{"id":4414,"date":"2013-07-13T01:55:49","date_gmt":"2013-07-13T01:55:49","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/localhost\/?p=4414"},"modified":"2013-07-13T01:55:49","modified_gmt":"2013-07-13T01:55:49","slug":"45-22-december-vol-06-questions-and-answers-volume-06","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/worksofthemotherandsriaurobindo.org\/index.php\/02-works-of-the-mother\/01-cwmce\/06-questions-and-answers-volume-06\/45-22-december-vol-06-questions-and-answers-volume-06","title":{"rendered":"-45_22 December.htm"},"content":{"rendered":"<div class=\"Section1\">\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><b><br \/>\n<span lang=\"EN-GB\" style='font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'><font size=\"3\">22<br \/>\n December 1954<\/font><\/span><\/b><b><span lang=\"EN-GB\" style='font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'><font size=\"3\"><br \/>\n<\/font> <\/span><\/b><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;text-indent:.25in;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-GB\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>&nbsp;<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-GB\" style='font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'><font size=\"2\">This talk is based<br \/>\nupon Sri Aurobindo&#8217;s Bases of Yoga, Chapter 3, <\/font> <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-GB\" style='font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'><font size=\"2\">\u201cIn Difficulty\u201d.<br \/>\n<\/font> <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;text-indent:.25in;line-height:150%'>\n<span lang=\"EN-GB\" style='font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'><font size=\"2\">&nbsp;<\/font><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;text-indent:.5in;line-height:150%'><i><span lang=\"EN-GB\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>When a being is possessed by a hostile force, what becomes of his<br \/>\npsychic? <\/span><\/i><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;text-indent:.25in;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-GB\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>&nbsp;<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-GB\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>It depends on the degree of the<br \/>\npossession. Usually it is something progressive. First there is an influence<br \/>\nunder which one comes, and comes in a fragmentary way, not even totally in his being,<br \/>\nbut in certain parts and for a time. This is the first stage. The second: the<br \/>\ninfluence becomes permanent and there is one part of the being which<br \/>\ndeteriorates, which is constantly under this influence and expresses it. After<br \/>\nthis, the being which has cast this influence tries to enter that part. Then,<br \/>\nusually, this produces a conflict, a kind of inner battle. People have fits,<br \/>\nsometimes even nervous morbid fits. In trying to resist, the two parts of the<br \/>\nbeing come constantly into conflict, and this produces great imbalance, even<br \/>\nphysical imbalance. But if one doesn&#8217;t know how to resist and doesn&#8217;t succeed<br \/>\nin shaking off the hold, then gradually the being that has seized upon a part<br \/>\nof the person acts like an octopus and spreads its tentacles like that, slowly<br \/>\nand everywhere; and finally it is a total possession. At the moment of the<br \/>\ntotal possession, either the possessed person becomes completely unbalanced or<br \/>\nhe becomes a kind of monster and his psychic being leaves him. <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;text-indent:.25in;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-GB\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>These cases are extremely rare,<br \/>\nfortunately. Usually, in the human being the psychic is strong enough to be<br \/>\nable to resist, and the most frequent case is that of constant conflict between<br \/>\nthe two parts, until the psychic being, if it is strong enough and knows how to<br \/>\nlean on a greater strength than its own, is capable of rejecting this influence<br \/>\nand freeing itself. It is only in an extreme case of a total possession that<br \/>\nthe psychic being goes<br \/>\n&nbsp;<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" align=\"center\" style='margin:0;text-align:center;line-height:150%'>\n<span lang=\"EN-GB\" style='font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>Page &#8211; 434<\/span><\/p>\n<div class=\"WW-PlainText\" align=\"center\" style='text-align:center'><span lang=\"EN-GB\"><\/p>\n<hr size=\"2\" width=\"100%\" align=\"center\">\n<p><\/span><\/div>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-GB\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>away. But these are extremely rare cases,<br \/>\nextremely rare. It sometimes happen that a child is still-born, that is, just<br \/>\nat the moment of birth it dies or a few minutes later, or an hour or two later,<br \/>\nyou see, just at that time. In these cases it happens that it is the psychic<br \/>\nbeing which has decided not to use this body. But if, for example, the doctor<br \/>\nwho is looking after the case is a clever man or the nurse a clever person and<br \/>\nthey can bring back life into the body by artificial respiration or such means,<br \/>\nmost often it is a hostile being which gets hold of this body. There have been<br \/>\ncases like that, children who seemed to be dead, that is, the psychic being had<br \/>\nleft the body, and before it had died completely, a vital being had entered and<br \/>\ntaken its place. Such cases have been known. And these beings are demo. In life<br \/>\nthey become veritable demo. There are not many of them. <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;text-indent:.25in;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-GB\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>There are beings of the vital, but of a<br \/>\nhigher kind, emanations of Asuras, for example, who have decided for one reason<br \/>\nor another that they would try to be converted, not to be anti-divine, and<br \/>\nmanage to enter into relation with the Divine. They know that the best way is<br \/>\nto identify themselves with a human body in order to be under the control of a<br \/>\npsychic being. And they incarnate in human bodies, but not with the intention<br \/>\nof driving out the psychic being, on the contrary, to try to submit to the<br \/>\ninfluence of the psychic being and be converted by it. These cases also are not<br \/>\nfrequent, but still they have been known, and in these cases these human beings<br \/>\nare gifted with very exceptional capacities, but usually they also have very<br \/>\nexceptional difficulties, because the power which has incarnated in them is one<br \/>\nwhich was, at least, if it is not still so, a hostile power; and, you see, it<br \/>\nis difficult to get rid of all these movements of revolt immediately; sometimes<br \/>\nit takes a whole lifetime to succeed in doing it. <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;text-indent:.25in;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-GB\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>Some of these asuric beings have tried to<br \/>\nconvert themselves and not succeeded. They ought to have left the body they had<br \/>\nchosen, because they could not convert themselves. It was too<br \/>\n&nbsp;<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" align=\"center\" style='margin:0;text-align:center;line-height:150%'>\n<span lang=\"EN-GB\" style='font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>Page &#8211; 435<\/span><\/p>\n<div class=\"WW-PlainText\" align=\"center\" style='text-align:center'><span lang=\"EN-GB\"><\/p>\n<hr size=\"2\" width=\"100%\" align=\"center\">\n<p><\/span><\/div>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-GB\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>difficult a task for them, it demanded too<br \/>\ngreat an effort. <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;text-indent:.25in;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-GB\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>But all these cases about which I have<br \/>\njust spoken to you are very rare ones, you see. We can&#8217;t say that such things<br \/>\nhappen and are met with at every turn: a gentleman who is the incarnation of an<br \/>\nadverse force or another who is possessed. Such cases are very rare, very rare.<br \/>\n<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;text-indent:.25in;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-GB\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>But the case of an influence \u2013 being under<br \/>\nan influence and expressing it \u2013 this, unfortunately, is very frequent,<br \/>\nespecially with people who undertake yoga without being sufficiently purified<br \/>\nbeforehand, or otherwise with egoistic intentions; to people who begin to do<br \/>\nyoga for reasons of ambition or vanity it happen very often that they put<br \/>\nthemselves under the influence of certain adverse forces. <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;text-indent:.25in;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-GB\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>And there are also many people who are<br \/>\nunder certain influences in a way&#8230; how to put it?&#8230; one can&#8217;t call it<br \/>\naccidental, but&#8230; for example, there are psychic beings who choose a certain<br \/>\nenvironment to incarnate in because they think that there they will have the<br \/>\nexperiences they want, and owing to some circumstances in this environment<br \/>\nthere is a hostile influence at work; so the body they put on is to a certain<br \/>\nextent under this hostile influence and they have to fight against that<br \/>\nterribly all their life. They can at a particular moment, as I said \u2013 if they<br \/>\nknow how to rely on greater forces than their own \u2013 they can conquer and gain a<br \/>\ngreat victory. It is a great victory to get rid of the influence of an adverse<br \/>\nforce. It is truly a victory which goes beyond the individual&#8217;s own person and<br \/>\nhas a repercussion on the whole terrestrial state. Each victory gained like<br \/>\nthis by an individual over a hostile force influencing him, is a long step<br \/>\nforward to the day when the earth will be completely free of the presence of<br \/>\nhostile forces. It represents a great progress for the earth. <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;text-indent:.25in;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-GB\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>&nbsp;<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;text-indent:.5in;line-height:150%'><i><span lang=\"EN-GB\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>Sweet Mother, how can the hostile forces be converted? <\/span><\/i><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" align=\"center\" style='margin:0;text-align:center;line-height:150%'>\n<span lang=\"EN-GB\" style='font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>Page &#8211; 436<\/span><\/p>\n<div class=\"WW-PlainText\" align=\"center\" style='text-align:center'><span lang=\"EN-GB\"><\/p>\n<hr size=\"2\" width=\"100%\" align=\"center\">\n<p><\/span><\/div>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-GB\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>Well, if they want to, why can&#8217;t they?<br \/>\nThere is nothing in the universe which doesn&#8217;t have one single origin \u2013 that<br \/>\nis, a supreme origin \u2013 the hostile forces like everything else; and if they<br \/>\ngive up their revolt and separation and aspire to return to their source, they<br \/>\ncan very well be converted. It may require much more effort from them than is<br \/>\nnecessary for a human being to change his defects, that of course is obvious.<br \/>\nIt is a much greater effort and, above all, much deeper, because the origin of<br \/>\ntheir revolt is very deep; it is not superficial. But still, they can manage<br \/>\nit. They have the power also; these are very powerful beings who, if they<br \/>\nresolve to be converted, can do it; and then they become some of the most<br \/>\nwonderful instruments for the divine work. The very ones who were some of the<br \/>\ngreatest adversaries.<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;text-indent:.25in;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-GB\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>I am looking for someone who told me that<br \/>\nshe would ask me a question. It is Sujat. Where is she perched? At the end of<br \/>\nthe world! I shall never be able to hear her. What did you want to ask? <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;text-indent:.25in;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-GB\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>&nbsp;<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><i><span lang=\"EN-GB\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>Could I ask you another question? Is mental imbalance due to the same<br \/>\ncause, Sweet Mother? <\/span><\/i><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;text-indent:.25in;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-GB\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>(Pavitra,<br \/>\nrepeating)<i> Is mental imbalance due to the<br \/>\nsame cause? <\/i><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;text-indent:.25in;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-GB\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>&nbsp;<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-GB\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>Very often, but not always. Mental<br \/>\nimbalance can be due to many different causes. One of them may be simply a<br \/>\nphysical structure which is defective, a cerebral insufficiency. Now, one may<br \/>\nsay that this cerebral insufficiency is probably the expression of an inner<br \/>\nvital imbalance. But in the case of cerebral insufficiency it is usually<br \/>\nhereditary or organic, still&#8230;<span>\u00a0\u00a0 <\/span>that<br \/>\nis, something produced at the time of conception. So one can&#8217;t say that it is<br \/>\ndue to an additional influence: it was an influence which acted before birth,<br \/>\nand the one who suffers from this mental imbalance is not necessarily under a<br \/>\ndirect adverse influence. It can be a consequence of malformation.&nbsp;<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" align=\"center\" style='margin:0;text-align:center;line-height:150%'>\n<span lang=\"EN-GB\" style='font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>Page &#8211; 437<\/span><\/p>\n<div class=\"WW-PlainText\" align=\"center\" style='text-align:center'><span lang=\"EN-GB\"><\/p>\n<hr size=\"2\" width=\"100%\" align=\"center\">\n<p><\/span><\/div>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;text-indent:.25in;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-GB\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>Now, when people are divided in their<br \/>\nmind, and in one part of their mind aspire for the truth and transformations and<br \/>\nin another don&#8217;t want them, and not only resist but revolt \u2013 which happen often<br \/>\n\u2013 <span>\u00a0<\/span>this indeed creates a terrible inner<br \/>\ncerebral struggle, first mental and then cerebral, and this may bring about a<br \/>\nserious mental imbalance. <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;text-indent:.25in;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-GB\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>There are cases in which it is precisely<br \/>\nthe opening to a suggestion, an adverse influence, an opening which is the<br \/>\nresult of a wrong movement \u2013 a movement of revolt or of hatred or of violent<br \/>\ndesire. One can, in a wrong movement, open himself \u2013 in a rage, for example \u2013 one<br \/>\ncan open to an adverse force and bring in an influence which could terminate by<br \/>\na possession. At the beginning these things are relatively easy to cure if<br \/>\nthere is a conscious part of the being and a very strong will to get rid of<br \/>\nthis bad movement and this influence. One succeeds easily enough, relatively<br \/>\nspeaking, if the aspiration is sincere; but if one looks on the thing with<br \/>\ncomplacency and tells himself, \u201cAh, it is like that, it can&#8217;t be otherwise\u201d,<br \/>\nthen this becomes dangerous. One must not tolerate the enemy in the place. As<br \/>\nsoon as one notices his presence, one must throw him out very far, as far as<br \/>\none can, pitilessly. <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;text-indent:.25in;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-GB\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>&nbsp;<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;text-indent:.5in;line-height:150%'><i><span lang=\"EN-GB\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>Sweet Mother, to be pure means what? <\/span><\/i><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;text-indent:.25in;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-GB\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>&nbsp;<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-GB\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>To be pure, what does it mean? One is<br \/>\ntruly perfectly pure only when the whole being, in all its elements and all its<br \/>\nmovements, adheres fully, exclusively, to the divine Will. This indeed is total<br \/>\npurity. It does not depend on any moral or social law, any mental convention of<br \/>\nany kind. It depends exclusively on this: when all the elements and all the<br \/>\nmovements of the being adhere exclusively and totally to the divine Will. <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;text-indent:.25in;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-GB\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>Now, there are stages, there are degrees.<br \/>\nFor example, insincerity, which is one of the greatest impurities, always<br \/>\narises from the fact that a movement or a set of movements, an element of the<br \/>\nbeing or a number of elements, want to follow their<br \/>\n&nbsp;<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" align=\"center\" style='margin:0;text-align:center;line-height:150%'>\n<span lang=\"EN-GB\" style='font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>Page &#8211; 438<\/span><\/p>\n<div class=\"WW-PlainText\" align=\"center\" style='text-align:center'><span lang=\"EN-GB\"><\/p>\n<hr size=\"2\" width=\"100%\" align=\"center\">\n<p><\/span><\/div>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-GB\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>own will and not be the expression of the<br \/>\ndivine Will. So this produces in the being either a revolt or a falsehood. I<br \/>\ndon&#8217;t mean that one tells lies, but I mean that one is in a state of falsehood,<br \/>\nof insincerity. And then, the consequences are more or less serious and more or<br \/>\nless extensive according to the gravity of the movement itself and its<br \/>\nimportance. But these, if one sees from the point of view of purity, these are<br \/>\nthe real impurities. <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;text-indent:.25in;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-GB\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>For example, if you take your stand on a<br \/>\nmoral viewpoint \u2013 which is itself altogether wrong from the spiritual point of<br \/>\nview \u2013 there are people who apparently lead an altogether perfectly moral life,<br \/>\nwho conform to all the social laws, all the customs, the moral conventions, and<br \/>\nwho are a mass of impurity \u2013 from the spiritual point of view these beings are<br \/>\nprofoundly impure. On the other hand there are some poor people who do<br \/>\nthings&#8230;<span>\u00a0\u00a0 <\/span>who are born, for instance,<br \/>\nwith a see of freedom, and do things which are not considered very respectable<br \/>\nfrom the social or moral point of view, and who can be in a state of inner<br \/>\naspiration and inner sincerity which makes them infinitely purer than the<br \/>\nothers. This is one of the big difficulties. As soon as one speaks of these things,<br \/>\nthere arises the deformation produced in the consciousness by all the social<br \/>\nand moral conventions. As soon as you speak of purity, a moral monument comes<br \/>\nin front of you which completely falsifies your notion. And note that it is<br \/>\ninfinitely easier to be moral from the social point of view than to be moral<br \/>\nfrom the spiritual point of view. To be moral from the social viewpoint one has<br \/>\nonly to pay good attention to do nothing which is not approved of by others;<br \/>\nthis may be somewhat difficult, but still it is not impossible; and one may be,<br \/>\nas I said, a monument of insincerity and impurity while doing this; whereas to<br \/>\nbe pure from the spiritual point of view means a vigilance, a consciousness, a<br \/>\nsincerity that stand all tests. <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;text-indent:.25in;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-GB\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>Now, I may put you on your guard against<br \/>\nsomething \u2013 I think it is precisely in this very book that Sri Aurobindo has<br \/>\nspoken about it \u2013 about people who live in their vital conscious-<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" align=\"center\" style='margin:0;text-align:center;line-height:150%'>\n<span lang=\"EN-GB\" style='font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>Page &#8211; 439<\/span><\/p>\n<div class=\"WW-PlainText\" align=\"center\" style='text-align:center'><span lang=\"EN-GB\"><\/p>\n<hr size=\"2\" width=\"100%\" align=\"center\">\n<p><\/span><\/div>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-GB\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>ness and say, \u201cI indeed am above moral<br \/>\nlaws, I follow a higher law, I am free from all moral laws.\u201d And they say this<br \/>\nbecause they want to indulge in all irregularities. These people, then, have a<br \/>\ndouble impurity: they have spiritual impurity and in addition social impurity.<br \/>\nAnd these usually have a very good opinion of themselves, and they assert their<br \/>\nwish to live their life with an unequalled impudence. But such people we don&#8217;t<br \/>\nwant. <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;text-indent:.25in;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-GB\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>Yet usually the people whom I have found<br \/>\nmost difficult to convert are very respectable people. I am sorry, but I have<br \/>\nhad much more difficulty with respectable people than with those who were not<br \/>\nso, for they had such a good opinion of themselves that it was impossible to open<br \/>\nthem. But the true thing <i>is<\/i><br \/>\ndifficult. That is to say, one must be very vigilant and very self-controlled,<br \/>\nvery patient, and have a never-failing goodwill. One must not neglect having a<br \/>\nsmall dose of humility, a sufficient one, and one must never be satisfied with<br \/>\nthe sincerity one has. One must always want more. <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;text-indent:.25in;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-GB\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>(<i>To<br \/>\na child<\/i>) What do you have to say, you? Nothing? Nobody has anything to say?<br \/>\nWhere is he, the other boy? He is not in his place. He is not in his place, he<br \/>\nisn&#8217;t there. He was afraid I would ask him questions. So then, nothing more?<br \/>\nNobody has anything to say? <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;text-indent:.25in;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-GB\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>&nbsp;<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><i><span lang=\"EN-GB\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>\u201cTo be always observing faults and wrong movements brings depression and<br \/>\ndiscourages the faith.\u201d How does it discourage the faith? <\/span><\/i><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;text-indent:.25in;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-GB\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>&nbsp;<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-GB\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>The faith spoken about is faith in the<br \/>\ndivine Grace and the final success of the undertaking. You have begun the yoga<br \/>\nand have faith that you will go through to the end of your yoga But if you<br \/>\nspend your time looking at all that prevents you from advancing, then finally<br \/>\nyou say, \u201cAh, I shall never succeed! It is not possible. If it goes on in this<br \/>\nway, I shall never get there.\u201d So this is to lose one&#8217;s faith. One must always<br \/>\nkeep the faith<br \/>\n&nbsp;<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" align=\"center\" style='margin:0;text-align:center;line-height:150%'>\n<span lang=\"EN-GB\" style='font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>Page &#8211; 440<\/span><\/p>\n<div class=\"WW-PlainText\" align=\"center\" style='text-align:center'><span lang=\"EN-GB\"><\/p>\n<hr size=\"2\" width=\"100%\" align=\"center\">\n<p><\/span><\/div>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-GB\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>that one is sure to succeed. <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;text-indent:.25in;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-GB\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>Many people begin, and then after some<br \/>\ntime come and tell you, \u201cOh, I shall never be able to go through. I have too<br \/>\nmany difficulties.\u201d So this means not having faith. If one has started, one begins<br \/>\nwith the faith that one will reach the goal. Well, this faith should be kept<br \/>\ntill the very end. Keeping one&#8217;s faith, one attains the end. But if in the<br \/>\nmiddle of the road you turn back saying, \u201cNo, I can&#8217;t\u201d, then, obviously you<br \/>\nwill not reach the end. Some people start on the way and then, after some time,<br \/>\nthey find it heavy-going, tiring, difficult, and also that they themselves,<br \/>\ntheir legs, don&#8217;t walk well, their feet begin to ache, e. You see, they say,<br \/>\n\u201cOh, it is very hard to go forward.\u201d So instead of saying, \u201cI have started, I<br \/>\nshall go through\u201d, which is the only thing to do, they stand there, stop there,<br \/>\nlamenting and saying, \u201cOh, I shall never be able to succeed\u201d, and then they<br \/>\nleave the path. So, obviously, if they leave the path, they will never succeed.<br \/>\nThis is to lose one&#8217;s faith. <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;text-indent:.25in;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-GB\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>To keep one&#8217;s faith is to say, \u201cGood, I<br \/>\nhave difficulties but I am going on.\u201d Despair \u2013 that&#8217;s what cuts off your legs,<br \/>\nstops you, leaves you like this: \u201cIt is over, I can&#8217;t go on any longer.\u201d It is<br \/>\nindeed finished, and that&#8217;s something which should not be allowed. <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;text-indent:.25in;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-GB\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>When you have started, you must go to the<br \/>\nvery end. Sometimes, you see, to people who come to me with enthusiasm I say,<br \/>\n\u201cThink a little, it is not an easy path, you will need time, you will need<br \/>\npatience. You will need much endurance, much perseverance and courage and an<br \/>\nuntiring goodwill. Look and see if you are capable of having all this, and then<br \/>\nstart. But once you have started, it is finished, there is no going back any<br \/>\nmore; you must go to the very end.\u201d <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;text-indent:.25in;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-GB\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>Sometimes I tell them, I tell them that I<br \/>\ngive them a few days or a few months. There are some to whom I have given a few<br \/>\nyears for reflection. I told them, \u201cLook well, be quite sure.\u201d But once they<br \/>\ncome and say, \u201cNow I have decided, I want to start\u201d, it is good. Now, one must<br \/>\ngo on to the very end,<br \/>\n&nbsp;<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" align=\"center\" style='margin:0;text-align:center;line-height:150%'>\n<span lang=\"EN-GB\" style='font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>Page &#8211; 441<\/span><\/p>\n<div class=\"WW-PlainText\" align=\"center\" style='text-align:center'><span lang=\"EN-GB\"><\/p>\n<hr size=\"2\" width=\"100%\" align=\"center\">\n<p><\/span><\/div>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-GB\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>whatever the cost; even if it is very<br \/>\ndifficult, one has to go to the very end. <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;text-indent:.25in;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-GB\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>&nbsp;<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;text-indent:.5in;line-height:150%'><i><span lang=\"EN-GB\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>When one draws back from the path, one draws back for the present life<br \/>\nor&#8230;<span>\u00a0\u00a0 <\/span><\/span><\/i><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;text-indent:.25in;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-GB\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>&nbsp;<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-GB\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>In this, you see, there are many different<br \/>\ncases, and they depend on the nature of the drawing back. If it is a small<br \/>\nset-back or a small halt, you can start again. But it is ten times more<br \/>\ndifficult than before. <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;text-indent:.25in;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-GB\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>&nbsp;<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;text-indent:.5in;line-height:150%'><i><span lang=\"EN-GB\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>Why? <\/span><\/i><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;text-indent:.25in;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-GB\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>&nbsp;<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-GB\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>Why? Because it is so. Because you have<br \/>\naccumulated obstacles in yourself by your cowardice and weakness. All those<br \/>\ndifficulties which you must conquer are like spiritual tests which you have to<br \/>\npass. And if you fail in your test, well, the next one will be much more<br \/>\ndifficult. This is the general occult law. One can&#8217;t escape it. If you are<br \/>\nfaced with making an effort and making progress, if you fail&#8230;<span>\u00a0\u00a0 <\/span>And note that in the present conditions you<br \/>\nare not warned beforehand, which makes the test much more difficult to pass. In<br \/>\nformer days, the days of old, the candidates were told, \u201cNow, prepare yourself.<br \/>\nYou are going to undergo terrible trials: you will be enclosed in a coffin, you<br \/>\nwill have to face terrible dangers. But these are tests to find out if you have<br \/>\nthe necessary qualities.\u201d A man forewarned, you understand, is as good as ten,<br \/>\nas we say. Once they were warned that it was a trial, they did not take it<br \/>\nseriously and it was much easier. <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;text-indent:.25in;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-GB\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>But that&#8217;s no longer the practice. This is<br \/>\nno longer done. It is life itself, the circumstances of each day which are the<br \/>\ntrials through which you have to pass. Some people instinctively feel that they<br \/>\nare facing a decision that&#8217;s to be taken, a special effort that&#8217;s to be made,<br \/>\nand they make this effort within themselves and cross the step. These acquire a<br \/>\nmuch greater strength to<br \/>\n&nbsp;<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" align=\"center\" style='margin:0;text-align:center;line-height:150%'>\n<span lang=\"EN-GB\" style='font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>Page &#8211; 442<\/span><\/p>\n<div class=\"WW-PlainText\" align=\"center\" style='text-align:center'><span lang=\"EN-GB\"><\/p>\n<hr size=\"2\" width=\"100%\" align=\"center\">\n<p><\/span><\/div>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-GB\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>cross the next step. When one has gained a<br \/>\nsmall victory over his lower being, the next time he has a much greater<br \/>\nstrength to take the next step. On the contrary, if one is blind, ignorant,<br \/>\nstupid or ill-willed and, instead of saying \u201cyes\u201d to the trial that faces him,<br \/>\nhe revolts or refuses it, then, you see, this is expressed by: \u201cOne has not<br \/>\npassed his test, one has failed in his test.\u201d But the next time, one is<br \/>\ncompelled not only to make an effort to conquer this, but to make a still<br \/>\ngreater effort to redress the wrong one has done to himself. So it is much more<br \/>\ndifficult. <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;text-indent:.25in;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-GB\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>But these things happen to everyone on the<br \/>\npath, all the time, perhaps even daily. There are small things, there are<br \/>\nthings a little bigger. The small ones one can turn, you see, by chance the right<br \/>\nway. For the big ones one must first have a kind of instinct. One must pay<br \/>\nattention and do the right thing in the right way. But there are other things<br \/>\nstill. When one is at a critical moment of his development, and it is<br \/>\nabsolutely necessary to cross the step in order to go forward \u2013 at that moment,<br \/>\nthere are always two possibilities: that of crossing the step, and then one<br \/>\nimmediately makes a terrific progress; or else to become slack, and then this<br \/>\nindeed is more than a halt, even more than a set-back, it can be a very serious<br \/>\nfall into a chasm. There are abysses from which one does not come up again; and<br \/>\nso, in this case it means a life lost. <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;text-indent:.25in;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-GB\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>But if one has within, besides the part<br \/>\nthat has given way and fallen, if somewhere one has a very ardent flame, if one<br \/>\nis ready for anything, all possible suffering, all possible effort, all<br \/>\npossible sacrifices to redress what one has done, in order to climb back from<br \/>\nthe bottom of the abyss, to find the path again, one can do it. This flame has<br \/>\nthe power to call the Grace. And with the Grace there is nothing impossible.<br \/>\nBut it must be a real flame, something very powerful, because when one is at<br \/>\nthe bottom of the hole it is not easy to come out of it. Between the first<br \/>\nkind, which is simply a little halt on the way and which makes the next step<br \/>\njust a little more difficult, and the last one I am speaking about, there are<br \/>\nmany degrees; and so one can&#8217;t<br \/>\n&nbsp;<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" align=\"center\" style='margin:0;text-align:center;line-height:150%'>\n<span lang=\"EN-GB\" style='font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>Page &#8211; 443<\/span><\/p>\n<div class=\"WW-PlainText\" align=\"center\" style='text-align:center'><span lang=\"EN-GB\"><\/p>\n<hr size=\"2\" width=\"100%\" align=\"center\">\n<p><\/span><\/div>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-GB\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>say that if one leaves the path it is for<br \/>\na lifetime. That would be only an extreme case. <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;text-indent:.25in;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-GB\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>But if one leaves the path, it is even<br \/>\nvery difficult to find it again. What is strange is that in leaving it one<br \/>\nloses it. There are legends of this kind in all countries: of people who have<br \/>\nleft the path and then later searched for it and never found it again. It was<br \/>\nas if it had vanished. They lost it and this truly is a very sad thing. <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;text-indent:.25in;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-GB\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>But when you are on the path, I said this \u2013<br \/>\nI was just saying it \u2013 when you are on the path, do not ever leave it. Wait a<br \/>\nlittle, you can hesitate as long as you want before taking it; but the minute<br \/>\nyou set your foot on it, it is finished, don&#8217;t leave it. Because this has<br \/>\nconsequences which can even extend to several lives. It is something very<br \/>\nserious. That is why, besides, I never push anyone to take the path. You are<br \/>\nquite a number of children here; I have never asked anyone \u2013 only those who<br \/>\ncame to me and told me, \u201cI want it.\u201d And to these also, unless I am absolutely<br \/>\nsure of them because it is written in their destiny that they have come for<br \/>\nthat, I always say, \u201cThink about it, think, be quite sure that this is what you<br \/>\nwant and nothing else.\u201d And when they have reflected and decided, it is<br \/>\nfinished. One should no longer move away, one should go straight to the end. I<br \/>\nmean, one should not leave the path any more. One should go forward at all<br \/>\ncosts and try not to stop too often on the way, because it is easier to<br \/>\ncontinue even if it is hard, you see, than to begin all over again when one has<br \/>\nstopped. A much greater effort is needed to get going again than to continue on<br \/>\nthe way. And you see, logically I should not say it, but I have already warned<br \/>\nall who are here, I have told them, \u201cDon&#8217;t ever take lightly all the<br \/>\ncircumstances of each day, all the tiny little things of life, all the small<br \/>\nevents, you know; never take all this lightly.\u201d Never react with your lower<br \/>\nbeing. Each time you are told to do something or not to do it \u2013 you are not<br \/>\ntold this very often, but each time you are told, before reacting think a<br \/>\nlittle, try to find in yourself the part which reacts. Do not react just like<br \/>\nthat<br \/>\n&nbsp;<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" align=\"center\" style='margin:0;text-align:center;line-height:150%'>\n<span lang=\"EN-GB\" style='font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>Page &#8211; 444<\/span><\/p>\n<div class=\"WW-PlainText\" align=\"center\" style='text-align:center'><span lang=\"EN-GB\"><\/p>\n<hr size=\"2\" width=\"100%\" align=\"center\">\n<p><\/span><\/div>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-GB\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>with what is most commonplace in you.<br \/>\nEnter within yourself, try to find the best in yourself and with this you must<br \/>\nreact. <i>It is very important, it is very<br \/>\nimportant.<\/i><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;text-indent:.25in;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-GB\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>There are people who mark time for years<br \/>\nbecause they haven&#8217;t done this. There are others who seem to fly, so fast do<br \/>\nthey go, because they pay attention to this. And those who don&#8217;t do that throw<br \/>\nthe blame always on the Divine. They accuse the Grace. They tell her, \u201cIt is<br \/>\nYou who deceived me, it is You who put me into difficulty, it is You who made<br \/>\nme stumble, it is You who are a monster\u201d, not exactly in these words, but their<br \/>\nthought is like this. And so, naturally, they make their case worse because<br \/>\nthey push away even the help they could have had in their difficulty. There we<br \/>\nare. <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;text-indent:.25in;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-GB\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>I could tell you many more things, but it<br \/>\nwill come gradually. In any case, if you can keep within yourself a confidence,<br \/>\na candid trust which does not argue, and the see of&#8230;<span>\u00a0\u00a0 <\/span>yes, it is truly a kind of trust that what<br \/>\nis done for you, in spite of all appearances, is always the best thing to lead<br \/>\nyou in the quickest way possible out of all your difficulties and towards the<br \/>\ngoal&#8230;<span>\u00a0\u00a0 <\/span>if you can keep that strong in<br \/>\nyou, well, your path will become tremendously easier. <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;text-indent:.25in;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-GB\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>You will tell me that it is very difficult<br \/>\nto keep it, but children keep it very well. They must have truly come upon<br \/>\nparticularly detestable parents to lose it; but if their parents are simply<br \/>\ngood enough, they keep this very well. Well, it is this attitude; if you can<br \/>\ntell yourself, \u201cGood, perhaps the divine Grace deserves our confidence\u201d, simply<br \/>\nthis, nothing else, you will avoid many difficulties, many. In fact this avoids<br \/>\nmany difficulties even in ordinary life, and many worries. And particularly<br \/>\nhere, if you can do that, well, you will see things which seemed formidably<br \/>\ndifficult dissolving suddenly like clouds. <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;text-indent:.25in;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-GB\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>There we are, that&#8217;s all. <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;text-indent:.25in;line-height:150%'><i><span lang=\"EN-GB\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>Au revoir<\/span><\/i><span lang=\"EN-GB\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>,<br \/>\nmy children. <\/span><br \/>\n&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" align=\"center\" style='margin:0;text-align:center;line-height:150%'>\n<span style='font-size:10.0pt'>Page &#8211; 445<\/span><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>22 December 1954 &nbsp; This talk is based upon Sri Aurobindo&#8217;s Bases of Yoga, Chapter 3, \u201cIn Difficulty\u201d. &nbsp; When a being is possessed by&#8230;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[125],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-4414","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-06-questions-and-answers-volume-06","wpcat-125-id"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/worksofthemotherandsriaurobindo.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/4414","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/worksofthemotherandsriaurobindo.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/worksofthemotherandsriaurobindo.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/worksofthemotherandsriaurobindo.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/worksofthemotherandsriaurobindo.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=4414"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/worksofthemotherandsriaurobindo.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/4414\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/worksofthemotherandsriaurobindo.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=4414"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/worksofthemotherandsriaurobindo.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=4414"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/worksofthemotherandsriaurobindo.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=4414"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}