{"id":4499,"date":"2013-07-13T01:56:26","date_gmt":"2013-07-13T01:56:26","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/localhost\/?p=4499"},"modified":"2013-07-13T01:56:26","modified_gmt":"2013-07-13T01:56:26","slug":"32-14-october-1953-vol-05-questions-and-answers-volume-05","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/worksofthemotherandsriaurobindo.org\/index.php\/02-works-of-the-mother\/01-cwmce\/05-questions-and-answers-volume-05\/32-14-october-1953-vol-05-questions-and-answers-volume-05","title":{"rendered":"-32_14 October 1953.htm"},"content":{"rendered":"<table border=\"0\" cellpadding=\"6\" style=\"border-collapse: collapse\" width=\"100%\">\n<tr>\n<td>\n<div class=\"Section1\">\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"line-height: 150%;margin: 0\">\n<span lang=\"EN-GB\" style='font-weight:700'><font size=\"3\">14 October 1953 <\/font><\/span><br \/>\n<span lang=\"EN-GB\"><br \/>\n&nbsp;<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><i><span lang=\"EN-GB\">&nbsp;<\/span><\/i><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><i><span lang=\"EN-GB\">Q. \u201cIf the Divine that is all love is the<br \/>\nsource of the creation, whence have come all the evils abounding upon earth?\u201d <\/span><\/i><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><i><span lang=\"EN-GB\">&nbsp;<\/span><\/i><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><i><span lang=\"EN-GB\">\u201cAll is from the Divine; but the One<br \/>\nConsciousness, the Supreme has not created the world directly out of itself; a<br \/>\nPower has gone out of it and has descended through many gradations of its workings<br \/>\nand passed through many agents. There are many creators or rather \u2018formateurs\u2019,<br \/>\nform-makers, who have presided over the creation of the world. They are<br \/>\nintermediary agents and I prefer to call them \u2018Formateurs\u2019 and not \u2018Creators\u2019;<br \/>\nfor what they have done is to give the form and turn and nature to matter.<br \/>\nThere have been many, and some have formed things harmonious and benignant and<br \/>\nsome have shaped things mischievous and evil. And some too have been distorters<br \/>\nrather than builders, for they have interfered and spoiled what was begun well<br \/>\nby others.\u201d <\/span><\/i><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" align=\"right\" style='margin:0;text-align:right;line-height:150%'><i><span lang=\"EN-GB\"><font size=\"2\">Questions and Answers 1929 (30 June)<br \/>\n<\/font> <\/span><\/i><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><i><span lang=\"EN-GB\">&nbsp;<\/span><\/i><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><i><span lang=\"EN-GB\">You say, \u201cMany creators or rather<br \/>\n\u2018formateurs\u2019, formmakers, have presided over the creation of the world.\u201d Who<br \/>\nare these \u2018formateurs\u2019? <\/span><\/i><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-GB\">&nbsp;<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-GB\">That<br \/>\ndepends. They have been given many names. All has been done by gradations and<br \/>\nthrough individual beings of all kinds. Each state of being is inhabited by<br \/>\nentities, individualities and personalities and each one has created a world<br \/>\naround him or has contributed to the formation of certain beings upon earth.<br \/>\nThe last creators are those of the vital world, but there are beings of the<br \/>\nOvermind (Sri Aurobindo calls this plane the Overmind), who have created, given<br \/>\nforms, sent out emanations, and<br \/>\n&nbsp;<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" align=\"center\" style='margin:0;text-align:center;line-height:150%'>\n<span lang=\"EN-GB\"><font size=\"3\">Page \u2013 308<\/font><\/span><\/p>\n<div class=\"MsoNormal\" align=\"center\" style='text-align:center'><span lang=\"EN-GB\" style='font-size:10.0pt;color:blue'><\/p>\n<hr size=\"2\" width=\"100%\" align=\"center\">\n<p><\/span><\/div>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-GB\">these<br \/>\nemanations again had their emanations and so on. What I meant is that it is not<br \/>\nthe Divine Will that acted directly on Matter to give to the world the required<br \/>\nform, it is by passing through layers, so to say, planes of the world, as for<br \/>\nexample, the mental plane there are so many beings on the mental plane &#8211; who<br \/>\nare form-makers, who have taken part in the formation of some beings who have<br \/>\nincarnated upon earth. On the vital plane also the same thing happens. <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;text-indent:.25in;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-GB\">For<br \/>\nexample, there is a tradition which says that the whole world of insects is the<br \/>\noutcome of the form-makers of the vital world, and that this is why they take<br \/>\nsuch absolutely diabolical shapes when they are magnified under the microscope.<br \/>\nYou saw the other day, when you were shown the microbes in water? Naturally the<br \/>\npictures were made to amuse, to strike the imagination, but they are based on<br \/>\nreal forms, so magnified, however, that they look like monsters. Almost the<br \/>\nwhole world of insects is a world of microscopic monsters which, had they been<br \/>\nlarger in size, would have been quite terrifying. So it is said these are<br \/>\nentities of the vital world, beings of the vital who created that for fun and<br \/>\namused themselves forming all these impossible beasts which make human life<br \/>\naltogether unpleasant. <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-GB\">&nbsp;<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;text-indent:.5in;line-height:150%'><i><span lang=\"EN-GB\">Did these intermediaries also come out of<br \/>\nthe Divine Power? <\/span><\/i><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-GB\">&nbsp;<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-GB\">Through<br \/>\nintermediaries, yes, not directly. These beings are not in direct contact with<br \/>\nthe Divine (there are exceptions, I mean as a general rule), they are beings<br \/>\nwho are in relation with other beings, who are again in relation with others,<br \/>\nand these with still others, and so on, in a hierarchy, up to the Supreme. <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-GB\">&nbsp;<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;text-indent:.5in;line-height:150%'><i><span lang=\"EN-GB\">If they came out of the Divine, why are<br \/>\nthey evil? <\/span><\/i><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-GB\">&nbsp;<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-GB\">Evil? I<br \/>\nthink I have explained that to you once: just by not remaining under the direct<br \/>\ninfluence of the Divine and<br \/>\n&nbsp;<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" align=\"center\" style='margin:0;text-align:center;line-height:150%'>\n<span lang=\"EN-GB\"><font size=\"3\">Page \u2013 3 09<\/font><\/span><\/p>\n<div class=\"MsoNormal\" align=\"center\" style='text-align:center'><span lang=\"EN-GB\" style='font-size:10.0pt;color:blue'><\/p>\n<hr size=\"2\" width=\"100%\" align=\"center\">\n<p><\/span><\/div>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-GB\">not<br \/>\nfollowing the movement of creation or expansion as willed by the Divine; this<br \/>\nrupture of contact is enough to produce the greatest of disorders, that of<br \/>\ndivision. Well, even the most luminous, the most powerful beings may choose to<br \/>\nfollow their own movement instead of obeying the divine movement. And though in<br \/>\nthemselves they may be quite wonderful and if human beings saw them they would<br \/>\ntake them for the very Godhead, they can, because they follow their own will instead<br \/>\nof working in harmony with the universe, be the source of very great evils,<br \/>\nvery great disorders, very great massive obstructions. But don\u2019t you see, the<br \/>\nquestion is badly put, I laughed just now when I read the question.\u201d <\/span><span lang=\"EN-GB\" style='font-family:\"Lucida Console\"'>\u00b9<\/span><span lang=\"EN-GB\"> It is a childish way of speaking. This<br \/>\nperson says: \u201cIf God is everything in the world, why are there evil things in<br \/>\nthe world?\u201d Now, if she had told me that, I would have simply answered: there<br \/>\nis nothing which is not God, only it is in a disorder. One must try to remedy<br \/>\nit \u2013 God is not love alone, He is all things, and if that appears to us \u2013 to us<br \/>\n\u2013 altogether wrong, it is because it is not arranged properly. There have been<br \/>\nmovements exactly of the kind I spoke to you about. <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;text-indent:.25in;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-GB\">You<br \/>\nmay ask why it happened. Well, certainly it is not the mind, you know, which<br \/>\ncan say why it happened. It happened, that is all. In reality the only thing<br \/>\nthat concerns us is that it has happened. It is perhaps an accident to begin<br \/>\nwith If you look at the thing from a philosophical point of view, it is evident<br \/>\nthat the universe in which we live is a movement among many others and this<br \/>\nmovement follows a law which is its own (and which is perhaps not the same in<br \/>\nthe others), and if the Will was for the world to be built on the principle of<br \/>\nchoice, of the freedom of choice, then one cannot prevent disorderly movements<br \/>\nfrom taking place until knowledge comes and the choice is enlightened. If one<br \/>\nis free to choose, one can also choose bad things, not necessarily the good,<br \/>\nfor if it were a thing decided beforehand, it would no longer be a free choice.<br \/>\n<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;text-indent:.25in;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-GB\">&nbsp;<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;text-indent:.25in;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-GB\" style='font-family:\"Lucida Console\"'><font size=\"2\">\u00b9<\/font><\/span><span lang=\"EN-GB\"><font size=\"2\">If the Divine who is all love be the source of the creation, whence have<br \/>\ncome all the evils abounding upon earth?\u201d<\/font><\/span><span lang=\"EN-GB\"><font size=\"2\">&nbsp;<\/font><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" align=\"center\" style='margin:0;text-align:center;line-height:150%'>\n<span lang=\"EN-GB\"><font size=\"3\">Page \u2013 310<\/font><\/span><\/p>\n<div class=\"MsoNormal\" align=\"center\" style='text-align:center'><span lang=\"EN-GB\" style='font-size:10.0pt;color:blue'><\/p>\n<hr size=\"2\" width=\"100%\" align=\"center\">\n<p><\/span><\/div>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-GB\">You see, when<br \/>\nsuch questions are put, the mind only answers and it reduces the problem, it<br \/>\nreduces it to a more or less elementary mental formula; but that corresponds<br \/>\nonly very vaguely and superficially and incompletely with the reality of<br \/>\nthings. <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;text-indent:.25in;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-GB\">To<br \/>\nbe able to understand, one must become. If you want to understand the why and<br \/>\nhow of the universe, you must identify yourself with the universe. It is not<br \/>\nimpossible but it is not very easy either, particularly for children. <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-GB\">This was<br \/>\none of the most childish questions that she put \u2013 altogether childish: \u201cIf He<br \/>\nis just, why is there injustice? If He is good, why is there wickedness? If He<br \/>\nis love, why is there hatred?\u201d \u2013 But He is all! So He is not merely this or<br \/>\nthat, or only, exclusively this \u2013 He is all. That is, to be more correct, it<br \/>\nshould be said that all is He. There are notions about creation, very<br \/>\nwidespread upon earth, which have been accepted more or less for a long time in<br \/>\nhuman thought, that are quite simplistic! There is \u201csomething\u201d (truly speaking,<br \/>\none does not know what), and then there is a God who puts this something into<br \/>\nform and creates the world out of it. So if you have such notions, you have a<br \/>\njustifiable right to say to this God: \u201cWell, you have indeed created a world,<br \/>\nit\u2019s a pretty one, that world of yours!\u201d Although, according to the story,<br \/>\nafter seven days of labour, he declared that it was very good \u2013 but it was good<br \/>\nfor him. Perhaps it may have amused him immensely, but as for us who are in the<br \/>\nworld, we do not find it good at all! Don\u2019t you see, the conception and the way<br \/>\nof putting it are altogether childish. It is just like the story of the potter<br \/>\nwho puts his pot in shape \u2013 this God is a human being, formidable in<br \/>\nproportions and power, but looking strangely like a man. It is man who makes<br \/>\nGod in his image, not God who makes man in his image! So each time a question<br \/>\nis put in an incomplete or childish way, it is impossible to give an answer to<br \/>\nit truly, for the question is badly put. You say something, you affirm it. But<br \/>\nwhat right have you to assert it? Because you affirm that, you conclude: \u201cSince<br \/>\nthat is this, how does it happen that it is so?\u201d&nbsp;<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" align=\"center\" style='margin:0;text-align:center;line-height:150%'>\n<span lang=\"EN-GB\"><font size=\"3\">Page \u2013 311<\/font><\/span><\/p>\n<div class=\"MsoNormal\" align=\"center\" style='text-align:center'><span lang=\"EN-GB\" style='font-size:10.0pt;color:blue'><\/p>\n<hr size=\"2\" width=\"100%\" align=\"center\">\n<p><\/span><\/div>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-GB\">But \u201cthat<br \/>\nis this\u201d is your statement. It does not mean that it is so! <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;text-indent:.25in;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-GB\">There<br \/>\nis only one single solution to the problem &#8211; not to make any distinction<br \/>\nbetween God and the universe at the origin. The universe is the Divine<br \/>\nprojected in space, and God is the universe at its origin. It is the same thing<br \/>\nunder one aspect or another. And you cannot divide them. It is the opposite<br \/>\nconception to that of the \u201ccreator\u201d and his \u201cwork\u201d. Only, it is very convenient<br \/>\nto speak of the creator and his work, it makes explanations very easy and the<br \/>\nteaching quite elementary. But it is not the truth. And then you say: \u201cHow is<br \/>\nit that God who is all-powerful has allowed the world to be like this?\u201d But it<br \/>\nis your own conception! It is because you yourself happen to be in the midst of<br \/>\na set of circumstances that seems to you unpleasant, so you project that upon<br \/>\nthe Divine and you tell him: \u201cWhy have you made such a world?\u201d \u2013 \u201cI did not<br \/>\nmake it. It is you yourself. And if you become Myself once again, you will no<br \/>\nlonger feel as you do. What makes you feel as you do is that you are no longer<br \/>\nMyself.\u201d This is what He could tell you in answer. And the fact is that when<br \/>\nyou succeed in uniting your consciousness with the divine consciousness, there<br \/>\nis no problem left. Everything appears quite natural and simple and all right<br \/>\nand exactly what it had to be. But when you cut yourself off from the origin<br \/>\nand stand over against Him, then truly everything goes wrong, nothing can go<br \/>\nright! <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;text-indent:.25in;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-GB\">But<br \/>\nif you ask for a logic that pushes things to the extreme end, you question how<br \/>\nit is that the Divine has tolerated parts of his own self to be separated from<br \/>\nhim and all this disorder to be created. You may say that. And I then will<br \/>\nreply: \u201cIf you want to know, it is better to unite yourself with the Divine,<br \/>\nfor that is the only way of knowing why He has done these things.\u201d It is not by<br \/>\nquestioning Him mentally, for your mind cannot understand. And I repeat it,<br \/>\nwhen you reach such an identification, all problems are solved. And this<br \/>\nfeeling that things are not all right and that they should be otherwise, comes<br \/>\njust because<br \/>\n&nbsp;<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" align=\"center\" style='margin:0;text-align:center;line-height:150%'>\n<span lang=\"EN-GB\"><font size=\"3\">Page \u2013 312<\/font><\/span><\/p>\n<div class=\"MsoNormal\" align=\"center\" style='text-align:center'><span lang=\"EN-GB\" style='font-size:10.0pt;color:blue'><\/p>\n<hr size=\"2\" width=\"100%\" align=\"center\">\n<p><\/span><\/div>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-GB\">there is a<br \/>\ndivine will for a constant unfolding in perpetual progress and things that were<br \/>\nmust give place to things that shall be and shall be better than what the<br \/>\nothers were. And the world that was good yesterday is no longer good tomorrow.<br \/>\nThe whole world that could appear absolutely harmonious and perfect at one<br \/>\ntime, well, today it is discordant, no longer harmonious, because now we<br \/>\nconceive and see the possibility of a better world. And if we were to find it<br \/>\nall right we would not do what we ought to do, that is, make the effort needed<br \/>\nfor it to become better. <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;text-indent:.25in;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-GB\">There<br \/>\ncomes a time when all these notions appear so childish! And this happens solely<br \/>\nbecause one is shut up within oneself. With this consciousness which is your<br \/>\nown, which is like a grain of sand in the infinite vastness, you want to know and<br \/>\njudge the infinite? It is impossible. You must first of all come out of<br \/>\nyourself, and then unite with the infinite and only afterwards can you begin to<br \/>\nunderstand what it is, not before. You project your consciousness \u2013 what you<br \/>\nare, the thoughts you have, the capacity of understanding you have \u2013 you<br \/>\nproject this upon the Divine and then say: \u201cThat is all wrong.\u201d I quite<br \/>\nunderstand! But there is no possibility of knowing unless you identify<br \/>\nyourself. I do not see how, for example, a drop of water could tell you what<br \/>\nthe ocean is like. That\u2019s how it is. <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-GB\">&nbsp;<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><i><span lang=\"EN-GB\">\u201cWhen one takes up the human body, one<br \/>\naccepts along with it a mass of these general suggestions, race ideas, race<br \/>\nfeelings of mankind, associations, attractions, repulsions, fears.\u201d <\/span><\/i><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" align=\"right\" style='margin:0;text-align:right;line-height:150%'><i><span lang=\"EN-GB\"><font size=\"2\">Questions and Answers 1929 (30 June)<br \/>\n<\/font> <\/span><\/i><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><i><span lang=\"EN-GB\">&nbsp;When one takes up a human body, is it<br \/>\nnecessary to accept suggestions of fear? <\/span><\/i><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-GB\">&nbsp;<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-GB\">It seems<br \/>\nmore inevitable than necessary!.. One doesn\u2019t even perceive that one is<br \/>\naccepting them. We said the other day that <\/span><br \/>\n<span lang=\"EN-GB\"><br \/>\n<font size=\"3\">&nbsp;<\/font><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" align=\"center\" style='margin:0;text-align:center;line-height:150%'>\n<span lang=\"EN-GB\"><font size=\"3\">Page \u2013 313<\/font><\/span><\/p>\n<div class=\"MsoNormal\" align=\"center\" style='text-align:center'><span lang=\"EN-GB\" style='font-size:10.0pt;color:blue'><\/p>\n<hr size=\"2\" width=\"100%\" align=\"center\">\n<p><\/span><\/div>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-GB\">when a psychic<br \/>\nbeing enters a body, it is as though it fell on its head it is a little stunned<br \/>\nfor a time. So during this period it is under the influence of these<br \/>\nsuggestions without even knowing it. But as soon as it wakes up, it can come<br \/>\nout of that; it is not at all necessary to accept them. Only, one must know<br \/>\nthat they are suggestions. One must be able to separate oneself from the purely<br \/>\nhuman consciousness, the body consciousness. And once you can look at it from<br \/>\nabove, you can free yourself from these suggestions quite well. You can free<br \/>\nyourself from all suggestions, but for that you must rise above them. If that<br \/>\nwere not possible, it would be impossible to do yoga. <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;text-indent:.25in;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-GB\">But<br \/>\nyou do not become aware of it, it is a constant thing. For example, there is<br \/>\nthat formidable collective suggestion of death. But how can you get rid of that<br \/>\nidea unless you are able to create in you an immortal consciousness? Once you<br \/>\nhave created in you the immortal consciousness, you can be freed of the<br \/>\nsuggestion. Otherwise it is not possible. And you are not aware of it because<br \/>\nyou live in it quite normally \u2013 you are full of the movements and ideas<br \/>\nbelonging to the human race, which are not personal to you at all. You are not<br \/>\naware of them because they are very intimately bound up with your<br \/>\nconsciousness. But the moment you can free yourself from this human<br \/>\nconsciousness and enter a domain where, for example, life in the body becomes<br \/>\nalmost an accident \u2013 it can be here, it can be there, it can be over there \u2013<br \/>\nyou are no longer tied to the body. You look at it and say: it is almost like<br \/>\nan accident (it may be a choice also, but most often it is an accident). Then,<br \/>\nfrom that moment you are no longer tied down, for you are conscious in a being<br \/>\nwhich is no longer merely, exclusively human. But till that moment you are not<br \/>\neven aware. You have no means of becoming aware. And if you come to the purely<br \/>\nmental domain, there are such strong ideas; for example, that the infinite<br \/>\ncannot be within the finite, that what begins will surely have an end \u2013 ideas<br \/>\nof this kind which seem wonderfully luminous, and yet are idiocies. But all<br \/>\nthat belongs to the&nbsp;<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" align=\"center\" style='margin:0;text-align:center;line-height:150%'>\n<span lang=\"EN-GB\"><font size=\"3\">Page \u2013 314<\/font><\/span><\/p>\n<div class=\"MsoNormal\" align=\"center\" style='text-align:center'><span lang=\"EN-GB\" style='font-size:10.0pt;color:blue'><\/p>\n<hr size=\"2\" width=\"100%\" align=\"center\">\n<p><\/span><\/div>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify'><span lang=\"EN-GB\"><span>\u00a0<\/span>collective human mentality and there is<br \/>\nnothing more difficult than to drive this out of the head of people who think<br \/>\nthemselves very clever\u2026 Perhaps you have not yet put these problems to<br \/>\nyourselves because you have not yet begun studying philosophy, but when you<br \/>\nbegin, you will see. And this will be given to you as immortal truths which<br \/>\ncannot be touched! Yet this is nonsense. One day I would like.. (<i>turning to Nolini<\/i>) You don\u2019t have the <i>Advent<\/i> here? It is in the <i>Advent<\/i>, that text of Sri Aurobindo\u2019s.<br \/>\nOne day we shall translate it together from English into French. He has made a<br \/>\nwonderful observation upon logic and reason <\/span><span lang=\"EN-GB\" style='font-family:\"Lucida Console\"'>\u00b9<\/span><span lang=\"EN-GB\"> And all that never even crossed your<br \/>\nmind: that these are collective suggestions and one must come out of them. Not<br \/>\nonly does it not appear to you as slavery, but it appears to you as an<br \/>\nillumination. Well, it\u2019s not that at all! <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify'><span lang=\"EN-GB\">&nbsp;<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;text-indent:.5in'><i><span lang=\"EN-GB\">Mother, sometimes we are terribly afraid. What<br \/>\nshould we do in such a case? <\/span><\/i><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify'><span lang=\"EN-GB\">&nbsp;<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify'><span lang=\"EN-GB\">Ah! that<br \/>\ndepends on the nature of the fear. Is it a fear without a cause or is it based<br \/>\non a cause? Because the remedy differs. <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify'><span lang=\"EN-GB\">&nbsp;<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;text-indent:.5in'><i><span lang=\"EN-GB\">It is based on a cause. <\/span><\/i><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify'><span lang=\"EN-GB\">&nbsp;<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify'><span lang=\"EN-GB\">Ah! For<br \/>\nexample, when someone is ill, one is afraid of catching the illness <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify'><span lang=\"EN-GB\">&nbsp;<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;text-indent:.5in'><i><span lang=\"EN-GB\">No, someone is dead. <\/span><\/i><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify'><span lang=\"EN-GB\">&nbsp;<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify'><span lang=\"EN-GB\">And one is<br \/>\nafraid to die. <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;text-indent:.25in'><span lang=\"EN-GB\">&nbsp;<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;text-indent:.25in;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-GB\" style='font-family:\"Lucida Console\"'><font size=\"2\">\u00b9<\/font><\/span><span lang=\"EN-GB\"><font size=\"2\">Perhaps the reference is to the following Aphorism of Sri Aurobindo<br \/>\nquoted in the Advent of August 1953<\/font><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;text-indent:.25in;line-height:150%'>\n<span lang=\"EN-GB\"><font size=\"2\">\u201cLogic is the worst enemy of Truth, as self-righteousness<br \/>\nis the worst enemy of virtue; for the one cannot see its own errors nor the<br \/>\nother its own imperfections.\u201d <\/font><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" align=\"right\" style='margin:0;text-align:right;text-indent:.25in;line-height:150%'><i><br \/>\n<span lang=\"EN-GB\"><font size=\"2\">(Thoughts and Aphorisms: Cent<\/font><\/span><\/i><span lang=\"EN-GB\"><font size=\"2\">.Vol. 17,p.84)<\/font><\/span><span lang=\"EN-GB\"><font size=\"2\">&nbsp;<\/font><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" align=\"center\" style='margin:0;text-align:center;line-height:150%'>\n<span lang=\"EN-GB\"><font size=\"3\">Page \u2013 315<\/font><\/span><\/p>\n<div class=\"MsoNormal\" align=\"center\" style='text-align:center'><span lang=\"EN-GB\" style='font-size:10.0pt;color:blue'><\/p>\n<hr size=\"2\" width=\"100%\" align=\"center\">\n<p><\/span><\/div>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;text-indent:.25in;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-GB\">There<br \/>\nare two remedies. There are many, but two at least are there. In any case, the<br \/>\nuse of a deeper consciousness is essential. One remedy consists in saying that<br \/>\nit is something that happens to everyone (let us take it on that level, yes, it<br \/>\nis a thing that happens to everybody, and therefore, sooner or later, it will<br \/>\ncome and there is no reason why one should be afraid, it is quite a normal<br \/>\nthing. You may add one more idea to this, that according to experience (not<br \/>\nyours but just the collective human experience), circumstances being the same,<br \/>\nabsolutely identical, in one case people die, in another they do not \u2013 why? And<br \/>\nif you push the thing a little further still, you say to yourself that after<br \/>\nall it must depend on something which is altogether outside your consciousness<br \/>\n\u2013 and in the end one dies when one has to die. That is all. When one has to die<br \/>\none dies, and when one has not to die, one does not die. Even when you are in<br \/>\nmortal danger, if it is not your hour to die, you will not die, and even if you<br \/>\nare out of all danger, just a scratch on your foot will be enough to make you<br \/>\ndie, for there are people who have died of a pin-scratch on the foot \u2013 because<br \/>\nthe time had come. Therefore, fear has no sense. What you can do is to rise to<br \/>\na state of consciousness where you can say, \u201cIt is like that, we accept the<br \/>\nfact because it seems to be recognised as an inevitable fact. But I do not need<br \/>\nto worry, for it will come only when it must come. So I don\u2019t need to feel<br \/>\nafraid: when it is not to come, it will not come to me, but when it must come<br \/>\nto me, it will come. And as it will come to me inevitably, it is better I do<br \/>\nnot fear the thing; on the contrary, one must accept what is perfectly<br \/>\nnatural.\u201d This is a well-known remedy, that is to say, very much in use. <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;text-indent:.25in;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-GB\">There<br \/>\nis another, a little more difficult, but better, I believe. It lies in telling<br \/>\noneself: \u201cThis body is not I\u201d, and in trying to find in oneself the part which<br \/>\nis truly one\u2019s self, until one has found one\u2019s psychic being. And when one has<br \/>\nfound one\u2019s psychic being immediately, you understand \u2013 one has the sense of<br \/>\nimmortality. And one knows that what goes out or what<br \/>\n&nbsp;<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" align=\"center\" style='margin:0;text-align:center;line-height:150%'>\n<span lang=\"EN-GB\"><font size=\"3\">Page \u2013 316<\/font><\/span><\/p>\n<div class=\"MsoNormal\" align=\"center\" style='text-align:center'><span lang=\"EN-GB\" style='font-size:10.0pt;color:blue'><\/p>\n<hr size=\"2\" width=\"100%\" align=\"center\">\n<p><\/span><\/div>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-GB\">comes in is<br \/>\njust a matter of convenience: \u201cI am not going to weep over a pair of shoes I<br \/>\nput aside when it is full of holes! When my pair of shoes is worn out I cast it<br \/>\naside, and I do not weep.\u201d Well, the psychic being has taken this body because<br \/>\nit needed to use it for its work, but when the time comes to leave the body,<br \/>\nthat is to say, when one must leave it because it is no longer of any use for<br \/>\nsome reason or other, one leaves the body and has no fear. It is quite a<br \/>\nnatural gesture &#8211; and it is done without the least regret, that\u2019s all. <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;text-indent:.25in;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-GB\">And<br \/>\nthe moment you are in your psychic being, you have that feeling, spontaneously,<br \/>\neffortlessly. You soar above the physical life and have the sense of immortality.<br \/>\nAs for me, I consider this the best remedy. The other is an intellectual,<br \/>\ncommon-sense, rational remedy. This is a deep experience and you can always get<br \/>\nit back as soon as you recover the contact with your psychic being. This is a<br \/>\ntruly interesting phenomenon, for it is automatic. The moment you are in<br \/>\ncontact with your psychic being, you have the feeling of immortality, of having<br \/>\nalways been and being always, eternally. And then what comes and goes &#8211; these<br \/>\nare life\u2019s accidents, they have no importance. Yes, this is the best remedy.<br \/>\nThe other is like the prisoner finding good reasons for accepting his prison.<br \/>\nThis one is like a man for whom there\u2019s no longer any prison. <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;text-indent:.25in;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-GB\">Now,<br \/>\na third thing also one must know, but for this one has to be a mighty yogi. For<br \/>\nthis means knowing that death is not an inevitable thing, it is an accident<br \/>\nwhich has been occurring till now (which seems in any case to have always<br \/>\noccurred till now), and that we have put it into our head and our will to<br \/>\nconquer this accident and overcome it. But it is so terrible, so formidable a<br \/>\nbattle against all the laws of Nature, against all collective suggestions, all<br \/>\nearthly habits, that unless, as I have said, you are a first-rate warrior whom<br \/>\nnothing frightens, it is better not to begin the battle. You must be an<br \/>\nabsolutely intrepid hero, for at every step, at every second you have to fight<br \/>\na battle against all established things. So it is not a very easy<br \/>\n&nbsp;<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" align=\"center\" style='margin:0;text-align:center;line-height:150%'>\n<span lang=\"EN-GB\"><font size=\"3\">Page \u2013 317<\/font><\/span><\/p>\n<div class=\"MsoNormal\" align=\"center\" style='text-align:center'><span lang=\"EN-GB\" style='font-size:10.0pt;color:blue'><\/p>\n<hr size=\"2\" width=\"100%\" align=\"center\">\n<p><\/span><\/div>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-GB\">thing. And<br \/>\neven as an individual it is a battle against oneself, because (I think I have<br \/>\nalready told you this once), if you want your physical consciousness to be in a<br \/>\nstate which admits of physical immortality, you must be free to such an extent<br \/>\nfrom everything which at present represents the physical consciousness that it<br \/>\nbecomes every second a battle. All feelings, all sensations, all thoughts, all<br \/>\nreflexes, all attractions, all repulsions, all existing things, all that forms<br \/>\nthe fabric of our physical life must be overcome, transformed and freed from<br \/>\nall their habits. This is a battle of every second against thousands and<br \/>\nmillions of enemies. Unless you feel you are a hero, it is better not to try.<br \/>\nBecause this solution, well.. I do not know, but I believe I was asked this<br \/>\nquestion once before: \u201cHas anyone succeeded so far?\u201d To tell you the truth I<br \/>\ndon\u2019t know, for I have not met such a person I do not have the feeling that<br \/>\nanyone has succeeded till now. But it is possible. Only, he or she who has done<br \/>\nit has not declared it, at least, not till now. <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;text-indent:.25in;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-GB\">The<br \/>\nother two solutions are safe and sure and within your reach. Now, there is a<br \/>\nsmall remedy which is very very easy. For it is based on a simple personal<br \/>\nquestion of one\u2019s common sense You must observe yourself a little and say that<br \/>\nwhen you are afraid it is as though the fear was attracting the thing you are<br \/>\nafraid of. If you are afraid of illness, it is as though you were attracting<br \/>\nthe illness. If you are afraid of an accident, it is as though you were<br \/>\nattracting the accident. And if you look into yourself and around yourself a<br \/>\nlittle, you will find it out, it is a persistent fact. So if you have just a<br \/>\nlittle common sense, you say: \u201cIt is stupid to be afraid of anything, for it is<br \/>\nprecisely as though I were making a sign to that thing to come to me. If I had<br \/>\nan enemy who wanted to kill me, I would not go and tell him: \u2018You know, it\u2019s me<br \/>\nyou want to kill!\u2019 \u201c It is something like that. So since fear is bad, we won\u2019t<br \/>\nhave it. And if you say you are unable to prevent it by your reason, well, that<br \/>\nshows you have no control over yourselves and must make a little effort to<br \/>\ncontrol yourselves. That is all.<br \/>\n&nbsp;<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" align=\"center\" style='margin:0;text-align:center;line-height:150%'>\n<span lang=\"EN-GB\"><font size=\"3\">Page \u2013 318<\/font><\/span><\/p>\n<div class=\"MsoNormal\" align=\"center\" style='text-align:center'><span lang=\"EN-GB\" style='font-size:10.0pt;color:blue'><\/p>\n<hr size=\"2\" width=\"100%\" align=\"center\">\n<p><\/span><\/div>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;text-indent:.25in;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-GB\">Oh!<br \/>\nThere are many ways of curing oneself of fear. But in reality everyone finds<br \/>\nhis own way, the one good for him. There are people to whom you have simply to say:<br \/>\n\u201cYour fear is a weakness\u201d, and they would immediately find the means to look at<br \/>\nit with contempt, for they have a horror of weakness. There are others, you<br \/>\ntell them: \u201cFear is a suggestion from hostile forces, you must push it away, as<br \/>\nyou drive off hostile forces\u201d, and this is very effective. For each one it is<br \/>\ndifferent. But first of all you must know that fear is a very bad thing, very<br \/>\nbad, it is a dissolvent; it is like an acid. If you put a drop of it on<br \/>\nsomething, it eats into the substance. The first step is not to admit the<br \/>\npossibility of fear. Yes, that\u2019s the first step. I knew people who used to<br \/>\nboast about their fear. These are incurable. That is, quite naturally they<br \/>\nwould say, \u201cAh, just imagine, I was so frightened!\u201d And then what! It is nothing<br \/>\nto be proud of. With such people you can do nothing. <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;text-indent:.25in;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-GB\">However,<br \/>\nwhen once you recognise that fear is neither good nor favourable nor noble nor<br \/>\nworthy of a consciousness a little enlightened, you begin to fight against it.<br \/>\nAnd I say, one man\u2019s way is not another\u2019s; one must find one\u2019s own way; it<br \/>\ndepends on each one. Fear is also a terribly contagious collective thing &#8211;<br \/>\ncontagious, it is much more catching than the most contagious of illnesses. You<br \/>\nbreathe an atmosphere of fear and instantly you feel frightened, without even<br \/>\nknowing why or how, nothing, simply because there was an atmosphere of fear. A<br \/>\npanic at an accident is nothing but an atmosphere of fear spreading round over<br \/>\neverybody. And it is quite curable. There have been numerous cases of a panic<br \/>\nbeing stopped outright simply because some people refused the suggestion and<br \/>\ncould counteract it with an opposite suggestion. For mystics the best cure as<br \/>\nsoon as one begins to feel afraid of something is to think of the Divine and<br \/>\nthen snuggle in his arms or at his feet and leave him entirely responsible for<br \/>\neverything that happens, within, outside, everywhere \u2013 and immediately the fear<br \/>\ndisappears. That is the cure for the mystic. It is the easiest of all. But<br \/>\neverybody<br \/>\n&nbsp;<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" align=\"center\" style='margin:0;text-align:center;line-height:150%'>\n<span lang=\"EN-GB\"><font size=\"3\">Page \u2013 319<\/font><\/span><\/p>\n<div class=\"MsoNormal\" align=\"center\" style='text-align:center'><span lang=\"EN-GB\" style='font-size:10.0pt;color:blue'><\/p>\n<hr size=\"2\" width=\"100%\" align=\"center\">\n<p><\/span><\/div>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-GB\">does not<br \/>\nenjoy the grace of being a mystic. <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-GB\">&nbsp;<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><i><span lang=\"EN-GB\">Sometimes there are latent powers in us of<br \/>\nwhich we are unaware. To do a work, how is one to know whether one is capable<br \/>\nof doing it or not? <\/span><\/i><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-GB\">&nbsp;<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EN-GB\">How can one<br \/>\nknow whether one is capable of doing it or not! By trying. That\u2019s the best<br \/>\nthing. And if you do not succeed immediately, persevere. And you must know that<br \/>\nif a strong urge, a very strong urge to do something comes to you, that means<br \/>\nthis work has something to do with you and you are capable of doing it. But one<br \/>\ncan have powers which are so well hidden that one has to dig long before<br \/>\nfinding them. So you must not get discouraged at the first setback, you must<br \/>\npersist.<br \/>\n&nbsp;<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" align=\"center\" style='margin:0;text-align:center;line-height:150%'>\n<span lang=\"EN-GB\"><font size=\"3\">Page<span>\u00a0<br \/>\n<\/span>-320<\/font><\/span><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<\/table>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>14 October 1953 &nbsp; &nbsp; Q. \u201cIf the Divine that is all love is the source of the creation, whence have come all the evils&#8230;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[126],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-4499","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-05-questions-and-answers-volume-05","wpcat-126-id"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/worksofthemotherandsriaurobindo.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/4499","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/worksofthemotherandsriaurobindo.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/worksofthemotherandsriaurobindo.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/worksofthemotherandsriaurobindo.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/worksofthemotherandsriaurobindo.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=4499"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/worksofthemotherandsriaurobindo.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/4499\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/worksofthemotherandsriaurobindo.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=4499"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/worksofthemotherandsriaurobindo.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=4499"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/worksofthemotherandsriaurobindo.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=4499"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}