{"id":5646,"date":"2013-07-13T02:03:25","date_gmt":"2013-07-13T02:03:25","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/localhost\/?p=5646"},"modified":"2013-07-13T02:03:25","modified_gmt":"2013-07-13T02:03:25","slug":"089-august-12-1972-vol-13-volume-13","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/worksofthemotherandsriaurobindo.org\/index.php\/02-works-of-the-mother\/03-agenda\/13-volume-13\/089-august-12-1972-vol-13-volume-13","title":{"rendered":"-089_August 12_1972.htm"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><H3>August 12, 1972<\/H3><br \/>\n<P>Nothing to ask?<\/p>\n<p><i>Is there anything new?<\/i><\/p>\n<p><P>Oh, it&#8217;s always new! And you, what&#8217;s new with you?<\/p>\n<p><i>Nothing, Mother, I&#8217;m a little upset about my lack of conscious<\/i><\/p>\n<p><i>ness during sleep&#8230;. I wonder what on earth I do at night!<\/i><\/p>\n<p align=\"center\"><font size=\"2\">Page 267<\/font><\/p>\n<hr>\n<p><P align=\"right\"><i>(after a silence)<\/i><br \/>\n<P>Does anyone see Pavitra at night?<\/p>\n<p><i>(Sujata:) I see him almost every night.<\/i><\/p>\n<p><P>Oh, you see him&#8230;. Me, I see him just as when he was here; and he&#8217;s busy doing things &#8211; a totally conscious and active life. Last night, he was speaking to some people, organizing meetings, he was extraordinarily active.<br \/>\n<P>Besides, he was among people who still have a physical body, who were sleeping, I mean who had come out of their body. He was so conscious! I&#8217;ve never seen anyone so &#8230; so materially conscious, I could say. Exactly as if he were continuing his work. Mainly seeing people, talking to them, bringing them together&#8230;.<br \/>\n<P>You know that when he died, at the time of his death, he entered me?&#8230; [[See <i>Agenda X, <\/i>May 17, 1969. ]]  I did my best to prevent him from blending [with Mother]: I kept him like this <i>(gesture as an individual form). <\/i>And after he recovered from the shock, he spontaneously came out and started to work. I see him almost every night.<br \/>\n<P>I&#8217;ve never seen anyone remain so much like himself. It&#8217;s truly remarkable.<br \/>\n<P align=\"right\"><i>(Mother plunges in)<\/i><\/p>\n<p><i>(Sujata:) But, Mother, how does one get rid of sadness? &#8230; I<\/i><\/p>\n<p><i>&nbsp;see him very often at night, you see, almost every night, but I <\/i>\n  <\/p>\n<p><i>am still sad not to be able to see him with my physical eyes&#8230;.<\/i><\/p>\n<p><i>&nbsp;What to do, Mother? [[Sujata was Pavitra&#8217;s personal secretary for thirteen years, from 1949 to 1962, and continued to work with him daily up to the end. ]] <\/i>\n  <\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><P><i>(Mother smiles)<\/i> You see him, but there isn&#8217;t any contact between you?<\/p>\n<p><i>We work together, Mother, like we used to.<\/i><\/p>\n<p><P>So? So?<\/p>\n<p><i>Yes, Mother, but when I&#8217;m awake like I am now, I&#8230;.<\/i><\/p>\n<p><P><i>(Mother laughs)<\/i> It means you are still quite young!<br \/>\n<P align=\"center\"><font size=\"2\">Page 268<\/font><\/p>\n<hr>\n<p><i>No, Mother!<\/i><\/p>\n<p><P>Yes, you are.<\/p>\n<p><i>For my elder brother too, you know, he lived far away, I didn&#8217;t<\/i><\/p>\n<p><i>&nbsp;see<br \/>\n  him, but now that he has passed away, I know I will never<\/i><\/p>\n<p><i>&nbsp;see him again in the same form, so I am sad, very sad, Mother.<\/i><\/p>\n<p><i>&nbsp;What can I do?<\/i><\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><P>Well, that&#8217;s strange!<\/p>\n<p><i>I don&#8217;t know, it&#8217;s like a pain in the heart, Mother. I can&#8217;t get<\/i><\/p>\n<p><i>&nbsp;rid<br \/>\n  of it, you see. I don&#8217;t know what to do.<\/i><\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><P>You must go deeper. You feel sad because you are in a very superficial consciousness &#8211; you must go deeper, into a deeper consciousness.<\/p>\n<p><i>You mean in the waking state? When I am awake like now?<\/i><\/p>\n<p><P>Yes, oh yes! It&#8217;s when you are awake that you must try to reach your psychic consciousness. When you are in contact with your psychic consciousness, there&#8217;s no more sadness.<br \/>\n<P align=\"right\"><i>(silence)<\/i><br \/>\n<P>You&#8217;re still quite young really! <i>(laughter)<\/i> How old are you?<\/p>\n<p><i>I am forty-six, Mother.<\/i><\/p>\n<p><P>You have a twenty-five-year-old&#8217;s consciousness.<\/p>\n<p><i>Ah!<\/i><\/p>\n<p><i>(Satprem protests:) No, eighteen.<\/i><\/p>\n<p><P>It doesn&#8217;t matter! It doesn&#8217;t matter&#8230;.<P align=\"center\"><font size=\"2\">Page 269<\/font><P align=\"center\">&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><\/b><\/p>\n<p align=\"right\" style=\"margin-top: 0;margin-bottom: 0\">&nbsp;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>August 12, 1972 Nothing to ask? Is there anything new? Oh, it&#8217;s always new! And you, what&#8217;s new with you? 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