{"id":4469,"date":"2013-07-13T01:56:13","date_gmt":"2013-07-13T01:56:13","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/localhost\/?p=4469"},"modified":"2013-07-13T01:56:13","modified_gmt":"2013-07-13T01:56:13","slug":"19-15-july-1953-vol-05-questions-and-answers-volume-05","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/worksofthemotherandsriaurobindo.org\/index.php\/02-works-of-the-mother\/01-cwmce\/05-questions-and-answers-volume-05\/19-15-july-1953-vol-05-questions-and-answers-volume-05","title":{"rendered":"-19_15 July 1953.htm"},"content":{"rendered":"<table border=\"0\" cellpadding=\"6\" style=\"border-collapse: collapse\" width=\"100%\">\n<tr>\n<td>\n<div class=\"Section1\">\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"line-height: 150%;margin: 0\">\n<span lang=\"EN-GB\" style='font-weight:700'><font size=\"3\">15 July 1953 <\/font> <\/span>\n<\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-GB\">&nbsp;<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><i><span lang=\"EN-GB\">\u201cEach man has some fad or one preferred<br \/>\nshibboleth or another, each thinks that he is free from this or that prejudice<br \/>\nfrom which others suffer and is willing to regard such notions as quite false;<br \/>\nbut he imagines that his is not like theirs, it is for him the truth, the real<br \/>\ntruth. An attachment to a rule of the mind is an indication of a blindness<br \/>\nstill hiding somewhere.\u201d <\/span><\/i><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" align=\"right\" style='margin:0;text-align:right;line-height:150%'><i><span lang=\"EN-GB\"><font size=\"2\">Questions and Answers 1929 (19 May)<\/font><\/span><\/i><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><i><span lang=\"EN-GB\">&nbsp;Are superstitions mental rules? <\/span><\/i><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-GB\">&nbsp;<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-GB\">No, not<br \/>\nrules but mental formations. Generally a superstition originates in an experience.<br \/>\nFor instance, there is a certain superstition in Europe, and you are told:<br \/>\n\u201cNever walk under a ladder, it will bring you ill-luck.\u201d It is probable that<br \/>\nsomeone walked under a ladder and the ladder slipped and fell upon him, and the<br \/>\nstory starts off like that. It can happen that this is a repeated experience,<br \/>\nfor, in fact, if a ladder is badly placed and you pass underneath it could fall<br \/>\nat that very moment, and that would bring ill-luck! There are innumerable<br \/>\nsuperstitions of this kind. They depend upon the countries, besides; these<br \/>\nthings are quite local and one may even find contradictory superstitions in<br \/>\ndifferent countries. In certain countries if you see a black cat, it is a sign<br \/>\nthat a catastrophe will come. In others if you see a black cat, it means that<br \/>\nsomething very fine will happen! If you put things together you will come to<br \/>\nthe conclusion that nothing at all will happen to you! It is like that. Almost<br \/>\nall superstitions are the result of an experience that is quite local,<br \/>\noccasional, exceptional, which has been raised into a mental principle. It is a<br \/>\nmental formation, it is not a rule. <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;text-indent:.25in;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-GB\">Now,<br \/>\nthere are other instances, as for example a large number of religious rules<br \/>\nwhich are founded solely on hygienic&nbsp;<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" align=\"center\" style='margin:0;text-align:center;line-height:150%'>\n<span lang=\"EN-GB\"><font size=\"3\">Page \u2013 155<\/font><\/span><\/p>\n<div class=\"MsoNormal\" align=\"center\" style='text-align:center'><span lang=\"EN-GB\" style='font-size:10.0pt;color:blue'><\/p>\n<hr size=\"2\" width=\"100%\" align=\"center\">\n<p><\/span><\/div>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-GB\">principles,<br \/>\non medical knowledge, and have been raised into religious principles, for that<br \/>\nwas the only way to make people observe them. If you are not told that \u201cGod<br \/>\nwants\u201d that you should do this or that, you would not do it, the majority of<br \/>\nmen ordinarily do not do it. For instance, that very simple thing washing your<br \/>\nhands before eating; in countries where the civilisation is not quite<br \/>\nscientific, some people discovered that in truth it was probably more hygienic<br \/>\nto wash the hands first! If they had not made a religious rule, if they hadn\u2019t<br \/>\nsaid that \u201cGod wanted\u201d that a man wash his hands before eating, otherwise it<br \/>\nwould be an offence against Him, people would have said: \u201cOh, why? No, not<br \/>\ntoday, tomorrow. I have no time, I am in a hurry!\u201d But in this way there is<br \/>\nthat constant fear at the back of their minds that something bad will happen to<br \/>\nthem due to God\u2019s anger. This too is a superstition, a big superstition. <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;text-indent:.25in;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-GB\">They<br \/>\ndo things because they are told to do them. There is an entire class of<br \/>\nreligion &#8211; for instance the Chaldean religion &#8211; which forbids the eating of<br \/>\npork. They say it is altogether impure and that you will become impure if you<br \/>\neat it. The truth is that in these countries (for they are hot countries),<br \/>\npig\u2019s flesh is full of little worms which one takes in with the meat, even if<br \/>\nit is cooked. It has to be cooked over an extremely long time to kill the<br \/>\nworms. And so the little worms resist ordinary cooking and settle in your<br \/>\nstomach or intestines, and then there they flourish and at times even end up by<br \/>\nkilling you or, in any case, by making you ill. These worms breed specially in<br \/>\nthis kind of meat. Now, if all this is explained to people, they do not<br \/>\nunderstand; they haven\u2019t any medical, scientific or hygienic ideas and this<br \/>\ndoes not at all interest them: \u201cAh, but this meat is not expensive, it is sold<br \/>\ncheap! We\u2019ll see what happens.\u201d What will happen is that after a while they<br \/>\nwill have terrible pains in their intestines, and then they will grow thinner<br \/>\nand thinner and eat more and more, quite uselessly; they will not know what has<br \/>\nhappened; they will be simply eaten up by the worms. But if they are told:<br \/>\n\u201cDon\u2019t do this, God will be furious and will<br \/>\n&nbsp;<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" align=\"center\" style='margin:0;text-align:center;line-height:150%'>\n<span lang=\"EN-GB\"><font size=\"3\">Page \u2013 156<\/font><\/span><\/p>\n<div class=\"MsoNormal\" align=\"center\" style='text-align:center'><span lang=\"EN-GB\" style='font-size:10.0pt;color:blue'><\/p>\n<hr size=\"2\" width=\"100%\" align=\"center\">\n<p><\/span><\/div>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-GB\">punish<br \/>\nyou\u201d, that is enough. They won\u2019t do it. <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;text-indent:.25in;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-GB\">Another<br \/>\nquestion? <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-GB\">&nbsp;<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><i><span lang=\"EN-GB\">\u201cSomeone has said that when you open the<br \/>\ndoor to Yoga, you are confronted by a multitude of obstacles. Is this true? <\/span><\/i><span lang=\"EN-GB\">&nbsp;<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><i><br \/>\n<span>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <\/span><span lang=\"EN-GB\">\u201cIt is not an absolute rule; and much<br \/>\ndepends upon the person. Adverse conditions come to many as a test for the weak<br \/>\npoints in their nature. The indispensable basis for Yoga, which must be well<br \/>\nestablished before you can walk freely on the path, is equanimity. Naturally,<br \/>\nfrom that point of view, all disturbances are tests which you have to pass. But<br \/>\nthey are necessary too in order to break down the limits which your mental<br \/>\nconstructions have built around you and which prevent your opening to the Light<br \/>\nand the Truth.\u201d <\/span><\/i><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" align=\"right\" style='margin:0;text-align:right;line-height:150%'><i><span lang=\"EN-GB\">Questions and Answers 1929 (19 May) <\/span><\/i><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><i><span lang=\"EN-GB\">&nbsp;When we come to the spiritual life with an<br \/>\naspiration, can the adverse forces attack us? <\/span><\/i><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-GB\">&nbsp;<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-GB\">Everybody, without<br \/>\nexception. <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-GB\">&nbsp;<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;text-indent:.5in;line-height:150%'><i><span lang=\"EN-GB\">Even though they look very nice? <\/span><\/i><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-GB\">&nbsp;<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-GB\">Sometimes,<br \/>\nyes. Sometimes these are the most dangerous. <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-GB\">&nbsp;<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;text-indent:.5in;line-height:150%'><i><span lang=\"EN-GB\">But how can we know? <\/span><\/i><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-GB\">&nbsp;<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-GB\">Ah! The<br \/>\neasiest way, when you have a Guru, is to go and ask him. It is within the reach<br \/>\nof everyone. It is enough to have faith in one\u2019s Guru, to go and find him and<br \/>\nask him; he will tell you, for he indeed knows. <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;text-indent:.25in;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-GB\">If<br \/>\nyou do not have a Guru, then it is a little more difficult,&nbsp;<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" align=\"center\" style='margin:0;text-align:center;line-height:150%'>\n<span lang=\"EN-GB\"><font size=\"3\">Page \u2013 157<\/font><\/span><\/p>\n<div class=\"MsoNormal\" align=\"center\" style='text-align:center'><span lang=\"EN-GB\" style='font-size:10.0pt;color:blue'><\/p>\n<hr size=\"2\" width=\"100%\" align=\"center\">\n<p><\/span><\/div>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-GB\">because<br \/>\nthese forces are very clever; they do not put on a look of catastrophe and<br \/>\nmisery and wickedness, for you will immediately find it out and will not let<br \/>\nyourself be taken in; generally they come in the garb of a friend. If you are<br \/>\nvery sincere, soon you notice some little indications, like small suggestions<br \/>\nthat satisfy your vanity or awaken in you doubts or make you a bit unconscious<br \/>\nof what exactly is to be done \u2013 very tiny things. If you are very sincere, you<br \/>\nsee through them; particularly if you are alert enough not to allow yourself to<br \/>\nbe deceived by compliments or attempts that encourage you in these<br \/>\nsatisfactions of <i>amour-propre<\/i>. Things<br \/>\nthat give just a little encouragement to your vanity \u2013 that is the surest sign;<br \/>\nsomething that makes you think: \u201cAfter all, I am not so bad. All that I do, I<br \/>\ndo well. My attempt is very praiseworthy. My sincerity is above all reproach,<br \/>\netc.\u201d You become more and more self-satisfied and then there you may be sure.<br \/>\nBut even there, it does not always take these forms. There are other things,<br \/>\ndepending upon the persons. For some it is this; for others, they awaken ideas<br \/>\nof grandeur: \u201cIf I continue in this way I shall become a great Yogi. I shall<br \/>\nhave great powers. I shall do much fine work. How nicely I am going to serve<br \/>\nthe Divine, how happy he will be with me!\u201d It is very dangerous. The very opposite<br \/>\nthing may happen: \u201cAfter all, perhaps I am good for nothing. Is it worth while<br \/>\nmy making any effort? Nothing will come out of this effort. Am I capable of the<br \/>\nspiritual life? Probably I shall never do anything, I am giving up tangible<br \/>\nthings for the sake of an unrealisable dream. And what am I after all? A grain<br \/>\nof dust. Is it worth my making an effort to find the Divine? Probably I shall<br \/>\nfind nothing at all and all my efforts are futile.\u201d That is even much more<br \/>\ndangerous. I could cite hundreds of examples like that.<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;text-indent:.25in;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-GB\">There<br \/>\nis only one thing that can truly save you, it is to have a contact, even the<br \/>\nslightest, with your psychic being \u2013 to have felt the <i>solidity<\/i> of that contact. Then whatever comes to you from this<br \/>\nperson or that circumstance you place in front of that and see whether it is<br \/>\nall right or not. Even if you are satisfied<br \/>\n&nbsp;<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" align=\"center\" style='margin:0;text-align:center;line-height:150%'>\n<span lang=\"EN-GB\"><font size=\"3\">Page \u2013 158<\/font><\/span><\/p>\n<div class=\"MsoNormal\" align=\"center\" style='text-align:center'><span lang=\"EN-GB\" style='font-size:10.0pt;color:blue'><\/p>\n<hr size=\"2\" width=\"100%\" align=\"center\">\n<p><\/span><\/div>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-GB\">\u2013 In every<br \/>\nway \u2013 even if you say to yourself: \u201cAt last I have found the friend I wanted to<br \/>\nhave. I am in the best circumstances of my life, etc.\u201d, then put that before<br \/>\nthis little contact with your psychic being, you will see whether it keeps its<br \/>\nbright colour or suddenly there comes a little uneasiness, not much, nothing<br \/>\nmaking a great noise, but just a little uneasiness. You are no longer so sure<br \/>\nthat it was as you thought! Then you know: yes, it is that small voice which<br \/>\none must listen to always. It is that which is the truth and the other can\u2019t<br \/>\ntrouble you any longer. <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;text-indent:.25in;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-GB\">If<br \/>\nyou come to the spiritual life with a sincere aspiration, sometimes an<br \/>\navalanche of unpleasant things falls upon you: you quarrel with your best<br \/>\nfriends, your family kicks you out of the house, you lose what you thought you<br \/>\nhad gained I knew someone who had come to India with a great aspiration and<br \/>\nafter a very long effort towards knowledge and even towards Yoga. That was long<br \/>\nlong ago. At that time, people used to put on watch-chains and trinkets. This<br \/>\ngentleman had a golden pencil which his grandmother had given him to which he<br \/>\nwas attached as the most precious thing in the world. It was fixed to his<br \/>\nchain. When he landed at one of these ports \u2013 at Pondicherry or perhaps<br \/>\nelsewhere in India or at Colombo, I believe it was at Colombo \u2013 they used to<br \/>\nget into small boats and the boats took you ashore. And so this gentleman had<br \/>\nto jump from the gangway of the ship into the boat. He missed his step, somehow<br \/>\ngot back his balance, but he made a sudden movement and the little gold pencil<br \/>\ndropped into the sea and went straight down into the depths. He was at first<br \/>\nvery much aggrieved, but he told himself: \u201cWhy, that is the effect of India: I<br \/>\nam freed from my attachments&#8230;.<span>\u00a0 <\/span>\u201c It is<br \/>\nfor very sincere people that the thing takes such a form. Fundamentally, the<br \/>\navalanche of troubles is always for sincere people. Those who are not sincere<br \/>\nreceive things with the most beautiful bright colours just to deceive them, and<br \/>\nthen in the end to enable them to find out that they are mistaken! But when<br \/>\nsomeone has big troubles, it proves that he<br \/>\n&nbsp;<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" align=\"center\" style='margin:0;text-align:center;line-height:150%'>\n<span lang=\"EN-GB\"><font size=\"3\">Page \u2013 159<\/font><\/span><\/p>\n<div class=\"MsoNormal\" align=\"center\" style='text-align:center'><span lang=\"EN-GB\" style='font-size:10.0pt;color:blue'><\/p>\n<hr size=\"2\" width=\"100%\" align=\"center\">\n<p><\/span><\/div>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-GB\">has reached<br \/>\na certain degree of sincerity. <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-GB\">&nbsp;<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><i><span lang=\"EN-GB\">Here you say: \u201cWhen you come to the<br \/>\nDivine, you must abandon all mental conceptions; but, instead of doing that,<br \/>\nyou throw your conceptions upon the Divine and want the Divine to obey them.\u201d <\/span><\/i><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" align=\"right\" style='margin:0;text-align:right;line-height:150%'><i><span lang=\"EN-GB\"><font size=\"2\">Questions and Answers 1929 (19 May)<br \/>\n<\/font> <\/span><\/i><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-GB\">&nbsp;<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-GB\">Yes,<br \/>\neveryone. All the while, constantly. If the Divine is not as you understand<br \/>\nhim, well, that is not the Divine. If he does not do what you want, if he does<br \/>\nnot act as you think he should, if he has not the character you lend him, it is<br \/>\nnot the Divine: \u201cI recognise you as the Divine if you do exactly what I want<br \/>\nyou to do!\u201d Naturally, people are not sincere enough to admit that, but it is<br \/>\nso. I could give you millions of examples &#8211; not hundreds, but millions. And<br \/>\nthere is not a single one among you who does not do this unconsciously. It is a<br \/>\nrule, you know; one says: \u201cYes, I am quite ready to surrender to the Divine and<br \/>\ndo his will, to accept his presence and his action, but on condition that it is<br \/>\nlike this or like that, that he thinks like that, feels like that, acts like<br \/>\nthat, etc.\u201d At the first opportunity I shall show you a little example dangling<br \/>\nbefore your eyes. That will not fail. It will come one of these days. Quite<br \/>\nsoon. <i>Voila<\/i>. <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-GB\">&nbsp;<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><i><span lang=\"EN-GB\">\u201cThe power of money is at present under<br \/>\nthe influence or in the hands of the forces and beings of the vital world. It<br \/>\nis because of this influence that you never see money going in any considerable<br \/>\namount to the cause of Truth. Always it goes astray, because it is in the<br \/>\nclutch of the hostile forces and one of the principal means by which they keep<br \/>\ntheir grip upon the earth. The hold of the hostile forces upon money-power is<br \/>\npowerfully, completely and thoroughly organised and to extract anything out of<br \/>\nthis compact organisation is a most difficult task. Each time that <\/span><\/i><br \/>\n<span lang=\"EN-GB\"><br \/>\n&nbsp;<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" align=\"center\" style='margin:0;text-align:center;line-height:150%'>\n<span lang=\"EN-GB\"><font size=\"3\">Page \u2013 160<\/font><\/span><\/p>\n<div class=\"MsoNormal\" align=\"center\" style='text-align:center'><span lang=\"EN-GB\" style='font-size:10.0pt;color:blue'><\/p>\n<hr size=\"2\" width=\"100%\" align=\"center\">\n<p><\/span><\/div>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><i><span lang=\"EN-GB\">you try to draw a little of this money<br \/>\naway from its present custodians, you have to undertake a fierce battle.\u201d <\/span><\/i><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" align=\"right\" style='margin:0;text-align:right;line-height:150%'><i><span lang=\"EN-GB\"><font size=\"2\">Questions and Answers 1929 (12 May)<br \/>\n<\/font> <\/span><\/i><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><i><span lang=\"EN-GB\">&nbsp;What is the money situation now? Have<br \/>\nthese beings still a great power over money? <\/span><\/i><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-GB\">&nbsp;<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-GB\">Yes, it<br \/>\ncontinues. It continues, it is no better. Besides, the conditions to be<br \/>\nfulfilled are not fulfilled.<\/span><span lang=\"EN-GB\" style='font-family:\"Lucida Console\"'>\u00b9<\/span><span lang=\"EN-GB\"><br \/>\nSo you can\u2019t expect that it would be better. Even this very morning, I was complaining<br \/>\n(but \u201cI was complaining\u201d is just a way of speaking, it is to make myself<br \/>\nunderstood), I was telling myself: to do what we want to do we need a great<br \/>\ndeal of money \u2013 a great deal, you understand, not just a little \u2013 and then I<br \/>\nsaid to myself: still, it is not that money is lacking; there is a lot of money<br \/>\nin the world. There are even people who have so much that they do not know what<br \/>\nto do with it. But it will never come to their mind to give it for the divine<br \/>\nWork\u2026 They can\u2019t say that they do not know, for one has always the means to<br \/>\nknow if one wants to know. When the idea comes to you: \u201cI want to make the best<br \/>\nuse of my money\u201d (and the best use, not only from the viewpoint that this<br \/>\ngentleman or lady conceives as being useful, well, one can always find out.<br \/>\nGenerally (there are exceptions), generally these people who have a lot of<br \/>\nmoney put one condition: it must bring them at least some satisfaction. There<br \/>\nmust be some merit \u2013 they give, but they must get something. If they are not<br \/>\nbusiness people and do not give their money to gain more, if they are, for<br \/>\nexample, philanthropists who wish to give money to help humanity make progress,<br \/>\nthey always wish, more or less consciously (but generally very consciously)<br \/>\nthey always wish, that it should bring them fame, a kind of satisfaction of<br \/>\ntheir <i>amour-propre. <\/i><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-GB\">&nbsp;<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;text-indent:.25in;line-height:150%'>\n<span lang=\"EN-GB\" style='font-family:\"Lucida Console\"'><font size=\"2\">\u00b9<\/font><\/span><span lang=\"EN-GB\"><font size=\"2\">In a former talk (of 10 March 1951) Mother<br \/>\nhad said that the condition to be fulfilled for obtaining power over money was<br \/>\nto become master of the sex impulse in human beings.<\/font><font size=\"3\">&nbsp;<\/font><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" align=\"center\" style='margin:0;text-align:center;line-height:150%'>\n<span lang=\"EN-GB\"><font size=\"3\">Page \u2013 161<\/font><\/span><\/p>\n<div class=\"MsoNormal\" align=\"center\" style='text-align:center'><span lang=\"EN-GB\" style='font-size:10.0pt;color:blue'><\/p>\n<hr size=\"2\" width=\"100%\" align=\"center\">\n<p><\/span><\/div>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-GB\">They give<br \/>\nmoney for founding a school: the school will bear their name. They build a<br \/>\nmonument somewhere: it must be mentioned that Mr. So-and-so has donated the<br \/>\nmoney and so on\u2026 There was a time when I was building Golconde,<\/span><span lang=\"EN-GB\" style='font-family:\"Lucida Console\"'>\u00b9<\/span><span lang=\"EN-GB\"> there were people who approached me or<br \/>\nsent others to me to say: \u201cI am quite willing to give you so much or so much,<br \/>\nbut you must place in one of the rooms a marble tablet on which is written:<br \/>\n\u201cThis room has been built by the gift of Mr. So-and- so.\u201d Then, I said: \u201cI am<br \/>\nsorry. I can make marble tablets for you but I\u2019ll pave the basement with them!\u201d<br \/>\nIt is like that. <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;text-indent:.25in;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-GB\">There<br \/>\nare exceptions, as there are exceptions to all rules; however I cannot say that<br \/>\nmoney goes spontaneously, freely, without effort there where useful things will<br \/>\nbe done most. No. The maximum of goodwill is to give money for something which<br \/>\none understands well (which is also easy to understand), to build a hospital,<br \/>\nfor example, or to open a cr\u00e8che for little children. These are all works of<br \/>\ngoodwill that men understand. But if they are told that we want to change the<br \/>\nhuman consciousness, we want to create a new world, oh! the first thing they<br \/>\nsay is: \u201cPardon me! Do not speak of God, for if it is God who is doing the<br \/>\nwork, well, it is God who will give you the means for it and you have no need<br \/>\nof our help.\u201d I have heard people saying: \u201cIf you represent the Divine upon<br \/>\nearth you can do whatever you like; there is no need for us to give you<br \/>\nanything.\u201d And how many among you are free from that idea (an aftertaste of<br \/>\nthat idea): the Divine is all-powerful, therefore, the Divine can do whatever<br \/>\nhe likes? <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;text-indent:.25in;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-GB\">That<br \/>\nis the first argument, that is the theory. The Divine is all-powerful, he can<br \/>\ndo whatever he likes; therefore he does not need anybody\u2019s help. And if you<br \/>\npush your idea sufficiently far, you will see that if the Divine is truly<br \/>\nall-powerful in this world and does always whatever he wants, well, I tell you,<br \/>\nhe is the greatest monster in the universe! Because One who is all-powerful and<br \/>\nmakes the world such as it is, looking with a smile at <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-GB\">&nbsp;<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;text-indent:.25in;line-height:150%'>\n<span lang=\"EN-GB\" style='font-family:\"Lucida Console\"'><font size=\"2\">\u00b9<\/font><\/span><span lang=\"EN-GB\"><font size=\"2\"> One of the guest-houses of the Ashram.<\/font><font size=\"3\">&nbsp;<\/font><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" align=\"center\" style='margin:0;text-align:center;line-height:150%'>\n<span lang=\"EN-GB\"><font size=\"3\">Page \u2013 162<\/font><\/span><\/p>\n<div class=\"MsoNormal\" align=\"center\" style='text-align:center'><span lang=\"EN-GB\" style='font-size:10.0pt;color:blue'><\/p>\n<hr size=\"2\" width=\"100%\" align=\"center\">\n<p><\/span><\/div>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-GB\">people<br \/>\nsuffering and miserable, and finding that all right, I would call a monster. It<br \/>\nwas the kind of thing I used to think about when I was five. I used to tell<br \/>\nmyself: \u201cIt is not possible, what is taught there is not true!\u201d Now, as you<br \/>\nhave a little more philosophical mind, I shall teach you how to come out of the<br \/>\ndifficulty. But, first of all, you must understand that that idea is a childish<br \/>\nidea. I simply call on your common sense. You make of your Divine a person,<br \/>\nbecause that way you understand him better. You make of him a person. And then<br \/>\nthis person has organised something (the earth, it is too big, it is difficult<br \/>\nto understand \u2013 take anything else) and then this thing the Divine has<br \/>\norganised with the full power to do exactly as he likes. And in this thing \u2013<br \/>\nthat he has made with the full power to do as he likes there is ignorance,<br \/>\nstupidity, bad will, fear, jealousy, pride, wickedness, and also suffering,<br \/>\nillness, grief, all the pains; and a set of people who cannot say that they<br \/>\nhave perhaps more than a few minutes of happiness in the whole day and the rest<br \/>\nof it is a neutral condition, passing by like a thing that\u2019s dead \u2013 and you<br \/>\ncall that a creation!.. I call it something like a hell! And one who would make<br \/>\nthat deliberately and not only make it but look at it and say: \u201cAh! it is very<br \/>\ngood\u201d, as it is narrated in some religious books, that after having made the<br \/>\nworld such as it is, the seventh day he looked at it and was extremely<br \/>\nsatisfied with his work and he rested Well, that never! I do not call that God.<br \/>\nOr otherwise, follow Anatole France and say that God is a demiurge and the most<br \/>\nfrightful of all beings.<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;text-indent:.25in;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-GB\">But<br \/>\nthere is a way out of the difficulty. (<i>To<br \/>\na child<\/i>) Do you know it, you? Yes, yes, you know it! You will see all these<br \/>\nconceptions and this idea that you have are based upon one thing, an entity<br \/>\nthat you call God and a world that you call his creation, and you believe these<br \/>\nare two different things, one having made the other and the other being under<br \/>\nthe first, being the expression of what the first has made. Well, that is the<br \/>\ninitial error. If you could feel deeply that there is no division between that<br \/>\nsomething you call God and this something you<br \/>\n&nbsp;<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" align=\"center\" style='margin:0;text-align:center;line-height:150%'>\n<span lang=\"EN-GB\"><font size=\"3\">Page \u2013 163<\/font><\/span><\/p>\n<div class=\"MsoNormal\" align=\"center\" style='text-align:center'><span lang=\"EN-GB\" style='font-size:10.0pt;color:blue'><\/p>\n<hr size=\"2\" width=\"100%\" align=\"center\">\n<p><\/span><\/div>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-GB\">call his<br \/>\ncreation, if you said: \u201cIt is exactly the same thing\u201d and if you could feel<br \/>\nthat what you call God (perhaps it is only a word), what you call God suffers<br \/>\nwhen you suffer, he does not know when you do not know; and that it is through this<br \/>\ncreation, little by little, step by step, that he finds himself again, unites<br \/>\nwith himself, is realising himself, expressing himself, and it is not at all<br \/>\nsomething he wanted in an arbitrary way or made like an autocrat, but that it<br \/>\nis the growing expression, developing more and more, of a consciousness that is<br \/>\nobjectifying itself to itself Then there is no other thing but the sense of a<br \/>\ncollective advancing towards a more total realisation, a self-awareness of<br \/>\nknowledge-consciousness \u2013 no other thing but that, a progressive self-awareness<br \/>\nof knowledge-consciousness in a total unity which will reproduce integrally the<br \/>\nOriginal Consciousness. <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;text-indent:.25in;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-GB\">That<br \/>\nchanges the problem. <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;text-indent:.25in;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-GB\">Only,<br \/>\nit is a little difficult to understand and one must make a little more progress.<br \/>\nInstead of being like a little child that kneels down, joins its hands and<br \/>\nsays: \u201cMy God, I pray to Thee, make me a good child so that I may never hurt my<br \/>\nmother&#8230;.<span>\u00a0 <\/span>\u201c That of course is very easy<br \/>\nand indeed I cannot say that it is bad. It is very good. Only there are<br \/>\nchildren with whom these things do not work, because they say: \u201cWhy should I<br \/>\nask You to make me good? You should make me good without there being any need<br \/>\nof my asking You for it. Otherwise You are not nice!\u201d It is very good when one<br \/>\nhas a simple heart and does not think much, but when one begins to think, it<br \/>\nbecomes more difficult. But if you had by your side someone to tell you:<br \/>\ninstead of that, instead of lighting a candle and kneeling down before it with<br \/>\nyour hands folded, light a flame in your heart and then have a great aspiration<br \/>\ntowards \u201csomething more beautiful, more true, more noble, better than all that<br \/>\nI know. I ask that from tomorrow I begin to know all these things, all that I<br \/>\ncannot do I begin to do and every day a little more.\u201d And then, if you throw<br \/>\nyourself out a little, if, for alone reason or another, you were put in the<br \/>\npresence of much misery in the world, if you have friends<br \/>\n&nbsp;<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" align=\"center\" style='margin:0;text-align:center;line-height:150%'>\n<span lang=\"EN-GB\"><font size=\"3\">Page \u2013 164<\/font><\/span><\/p>\n<div class=\"MsoNormal\" align=\"center\" style='text-align:center'><span lang=\"EN-GB\" style='font-size:10.0pt;color:blue'><\/p>\n<hr size=\"2\" width=\"100%\" align=\"center\">\n<p><\/span><\/div>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-GB\">who are<br \/>\nunhappy or relatives who suffer or you meet any kind of difficulties, then you<br \/>\nask that the whole consciousness might be raised all together towards that<br \/>\nperfection which must manifest and that all this ignorance that has made the<br \/>\nworld so unhappy might be changed into an enlightened knowledge and all this<br \/>\nbad will be illumined and transformed into benevolence. And then as far as one<br \/>\ncan, as far as one understands, one wishes it with all one\u2019s heart; and indeed<br \/>\nthat can take the form of a prayer and one can ask &#8211; ask of what? ask of that<br \/>\nwhich knows, ask of that which can, ask of all that is greater and stronger<br \/>\nthan oneself, to help so that it may be thus. And how beautiful those prayers<br \/>\nwould be!<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;text-indent:.25in;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-GB\">My<br \/>\nchildren, in five years I shall take with you a study course of spiritual life.<br \/>\nI give you five years to prepare yourselves; what I am telling you now is just<br \/>\na little of the kind, as one would light a small candle to give you an idea of<br \/>\nwhat light is. But I want you all to see that we do not repeat and say over and<br \/>\nover again indefinitely all that nonsense which is uttered every time one turns<br \/>\ntowards something other than the ordinary life. Even as I have spoken here, in<br \/>\nthis book, of the confusion that is made between asceticism and the spiritual<br \/>\nlife,<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;text-indent:.25in;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-GB\">&nbsp;<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;text-indent:.25in;line-height:150%'>\n<span lang=\"EN-GB\"><font size=\"2\"><sup>1 \u201d<\/sup>Take, for example, the universal<br \/>\nsuperstition, prevalent all over the world, that asceticism and spirituality<br \/>\nare one and the same thing. If you describe someone as a spiritual man or a<br \/>\nspiritual woman, people at once think of one who does not eat or sits all day<br \/>\nwithout moving, one who lives in a hut in great poverty, one who has given away<br \/>\nall he had and keeps nothing for himself. This is the picture that immediately<br \/>\narises in the minds of ninety-nine people out of a hundred, when you speak of a<br \/>\nspiritual man; the one proof of spirituality for them is poverty and abstinence<br \/>\nfrom everything that is pleasant or comfortable. This is a mental construction<br \/>\nwhich must be thrown down if you are to be free to see and follow the spiritual<br \/>\ntruth Once it is gone, you find something that is much higher than your narrow<br \/>\nascetic rule, a complete openness that leaves the being free. If you are to get<br \/>\nsomething, you accept it, and if you are to give up the very same thing, you<br \/>\nwith an equal willingness leave it. Things come and you take them up; things go<br \/>\nand you let them pass, with the same smile of equanimity in the taking or the<br \/>\nleaving.\u201d<\/font><font size=\"2\">&nbsp;<\/font><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" align=\"right\" style='margin:0;text-align:right;line-height:150%'>\n<span lang=\"EN-GB\"><font size=\"2\">Questions and Answers 1929 (19 May)<\/font><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" align=\"center\" style='margin:0;text-align:center;line-height:150%'>\n<span lang=\"EN-GB\"><font size=\"3\">Page \u2013 165<\/font><\/span><\/p>\n<div class=\"MsoNormal\" align=\"center\" style='text-align:center'><span lang=\"EN-GB\" style='font-size:10.0pt;color:blue'><\/p>\n<hr size=\"2\" width=\"100%\" align=\"center\">\n<p><\/span><\/div>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-GB\">well, one<br \/>\nday I shall speak to you of the confusion made between what one calls God and<br \/>\nwhat I call the Divine. This will be later on. <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;text-indent:.25in;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-GB\">It<br \/>\nis 9.20<\/span><span><br \/>\n&#8212;<\/span><span lang=\"EN-GB\"> time to wind up. <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;text-indent:.25in;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-GB\">Next<br \/>\ntime we shall speak of health and illness and I shall confound all those who<br \/>\nare attached by iron chains to their illness and who do not want to let it go!<br \/>\nI shall give them scissors to cut their chains.<br \/>\n&nbsp;<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" align=\"center\" style='margin:0;text-align:center;line-height:150%'>\n<span lang=\"EN-GB\"><br \/>\n<font size=\"3\">Page \u2013 166<\/font><\/span><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<\/table>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>15 July 1953 &nbsp; \u201cEach man has some fad or one preferred shibboleth or another, each thinks that he is free from this or that&#8230;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[126],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-4469","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-05-questions-and-answers-volume-05","wpcat-126-id"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/worksofthemotherandsriaurobindo.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/4469","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/worksofthemotherandsriaurobindo.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/worksofthemotherandsriaurobindo.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/worksofthemotherandsriaurobindo.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/worksofthemotherandsriaurobindo.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=4469"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/worksofthemotherandsriaurobindo.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/4469\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/worksofthemotherandsriaurobindo.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=4469"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/worksofthemotherandsriaurobindo.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=4469"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/worksofthemotherandsriaurobindo.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=4469"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}