{"id":4520,"date":"2013-07-13T01:56:35","date_gmt":"2013-07-13T01:56:35","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/localhost\/?p=4520"},"modified":"2013-07-13T01:56:35","modified_gmt":"2013-07-13T01:56:35","slug":"25-20-june-1956-vol-08-questions-and-answers-volume-08","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/worksofthemotherandsriaurobindo.org\/index.php\/02-works-of-the-mother\/01-cwmce\/08-questions-and-answers-volume-08\/25-20-june-1956-vol-08-questions-and-answers-volume-08","title":{"rendered":"-25_20 June 1956.htm"},"content":{"rendered":"<table border=\"0\" cellpadding=\"6\" style=\"border-collapse: collapse\" width=\"100%\">\n<tr>\n<td>\n<div class=\"Section1\">\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><b><br \/>\n<span style='font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'><font size=\"3\">20 June 1956 <\/font><br \/>\n<font size=\"3\">&nbsp;<\/font><\/span><\/b><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'>\n<span style='font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'><font size=\"3\">&nbsp;<\/font><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><i><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>Sweet Mother, here Sri<br \/>\nAurobindo writes: \u201cAnd yet there is in the heart or behind it a profounder<br \/>\nmystic light\u201d <\/span><\/i><\/b><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" align=\"right\" style='margin:0;text-align:right;line-height:150%'>\n<span><i><span style='font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'><br \/>\n<font size=\"2\">The<br \/>\nSynthesis of Yoga, p. 140 <\/font> <\/span><\/i><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;text-indent:.5in;line-height:150%'><i><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>What is this mystic light?<\/span><\/i><\/b><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>&nbsp;<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>It is love. <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>&nbsp;<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><i><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>But after that, Sri Aurobindo continues:<br \/>\n\u201cwhich, if not what we call intuition <\/span><\/i><\/b><b><i><span lang=\"EL\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>&#8213;<\/span><\/i><\/b><i><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'> for that, though not of the<br \/>\nmind, yet descends through the mind <\/span><\/i><\/b><b><i><span lang=\"EL\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>&#8213;<\/span><\/i><\/b><i><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'> has yet a direct touch upon<br \/>\nTruth and is nearer to the Divine than the human intellect in its pride of<br \/>\nknowledge.\u201d Is there a relation between this mystic light and intuition?<\/span><\/i><\/b><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>&nbsp;<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>It is not intuition. It is knowledge through love, light through<br \/>\nlove, understanding through love. Sri Aurobindo says that it is not intuition,<br \/>\nfor intuition belongs to the intellect at least in its expression, the expression<br \/>\nof intuition is intellectual. While this is a kind of direct knowledge almost<br \/>\nby identity, which comes from love. <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>&nbsp;<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;text-indent:.5in;line-height:150%'><i><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>And \u201cthe inner oracle\u201d? <\/span><span lang=\"EL\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>&#8213;<\/span><\/i><\/b><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>&nbsp;<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>The oracle? That is the power of divination, of foresight, of<br \/>\nunderstanding symbols, and that is in the psychic being. Prophets, for example,<br \/>\ndo not prophesy with the mind, it is through a<br \/>\n<span><i>direct<\/i><\/span> contact, beyond<br \/>\nemotions and sentiments. Sri Aurobindo even says that the Vedas, particularly,<br \/>\nwere not written with the mind and through the head. The form of the hymn<br \/>\nwelled up spontaneously from the psychic being, along with the words.&nbsp;<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" align=\"center\" style='margin:0;text-align:center;line-height:150%'>\n<span style='font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>Page &#8211; 188<\/span><\/p>\n<div class=\"MsoNormal\" align=\"center\" style='text-align:center'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:blue'><\/p>\n<hr size=\"2\" width=\"100%\" align=\"center\">\n<p><\/span><\/div>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;text-indent:.5in;line-height:150%'><i><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>Mother, if someone has the<br \/>\npsychic contact, does that mean that he has this power? <\/span><\/i><\/b><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><b><i><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>&nbsp;<\/span><\/i><\/b><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>More or less, yes. The more perfect the contact, the greater the<br \/>\npower. <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;text-indent:.25in;line-height:150%'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>&nbsp;It also depends on the<br \/>\nouter possibilities of the being. But I have already explained that to you<br \/>\nseveral times, I have already told you that when one enters into contact with<br \/>\none\u2019s psychic, certain faculties develop spontaneously. For instance, there are<br \/>\npeople with no intellectual education who suddenly get quite a remarkable power<br \/>\nof expression, which comes in this way, spontaneously, through the inner<br \/>\ncontact with the psychic being.<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>&nbsp;<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;text-indent:.5in;line-height:150%'><i><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>Sri Aurobindo speaks here of<br \/>\n\u201csecular refrigeration\u201d. <\/span><\/i><\/b><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><b><i><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>&nbsp;<\/span><\/i><\/b><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>What! <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>&nbsp;<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><i><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>He writes: \u201cIt is indeed by the<br \/>\nreligio-ethical sense that the law of universal goodwill or universal<br \/>\ncompassion or of love and service to the neighbour, the Vedantic, the<br \/>\nBuddhistic, the Christian ideal, was created; only by a sort of secular<br \/>\nrefrigeration extinguishing the fervour of the religious element in it could<br \/>\nthe humanitarian ideal disengage itself and become the highest plane of a<br \/>\nsecular system of mental and moral ethics.\u201d <\/span><\/i><\/b><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" align=\"right\" style='margin:0;text-align:right;line-height:150%'>\n<span><i><span style='font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'><br \/>\n<font size=\"2\">Ibid.,<br \/>\np. 142 <\/font> <\/span><\/i><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>&nbsp;<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>Yes, this is the materialistic and purely physical thought which<br \/>\nfreezes and congeals the emotions, takes away all the warmth of the soul, all<br \/>\nthe fervour, all the ardour of the feelings and the religious consciousness,<br \/>\nand makes you coldly reasonable. <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>&nbsp;<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><i><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>Mother, if the heart can be the<br \/>\nmeans of a more direct knowledge, what is the role of the intellect as an<br \/>\nintermediary of knowledge?<\/span><\/i><\/b><i><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>&nbsp;<\/span><\/i><\/b><\/p>\n<p><span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" align=\"center\" style='margin:0;text-align:center;line-height:150%'>\n<\/span><br \/>\n<span style='font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'><span>Page &#8211; 189<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<div class=\"MsoNormal\" align=\"center\" style='text-align:center'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:blue'><\/p>\n<hr size=\"2\" width=\"100%\" align=\"center\">\n<p><\/span><\/div>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>As an intermediary, did you say? <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;text-indent:.25in;line-height:150%'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>&nbsp;For the true role of the<br \/>\nmind is the formation and organisation of action. The mind has a formative and<br \/>\norganising power, and it is that which puts the different elements of<br \/>\ninspiration in order, for action, for organising action. And if it would only<br \/>\nconfine itself to that role, receiving inspirations <\/span><span lang=\"EL\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>&#8213;<\/span><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'> whether from above or from the<br \/>\nmystic centre of the soul <\/span><span lang=\"EL\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>&#8213;<\/span><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'> and simply formulating the plan of action <\/span><span lang=\"EL\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>&#8213;<\/span><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'> in broad outline or in minute<br \/>\ndetail, for the smallest things of life or the great terrestrial organisations <\/span><span lang=\"EL\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>&#8213;<\/span><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'> it would amply fulfil its<br \/>\nfunction.<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;text-indent:.25in;line-height:150%'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>&nbsp;It is not an instrument<br \/>\nof knowledge. <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;text-indent:.25in;line-height:150%'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>&nbsp;But it can use knowledge<br \/>\nfor action, to organise action. It is an instrument of organisation and<br \/>\nformation, very powerful and very capable when it is well developed. <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;text-indent:.25in;line-height:150%'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>&nbsp;One can feel this very<br \/>\nclearly when one wants to organise one\u2019s life, for instance <\/span><span lang=\"EL\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>&#8213;<\/span><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'> to put the different elements<br \/>\nin their place in one\u2019s existence. There is a certain intellectual faculty<br \/>\nwhich immediately puts each thing in its place and makes a plan and organises.<br \/>\nAnd it is not a knowledge that comes from the mind, it is a knowledge which<br \/>\ncomes, as I said, from the mystic depths of the soul or from a higher<br \/>\nconsciousness; and the mind concentrates it in the physical world and organises<br \/>\nit to give a basis of action to the higher consciousness.<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;text-indent:.25in;line-height:150%'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>&nbsp;One has this experience<br \/>\nvery clearly when one wants to organise one\u2019s life. <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;text-indent:.25in;line-height:150%'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>&nbsp;Then, there is another<br \/>\nuse. When one is in contact with one\u2019s reason, with the rational centre of the<br \/>\nintellect, the pure reason, it is a powerful control over all vital impulses.<br \/>\nAll that comes from the vital world can be very firmly controlled by it and<br \/>\nused in a disciplined and organised action. But it must be at the service of<br \/>\nsomething else not work for its own satisfaction. <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;text-indent:.25in;line-height:150%'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>&nbsp;These are the two uses of<br \/>\nthe mind: it is a controlling force, an instrument of control, and it is a<br \/>\npower of organisation. That is its true place.&nbsp;<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" align=\"center\" style='margin:0;text-align:center;text-indent:.25in;line-height:150%'>\n<span style='font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>Page &#8211; 190<\/span><\/p>\n<div class=\"MsoNormal\" align=\"center\" style='text-align:center'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:blue'><\/p>\n<hr size=\"2\" width=\"100%\" align=\"center\">\n<p><\/span><\/div>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;text-indent:.5in;line-height:150%'><i><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>Sweet Mother, can one realise<br \/>\nthe Divine through love alone? <\/span><\/i><\/b><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><b><i><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>&nbsp;<\/span><\/i><\/b><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>Oh! yes, my child, certainly. It is even the most direct way. <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;text-indent:.25in;line-height:150%'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>&nbsp;One can realise the<br \/>\nDivine, that is to say, identify oneself with the Divine, become fully conscious<br \/>\nof the Divine and be an instrument of the Divine. But naturally, one does not<br \/>\nrealise the integral yoga, for it is only along one line. But from the point of<br \/>\nview of identification with the Divine it is even the most direct path. <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>&nbsp;<span>\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 <\/span><i>But<br \/>\nwithout mental development one won\u2019t be able to express the Divine? <\/i><\/b><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify'><b><i><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>&nbsp;<\/span><\/i><\/b><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>One cannot express Him intellectually, but one can express Him<br \/>\nin action, one can express Him in feelings, one can express Him in life. <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>&nbsp;<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" align=\"center\" style='margin:0;text-align:center'><i><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>(Silence)<\/span><\/i><\/b><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>&nbsp;<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify'><i><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>Sweet Mother, sometimes when one<br \/>\nfeels depressed it lasts quite a long time; but when one feels a special kind<br \/>\nof joy, it does not last. <\/span><\/i><\/b><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>&nbsp;<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>Yes, that is very true. <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>&nbsp;<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;text-indent:.5in'><i><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>Then what should one do to make<br \/>\nit last longer? <\/span><\/i><\/b><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>&nbsp;<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>But it is not the same part of the being that has the depression<br \/>\nand the joy. <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;text-indent:.25in;line-height:150%'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>&nbsp;If you are speaking of<br \/>\npleasure, the pleasure of the vital is something very fleeting, and I think<br \/>\nthat in life <\/span><span lang=\"EL\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>&#8213;<\/span><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'> in life as it is at present <\/span><span lang=\"EL\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>&#8213;<\/span><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'> there are more occasions for<br \/>\ndispleasure than for pleasure. Pleasure in itself is extremely fleeting, for if<br \/>\nthe same vibration of pleasure is prolonged a little, it bees unpleasant or<br \/>\neven repulsive <\/span><span lang=\"EL\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>&#8213;<\/span><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'> exactly the same vibration.<\/span><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>&nbsp;<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" align=\"center\" style='margin:0;text-align:center;text-indent:.25in;line-height:150%'>\n<span style='font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>Page &#8211; 191<\/span><\/p>\n<div class=\"MsoNormal\" align=\"center\" style='text-align:center'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:blue'><\/p>\n<hr size=\"2\" width=\"100%\" align=\"center\">\n<p><\/span><\/div>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;text-indent:.25in;line-height:150%'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>Pleasure in itself is something<br \/>\nvery fugitive. But if you are speaking of joy, that is something altogether<br \/>\ndifferent, it is a kind of warmth and illumination in the heart, you see <\/span><span lang=\"EL\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>&#8213; <\/span><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>one may feel joy in the mind<br \/>\nalso, but it is a kind of warmth and beatific illumination occurring somewhere.<br \/>\nThat is a quality which is not yet fully developed and one is rarely in the<br \/>\npsychological state that\u2019s needed to have it. And that is why it is fugitive.<br \/>\nOtherwise joy is constantly there in the truth of the being, in the reality of<br \/>\nthe being, in your true Self, in your soul, in your psychic being, joy is<br \/>\nconstantly there.<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;text-indent:.25in;line-height:150%'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>&nbsp;It has nothing to do with<br \/>\npleasure: it is a kind of inner delight. <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;text-indent:.25in;line-height:150%'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>&nbsp;But one is rarely in a<br \/>\nstate to feel it, unless one has bee fully conscious of one\u2019s psychic being.<br \/>\nThat is why when it comes it is fugitive, for the psychological condition<br \/>\nnecessary to perceive it is not often there. On the other hand, one is almost<br \/>\nconstantly in an ordinary vital state where the least unpleasant thing very<br \/>\nspontaneously and easily brings you depression <\/span><span lang=\"EL\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>&#8213;<\/span><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'> depression if you are a weak<br \/>\nperson, revolt if you are a strong one. Every desire which is not satisfied,<br \/>\nevery impulse which meets an obstacle, every unpleasant contact with outside<br \/>\nthings, very easily and very spontaneously creates depression or revolt, for<br \/>\nthat is the normal state of things <\/span><span lang=\"EL\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>&#8213;<\/span><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'> normal in life as it is today. While joy is an exceptional<br \/>\nstate.<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;text-indent:.25in;line-height:150%'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>&nbsp;And so, pleasure,<br \/>\npleasure which is simply a pleasing sensation <\/span><span lang=\"EL\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>&#8213;<\/span><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'> if it lasts, not only does it<br \/>\nlose its edge, but it ends up by being unpleasant; one can\u2019t bear it long. So,<br \/>\nquite naturally it comes and goes. That is to say, the very thing that gives<br \/>\nyou pleasure <\/span><span lang=\"EL\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>&#8213;<\/span><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'> exactly the same vibration <\/span><span lang=\"EL\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>&#8213;<\/span><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'> after a short while, doesn\u2019t<br \/>\ngive it to you any longer. And if it persists, it becomes unpleasant for you.<br \/>\nThat is why you can\u2019t have pleasure for a long time. <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;text-indent:.25in;line-height:150%'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>&nbsp;The only thing which can<br \/>\nbe lasting is joy, if one enters into contact with the truth of the being which<br \/>\nholds this joy permanently.&nbsp;<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" align=\"center\" style='margin:0;text-align:center;line-height:150%'>\n<span style='font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>Page &#8211; 192<\/span><span style='color:blue'><\/span><\/p>\n<div class=\"MsoNormal\" align=\"center\" style='text-align:center'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:\"Courier New\";color:blue'><\/p>\n<hr size=\"2\" width=\"100%\" align=\"center\">\n<p><\/span><\/div>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><i><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>Mother, in the heart there is a<br \/>\ndouble action: the action of vital impulse and that of pure emotion. What makes<br \/>\nthis mixture possible? <\/span><\/i><\/b><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>&nbsp;<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>How does this mixture come about? <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>&nbsp;<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;text-indent:.5in;line-height:150%'><i><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>For both have their seat in the<br \/>\nheart, don\u2019t they? <\/span><\/i><\/b><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>&nbsp;<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>Not in the same place. <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;text-indent:.25in;line-height:150%'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>&nbsp;It is not our physical<br \/>\nheart, you understand. It is this centre here<br \/>\n<span><i>(Mother points to the middle of<\/i><\/span><br \/>\n<span><i>the<br \/>\nchest).<\/i><\/span> But there are various depths. The more you come to the surface,<br \/>\nthe more is it mixed, naturally, with vital impulses and even purely physical<br \/>\nreactions, purely physical sensations. The deeper you go, the less the mixture.<br \/>\nAnd if you go deep enough, you find the feeling absolutely pure, behind. It is<br \/>\na question of depth. <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;text-indent:.25in;line-height:150%'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>&nbsp;One throws oneself out<br \/>\nall the time; all the time one lives, as it were, outside oneself, in such a<br \/>\nsuperficial sensation that it is almost as though one were outside oneself. As<br \/>\nsoon as one wants even to observe oneself a little, control oneself a little,<br \/>\nsimply know what is happening, one is always obliged to draw back or pull<br \/>\ntowards oneself, to pull inwards something which is constantly like that, on<br \/>\nthe surface. And it is this surface thing which meets all external contacts,<br \/>\nputs you in touch with similar vibrations coming from others. That happens<br \/>\nalmost outside you<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;text-indent:.25in;line-height:150%'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>&nbsp;That is the constant<br \/>\ndispersal of the ordinary consciousness. <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;text-indent:.25in;line-height:150%'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>&nbsp;For instance, take a<br \/>\nmovement, an inspiration coming from the psychic depths of the being <\/span><span lang=\"EL\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>&#8213;<\/span><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'> for it comes even to those who<br \/>\nare not conscious of their psychic <\/span><span lang=\"EL\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>&#8213;<\/span><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'> a kind of inspiration coming from the depths; well, in order to<br \/>\nmake itself perceptible it has to come to the surface. And as it comes to the<br \/>\nsurface, it gets mixed with all sorts of things which have nothing to do with<br \/>\nit but which want to make use of it. As, for instance, all the desires and<br \/>\ncompassions of the vital which, as soon<\/span><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>&nbsp;<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" align=\"center\" style='margin:0;text-align:center;text-indent:.25in;line-height:150%'>\n<span style='font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>Page &#8211; 193<\/span><\/p>\n<div class=\"MsoNormal\" align=\"center\" style='text-align:center'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:\"Courier New\";color:blue'><\/p>\n<hr size=\"2\" width=\"100%\" align=\"center\">\n<p><\/span><\/div>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'>\n<span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>as a force from the<br \/>\ndepths rises to the surface, catch hold of it for their own satisfaction. Or<br \/>\nelse people who live in the mind and want to understand and evaluate their<br \/>\nexperience, to judge it: then it is the mind that seizes upon this inspiration<br \/>\nor this force which rises to the surface, for its own benefit, for its own<br \/>\nsatisfaction <\/span><span lang=\"EL\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>&#8213;<\/span><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'> and it becomes mixed, and that spoils everything. And this<br \/>\nhappens constantly; constantly surface movements creep into the inspiration<br \/>\nfrom the depths and deform it, veil it, defile it, ruin it completely,<br \/>\ndeforming it to such an extent that it is no longer recognisable.<span>\u00a0 <\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>&nbsp;<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><i><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>Why do these external impulses,<br \/>\nwhen they come in contact with the inspiration rising from within, spoil<br \/>\neverything, instead of being transformed<\/span><\/i><\/b><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>? <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>&nbsp;<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>Ah! excuse me, it is a reciprocal movement. And it depends on<br \/>\nthe proportion. The inspiration from within acts, of course. It is not that it<br \/>\nis completely absorbed and destroyed, it isn\u2019t that. Necessarily, it acts but<br \/>\nit becomes mixed, it loses its purity and original power. But all the same<br \/>\nsomething remains, and the result depends on the proportion of the forces, and<br \/>\nthis proportion is very different depending on the individual. <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;text-indent:.25in;line-height:150%'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>&nbsp;There comes a time when<br \/>\none deliberately calls the deep inner inspiration and surrenders to it, when it<br \/>\ncan enter almost completely pure and make you act in accordance with the Divine<br \/>\nWill. <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;text-indent:.25in;line-height:150%'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>&nbsp;The mixture is not<br \/>\nunavoidable; it is only what usually happens. And the proportion is very<br \/>\ndifferent according to the individual. With some, when the psychic within takes<br \/>\na decision and sends out a force, it is quite visible, it is visibly a psychic<br \/>\ninspiration. One can at times see a sort of shadow pass which comes from the<br \/>\nmind or the vital; but these are interventions of no importance which cannot at<br \/>\nall change the nature of the psychic inspiration, if one does not let them have<br \/>\nthe upper hand. <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;text-indent:.25in;line-height:150%'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>&nbsp;None of these things is<br \/>\nirremediable, for otherwise there would be no hope of progress.&nbsp;<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" align=\"center\" style='margin:0;text-align:center;text-indent:.25in;line-height:150%'>\n<span style='font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>Page &#8211; 194<\/span><\/p>\n<div class=\"MsoNormal\" align=\"center\" style='text-align:center'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:\"Courier New\";color:blue'><\/p>\n<hr size=\"2\" width=\"100%\" align=\"center\">\n<p><\/span><\/div>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"line-height: 150%;margin: 0\">\n<span style='font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'><font size=\"2\">At the end of the previous talk, Mother com<\/font><font size=\"2\">&#8211;<\/font><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"line-height: 150%;margin: 0\">\n<span style='font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'><font size=\"2\">mented that the students and sadhaks were<br \/>\n\u201cnot <\/font> <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"line-height: 150%;margin: 0\">\n<span style='font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'><font size=\"2\">very rich in questions\u201d. Thereafter, they<br \/>\nbegan<\/font><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"line-height: 150%;margin: 0\">\n<span style='font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'><span><br \/>\n<font size=\"2\">\u00a0<\/font><\/span><font size=\"2\">to<br \/>\nsend her written questions, which one of<\/font><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"line-height: 150%;margin: 0\">\n<span style='font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'><span><br \/>\n<font size=\"2\">\u00a0<\/font><\/span><font size=\"2\">them<br \/>\nread aloud: <\/font> <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>&nbsp;<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><i><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>It is said: \u201cFollow your soul<br \/>\nand not your mind which leaps at appearances.\u201d How to practise this in everyday<br \/>\nlife? <\/span><\/i><\/b><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>&nbsp;<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>Why, what is the problem? What is the difficulty? <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>&nbsp;<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><i><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>How to put this advice into<br \/>\npractice, this recommendation to follow one\u2019s soul and not one\u2019s mind? <\/span><\/i><\/b><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>&nbsp;<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>This is a purely individual matter. <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;text-indent:.25in;line-height:150%'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>&nbsp;The first condition is to<br \/>\nreceive inspirations from the soul <\/span><span lang=\"EL\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>&#8213; <\/span><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>exactly what we were just speaking about <\/span><span lang=\"EL\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>&#8213;<\/span><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'> for if one does not receive<br \/>\nthem, how can one follow one\u2019s soul? The first condition is to be a little conscious<br \/>\nof one\u2019s soul and receive its inspirations. Then, naturally, it goes without<br \/>\nsaying that one must obey them instead of obeying the reasoning intellect.<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;text-indent:.25in;line-height:150%'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>&nbsp;But how to do it? By what<br \/>\nmethod?&#8230; This is something purely personal. Each one must find his own<br \/>\nmethod. The principle is there; if one wants to apply it, for each one the<br \/>\nmethod is different. It all depends on the extent to which one is conscious of<br \/>\nthe inspirations from the soul, on the degree of identity one has with it. <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;text-indent:.25in;line-height:150%'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>&nbsp;So one can\u2019t give the<br \/>\nsame remedy for everybody.<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>&nbsp;Is that all? <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>&nbsp;<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><i><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>\u201cThe more you give, the more<br \/>\nyou receive,\u201d it is said. Does this apply to physical energy? Should one<br \/>\nundertake physical work which seems beyond one\u2019s capacity? And what should be<br \/>\none\u2019s attitude while doing this kind of work?<\/span><\/i><\/b><i><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>&nbsp;<\/span><\/i><\/b><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" align=\"center\" style='margin:0;text-align:center;line-height:150%'>\n<span style='font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>Page &#8211; 195<\/span><\/p>\n<div class=\"MsoNormal\" align=\"center\" style='text-align:center'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:\"Courier New\";color:blue'><\/p>\n<hr size=\"2\" width=\"100%\" align=\"center\">\n<p><\/span><\/div>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>If one did not spend, one would never receive. The great force a<br \/>\nchild has for growth, for development is that he spends without stint. <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;text-indent:.25in;line-height:150%'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>&nbsp;Naturally, when one<br \/>\nspends, one must recuperate and must have the time that is needed to<br \/>\nrecuperate; but what a child cannot do one day, he can do the next. So if you<br \/>\nnever go beyond the limit you have reached, you will never progress. It is<br \/>\nquite obvious that people who practise physical culture, for example, if they<br \/>\nmake progress, it is just because they gradually exceed, go beyond what they<br \/>\ncould do. <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;text-indent:.25in;line-height:150%'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>&nbsp;It is all a matter of<br \/>\nbalance. And the period of receptivity should be in proportion to the period of<br \/>\nexpenditure. <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;text-indent:.25in;line-height:150%'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>&nbsp;But if one confines<br \/>\noneself to what one can do at a given moment\u2026 First of all it is impossible,<br \/>\nfor if one doesn\u2019t progress, one falls back. Therefore, one must always make a<br \/>\nlittle effort to do a little more than before. Then one is on the upward path.<br \/>\nIf one is afraid of doing too much, one is sure to go down again and lose one\u2019s<br \/>\ncapacities. <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;text-indent:.25in;line-height:150%'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>&nbsp;One must always try a<br \/>\nlittle more, a little better than one did the day before or the previous<br \/>\nmoment. Only, the more one increases one\u2019s effort, the more should one increase<br \/>\none\u2019s capacity of receptivity and the opportunities to receive. For instance,<br \/>\nfrom the purely physical point of view, if one wants to develop one\u2019s muscles,<br \/>\na progressive effort must be made by them, that is to say, a greater and<br \/>\ngreater effort, but at the same time one must do what is needed: massage,<br \/>\nhydrotherapy, etc. to increase at the same time their capacity to receive. <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;text-indent:.25in;line-height:150%'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>&nbsp;And rest. A rest which is<br \/>\nnot a falling into the inconscient <\/span><span lang=\"EL\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>&#8213; <\/span><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>which generally tires you more than it refreshes <\/span><span lang=\"EL\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>&#8213;<\/span><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'> but a conscious rest, a<br \/>\nconcentration in which one opens oneself and absorbs the forces which come, the<br \/>\nuniversal forces. <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;text-indent:.25in;line-height:150%'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>&nbsp;The limits of the body\u2019s<br \/>\npossibilities are so elastic! People who undergo a methodical and scientific<br \/>\ntraining, rational, systematic, arrive at absolutely startling results. They<br \/>\ndemand things from their bodies which, naturally, without training it would be<br \/>\n&nbsp;<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" align=\"center\" style='margin:0;text-align:center;text-indent:.25in;line-height:150%'>\n<span style='font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>Page &#8211; 196<\/span><\/p>\n<div class=\"MsoNormal\" align=\"center\" style='text-align:center'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:\"Courier New\";color:blue'><\/p>\n<hr size=\"2\" width=\"100%\" align=\"center\">\n<p><\/span><\/div>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>quite impossible to do. And certainly, they must gradually go<br \/>\nbeyond what they could do, not only from the point of view of perfection, but also<br \/>\nfrom the point of view of strength. If they have that fear of doing more than<br \/>\nthey are able, of overdoing things, they will never progress. Only, at the same<br \/>\ntime one must do what is necessary for recuperating. That is the whole<br \/>\nprinciple of physical culture. And one sees things which for an ignorant and<br \/>\nuntrained man are absolutely miraculous, performed by bodies which have been<br \/>\nmethodically trained.<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>&nbsp;<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><i><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>What should be done to remember<br \/>\nthe Mother constantly? Should one repeat Her name, remember Her physical form<br \/>\nor think or feel that She is the Divine? Is gratitude for the Divine a form of<br \/>\nremembrance? <\/span><\/i><\/b><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><b><i><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>&nbsp;<\/span><\/i><\/b><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>All this is good. And many other things are good. And it depends<br \/>\non what each one can do. <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;text-indent:.25in;line-height:150%'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>&nbsp;It is a little too<br \/>\npersonal a question, isn\u2019t it? <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;text-indent:.25in;line-height:150%'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>&nbsp;It depends on each one,<br \/>\nit is the same thing. If one generalises, it makes no sense any longer. To<br \/>\nremember, you must not forget, that\u2019s all! <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>&nbsp;<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;text-indent:.5in;line-height:150%'><i><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>Can there be a collective form<br \/>\nof discipline which is self-imposed? <\/span><\/i><\/b><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><b><i><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>&nbsp;<\/span><\/i><\/b><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>But very often it happens that people form groups and make rules<br \/>\nfor themselves. That is a discipline which is self-imposed. It constantly<br \/>\nhappens. All societies, secret or other, and all initiation groups have always<br \/>\ndone things like that: they make rules which they impose upon themselves and<br \/>\nusually follow very strictly. And there are even terrible penalties and quite<br \/>\ndisastrous consequences when, after having taken the oath, one wants to leave<br \/>\nthe discipline. This happens constantly in the world.<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;text-indent:.25in;line-height:150%'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>&nbsp;One could discuss the<br \/>\neffectiveness, that would be another thing. But in any case, the question is<br \/>\nnot \u201cwhether one can do&nbsp;it\u201d<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" align=\"center\" style='margin:0;text-align:center;text-indent:.25in;line-height:150%'>\n<span style='font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>Page &#8211; 197<\/span><\/p>\n<div class=\"MsoNormal\" align=\"center\" style='text-align:center'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:\"Courier New\";color:blue'><\/p>\n<hr size=\"2\" width=\"100%\" align=\"center\">\n<p><\/span><\/div>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><span lang=\"EL\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>&#8213;<\/span><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'> it does happen, it is something which has been happening since<br \/>\nthe most ancient times. Always man has tried to form groups in one way or<br \/>\nanother and impose laws on these groups.<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;text-indent:.25in;line-height:150%'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>&nbsp;And if it is a mystic<br \/>\ngroup, they are mystic laws. <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>&nbsp;<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><i><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>Perhaps they are imposed on<br \/>\nthose who want to enter the group; then they are not self-imposed, are they? <\/span><\/i><\/b><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>&nbsp;<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>But one enters the group freely, and therefore one accepts them.<br \/>\nUsually, in those groups the first thing they do is to tell you, \u201cThese are the<br \/>\nlaws, the rules of the group, do you accept them or not?\u201d If you don\u2019t accept<br \/>\nthem, you don\u2019t enter; if you accept them, it is you who impose them on<br \/>\nyourself. You are not forced into a group like that! It is not like being<br \/>\nsubject, for example, to the atavism of the family in which you are born. That<br \/>\nis imposed from outside. You are born in a family and are subject to the<br \/>\natavism, the laws of a rigid family atavism, which is imposed from outside.<br \/>\nFor, almost universally, the permission of the one who is brought into the<br \/>\nworld or his acceptance is never asked: you are brought here by force, the<br \/>\nenvironment is imposed on you by force, the laws of the atavism of the milieu<br \/>\nby force, and indeed you do what you can with them <\/span><span lang=\"EL\" style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>&#8213;<\/span><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'> the best you can, let us hope!<br \/>\nBut when it is a group of friends or a society, unless you have no personal<br \/>\nwill and are carried away by someone else whom you obey, it is you yourself who<br \/>\ndecide whether you accept these laws or not.<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;text-indent:.25in;line-height:150%'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>&nbsp;It is obvious that the<br \/>\nquestion becomes a little more subtle when it is a matter of religion, for that<br \/>\nis a part of the imposition on the child before he is born. If he is born in a<br \/>\nreligion, that religion is imposed upon him. Obviously, according to the true<br \/>\nrules, there is an age when, supposedly, after having been instructed in the<br \/>\nreligion in which you are born, you choose to be in it or not. But very few<br \/>\npeople have the capacity for individual choice. It is the custom of the family<br \/>\nor the environment in which they live, and they follow it blindly, for it is<br \/>\nmore for com<\/span><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>fortable<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" align=\"center\" style='margin:0;text-align:center;line-height:150%'>\n<span style='font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>Page &#8211; 198<\/span><\/p>\n<div class=\"MsoNormal\" align=\"center\" style='text-align:center'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:\"Courier New\";color:blue'><\/p>\n<hr size=\"2\" width=\"100%\" align=\"center\">\n<p><\/span><\/div>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style='margin:0;text-align:justify;line-height:150%'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>&nbsp;than reacting; one is born into it and one is almost<br \/>\nforced to follow that religion. One must have a very considerable strength and<br \/>\nindependence of character to come out of it, for usually you have to break<br \/>\nthrough with much motion and that has serious repercussions on your life.&nbsp;<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" align=\"center\" style='margin:0;text-align:center;line-height:150%'>\n<span style='font-family:\"Times New Roman\"'>Page &#8211; 199<\/span><\/p>\n<div class=\"MsoNormal\" align=\"center\" style='text-align:center'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:\"Courier New\";color:blue'><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" align=\"right\" style=\"margin:0;text-indent: .25in;border: medium none;padding: 0in;line-height:150%\">\n  <b><font size=\"2\"><\/b><\/p>\n<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<\/table>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>20 June 1956 &nbsp; &nbsp; Sweet Mother, here Sri Aurobindo writes: \u201cAnd yet there is in the heart or behind it a profounder mystic light\u201d&#8230;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[127],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-4520","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-08-questions-and-answers-volume-08","wpcat-127-id"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/worksofthemotherandsriaurobindo.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/4520","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/worksofthemotherandsriaurobindo.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/worksofthemotherandsriaurobindo.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/worksofthemotherandsriaurobindo.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/worksofthemotherandsriaurobindo.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=4520"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/worksofthemotherandsriaurobindo.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/4520\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/worksofthemotherandsriaurobindo.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=4520"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/worksofthemotherandsriaurobindo.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=4520"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/worksofthemotherandsriaurobindo.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=4520"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}