{"id":4454,"date":"2013-07-13T01:56:06","date_gmt":"2013-07-13T01:56:06","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/localhost\/?p=4454"},"modified":"2013-07-13T01:56:06","modified_gmt":"2013-07-13T01:56:06","slug":"23-30-june-vol-06-questions-and-answers-volume-06","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/worksofthemotherandsriaurobindo.org\/index.php\/02-works-of-the-mother\/01-cwmce\/06-questions-and-answers-volume-06\/23-30-june-vol-06-questions-and-answers-volume-06","title":{"rendered":"-23_30 June.htm"},"content":{"rendered":"<table border=\"0\" cellpadding=\"6\" style=\"border-collapse: collapse\" width=\"100%\">\n<tr>\n<td>\n<p style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><b><br \/>\n<span lang=\"EN-GB\" style='font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'><font size=\"3\">30 June 1954<\/font><\/span><\/b><b><span lang=\"EN-GB\" style='font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'><font size=\"3\"><br \/>\n<\/font> <\/span><\/b><\/p>\n<p style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-GB\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>&nbsp;<\/span><\/p>\n<p style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-GB\" style='font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'><font size=\"2\">This talk is based upon Sri Aurobindo&#8217;s<br \/>\nElements <\/font> <\/span><\/p>\n<p style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-GB\" style='font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'><font size=\"2\">of Yoga, Chapter 14, \u201cSome Explanations\u201d.<br \/>\n<\/font> <\/span><\/p>\n<p style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-GB\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>&nbsp;<\/span><\/p>\n<p style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><i><span lang=\"EN-GB\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>\u201cQ: What is the place of occult power in Yoga? <\/span><\/i><\/p>\n<p style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><i><br \/>\n<span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <\/span><span lang=\"EN-GB\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>\u201cA: To know and use the subtle forces of the <span class=\"SpellE\">supraphysical<\/span><br \/>\nplanes is part of the Yoga <\/span><\/i><\/p>\n<p style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><i><span lang=\"EN-GB\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>\u201cQ: What is the meaning of occult endeavour and power? <\/span><\/i><\/p>\n<p style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><i><br \/>\n<span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <\/span><span lang=\"EN-GB\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>\u201cA: It depends on the context. Usually it would mean power to use the<br \/>\nsecret forces of Nature and an endeavour by means of these forces. But \u2018occult\u2019<br \/>\nmay mean something else in another context. <\/span><\/i><\/p>\n<p style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><i><span lang=\"EN-GB\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>\u201cQ: Has every Yogi to pass through occult endeavour? <\/span><\/i><\/p>\n<p style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><i><br \/>\n<span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <\/span><span lang=\"EN-GB\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>\u201cA: No, everyone has not the capacity. Those who do not have it, must wait<br \/>\ntill it is given to them.\u201d <\/span><\/i><\/p>\n<p style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-GB\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>&nbsp;<\/span><\/p>\n<p style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-GB\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>That&#8217;s the end of the book! <\/span><\/p>\n<p style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-GB\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>&nbsp;<\/span><\/p>\n<p style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><i><span lang=\"EN-GB\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>Sweet Mother, Sri Aurobindo is speaking about occult endeavour here and<br \/>\nsays that those who don&#8217;t have the capacity must wait till it is given to them.<br \/>\nCan&#8217;t they get it through practice? <\/span><\/i><\/p>\n<p style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-GB\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>&nbsp;<\/span><\/p>\n<p style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-GB\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>No. That is, if it is latent in someone,<br \/>\nit can be developed by practice. But if one doesn&#8217;t have occult power, he may<br \/>\ntry for fifty years, he won&#8217;t get anywhere. Everybody cannot have occult power.<br \/>\nIt is as though you were asking whether everybody could be a musician,<br \/>\neverybody could be a painter, everybody could&#8230;<span>\u00a0\u00a0 <\/span>Some can, some can&#8217;t. It is a question of<br \/>\ntemperament.&nbsp;<\/span><\/p>\n<p align=\"center\" style='margin:0;text-align:center;line-height:150%'>\n<span lang=\"EN-GB\" style='font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'><font size=\"3\">Page &#8211; 189<\/font><\/span><\/p>\n<div class=\"WW-PlainText\" align=\"center\" style='text-align:center'><span lang=\"EN-GB\"><\/p>\n<hr size=\"2\" width=\"100%\" align=\"center\">\n<p><\/span><\/div>\n<p style='margin:0;text-align:justify;text-indent:.5in;line-height:150%'><i><span lang=\"EN-GB\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>What is the difference between occultism and mysticism? <\/span><\/i><\/p>\n<p style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-GB\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>&nbsp;<\/span><\/p>\n<p style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-GB\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>They are not at all the same thing. <\/span><\/p>\n<p style='margin:0;text-align:justify;text-indent:.25in;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-GB\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>Mysticism is a more or less emotive<br \/>\nrelation with what one sees to be a divine power \u2013 that kind of highly<br \/>\nemotional, affective, very intense relation with something invisible which is<br \/>\nor is taken for the Divine. That is mysticism. <\/span><\/p>\n<p style='margin:0;text-align:justify;text-indent:.25in;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-GB\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>Occultism is exactly what he has said: it<br \/>\nis the knowledge of invisible forces and the power to handle them. It is a<br \/>\nscience. It is altogether a science. I always compare occultism with chemistry,<br \/>\nfor it is the same kind of knowledge as the knowledge of chemistry for material<br \/>\nthings. It is a knowledge of invisible forces, their different vibrations,<br \/>\ntheir interrelations, the combinations which can be made by bringing them<br \/>\ntogether and the power one can exercise over them. It is absolutely scientific;<br \/>\nand it ought to be learnt like a science; that is, one cannot practise<br \/>\noccultism as something emotional or something vague and imprecise. You must<br \/>\nwork at it as you would do at chemistry, and learn all the rules or find them<br \/>\nif there is nobody to teach you. But it is at some risk to yourself that you<br \/>\ncan find them. There are combinations here as explosive as certain chemical<br \/>\ncombinations.<\/span><\/p>\n<p style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-GB\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>&nbsp;<\/span><\/p>\n<p style='margin:0;text-align:justify;text-indent:.5in;line-height:150%'><i><span lang=\"EN-GB\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>Is occultism necessary in this life? <\/span><\/i><\/p>\n<p style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-GB\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>&nbsp;<\/span><\/p>\n<p style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-GB\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>In this life? That depends upon what one<br \/>\nwants to do. You mean in the life of yoga? Not at all necessary. And besides, as<br \/>\nhe says, there are many who are not gifted, who don&#8217;t have the faculty. Lots of<br \/>\npeople, as soon as they have the least experience, the least experience, for<br \/>\ninstance when they just begin to come out of their body, are panic-stricken,<br \/>\nand this indeed is something very difficult to cure. It can be cured if one has<br \/>\na strong will and a great self-mastery. But many people are not able to<br \/>\ndissociate their states of being. If they dissociate them, something goes<br \/>\nwrong,<br \/>\n&nbsp;<\/span><\/p>\n<p align=\"center\" style='margin:0;text-align:center;line-height:150%'>\n<span lang=\"EN-GB\" style='font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'><font size=\"3\">Page &#8211; 190<\/font><\/span><\/p>\n<div class=\"WW-PlainText\" align=\"center\" style='text-align:center'><span lang=\"EN-GB\"><\/p>\n<hr size=\"2\" width=\"100%\" align=\"center\">\n<p><\/span><\/div>\n<p style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-GB\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>their body suffers; while there are others<br \/>\nwho go out, take a walk, return. For them this is quite natural. Usually, those<br \/>\nwho are interested in this \u2013 unless it is only a kind of mental curiosity \u2013 are<br \/>\nalso gifted. They may not know it but they can be taught. But these things have<br \/>\nto be practised with precaution. For instance \u2013 I am going to give you an<br \/>\nexample: as soon as one goes out of the body, no matter how slightly, and even<br \/>\njust mentally, well, that part of the mind which controls the functioning goes<br \/>\nout; and the automatic side of the mind which makes or produces movements or<br \/>\nglandular secretions, that whole automatic side, you see, remain without the<br \/>\nprotection and control of the conscious, thinking part. Well, in the atmosphere<br \/>\nthere are always numerous little entities, very tiny, usually originating from<br \/>\nhuman disintegrations, which are like physical microbes, some kind of microbes<br \/>\nof the vital. They are more visible and have a will of their own. One can&#8217;t say<br \/>\nthey are wicked but they are full of mischief. They like to have a good time<br \/>\nand enjoy themselves at people&#8217;s expense. So, as soon as they see that you are<br \/>\nnot sufficiently protected, they get hold of the automatic mind and bring upon<br \/>\nyou all sorts of quite unpleasant things \u2013 as, for example, some people swallow<br \/>\ntheir tongue when in a trance; this suffocates them if they don&#8217;t take care.<br \/>\nOthers bite their tongue; sometimes this hurts very badly. All sorts of things<br \/>\nlike this may happen to you \u2013 which means that normally you should never enter<br \/>\ninto a trance without having somebody nearby to watch over you, and not only<br \/>\nwatch just physically but&#8230; watch with the conscious power of preventing these<br \/>\nlittle entities from getting hold of your nervous centres which are not<br \/>\nprotected by the conscious Presence. This is a general rule. There are greater<br \/>\ndangers than that. When one goes out of the body materially \u2013 and nothing but<br \/>\nthe contact of a link remain, you understand, it is a kind of link like a<br \/>\nthread of light joining the being that has gone out with the one that remain behind<br \/>\n\u2013 if this link is protected, nothing happen. But if it is not protected, there<br \/>\nmay be adverse forces, not only full of mischief but with<br \/>\n&nbsp;<\/span><\/p>\n<p align=\"center\" style='margin:0;text-align:center;line-height:150%'>\n<span lang=\"EN-GB\" style='font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'><font size=\"3\">Page &#8211; 191<\/font><\/span><\/p>\n<div class=\"WW-PlainText\" align=\"center\" style='text-align:center'><span lang=\"EN-GB\"><\/p>\n<hr size=\"2\" width=\"100%\" align=\"center\">\n<p><\/span><\/div>\n<p style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-GB\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>much ill-will also, which could come and<br \/>\ncut it. And then, once it is cut, you may try as hard as you like, but you<br \/>\ncannot get back into the body.<\/span><\/p>\n<p style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-GB\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>&nbsp;<\/span><\/p>\n<p style='margin:0;text-align:justify;text-indent:.5in;line-height:150%'><i><span lang=\"EN-GB\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>One dies? <\/span><\/i><\/p>\n<p style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-GB\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>&nbsp;<\/span><\/p>\n<p style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-GB\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>Yes, after a while. Which means that all<br \/>\nthis is not at all a joke, you understand, or just a matter of having fun or<br \/>\nsomething one can do simply to amuse oneself. It must be done in the right way<br \/>\nand in the required conditions, and with great care. And then, one thing is<br \/>\nabsolutely essential, absolutely: you must not touch this occult science if you<br \/>\nhave the least fear in you. For instance, if in your dreams you meet terrible<br \/>\nthings and get frightened, you should not practise occultism. If, on the other<br \/>\nhand, the most frightful dreams you have leave you absolutely calm, and even at<br \/>\ntimes amused and very much interested, if you can handle all that and know how<br \/>\nto get out of the difficulty in every circumstance, then that means you have<br \/>\nthe ability and can do it. Some people are very brave warriors in their dreams.<br \/>\nWhen they meet enemies, they know how to fight; they know not only how to<br \/>\ndefend themselves, but also to conquer; they are full of ardour, energy,<br \/>\ncourage; these indeed are the true candidates for occultism. But those who rush<br \/>\nback into their body as fast as a rat into its hole, they should surely not<br \/>\ntouch it. And then, you must also have an infinite patience; because just as it<br \/>\ntakes many years to learn how to handle the different chemical substances, just<br \/>\nas you have to work for long periods without getting any visible results when<br \/>\nyou want to discover the least thing that&#8217;s new, so in occultism you may try<br \/>\nfor years together and not have the least experience. And that becomes very<br \/>\nmonotonous and hardly interesting; and there is always in man that kind of<br \/>\nphysical mind, practical and positive, which keeps on telling you, \u201cWhy are you<br \/>\ntrying? You see quite well there is nothing in it, these are all stories people<br \/>\ntell you; why are you working for nothing? You are wasting your time. There is <span class=\"SpellE\">noth<\/span>&#8211;&nbsp;<\/span><\/p>\n<p align=\"center\" style='margin:0;text-align:center;line-height:150%'>\n<span lang=\"EN-GB\" style='font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'><font size=\"3\">Page &#8211; 192<\/font><\/span><\/p>\n<div class=\"WW-PlainText\" align=\"center\" style='text-align:center'><span lang=\"EN-GB\"><\/p>\n<hr size=\"2\" width=\"100%\" align=\"center\">\n<p><\/span><\/div>\n<p style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><span class=\"SpellE\"><span lang=\"EN-GB\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>ing<\/span><\/span><span lang=\"EN-GB\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'> at all in it, it is all imagination.\u201d It<br \/>\nis very difficult to keep one&#8217;s conviction and faith when there is nothing upon<br \/>\nwhich to found them. <\/span><\/p>\n<p style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-GB\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>&nbsp;<\/span><\/p>\n<p style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><i><span lang=\"EN-GB\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>Sweet Mother, are religious exercises very important for those who have<br \/>\nan ordinary consciousness? <\/span><\/i><\/p>\n<p style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-GB\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>&nbsp;<\/span><\/p>\n<p style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-GB\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>Religious exercises? I don&#8217;t know! What do<br \/>\nyou mean by religious exercises? <\/span><\/p>\n<p style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-GB\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>&nbsp;<\/span><\/p>\n<p style='margin:0;text-align:justify;text-indent:.5in;line-height:150%'><span class=\"SpellE\"><i><span lang=\"EN-GB\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>Japa<\/span><\/i><\/span><i><span lang=\"EN-GB\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>, etc. <\/span><\/i><\/p>\n<p style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-GB\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>&nbsp;<\/span><\/p>\n<p style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-GB\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>Oh, those things! If it helps you, it is all<br \/>\nright. If it doesn&#8217;t help you, it is just&#8230; This is one of those altogether<br \/>\nrelative things. It is altogether relative. Its value lies only in the effect<br \/>\nit has on you and the extent to which you believe in it. If it helps you to<br \/>\nconcentrate, it is good. The ordinary consciousness always does it just through<br \/>\nsuperstition, with the idea that \u201cIf I do this, if I go to the temple or church<br \/>\nonce a week, if I offer prayers, something very fine will happen to me.\u201d This<br \/>\nis superstition, spread all over the world, but it has no value at all from the<br \/>\nspiritual point of view. <\/span><\/p>\n<p style='margin:0;text-align:justify'><span lang=\"EN-GB\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>&nbsp;<\/span><\/p>\n<p style='margin:0;text-align:justify'><i><span lang=\"EN-GB\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>Mother, for instance, on certain days of the year we have <span class=\"SpellE\">Lakshmi-puja<\/span>, Mahakali-<span class=\"SpellE\">puja<\/span>, and<br \/>\nall that&#8230;<span>\u00a0 <\/span><\/span><\/i><\/p>\n<p style='margin:0;text-align:justify'><span lang=\"EN-GB\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>&nbsp;<\/span><\/p>\n<p style='margin:0;text-align:justify'><span lang=\"EN-GB\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>That&#8217;s because it amuses you, my children!<br \/>\n<\/span><\/p>\n<p style='margin:0;text-align:justify'><span lang=\"EN-GB\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>&nbsp;<\/span><\/p>\n<p style='margin:0;text-align:justify;text-indent:.5in'><i><span lang=\"EN-GB\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>But on these days you give us blessings also! <\/span><\/i><\/p>\n<p style='margin:0;text-align:justify'><span lang=\"EN-GB\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>&nbsp;<\/span><\/p>\n<p style='margin:0;text-align:justify'><span lang=\"EN-GB\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>Yes, because that amuses you!<br \/>\n(Laughter)<span>\u00a0\u00a0 <\/span>Eh? <\/span><\/p>\n<p style='margin:0;text-align:justify'><span lang=\"EN-GB\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>&nbsp;<\/span><\/p>\n<p style='margin:0;text-align:justify;text-indent:.5in'><i><span lang=\"EN-GB\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>You give us blessings only to amuse us? <\/span><\/i><\/p>\n<p style='margin:0;text-align:justify'><span lang=\"EN-GB\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>&nbsp;<\/span><\/p>\n<p style='margin:0;text-align:justify'><span lang=\"EN-GB\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>Come now! It pleases you; I said \u201camuses\u201d;<br \/>\nit&#8217;s&#8230; I was <span class=\"SpellE\">disres<\/span>&#8211;&nbsp;<\/span><\/p>\n<p align=\"center\" style='margin:0;text-align:center'>\n<span lang=\"EN-GB\" style='font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'><font size=\"3\">Page &#8211; 193<\/font><\/span><\/p>\n<div class=\"WW-PlainText\" align=\"center\" style='text-align:center'><span lang=\"EN-GB\"><\/p>\n<hr size=\"2\" width=\"100%\" align=\"center\">\n<p><\/span><\/div>\n<p style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><span class=\"SpellE\"><span lang=\"EN-GB\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>pectful<\/span><\/span><span lang=\"EN-GB\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>; but it&#8217;s because it pleases you. <\/span><\/p>\n<p style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-GB\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>&nbsp;<\/span><\/p>\n<p style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-GB\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>Mahakali day, for instance&#8230;<span>\u00a0 \u00a0<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-GB\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>&nbsp;<\/span><\/p>\n<p style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-GB\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>Yes, yes, sometimes Kali comes three days<br \/>\nearlier or four days later or at some other time in the year. She is not<br \/>\nnecessarily there on that very day; at times, to make you happy, I call her a<br \/>\nlittle. (Laughter) In any case, it is not I who believe in these things! <\/span><\/p>\n<p style='margin:0;text-align:justify;text-indent:.25in;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-GB\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>In all religious monuments, in monuments<br \/>\nconsidered the most&#8230;<span>\u00a0\u00a0 <\/span>well, as<br \/>\nbelonging to the highest religion, whether in France or any other country or<br \/>\nJapan \u2013 it was never the same temples or churches nor the same gods, and yet my<br \/>\nexperience was everywhere almost the same, with very small differences \u2013 I saw<br \/>\nthat whatever concentrated force there was in the church depended exclusively<br \/>\nupon the faithful, the faith of the devotees. And there was still a difference<br \/>\nbetween the force as it really was and the force as they felt it. For instance,<br \/>\nI saw in one of the most beautiful cathedrals of France, which, from the<br \/>\nartistic point of view, is one of the most magnificent monuments imaginable \u2013<br \/>\nin the most sacred spot I saw an enormous black, vital spider which had made<br \/>\nits web and spread it over the whole place, and was catching in it and then<br \/>\nabsorbing all the forces emanating from people&#8217;s devotion, their prayers and<br \/>\nall that. It was not a very cheering sight; the people who were there and were praying,<br \/>\nfelt a divine touch, they received all kinds of boo from their prayers, and yet<br \/>\nwhat was there was this, this thing. But they had their faith which could<br \/>\nchange that evil thing into something good in them; they had their faith. So,<br \/>\ntruly, if I had gone and told them, \u201cDo you think you are praying to God? It is<br \/>\nan enormous vital spider that&#8217;s feeding upon all your forces!\u201d, that would<br \/>\nreally not have been very charitable. And that&#8217;s how it is most of the time,<br \/>\nalmost everywhere; it is a vital force which is there, for these vital entities<br \/>\nfeed upon the vibration of human emotions, and very few people, very few, an<br \/>\ninsignificant num-&nbsp;<\/span><\/p>\n<p align=\"center\" style='margin:0;text-align:center;line-height:150%'>\n<span lang=\"EN-GB\" style='font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'><font size=\"3\">Page &#8211; 194<\/font><\/span><\/p>\n<div class=\"WW-PlainText\" align=\"center\" style='text-align:center'><span lang=\"EN-GB\"><\/p>\n<hr size=\"2\" width=\"100%\" align=\"center\">\n<p><\/span><\/div>\n<p style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><span class=\"SpellE\"><span lang=\"EN-GB\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>ber<\/span><\/span><span lang=\"EN-GB\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>, go to church or temple with a true religious<br \/>\nfeeling, that is, not to pray and beg for something from God but to offer<br \/>\nthemselves, give thanks, aspire, give themselves. There is hardly one in a<br \/>\nmillion who does that. So they do not have the power of changing the<br \/>\natmosphere. Perhaps when they are there, they manage to get across, break<br \/>\nthrough and go somewhere and touch something divine. But the large majority of<br \/>\npeople who go only because of superstition, egoism and self-interest, create an<br \/>\natmosphere of this kind, and that is what you breathe in when you go to a<br \/>\nchurch or temple. Only, as you go there with a very good feeling, you tell<br \/>\nyourself, \u201cOh, what a quiet place for meditation!\u201d <\/span><\/p>\n<p style='margin:0;text-align:justify;text-indent:.25in;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-GB\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>I am sorry, but that&#8217;s how it is. I tell<br \/>\nyou I have deliberately tried this experiment a little everywhere. Maybe I<br \/>\nfound some very tiny places, like a tiny village church at times, where there<br \/>\nwas a very quiet little spot for meditation, very still, very silent, where<br \/>\nthere was some aspiration; but this was so rare! I have seen the beautiful<br \/>\nchurches of <\/span><span lang=\"EN-GB\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>Italy<\/span><span lang=\"EN-GB\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>, magnificent places; they were full of<br \/>\nthese vital beings and full of terror. I remember painting in a basilica of <\/span><br \/>\n<span lang=\"EN-GB\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>Venice<\/span><span lang=\"EN-GB\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>, and while I was working, in the<br \/>\nconfessional a priest was hearing the confession of a poor woman. Well, it was<br \/>\ntruly a frightful sight! I don&#8217;t know what the priest was like, what his<br \/>\ncharacter was, he could not be seen you know, don&#8217;t you, that they are not<br \/>\nseen. They are shut up in a box and receive the confession through a grille.<br \/>\nThere was such a dark and sucking power over him, and that poor woman was in<br \/>\nsuch a state of fearful terror that it was truly painful to see it. And all<br \/>\nthese people believe this is something holy! But it is a web of the hostile<br \/>\nvital forces which use all this to feed upon. Besides, in the invisible world hardly<br \/>\nany beings love to be worshipped, except those of the vital. These, as I said,<br \/>\nare quite pleased by it. And then, it gives them importance. They are puffed up<br \/>\nwith pride and feel very happy, and when they can get a herd of people to<br \/>\nworship them they are quite satisfied. <\/span><\/p>\n<p style='margin:0;text-align:justify;text-indent:.25in;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-GB\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>But if you take real divine beings, this<br \/>\nis not at all some-&nbsp;<\/span><\/p>\n<p align=\"center\" style='margin:0;text-align:center;line-height:150%'>\n<span lang=\"EN-GB\" style='font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'><font size=\"3\">Page &#8211; 195<\/font><\/span><\/p>\n<div class=\"WW-PlainText\" align=\"center\" style='text-align:center'><span lang=\"EN-GB\"><\/p>\n<hr size=\"2\" width=\"100%\" align=\"center\">\n<p><\/span><\/div>\n<p style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-GB\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>thing they value. They do not like to be<br \/>\nworshipped. No, it does not give them any special pleasure at all! Don&#8217;t think<br \/>\nthey are happy, for they have no pride. It is because of pride that a man likes<br \/>\nto be worshipped; if a man has no pride he doesn&#8217;t like to be worshipped; and<br \/>\nif, for instance, they see a good intention or a fine feeling or a movement of<br \/>\nunselfishness or enthusiasm, a joy, a spiritual joy, these things have for them<br \/>\nan infinitely greater value than prayers and acts of worship and <span class=\"SpellE\">pujas<\/span>&#8230;<span>\u00a0\u00a0 <\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p style='margin:0;text-align:justify;text-indent:.25in;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-GB\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>I assure you what I am telling you is very<br \/>\nserious: if you seat a real god in a chair and oblige him to remain there all<br \/>\nthe while you are doing <span class=\"SpellE\">puja<\/span>, he may perhaps have a<br \/>\nlittle fun watching you do it, but it certainly gives him no satisfaction. None<br \/>\nat all! He does not feel either flattered or happy or glorified by your <span class=\"SpellE\">pujas<\/span> You must get rid of that idea There is an entire<br \/>\ndomain between the spiritual and the material worlds which belongs to vital<br \/>\nbeings, and it is this domain that is full of all these things, because these<br \/>\nbeings live upon that, are happy with it, and it immediately gives them<br \/>\nimportance; and the one who has the greatest number of believers, devotees and<br \/>\nworshippers is the happiest and the most puffed up. But how can anyone imagine<br \/>\nthat the gods could value&#8230;<span>\u00a0 <\/span>The gods \u2013<br \/>\nI am speaking of the true gods, even those of the Overmind, though they are still<br \/>\na bit&#8230; well, so-so&#8230; they seem to have taken on many human defects, but<br \/>\nstill, despite all that, they really have a higher consciousness \u2013 it does not<br \/>\nplease them at all. An act of true goodness, intelligence, unselfishness or a<br \/>\nsubtle understanding or a very sincere aspiration are for them infinitely<br \/>\nhigher than a small religious ceremony. Infinitely! There is no comparison.<br \/>\nReligious ceremony! For example, there are so many of these entities called<br \/>\nKali \u2013 who are given, besides, quite terrible appearances \u2013 so many are even<br \/>\nplaced in houses as the family-goddess; they are full of a terrible vital<br \/>\nforce! I knew people who were so frightened of the Kali they had at home that<br \/>\nindeed they trembled to make the least mistake, for when catastrophes came they<br \/>\nthought it was Kali who sent them! It is a frightful thing,<br \/>\n&nbsp;<\/span><\/p>\n<p align=\"center\" style='margin:0;text-align:center;line-height:150%'>\n<span lang=\"EN-GB\" style='font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'><font size=\"3\">Page &#8211; 196<\/font><\/span><\/p>\n<div class=\"WW-PlainText\" align=\"center\" style='text-align:center'><span lang=\"EN-GB\"><\/p>\n<hr size=\"2\" width=\"100%\" align=\"center\">\n<p><\/span><\/div>\n<p style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-GB\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>thought. I know them, those entities. I<br \/>\nknow them very well, but they are vital beings, vital forms which, so to say,<br \/>\nare given a form by human thought, and what forms! And to think that men<br \/>\nworship such terrible and monstrous things; and what&#8217;s more that these poor<br \/>\ngods are given, are paid the compliment of believing that it is&#8230;<span>\u00a0\u00a0 <\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p style='margin:0;text-align:justify;text-indent:.25in;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-GB\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>From this point of view, it is good that<br \/>\nfor some time men get out of this religious atmosphere, so full of fear, and<br \/>\nthis sort of blind, superstitious submission of which the hostile forces have<br \/>\ntaken a dreadful advantage. The period of denial, positivism, is from this<br \/>\nviewpoint quite indispensable in order to free men from superstition. It is<br \/>\nonly when one comes out of that and the abject submission to monstrous vital<br \/>\nforces that one can rise to truly spiritual heights and there become the<br \/>\ncollaborator and true instrument of the forces of Truth, the real<br \/>\nConsciousness, the true Power. <\/span><\/p>\n<p style='margin:0;text-align:justify;text-indent:.25in;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-GB\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>One must leave all this far behind before<br \/>\none can climb higher. <\/span><\/p>\n<p style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-GB\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>&nbsp;<\/span><\/p>\n<p style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><i><span lang=\"EN-GB\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>Mother, the other day you said that you go everywhere during the night,<br \/>\ndidn&#8217;t you? Then you know everything that happen in the Ashram&#8230;<span>\u00a0 <\/span><\/span><\/i><\/p>\n<p style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-GB\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>&nbsp;<\/span><\/p>\n<p style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-GB\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>I act as a policeman! <\/span><\/p>\n<p style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-GB\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>&nbsp;<\/span><\/p>\n<p style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><i><span lang=\"EN-GB\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>And then, Mother, what is the difference between what you know in this<br \/>\nway and what you know physically? That is, why is it necessary for all<br \/>\nthe&#8230;<span>\u00a0\u00a0 <\/span><\/span><\/i><\/p>\n<p style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-GB\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>&nbsp;<\/span><\/p>\n<p style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-GB\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>Do you suppose I can go everywhere and see<br \/>\neverything? Unfortunately, I have only one head, two arms and two legs, and all<br \/>\nthat would take a long time; I would be spending my time running about<br \/>\neverywhere. <\/span><\/p>\n<p style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-GB\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>&nbsp;<\/span><\/p>\n<p style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><i><span lang=\"EN-GB\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>No! I mean since you already know what is going on<br \/>\n&nbsp;<\/span><\/i><\/p>\n<p align=\"center\" style='margin:0;text-align:center;line-height:150%'>\n<span lang=\"EN-GB\" style='font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'><font size=\"3\">Page &#8211; 197<\/font><\/span><\/p>\n<div class=\"WW-PlainText\" align=\"center\" style='text-align:center'><span lang=\"EN-GB\"><\/p>\n<hr size=\"2\" width=\"100%\" align=\"center\">\n<p><\/span><\/div>\n<p style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><i><span lang=\"EN-GB\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>in the Ashram, why is it necessary for the heads of departments to come<br \/>\nand give you the information? <\/span><\/i><\/p>\n<p style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-GB\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>&nbsp;<\/span><\/p>\n<p style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-GB\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>No, no, they do not come to give me<br \/>\ninformation: they come to ask me for orders. That&#8217;s not the same thing. And if<br \/>\nI were to give them my orders in the night, they would not hear me, or if by<br \/>\nchance they heard something, it would probably be the contrary! They would do<br \/>\nany odd thing according to their own fancy. No, no! Information? That&#8217;s because<br \/>\nit pleases them to say what they have to say. If I were to tell them at once,<br \/>\n\u201cIt is all right, I know, I know!\u201d&#8230;<span>\u00a0 <\/span>At<br \/>\ntimes I do that, when I am in a great hurry; but they are quite shocked and<br \/>\nthink, \u201cHow can she know? She has not asked me!\u201d They alone can give me the<br \/>\nexact information, according to them. If they don&#8217;t explain things to me, I<br \/>\ndon&#8217;t know them. That&#8217;s what they think, so I have to let them explain.<br \/>\nSometimes, if it takes too long, and I don&#8217;t have much time, I tell them, \u201cIt&#8217;s<br \/>\nall right, it&#8217;s all right, I know it; come on, come to the point, what do you<br \/>\nwant to know?\u201d Well, that upsets them a great deal. <\/span><\/p>\n<p style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-GB\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>&nbsp;<\/span><\/p>\n<p style='margin:0;text-align:justify;text-indent:.5in;line-height:150%'><i><span lang=\"EN-GB\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>For example, Mother, if one has done something&#8230;<span>\u00a0\u00a0 <\/span><\/span><\/i><span lang=\"EN-GB\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>&nbsp;<\/span><\/p>\n<p style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-GB\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>Bad. &nbsp;<\/span><\/p>\n<p style='margin:0;text-align:justify;text-indent:.5in;line-height:150%'><i><span lang=\"EN-GB\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>Yes. <\/span><\/i><\/p>\n<p style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-GB\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>&nbsp;<\/span><\/p>\n<p style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-GB\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>Sometimes good, eh? <\/span><\/p>\n<p style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-GB\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>&nbsp;<\/span><\/p>\n<p style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><i><span lang=\"EN-GB\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>No, mostly bad; then one thinks, \u201cMother knows it.\u201d Instead of that,<br \/>\nwouldn&#8217;t it be better to come and tell you about it? <\/span><\/i><\/p>\n<p style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-GB\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>&nbsp;<\/span><\/p>\n<p style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-GB\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>Yes. Because here there is&#8230; Note that if<br \/>\none has done something bad, if one has done something one knows very well<br \/>\nshould not be done; for instance, if one tells oneself, \u201cMother knows<br \/>\n&nbsp;<\/span><\/p>\n<p align=\"center\" style='margin:0;text-align:center;line-height:150%'>\n<span lang=\"EN-GB\" style='font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'><font size=\"3\">Page &#8211; 198<\/font><\/span><\/p>\n<div class=\"WW-PlainText\" align=\"center\" style='text-align:center'><span lang=\"EN-GB\"><\/p>\n<hr size=\"2\" width=\"100%\" align=\"center\">\n<p><\/span><\/div>\n<p style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-GB\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>about it, I don&#8217;t need to tell her\u201d, then<br \/>\none takes that in. One carefully shuts a door upon it and then keeps it in one&#8217;s<br \/>\nheart, or elsewhere. While if one doesn&#8217;t think of all that&#8230;<span>\u00a0 <\/span>one feels uneasy, something turns there<br \/>\ninside, it is not pleasant&#8230; \u201cWell, I am going to tell Mother about it.\u201d When<br \/>\nyou set out you have to make a great effort, eh? There&#8217;s a lump in the throat,<br \/>\nthe tongue goes dry, and then it is so difficult to find your words \u2013 truly,<br \/>\none doesn&#8217;t know how to go about it, eh! But now you have resolved, you make a<br \/>\nbig effort: you draw out the words one by one, like that, with much effort and<br \/>\nfinally speak, and you try to say it as exactly as possible. My child, that<br \/>\nopens a door as wide as this, and I can enter straight into the psychic being,<br \/>\njust through this effort of sincerity that you have made. And then, when I<br \/>\nenter, I pour in all the light, all the force, the will, the consciousness, all<br \/>\nthe resolution necessary, so that you cannot repeat what you have done; much&#8230;<br \/>\nas when too much is poured into a cup, it overflows \u2013 there is much that<br \/>\noverflows, but all the same a little remain and this little works. And if you<br \/>\nrepeat this effort once again, until you feel \u2013 well, that you have nothing<br \/>\nmore to say, for there is now nothing more to hide \u2013 then that&#8217;s very fine, you<br \/>\nhave made great progress. <\/span><\/p>\n<p style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-GB\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>&nbsp;<\/span><\/p>\n<p style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><i><span lang=\"EN-GB\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>Sweet Mother, in class when we ask you questions, at times they come<br \/>\nquite easily, automatically, and at times we hesitate&#8230;<span>\u00a0\u00a0 <\/span><\/span><\/i><\/p>\n<p style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-GB\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>&nbsp;<\/span><\/p>\n<p style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-GB\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>You know, most of the questions are badly<br \/>\nworded, because you really do not know what you want to know. I mean, you are<br \/>\nnot quite clearly aware of the thing you want to know. There&#8217;s a grouping of<br \/>\nwords in your head, not the consciousness of an idea trying to become clear;<br \/>\nthere are only words knocking about in your brain which you cannot manage to<br \/>\nfit in, so as to be able to understand what they mean. So you cannot speak<br \/>\neasily, because you do not think. It does not proceed from thought. It is a<br \/>\nkind of automatic thing coming from the brain;<br \/>\n&nbsp;<\/span><\/p>\n<p align=\"center\" style='margin:0;text-align:center;line-height:150%'>\n<span lang=\"EN-GB\" style='font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'><font size=\"3\">Page &#8211; 199<\/font><\/span><\/p>\n<div class=\"WW-PlainText\" align=\"center\" style='text-align:center'><span lang=\"EN-GB\"><\/p>\n<hr size=\"2\" width=\"100%\" align=\"center\">\n<p><\/span><\/div>\n<p style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-GB\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>if you have a clear awareness of an<br \/>\nexperience you want to state accurately or some knowledge you want to arrange<br \/>\nin your head, then you can state it very clearly and at the same 0time your<br \/>\nbrain is ready to receive the answer; but if, merely with the clash of words \u2013<br \/>\nwords come like that, don&#8217;t they? You connect three or four words and then<br \/>\nlaunch an idea.. I answer, because I think there will always be someone&#8230; that<br \/>\nit could drop into a brain somewhere; but otherwise, most of the time, the head<br \/>\nis not ready to understand even what I say. You must think well and be well<br \/>\nconcentrated and see very clearly what you want to ask before asking.<br \/>\nOtherwise, it is not the part of the mind which can understand that asks. It is<br \/>\njust a surface which is in a perpetual movement of words linking up more or<br \/>\nless aptly, coming and going and passing on, and it is this which speaks, it&#8217;s<br \/>\nthis which asks and this, indeed, cannot understand. <\/span><\/p>\n<p style='margin:0;text-align:justify;text-indent:.25in;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-GB\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>How many times have I told you things \u2013<br \/>\nthe same thing, and if I ask you about it, sometimes just a week later, you do<br \/>\nnot remember it! How many times you ask me the same questions, because you<br \/>\nasked the questions but were not at all in a condition to understand the<br \/>\nanswer. Nothing remain inside, these are only passing words, just that. It&#8217;s as<br \/>\nwhen you learn a lesson by heart: they are only passing words. There is<br \/>\nnothing, there&#8217;s nothing which enters within, gets settled somewhere in the<br \/>\nreal thought, and so it has no effect and does not help you to understand<br \/>\nanything at all. The proof: how many times I have asked you, said to you, \u201cBut<br \/>\nindeed I have told you this\u201d; you don&#8217;t even remember it! <\/span><\/p>\n<p style='margin:0;text-align:justify;text-indent:.25in;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-GB\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>It has often happened, hasn&#8217;t it? \u2013 but<br \/>\nusually with the very small children \u2013 and well, even with you it has sometimes<br \/>\nhappened, that someone has asked me a questions, I have answered. Another<br \/>\nperson asks me the same questions in different words. If you had listened to what<br \/>\nI just said, I have already replied to what you are asking me! All that goes by<br \/>\nlike that, you know, altogether <span class=\"SpellE\">passingly<\/span> like that,<br \/>\nabsolutely in the superficial thought, nothing enters within and gets settled<br \/>\nin an inner&nbsp;<\/span><\/p>\n<p align=\"center\" style='margin:0;text-align:center;line-height:150%'>\n<span lang=\"EN-GB\" style='font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'><font size=\"3\">Page &#8211; 200<\/font><\/span><\/p>\n<div class=\"WW-PlainText\" align=\"center\" style='text-align:center'><span lang=\"EN-GB\"><\/p>\n<hr size=\"2\" width=\"100%\" align=\"center\">\n<p><\/span><\/div>\n<p style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-GB\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>understanding. That is why you cannot ask<br \/>\nquestions: it is because you don&#8217;t think&#8230;<span>\u00a0\u00a0<br \/>\n<\/span>only words playing about&#8230;<span>\u00a0 <\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-GB\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>&nbsp;<\/span><\/p>\n<p style='margin:0;text-align:justify;text-indent:.5in;line-height:150%'><i><span lang=\"EN-GB\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>Mother, one last question: Tomorrow we are having sports. So&#8230;<span>\u00a0\u00a0 <\/span><\/span><\/i><\/p>\n<p style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-GB\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>&nbsp;<\/span><\/p>\n<p style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-GB\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>Now, if we were to offer a fine little<br \/>\nsuperstitious prayer to ask that it does not rain! (Laughter) But you know, in<br \/>\nthe clouds, the wind, there are little entities. These entities belong to the<br \/>\nvital domain; they are not all wicked, they are often very mischievous. Most of<br \/>\nthe time they obey the laws of Nature of a much vaster and more general order,<br \/>\nbut some of these entities are half-independent and bring about local rain, e.<br \/>\nPerhaps (we said that they like prayers, these small entities), perhaps if we<br \/>\ntell them, \u201cI beg of you, be a little kind, tomorrow we have our opening, don&#8217;t<br \/>\nbe up to mischief, wait till the evening to send rain if you want to do so,<br \/>\ndon&#8217;t come and disturb our little session\u201d, perhaps this will have some effect!<br \/>\n<\/span><\/p>\n<p style='margin:0;text-align:justify;text-indent:.25in;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-GB\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>Do you remember how when there was no<br \/>\nrain, people told us that if we prayed, we would bring rain? And what a good<br \/>\ntime we had one day trying that out \u2013 calling the rain \u2013 and it rained? It<br \/>\nreally rained afterwards. Well, that&#8217;s how it happens. This domain is that of<br \/>\nthe vital. <\/span><\/p>\n<p style='margin:0;text-align:justify;text-indent:.25in;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-GB\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>Now say what you wanted to say! <\/span><\/p>\n<p style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-GB\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>&nbsp;<\/span><\/p>\n<p style='margin:0;text-align:justify;text-indent:.5in;line-height:150%'><i><span lang=\"EN-GB\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>Mother, especially on the day we have an event, we call you a lot. Then,<br \/>\nMother, isn&#8217;t it&#8230;<span>\u00a0\u00a0 <\/span><\/span><\/i><\/p>\n<p style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-GB\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>&nbsp;<\/span><\/p>\n<p style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-GB\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>Yes, yes, my children. <\/span><\/p>\n<p style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-GB\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>&nbsp;<\/span><\/p>\n<p style='margin:0;text-align:justify;text-indent:.5in;line-height:150%'><i><span lang=\"EN-GB\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>Mother, then it is not bad to call you in order to satisfy one&#8217;s own<br \/>\npurpose? <\/span><\/i><\/p>\n<p style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-GB\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>&nbsp;<\/span><\/p>\n<p style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-GB\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>Own purpose? You are here for that. If you<br \/>\ncall me in order to do things as well as you can, there&#8217;s nothing wrong. But,<br \/>\nit<br \/>\n&nbsp;<\/span><\/p>\n<p align=\"center\" style='margin:0;text-align:center;line-height:150%'>\n<span lang=\"EN-GB\" style='font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'><font size=\"3\">Page &#8211; 201<\/font><\/span><\/p>\n<div class=\"WW-PlainText\" align=\"center\" style='text-align:center'><span lang=\"EN-GB\"><\/p>\n<hr size=\"2\" width=\"100%\" align=\"center\">\n<p><\/span><\/div>\n<p style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-GB\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>is true, you know, when I come back from<br \/>\nthere, at the end of the session, well, I am drained. I have to rest&#8230; It<br \/>\ndraws and draws, sometimes terribly&#8230; The performances we have on the 1st and<br \/>\n2nd of December or other events of this kind, draw, draw, draw&#8230; After a while<br \/>\nit is made up for again. It isn&#8217;t serious but it&#8217;s true that it draws. <\/span><\/p>\n<p style='margin:0;text-align:justify;text-indent:.25in;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-GB\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>But I have no objection; on the contrary,<br \/>\nI myself tell you, \u201cMy children, if you are doing something difficult, call me,<br \/>\ncall me.\u201d No, not in order to come first or gain a victory, but so that nothing<br \/>\nunpleasant happen to you. Call me so that things may go as well as possible,<br \/>\nnot for showing off but for the joy of doing well. And you may also call in<br \/>\norder to do the thing as an offering, and then it becomes very good. <\/span><\/p>\n<p style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-GB\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>&nbsp;<\/span><\/p>\n<p style='margin:0;text-align:justify;text-indent:.5in;line-height:150%'><i><span lang=\"EN-GB\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>Sweet Mother, isn&#8217;t there another way of calling, rather than drawing? <\/span><\/i><\/p>\n<p style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-GB\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>&nbsp;<\/span><\/p>\n<p style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-GB\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>Yes, my child, but that&#8217;s much more<br \/>\ndifficult. Yes, there is another way. There is a true way&#8230; it is more<br \/>\ndifficult. <\/span><\/p>\n<p style='margin:0;text-align:justify;text-indent:.25in;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-GB\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>But this one is all right, I have nothing<br \/>\nto say against it, it is all right. I prefer this to having the experience,<br \/>\nwhen looking at people, of seeing a little black cloud turning around their<br \/>\nhead, of feeling that there&#8217;s going to be an accident, something that&#8217;s going<br \/>\nto happen, and trying to break through that to give protection, and finding<br \/>\nmyself before someone who is absolutely closed up, unconscious and persuaded<br \/>\nthat he alone is capable of protecting himself and&#8230; not being able to avoid<br \/>\nthe accident! That has happened! This is much more unpleasant for me. <\/span><\/p>\n<p style='margin:0;text-align:justify;text-indent:.25in;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-GB\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>I prefer to be called&#8230;<span>\u00a0 <\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p style='margin:0;text-align:justify;text-indent:.25in;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-GB\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>So, no rain tomorrow, yes! <\/span><\/p>\n<p style='margin:0;text-align:justify;text-indent:.25in;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-GB\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>Au revoir.<br \/>\n&nbsp;<\/span><\/p>\n<p align=\"center\" style='margin:0;text-align:center;line-height:150%'>\n<span lang=\"EN-GB\" style='font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'><font size=\"3\">Page &#8211; 202<\/font><\/span><\/p>\n<div class=\"WW-PlainText\" align=\"center\" style='text-align:center'><span lang=\"EN-GB\"><\/p>\n<p> <span style=\"font-family: Times New Roman;color: #0000FF;font-weight: 700\"><br \/>\n  <font><\/span><\/p>\n<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<\/table>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>30 June 1954 &nbsp; This talk is based upon Sri Aurobindo&#8217;s Elements of Yoga, Chapter 14, \u201cSome Explanations\u201d. &nbsp; \u201cQ: What is the place of&#8230;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[125],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-4454","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-06-questions-and-answers-volume-06","wpcat-125-id"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/worksofthemotherandsriaurobindo.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/4454","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/worksofthemotherandsriaurobindo.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/worksofthemotherandsriaurobindo.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/worksofthemotherandsriaurobindo.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/worksofthemotherandsriaurobindo.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=4454"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/worksofthemotherandsriaurobindo.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/4454\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/worksofthemotherandsriaurobindo.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=4454"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/worksofthemotherandsriaurobindo.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=4454"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/worksofthemotherandsriaurobindo.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=4454"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}