{"id":5647,"date":"2013-07-13T02:03:25","date_gmt":"2013-07-13T02:03:25","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/localhost\/?p=5647"},"modified":"2013-07-13T02:03:25","modified_gmt":"2013-07-13T02:03:25","slug":"037-march-25-1972-vol-13-volume-13","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/worksofthemotherandsriaurobindo.org\/index.php\/02-works-of-the-mother\/03-agenda\/13-volume-13\/037-march-25-1972-vol-13-volume-13","title":{"rendered":"-037_March 25_1972.htm"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><H3>March 25, 1972<\/H3><br \/>\n<P>Did you receive the last answers to T.J. [the &quot;Notes&quot;]?<br \/>\n<P>I think there were one or two, I don&#8217;t quite remember.<\/p>\n<p><i>The last one I received is this one:<\/i><\/p>\n<p>The truth, which man has vainly sought to know,<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;will be the<br \/>\n  privilege of the new race, the race of<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;tomorrow, the superman&#8230;.<\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><P>Is that all ? &#8230; See if there is something you can use&#8230;.<\/p>\n<p><i>Yes, certainly there is! [[This &quot;Note&quot; is the last one Satprem ever received from the disciple to whom Mother was sending her answers. A strange wind seemed to be blowing over those who were connected with the work Mother was doing with Satprem; though not acting in collusion, they all seemed bent on obstructing that work, as will become apparent later. Perhaps this was the beginning of the &quot;tidal wave&quot; Satprem had seen in his dream. ]] <\/i><\/p>\n<p><p align=\"center\"><font size=\"2\">Page 97<\/font><\/p>\n<hr>\n<p><P align=\"right\"><i>(silence)<\/i><\/p>\n<p><i>Sujata told me about the experience you had the other day,<\/i><\/p>\n<p><i>&nbsp;that<br \/>\n  vision you had of your body, the transitional body.<\/i><\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><P>Yes, I WAS like that. It was me; I didn&#8217;t look at myself in a mirror, I saw myself like this <i>(Mother bends her head to look at her body), <\/i>I was &#8230; I just was like that.<br \/>\n<P>That&#8217;s the first time. It was around four in the morning, I think. And perfectly natural &#8211; I mean, I didn&#8217;t look in a mirror, it felt perfectly natural. I only remember what I saw <i>(gesture from the chest to the waist). I <\/i>was covered only with veils, so I only saw&#8230;. What was very different was the torso, from the chest to the waist: it was neither male nor female.<br \/>\n<P>But it was lovely, my form was extremely svelte and slim &#8211; slim but not thin. And the skin was very white, just like my skin. A lovely form. And no sex &#8211; you couldn&#8217;t tell: neither male nor female. The sex had disappeared.<br \/>\n<P>The same here <i>(Mother points to her chest), <\/i>all that was flat. I don&#8217;t know how to explain it. There was an outline reminiscent of what is now, but with no forms <i>(Mother touches her chest), <\/i>not even as much as a man&#8217;s. A very white skin, very smooth. Practically no abdomen to speak of. And no stomach. All that was slim.<br \/>\n<P>I didn&#8217;t pay any special attention, you see, because I was that: it felt perfectly natural to me. That&#8217;s the first time it happened, it was the night before last; but last night I didn&#8217;t see anything. That was the first and the last time so far.<\/p>\n<p><i>But this form is in the subtle physical, isn&#8217;t it?<\/i><\/p>\n<p><P>It must be already like that in the subtle physical.<\/p>\n<p><i>But how will it pass into the physical?<\/i><\/p>\n<p><P>That&#8217;s the question I don&#8217;t know&#8230;. I don&#8217;t know.<br \/>\n<P>I don&#8217;t know.<br \/>\n<P>Also, clearly there was none of the complex digestion we have now, or the kind of elimination we have now. It didn&#8217;t work that way.<br \/>\n<P>But how? &#8230; Food is already obviously very different and becoming more and more so &#8211; glucose, for instance, or substances that don&#8217;t require an elaborate digestion. But how will the body itself change? &#8230; That I don&#8217;t know. I don&#8217;t know.<br \/>\n<P align=\"center\"><font size=\"2\">Page 98<\/font><\/p>\n<hr>\n<p><P>You see, I didn&#8217;t look to see how it worked, for it was completely natural to me, so I can&#8217;t describe it in detail. Simply, it was neither a woman&#8217;s body nor a man&#8217;s &#8211; that much is certain. And <i>the outline <\/i>was fairly similar to that of a very young person. There was a faint suggestion of a human form <i>(Mother draws a form in the air): <\/i>with a shoulder and a waist. Just a hint of it.<br \/>\n<P>I see it but&#8230;. I saw it exactly as you see yourself, I didn&#8217;t even look at myself in the mirror. And I had a sort of veil, which I wore to cover myself.<br \/>\n<P>It was my way of being (there was nothing surprising in it), my natural way of being.<br \/>\n<P>That must be how it is in the subtle physical.<\/p>\n<p><i>But what&#8217;s mysterious is the transition from one to the other.<\/i><\/p>\n<p><P>Yes &#8211; how?<br \/>\n<P>But it&#8217;s the same mystery as the transition from chimpanzee to man.<\/p>\n<p><i>Oh, no, Mother! It&#8217;s more colossal than that! It&#8217;s more colossal<\/i><\/p>\n<p><i>&nbsp;for,<br \/>\n  after all, there isn&#8217;t that much difference between a chim<\/i><\/p>\n<p><i>panzee and a man.<\/i><\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><P>But there wasn&#8217;t such a difference in the appearance either <i>(Mother draws a form in the air): <\/i>there were shoulders, arms, legs, a body, a waist. Similar to ours. There was only&#8230;.<\/p>\n<p><i>Yes, but I mean the way a chimpanzee functions and the way a man functions are the same.<\/i><\/p>\n<p><P>They are the same.<\/p>\n<p><i>Well, yes! They digest the same, breathe the same&#8230;. Whereas here&#8230;.<\/i><\/p>\n<p><P>No, but here too there must have been breathing. The shoulders were strikingly broad <i>(gesture), <\/i>in contrast. That&#8217;s important. But the chest was neither feminine nor even masculine: only reminiscent of it. And all that &#8211; stomach, abdomen and the rest &#8211; was simply an <i>outline, <\/i><br \/>\na very slender and harmonious form, which certainly wasn&#8217;t used for the purpose<br \/>\nwe now use our bodies.<P>The two different things &#8211; totally different &#8211; were<br \/>\nprocreation,<P align=\"center\"><font size=\"2\">Page 99<\/font><\/p>\n<hr>\n<p><P>&nbsp;which was no longer possible, and food. Though even our present food is<br \/>\nmanifestly not the same as that of chimpanzees or even the first humans; it&#8217;s<br \/>\nquite different. So now, it seems we have to find a food that doesn&#8217;t require<br \/>\nall this digesting&#8230;. Not exactly liquid, but not solid either. And there&#8217;s<br \/>\nalso the question of the mouth &#8211; I don&#8217;t know about that &#8211; and the teeth?<br \/>\nNaturally, chewing should no longer be necessary, and therefore teeth wouldn&#8217;t<br \/>\nbe either&#8230;. But there has to be something to replace them. I haven&#8217;t the<br \/>\nslightest idea what the face looked like. But it didn&#8217;t seem too, too unlike<br \/>\nwhat it is now.<br \/>\n<P>What will change a great deal, of course &#8211; it had acquired a prominent role &#8211; is breathing. That being depended much on it.<\/p>\n<p><i>Yes, he probably absorbs energies directly.<\/i><\/p>\n<p><P>Yes. There will probably be intermediary beings who won&#8217;t last, you see, just as there were intermediary beings between the chimpanzee and man.<br \/>\n<P>But I don&#8217;t know, something has to happen that has never before happened.<br \/>\n<P>Yes.<br \/>\n<P align=\"right\"><i>(silence)<\/i><\/p>\n<p><i>Sometimes I have a sort of feeling that the time of realization<\/i><\/p>\n<p><i>&nbsp;is<br \/>\n  very close.<\/i><\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><P>Yes, but how?<\/p>\n<p><i>Yes, how &#8211; we don&#8217;t know.<\/i><\/p>\n<p><P>Is this <i>(Mother points to her body) <\/i>going to change? It either has to change or else follow the old, ordinary pattern of coming undone and then being redone again&#8230;. I don&#8217;t know. True, life can be greatly prolonged, there have been examples, but&#8230;. I don&#8217;t know.<br \/>\n<P>I don&#8217;t know.<\/p>\n<p><i>Several times I felt that instead of a transformation, there will<\/i><\/p>\n<p><i>&nbsp;be<br \/>\n  a concretization of the other body.<\/i><\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><P>Ahh! &#8230; But how?<br \/>\n<P><\/p>\n<p><i>We don&#8217;t know the process either. But instead of this body <\/i><\/p>\n<p align=\"center\"><font size=\"2\">Page 100<\/font><\/p>\n<hr>\n<p><i>becoming the other, the other body will take the place of this<\/i><\/p>\n<p><i>&nbsp;one.<\/i><\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><P>Yes, but how?<\/p>\n<p><i>How, I don&#8217;t know.<\/i><\/p>\n<p><P align=\"right\"><i>(after a silence)<\/i><br \/>\n<P>Yes, understandably, if the body I had two nights ago were to materialize&#8230;. But how? Do you want to meditate?<br \/>\n<P align=\"right\"><i>(Mother goes into contemplation)<\/i><br \/>\n<P>We know nothing! It&#8217;s amazing how we know NOTHING.<br \/>\n<P align=\"right\"><i>(Satprem prepares to leave,<br \/>Sujata draws near to Mother)<\/i><\/p>\n<p><i>(Sujata:) You know, Mother, in his poem &quot;Transformation,<\/i><\/p>\n<p><i>&nbsp;Sri Aurobindo&#8217;s opening lines are:<\/i><\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p>My breath runs in a subtle rhythmic stream <br \/>It fills my members with a might divine &#8230; [[<i>Collected Poems<\/i>, V.161. ]] <\/p>\n<p>Breathing, yes, that&#8217;s important. &quot;A might&quot;?<\/p>\n<p><i>&quot;Might,&quot; yes, Mother.<\/i><\/p>\n<p><P align=\"right\"><i>(Mother caresses Sujata&#8217;s cheeks)<\/i><br \/>\n<P>&nbsp;<P align=\"center\"><font size=\"2\">Page 101<\/font><\/p>\n<p><\/b><\/p>\n<p align=\"right\" style=\"margin-top: 0;margin-bottom: 0\">&nbsp;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>March 25, 1972 Did you receive the last answers to T.J. [the &quot;Notes&quot;]? I think there were one or two, I don&#8217;t quite remember. 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