{"id":5660,"date":"2013-07-13T02:03:29","date_gmt":"2013-07-13T02:03:29","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/localhost\/?p=5660"},"modified":"2013-07-13T02:03:29","modified_gmt":"2013-07-13T02:03:29","slug":"075-june-24-1972-vol-13-volume-13","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/worksofthemotherandsriaurobindo.org\/index.php\/02-works-of-the-mother\/03-agenda\/13-volume-13\/075-june-24-1972-vol-13-volume-13","title":{"rendered":"-075_June 24_1972.htm"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><H3>June 24, 1972<\/H3><br \/>\n<P align=\"center\"><i>(Mother has not been well lately. She listens to Satprem read<\/i><P align=\"center\"><i>&nbsp;the<br \/>\nconversation of May 6, 1972 for the next Bulletin: &quot;A golden<\/i><P align=\"center\"><i>&nbsp;force<br \/>\npressing down on the earth&#8230;. An absolutely material<\/i><P align=\"center\"><i>&nbsp;Power,<br \/>\nbut with no need for any material means&#8230;. A world<\/i><P align=\"center\"><i>is<br \/>\ntrying to be born into this world &quot;)<\/i><br \/>\n<P>What you&#8217;ve written is very good, it&#8217;s far better than what I said!<\/p>\n<p><i>(Satprem, somewhat flabbergasted:) But it&#8217;s the exact trans<\/i><\/p>\n<p><i><br \/>\n  cription of what you said, Mother!!<\/i><\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><P align=\"right\"><i>(Mother laughs,<\/i><P align=\"right\"><i>&nbsp;unconvinced)<\/i><br \/>\n<P>This way it&#8217;s turned out very good.<\/p>\n<p><i>But it&#8217;s exactly what you said! I just added a few commas and<\/i><\/p>\n<p><i>&nbsp;colons,<br \/>\n  that&#8217;s all [laughter], and the paragraphs. But that&#8217;s all!<\/i><\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><P>And that&#8217;s what I experience more and more clearly and precisely.<br \/>\n<P align=\"center\"><font size=\"2\">Page 212<\/font><\/p>\n<hr>\n<p><P align=\"right\"><i>(silence<br \/>Satprem offers a flower to Mother, <br \/>&quot;Supramental Light in the Subconscient.&quot;<br \/> Mother keeps it by her side)<\/i><br \/>\n<P>Do you want to ask something?<\/p>\n<p><i>I think Sujata has something to ask you.<\/i><\/p>\n<p><P>Good.<\/p>\n<p><i>(Sujata:) Mother, the other day you told me that for those who<\/i><\/p>\n<p><i>&nbsp;have<br \/>\n  sincerely given themselves to the Divine, for such persons<\/i><\/p>\n<p><i>&nbsp;what has to be done is done.<\/i><\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><P>Yes, yes.<\/p>\n<p><i>And you went on to say, &quot;If such a person asks something for<\/i><\/p>\n<p><i>&nbsp;somebody<br \/>\n  else, that too is done.&quot;<\/i><\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><P>Yes, but not so completely.<br \/>\n<P>What is unreceptive in that person distorts the Action.<br \/>\n<P>Take for example someone who is ill and BELIEVES in the reality of his illness; the effect of the Action is lessened in proportion to his wrong belief.<br \/>\n<P>It&#8217;s hard to explain.<br \/>\n<P>But what did you want to ask?<\/p>\n<p><i>(With a little mischievous smile:) I wanted to know, Mother, if I, for example, pray to Sri Aurobindo that &quot;Mother be well,&quot; does it help you?<\/i><\/p>\n<p><P>But Mother IS well!<br \/>\n<P>Yesterday afternoon, for instance, I vomited &#8211; I wasn&#8217;t sick. I don&#8217;t know how to explain it&#8230;. The way to take food had to change. I mean, this happened to make me understand the attitude I had to have in taking food. But I wasn&#8217;t sick: it was AS IF I were sick. It was just meant to make me understand the attitude with which to eat. It was like an object lesson &#8211; I understood. If I hadn&#8217;t vomited, I wouldn&#8217;t have paid any attention.<br \/>\n<P>It&#8217;s very complicated, mon petit!<br \/>\n<P>So the people around me should have a certain bearing towards<P align=\"center\"><br \/>\n<font size=\"2\">Page 213<\/font><\/p>\n<hr>\n<p><P>&nbsp;me, take certain precautions; and in order to do so they must think and believe certain things, otherwise they won&#8217;t do it. And that&#8217;s how things happen quite naturally. <i>(Turning to Satprem) <\/i>I don&#8217;t know if you follow?<\/p>\n<p><i>Yes, I do.<\/i><\/p>\n<p><P>Everything is organized down to the minutest detail, but it&#8217;s not preplanned as we do with our ordinary consciousness: the Force Simply PRESSES down and produces the required result. I could almost say: by any means whatsoever &#8211; any necessary means. It&#8217;s a Force that is PRESSING down upon the earth and making people do the most improbable things, those who seem the worst as well as the best, just to &#8230; to obtain the necessary result.<br \/>\n<P>More and more it is so.<br \/>\n<P>All our notions of good and evil are&#8230;.<br \/>\n<P>We have to keep reacting to things, precisely the reactions based on &quot;good&quot; and &quot;evil,&quot; the human conception of good and evil (it isn&#8217;t exactly a human &quot;conception,&quot; but an approximation of the Harmony) &#8230;.<br \/>\n<P align=\"right\"><i>(Mother plunges in<\/i><P align=\"right\"><i>&nbsp;and comes back moving her hand, <br \/>as if waves were going through her fingertips)<\/i><br \/>\n<P>Vibrations &#8230; vibrations transmitting the Divine without distortion. That&#8217;s it. That&#8217;s what is needed. And depending on circumstances or people, it takes one form or another &#8211; you understand?<\/p>\n<p><i>Yes, Mother, I understand!<\/i><\/p>\n<p><P>Everything we say is said using old ways of speaking.<br \/>\n<P align=\"right\"><i>(silence)<\/i><br \/>\n<P>The Action is evident&#8230;. And it is the ego&#8217;s authority which is disappearing &#8211; increasingly disappearing. With total acceptance, you know, one that doesn&#8217;t even need to understand. We always want to understand in the old mental way &#8211; there&#8217;s NO NEED to understand. An acceptance like this <i>(gesture, hands open).<\/i><br \/>\n<P>Under that Pressure, the old remnants of authority, the remnants of the ego&#8217;s authority should disappear and be replaced by this <i>(same gesture, hands open): <\/i>a receptivity and obedience (not<P align=\"center\"><br \/>\n<font size=\"2\">Page 214<\/font><\/p>\n<hr>\n<p><P>&nbsp;&quot;obedience,&quot; because there is no need to understand): to be impelled exclusively by the Divine. This in place of the ego. The last traces of the ego getting erased, and &#8230;<i> (gesture, hands open) <\/i>being replaced by &#8230; <i>(same gesture).<\/i><br \/>\n<P>I continually have the feeling (fifty times a day, perhaps) of being a little baby <i>(gesture, kicking hands and legs), <\/i>completely wrapped in and tossed about by the divine forces! <i>(laughter) <\/i>Exactly like that.<br \/>\n<P>There are still&#8230;. It isn&#8217;t completely transparent, naturally, there still remain some old things, the ego&#8217;s old rule over the body, which causes grating and friction, but otherwise &#8230; otherwise just like a baby!<br \/>\n<P>Like a baby.<br \/>\n<P align=\"center\"><font size=\"2\">Page 215<\/font><\/p>\n<p><\/b><\/p>\n<p align=\"right\" style=\"margin-top: 0;margin-bottom: 0\">&nbsp;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>June 24, 1972 (Mother has not been well lately. 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