{"id":5733,"date":"2013-07-13T02:03:52","date_gmt":"2013-07-13T02:03:52","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/localhost\/?p=5733"},"modified":"2013-07-13T02:03:52","modified_gmt":"2013-07-13T02:03:52","slug":"017-february-9-1972-vol-13-volume-13","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/worksofthemotherandsriaurobindo.org\/index.php\/02-works-of-the-mother\/03-agenda\/13-volume-13\/017-february-9-1972-vol-13-volume-13","title":{"rendered":"-017_February 9_1972.htm"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><H3>February 9, 1972<\/H3><\/p>\n<p><i>Good morning, Mother.<\/i><\/p>\n<p><P>I have nothing, mon petit, you&#8217;re going to get skinny!<\/p>\n<p><i>No!<\/i><\/p>\n<p><P align=\"right\"><i>(Mother gives some flowers,<\/i><P align=\"right\"><i>&nbsp;then<br \/>\nher latest note)<\/i><\/p>\n<p>The first thing one learns on the way is that<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;giving brings<br \/>\n  much greater joy than taking.<\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p>Then, gradually, one learns that selflessness is<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;the source<br \/>\n  of an immutable peace. Later, in this<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;selflessness one finds the Divine, and that is the<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;source of an unending bliss&#8230;.<\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p>One day Sri Aurobindo told me that if people<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;knew that and<br \/>\n  were convinced of it they would all<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;want to do yoga.<\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><P align=\"right\"><i>(silence)<\/i><br \/>\n<P>We need a message for the 21st&#8230;. Do you have something?<\/p>\n<p><i>There are several probable texts, but perhaps you have somet<\/i><\/p>\n<p><i><br \/>\n  hing of your own?<\/i><\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><P>Texts from where?<\/p>\n<p><i>From Sri Aurobindo.<\/i><\/p>\n<p align=\"center\"><font size=\"2\">Page 56<\/font><\/p>\n<hr>\n<p><P>That would be nice.<\/p>\n<p><i>But for the 21st, it would be nice to have something from you<\/i><\/p>\n<p><i>&nbsp;also,<br \/>\n  no?<\/i><\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><P>Not necessarily&#8230;. Do you think this <i>(Mother hands Satprem a<\/i><P> <i>&nbsp;scrap of paper) <\/i>would do?<\/p>\n<p>The complete unification of the whole being<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;around the<br \/>\n  psychic center is the essential<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;condition to realize a perfect sincerity. [[Original English. ]] <\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p>I have noticed that people are insincere simply because one part of their being says one thing and another part says something else. That&#8217;s what causes insincerity. It came very clearly: a vision, you know, an inner vision. So I tried to put it down on paper; I don&#8217;t know if it&#8217;s clear.<\/p>\n<p><i>But it&#8217;s very difficult to remain in a permanent state of con<\/i><\/p>\n<p><i><br \/>\n  sciousness, to have always the same consciousness prevailing<\/i><\/p>\n<p><i>&nbsp;at all times.<\/i><\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><P>But that&#8217;s when you&#8217;re not unified, mon petit. It&#8217;s been a-l-w-a-y-s like this for me <i>(Mother draws a straight line in front of her) <\/i>for years and years. It comes from here, the psychic consciousness, and it&#8217;s CONSTANT.<br \/>\n<P>Recently, for a few moments, I had the experience (of the nonunified consciousness]; I hadn&#8217;t known that in years-many years, at least thirty years. [[Sixty. ]]  From the moment the psychic being became the master and ruler of the being, it was OVER &#8211; it is over &#8211; and now it&#8217;s like this <i>(same straight gesture). <\/i>That is the sure sign. Constantly like that, constantly the same. And all the time: &quot;What You will, what You will.&quot; Not a &quot;You&quot; up there, at the back of beyond, whom one doesn&#8217;t know; He is everywhere, He is in everything, He is constantly there, He is in the very being &#8211; and one clings to that. It&#8217;s the only solution.<br \/>\n<P>Do you think that note makes sense?<\/p>\n<p><i>Certainly, it makes sense! <\/i><\/p>\n<p align=\"center\"><font size=\"2\">Page 57<\/font><\/p>\n<hr>\n<p><P>Read it again.<\/p>\n<p><i>(Satprem reads the message again)<\/i><\/p>\n<p><P>Is it understandable?<\/p>\n<p><i>Well, I for one, understand!<\/i><\/p>\n<p><P>What do you think? &#8230; Because it&#8217;s something I discovered recently. I saw why people are insincere (even when they make an effort): because now it&#8217;s one part, now the other, now yet another part of them that asserts itself; each part is quite sincere in its own assertion, but is in disaccord with the others.<\/p>\n<p><i>But that means the psychic consciousness must penetrate the<\/i><\/p>\n<p><i>&nbsp;PHYSICAL<br \/>\n  consciousness.<\/i><\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><P>Yes.<\/p>\n<p><i>Because that&#8217;s the only place where there is permanence.<\/i><\/p>\n<p><P>Yes&#8230;.<\/p>\n<p><i>The psychic consciousness must penetrate the ordinary<\/i><\/p>\n<p><i>&nbsp;physical<br \/>\n  consciousness.<\/i><\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><P>Yes.<\/p>\n<p><i>That&#8217;s what is difficult!<\/i><\/p>\n<p><P>But, mon petit, I tell you, that&#8217;s what happened to me at least thirty years ago.<br \/>\n<P>The psychic consciousness has always been there, controlling and guiding the being. All the impressions, everything was referred to it, like this <i>(gesture of placing something before a spotlight)<\/i>, so it would give the true direction. And the physical, for its part, is sort of constantly attentive to the Divine Command.<br \/>\n<P>And that was constant, constant &#8211; even BEFORE coming here. It was so when I arrived here (long, long ago). And it has remained unchanged. Only recently did I have the experience [of the nonunified<br \/>\nconsciousness], for a few hours one night, two or three hours &#8211; it was horrible,<br \/>\nreally, it seemed like hell. It was to make<P align=\"center\"><font size=\"2\">Page 58<\/font><\/p>\n<hr>\n<p><P>&nbsp;me touch, to make me grasp the condition people live in. Imagine when<br \/>\nthe psychic is no longer there&#8230;.<br \/>\n<P>But it&#8217;s in the BODY &#8211; in the body: the body is listening, listening, constantly listening <i>(gesture above o<\/i>r within) &#8211; listening. But the Divine Command is not expressed in words, it comes as a will asserting itself <i>(a straight and imperturbable descending gesture).<\/i><br \/>\n<P>Should I add something to make it clearer?<\/p>\n<p><i>You said, &quot;The complete unification of the whole being.&quot;<\/i><\/p>\n<p><P>So that means the physical, too.<br \/>\n<P>People never understand anything. But it&#8217;s perfectly clear.<\/p>\n<p><i>Oh, yes!<\/i><\/p>\n<p><P>So you think it&#8217;s all right?<\/p>\n<p><i>Yes, Mother, certainly!<\/i><\/p>\n<p><P>I think it&#8217;s important, because it came as an experience, precisely to make me grasp its importance.<br \/>\n<P>We must put: &quot;Message for the 21st.&quot;<\/p>\n<p><i>Yes, Mother. We need another one for the 29th, too.<\/i><\/p>\n<p><P>February 29th, what&#8217;s that?<\/p>\n<p><i>It&#8217;s the fourth anniversary of the supramental descent, in &#8217;56.<\/i><\/p>\n<p><P>Oh! It was the 29th&#8230;.<\/p>\n<p><i>The 29th, in 1956 &#8230; sixteen years ago.<\/i><\/p>\n<p><P align=\"right\"><i>(Mother smiles and remains<\/i><P align=\"right\"><i>&nbsp;absorbed<br \/>\nawhile)<\/i><br \/>\n<P>Could we say:<\/p>\n<p>It is only when the supramental<\/p>\n<p>manifests in the physical mind<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;that its presence can be permanent.<\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><P>Do you think it will do?<P align=\"center\"><font size=\"2\">Page 59<\/font><\/p>\n<hr>\n<p><i>Yes, Mother!<\/i><\/p>\n<p><P>We should say &quot;in the body-mind.&quot;<\/p>\n<p><i>Well, we could add &quot;and body-mind&quot;: in the physical mind and<\/i><\/p>\n<p><i>&nbsp;body-mind&#8230;<br \/>\n  ?<\/i><\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><P>Yes, but then it seems as if there were two of them &#8211; there aren&#8217;t two. [[Meaning, we guess, that for Mother there are NO LONGER two. ]] <\/p>\n<p><i>So simply &quot;body-mind.<\/i><\/p>\n<p><P>Is it enough, then?<\/p>\n<p><i>Yes, Mother, we have both messages now.<\/i><\/p>\n<p><P>So they&#8217;re expecting me to go out on the balcony. I am going out on the balcony only for the 21st&#8230;. What have you heard? What are people expecting?<\/p>\n<p><i>They&#8217;re expecting to see as much of you as possible! [Laughter]<\/i><\/p>\n<p><P>I don&#8217;t know. The 29th is just one week later&#8230;. It&#8217;s a big strain<P>&nbsp;-not<br \/>\na strain, but a difficulty.<\/p>\n<p><i>What if everyone passed in front of you, would that be more <\/i><\/p>\n<p><i>difficult?<\/i><\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><P>Ohh &#8230; two flights of stairs to climb! It used to be possible down in the garden, but two flights of stairs&#8230;.<\/p>\n<p><i>But people can move along more easily now, they&#8217;ve built new<\/i><\/p>\n<p><i>&nbsp;stairways.<br \/>\n  It&#8217;s really up to you: wouldn&#8217;t it be more tiring to si<\/i><\/p>\n<p><i>&nbsp;there while so many people file past?<\/i><\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><P>Yes, I think it would be too much.<\/p>\n<p><i>Yes, Mother, it would be too long for you.<\/i><\/p>\n<p><P>And it isn&#8217;t very practical here: they would have to leave through the same door they come in. There should be another exit, then people could make a circle.<br \/>\n<P align=\"center\"><font size=\"2\">Page 60<\/font><\/p>\n<hr>\n<p><i>But will you give a meditation on the 29th?<\/i><\/p>\n<p><P>All right, I don&#8217;t mind. Let&#8217;s have a meditation at 10 a.m., then.<\/p>\n<p><i>You wouldn&#8217;t want to go out on the balcony a second time by<\/i><\/p>\n<p><i>&nbsp;any<br \/>\n  chance? [Laughter]<\/i><\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><P>That would be a bit too much.<br \/>\n<P>The body is no longer quite on this side, you see, and not yet on the other, so it lives in a kind of precarious balance, and the slightest thing upsets it &#8211; I can&#8217;t swallow anymore or even breathe anymore&#8230;. The feeling of a life which is about to depend on different conditions than the usual ones. But those other conditions aren&#8217;t there yet, nor is the body familiar with them, and so the transition from one state to the other is a perpetual source of problems. When I am very quiet &#8211; very quiet &#8211; everything is fine, but if there&#8217;s the slightest effort, everything goes awry.<br \/>\n<P align=\"right\"><i>(Mother gasps for breath)<\/i><br \/>\n<P>You see how it is.<br \/>\n<P align=\"right\"><i>(silence)<\/i><br \/>\n<P>I think &#8230; I have the feeling that if all goes well, in a few years I&#8217;ll be able to do many things &#8230; but not yet. If all goes well, at one hundred &#8211; I feel at one hundred years I Will be strong. The body itself has a conviction that if it lasts till one hundred, then at one hundred it will have a new strength and a new life. But &#8230; these are just the difficult years.<br \/>\n<P>The years of transition &#8230; <i>(Mother puts her head in her hands).<\/i><br \/>\n<P align=\"right\"><i>(brief silence)<\/i><br \/>\n<P>It&#8217;s interesting. When I am quiet, I hear a kind of great chant &#8211; almost a collective chant, I could say: OM Namo Bhagavateh &#8230;. As if all of Nature went <i>(rising gesture): <\/i>OM Namo Bhagavateh &#8230;<br \/>\n<P align=\"right\"><i>(Mother goes into contemplation)<\/i><P align=\"center\"><br \/>\n<font size=\"2\">Page 61<\/font><P align=\"center\">&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><\/b><\/p>\n<p align=\"right\" style=\"margin-top: 0;margin-bottom: 0\">&nbsp;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>February 9, 1972 Good morning, Mother. I have nothing, mon petit, you&#8217;re going to get skinny! No! 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