometimes I see you weeping in my dreams. <\/i><\/span><\/p>\n

 <\/span><\/p>\n

What? I am weeping? <\/span><\/p>\n

 <\/span><\/p>\n

Yes, You, weeping. <\/span><\/i><\/p>\n

 <\/span><\/p>\n

I, I weep? (Laughter) <\/span><\/p>\n

 <\/span><\/p>\n

Yes. <\/span><\/i><\/p>\n

 <\/span><\/p>\n

Wait a little!… That’s when one is very
\nsad oneself, isn’t it?
\n <\/span><\/p>\n

\nPage – 143<\/font><\/span><\/p>\n

<\/p>\n
\n

<\/span><\/div>\n

Perhaps. <\/span><\/p>\n

 <\/span><\/p>\n

That, indeed, is very symbolic. It means
\nprecisely…\u00a0 <\/span>no, I shall tell you
\nafterwards. But generally speaking, it means this: that every time one is
\nunhappy, well, it is one more suffering added to the collective suffering of
\nthe Divine. <\/span><\/p>\n

It is from a state of deep compassion that
\nthe Divine acts in Matter and this deep compassion is translated in Matter
\nprecisely by this psychic sorrow which is spoken about here. We read that this
\nevening. That is as though something were reversed, it is the same thing but
\nreversed in this way (Mother joins her
\nhands and then opens them as in an offering<\/i>).<\/span><\/p>\n

Well, the Divine’s state of compassion is
\ntranslated in the psychic consciousness by a sorrow that is not egoistic, a
\nsorrow that is the expression of the identification through sympathy with
\nuniversal sorrow. In the Prayers and Meditations I have said this (in one of
\nthe later ones), I have described at length an experience in which way I say,
\n\u201cI wept… the sweetest tears of my life\u201d, because it was not over myself that
\nI wept, you understand. Well, that is it. You know, human beings always suffer
\nbecause of egoistic causes, humanly. Even when, for instance (I have explained
\nthis often), they lose someone they loved, and suffer and weep, it is not over
\nthe state of that person they weep, for most of the time, ninety-nine times out
\nof a hundred, they do not know the state of the person, they cannot even know
\nwhether that person is happy or unhappy, whether he is suffering or in peace,
\nbut it is over the see of separation they themselves experience, because they
\nloved to have that person near them and he has gone. So, always at the root of
\nhuman sorrow there is a <\/span><\/p>\n

 <\/span><\/p>\n

1
\n<\/font> <\/span><\/sup>\u201cQ: Nowadays I
\nfeel very intensely a sorrow which brings a flow of tears in my eyes. There is
\nno unrest or disturbance in it, rather there is a feeling of calm and purity
\nand a deep gravity associated with it. Is this what is called the psychic
\nsorrow? <\/font> <\/span><\/p>\n

\u201cA: Yes, there is
\na psychic sorrow of that kind but psychic tears need not be sorrowful, there
\nare also tears of emotion and joy.\u201d<\/font><\/span><\/p>\n


\n2<\/font><\/span> <\/font> <\/span><\/sup>
\nPrayers and Meditations, <\/span>12 July 1918<\/span><\/font>.<\/font><\/span> <\/font><\/span><\/p>\n

\nPage – 144<\/font><\/span><\/p>\n

<\/p>\n
\n

<\/span><\/div>\n

turning back upon oneself, more or less
\nconscious, more or less \u2013 how to put it? \u2013 acknowledged, but it is always that.
\nEven when one weeps over another’s misery, there is always a mixture. There is
\na mixture, but as soon as the psychic gets mingled in the sorrow, there is an
\nelement of \u201creversed compassion\u201d (that’s what I was trying to explain a moment
\nago) which comes into the being and, if one can disentangle the two,
\nconcentrate upon that, come out of one’s ego and unite with this reversed
\ncompassion, through this one can come into contact with the great universal
\nCompassion which is something immense, vast, calm, powerful, deep, full of
\nperfect peace and an infinite sweetness. And this is what I mean when I say
\nthat if one just knows how to deepen one’s sorrow, go right to its very heart,
\nrise beyond the egoistic and personal part and go deeper, one can open the door
\nof a great revelation. That does not mean that you must seek sorrow for
\nsorrow’s sake, but when it is there, when it comes upon you, always if you can
\nmanage to rise above the egoism of your sorrow \u2013 seeing first which is the
\negoistic part, what it is that makes you suffer, what the egoistic cause of
\nyour suffering is, and then rising above that and going beyond, towards
\nsomething universal, towards a deep fundamental truth, then you enter that
\ninfinite Compassion, and there, truly it is a psychic door that opens. So, if
\nsomeone sees me shedding tears, if at that moment one tries to unite completely
\n\u2013<\/span> <\/font> <\/span>you understand, to
\nenter into these tears, melt in them \u2013 this can open the door. One can open the
\ndoor and have the full experience, a very exceptional experience, which leaves
\na very deep mark upon your consciousness. Usually it is never effaced. But if
\nthe door closes again, if once again you become what you are in your ordinary
\nmovements, that still remain somewhere behind and you can go back to it in
\nmoments of intense concentration; you can go back to it and you feel once again
\nthat immensity of an infinite sweetness, a great peace, which… understands everything
\nbut not intellectually, which has compassion for all things, which can <\/span>
\n
\n <\/span><\/p>\n

\nPage – 145<\/font><\/span><\/p>\n

<\/p>\n
\n

<\/span><\/div>\n

embrace all things and so heal all things.
\n<\/span><\/p>\n

Naturally, it is always the same thing:
\none must… must sincerely want to be healed, for otherwise it does not work.
\nIf one wants to have the experience solely for the experience’s sake and then
\nthe next minute one returns to what one was before, this does not work. But if
\nsincerely one wants to be healed, if one has a real aspiration to overcome the
\nobstacle, to rise \u2013 rise above oneself, to give up all that pulls one back, to
\nbreak the limits, become clear, purify oneself of all that blocks the way, if
\ntruly one has the intense will not to fall back into past errors, to surge up
\nfrom the darkness and ignorance, to rise into the light, stripped of all that
\nis too human, too small, too ignorant \u2013 then that works. It works, works
\npowerfully. At times it works definitively and totally. But there must be
\nnothing that clings to the old movements, keeps quiet at the moment, hides
\nitself, and then later shows its face and says, \u201cYes, yes, it is very fine,
\nyour experience, but now it is my turn!\u201d Then, when that happen, I do not
\nanswer for anything, because sometimes, as a reaction it becomes worse. That is
\nwhy I always come back to the same thing, say always the same thing: one must
\nbe truly sincere, truly. <\/span><\/p>\n

One must be ready, if there is something
\nwhich is clinging, clinging tightly, one must be ready to tear it away
\ncompletely, without its leaving any trace behind. This is why at times one
\nmakes the same mistake and repeats it, until the suffering is sufficiently
\ngreat to impose a total sincerity. One must not try that method, it is bad. It
\nis bad because it destroys many things, it wastes much energy, spreads bad
\nvibrations. But if one can’t do otherwise, well, in the intensity of suffering
\none can find the will for perfect sincerity. <\/span><\/p>\n

And there is a moment \u2013 in everyone’s life
\nthere is a moment \u2013 when this need for perfect sincerity comes as a definitive
\nchoice. There is a moment in one’s individual life, also a moment in the
\ncollective life when one belongs to a group, a moment when the choice must be
\nmade, when the purification
\n <\/span><\/p>\n

\nPage – 146<\/font><\/span><\/p>\n

<\/p>\n
\n

<\/span><\/div>\n

must be done. Sometimes this becomes very
\nserious, it is almost a questions of life and death for the group: it must make
\na decisive progress… if it wants to survive.  <\/span><\/p>\n

(Silence)<\/span><\/p>\n

 No other dreams? <\/span><\/p>\n

 <\/span><\/p>\n

(The first child) Sweet Mother, you did not give the explanation of my dream. <\/i><\/span><\/p>\n

 <\/span><\/p>\n

There is no explanation, my child. You saw
\nsomething of which you are not conscious in your physical being, that’s all.
\nThe Forces are always there, full of tender affection, love, help, of…\u00a0 <\/span>but one is not aware of this because one
\nlives in too narrow, too small a consciousness. There is no need of any
\nexplanation, these things are not explained. It is a fact. If you like, there
\nis an experience, a fact, something happen \u2013 there is also its translation in
\nyour brain. When you wake up it is a sort of interpretation of your dream which
\nyou remember. It is very rarely that one is conscious at the time the
\nexperience occurs and conscious of the experience as it really is. For that one
\nmust be very wakeful during the night, quite awake in one’s sleep. Usually this
\nis not the case. There is one part of the being which has an experience; when
\nthat part of the being which had gone out of the body re-enters it, brings back
\nthe experience, the brain receives a contact with this experience, translates
\nit by images, words, ideas, impressions, feelings, and when one wakes up one
\ncatches something of this, and with that makes a \u201cdream\u201d. But it is only a
\ntranscription of something that has happened \u2013 which has an analogy, a
\nsimilarity, but which wasn’t exactly what one receives as a dream. <\/span><\/p>\n

In your experience of the night which
\nproduced the dream, you entered into contact with these Forces which always
\nenvelop, help, sustain, and… you understand, don’t you? \u2013 which
\n <\/span><\/p>\n

\nPage – 147<\/font><\/span><\/p>\n

<\/p>\n
\n

<\/span><\/div>\n

are full of love and tenderness, which help
\nand welcome all those who come \u2013 which, in fact, are there, everywhere at work
\nall the time. So you became aware of that. When you woke up, this was
\ntranslated through images you know, that is, that you come to see me, receive
\nblessings, and then as there was a new feeling \u2013 that of contact with this
\nForce which envelops and helps \u2013 this gave you the impression that I was taking
\nyou in my arms and embracing you. It was translated in this way. The fact is
\nthere; the translation is that of your brain. <\/span><\/p>\n

Some people make me do very funny things
\nat night! I have heard all kinds of extraordinary stories. But it is always the
\nsame thing: there is a fact behind, they entered into contact either with an
\nemanation or with a force or an action, as I was saying just now, but then, in
\ntheir brain it was translated by images which at times are very astonishing!
\nBut that, of course, is their translation. As for me, when they tell me all
\nthat, it gives me the exact picture of the state of their mental, vital and
\nphysical consciousness. Just the deformations in the translation suffices for
\nme to know what the state of their mind is. And I cannot tell them, \u201cIt was not
\nI\u201d, for it was I! Only they have changed this in their own way, which is at
\ntimes quite surprising! Still, in the present instance, the image is very fine.
\n<\/span><\/p>\n

Here we are, my children, anything else? <\/span><\/p>\n

 <\/span><\/p>\n

Sweet Mother, last week I had a dream. <\/span><\/i><\/p>\n

 <\/span><\/p>\n

Very well, tell us. <\/span><\/p>\n

 <\/span><\/p>\n

It was an afternoon after a storm and I was on the seashore. The sea had
\nreceded very far and there was a village where I saw horses of stone. There
\nwere four horses, perhaps, in black stone, and above them there was a white
\nhorse, in marble perhaps, and this one was shining with many colours<\/span><\/i>.
\n <\/span><\/p>\n

\nPage – 148<\/font><\/span><\/p>\n

<\/p>\n
\n

<\/span><\/div>\n

It was when the sea had receded? <\/span><\/p>\n

 <\/span><\/p>\n

Yes. <\/span><\/i><\/p>\n

 <\/span><\/p>\n

Was it local or general? I mean, was it
\nany sea or the sea here? Were you on the shore here? <\/span><\/p>\n

 <\/span><\/p>\n

It was at the Tennis Ground. <\/span><\/i><\/p>\n

 <\/span><\/p>\n

Oh! You were watching from the Tennis
\nGround? <\/span><\/p>\n

 <\/span><\/p>\n

Yes. I could see the lighthouse also. <\/span><\/i><\/p>\n

 <\/span><\/p>\n

The lighthouse. Four black horses and one white
\nhorse. <\/span><\/p>\n

 <\/span><\/p>\n

The number is not certain. <\/span><\/i> <\/span><\/p>\n

Ah!  <\/span><\/p>\n

The white horse was one alone. <\/span><\/i><\/p>\n

 <\/span><\/p>\n

Necessarily. <\/span><\/p>\n

Perhaps it concerns the future of <\/span>
\nPondicherry<\/span>. It is a pity you don’t remember the
\nnumber. It could have given an indication. There had been a kind of tempest? <\/span><\/p>\n

 <\/span><\/p>\n

Yes, a storm. <\/span><\/i><\/p>\n

 <\/span><\/p>\n

And the sea had receded afterwards? <\/span><\/p>\n

 <\/span><\/p>\n

Yes. <\/span><\/i><\/p>\n

 <\/span><\/p>\n

Ah! It is symbolical. <\/span><\/p>\n

 <\/span><\/p>\n

The sky was then very clear. <\/span><\/i>
\n
\n <\/span><\/p>\n

\nPage – 149<\/font><\/span><\/p>\n

<\/p>\n
\n

<\/span><\/div>\n

Yes, yes. After the storm the sky clears
\nup. <\/span><\/p>\n

I can’t tell definitively because some
\ninformation is missing. But still, it concerns perhaps the future of <\/span>
\nPondicherry<\/span>. We shall see that. <\/span><\/p>\n

 <\/span><\/p>\n

But you can tell the future of <\/span><\/i>Pondicherry<\/span><\/i> without the
\ndream! <\/span><\/i><\/p>\n

 <\/span><\/p>\n

Without the dream? (Laughter)\u00a0\u00a0 <\/span>Ah! <\/span><\/p>\n

Very well, for the moment we are in the
\nstorm. We shall see when the sea recedes. (Laughter)\u00a0\u00a0 <\/span><\/span><\/p>\n

 <\/span><\/p>\n

(Another child) I had a dream in which I went for blessings and you gave me three
\nflowers: \u201cmental honesty\u201d, next \u201csurrender\u201d, and last, I think, \u201cquiet mind\u201d. <\/i><\/span><\/p>\n

 <\/span><\/p>\n

It is very good. It is very necessary!
\n(Laughter)\u00a0\u00a0 <\/span><\/span><\/p>\n

It is a fact. You have only to take it
\nlike that and make an effort to have a quiet mind, see that this mind
\nsurrenders and becomes perfectly honest. It is very good, it is a programme \u2013
\nand later to be concentrated on. <\/span><\/p>\n

Voil\u00e0, my children, is that all? <\/span><\/p>\n

I think we shall stop.
\n <\/span><\/p>\n

\nPage – 150<\/font><\/span><\/p>\n

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