{"id":5743,"date":"2013-07-13T02:03:56","date_gmt":"2013-07-13T02:03:56","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/localhost\/?p=5743"},"modified":"2013-07-13T02:03:56","modified_gmt":"2013-07-13T02:03:56","slug":"093-august-30-1972-vol-13-volume-13","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/worksofthemotherandsriaurobindo.org\/index.php\/02-works-of-the-mother\/03-agenda\/13-volume-13\/093-august-30-1972-vol-13-volume-13","title":{"rendered":"-093_August 30_1972.htm"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><H3>August 30, 1972<\/H3><br \/>\n<P>How are you?<\/p>\n<p><i>I think I&#8217;m well.<\/i><\/p>\n<p><P>Well, so am I! <i>(laughter)<\/i><br \/>\n<P align=\"right\"><i>(silence)<\/i><P align=\"center\"><font size=\"2\">Page 273<\/font><\/p>\n<hr>\n<p><P>I can clearly see that instead of thought governing life, it&#8217;s consciousness. And when the consciousness remains quietly open to the Divine, all goes well. A lot of things constantly come into the consciousness, from the whole world, it would seem <i>(gesture of being assailed from all sides): <\/i>all the things that negate or oppose the divine Action. They keep coming all the time like this <i>(same gesture). <\/i>But if I can remain quiet <i>(gesture of offering, hands open), <\/i>in an attitude of &#8230; <i>(smiling) <\/i>nonexistence, a sort of &#8230; I don&#8217;t know if it&#8217;s transparency &#8211; I don&#8217;t know if one should say &quot;transparency&quot; or &quot;immobility&quot; &#8211; but it&#8217;s something in the consciousness that&#8217;s like this <i>(same gesture of offering, hands open). <\/i>When it stays that way, all is well; but as soon as it starts stirring, that is, as soon as the individuality comes to the forefront in any way, everything becomes detestable. Devastating, really.<br \/>\n<P>You see, the physical body has a millennium of past experiences that says, &quot;Why, that blissful state is impossible!&quot; &#8211; this stupidity is what delays everything. It&#8217;s as if the cells themselves, the cells of the body which are used to struggling and suffering, couldn&#8217;t accept that things can be like this <i>(same gesture of surrender, hands open). <\/i>But when it is &#8230; then it&#8217;s wonderful.<br \/>\n<P>Only it doesn&#8217;t last. It&#8217;s not daylong. Constantly, constantly things keep coming <i>(same gesture of being assailed from all sides).<\/i><br \/>\n<P>But now I see quite well, quite clearly &#8211; it&#8217;s very clear: consciousness replaces thought.<\/p>\n<p><i>Yes, yes.<\/i><\/p>\n<p><P>And &#8230; (how can I put it?) the difference between the two: thought is something that goes like this <i>(whirling, restless gesture), <\/i>ever in motion &#8230; whereas consciousness is like this <i>(gesture hands open, offered upward)<\/i>. I can&#8217;t explain it.<br \/>\n<P align=\"right\"><i>(Mother closes her eyes,<\/i><P align=\"right\"><i>&nbsp;her hands<br \/>\nremain open)<\/i><br \/>\n<P>Do you have something to say or ask?<\/p>\n<p><i>I was wondering what I could do to accelerate the process.<\/i><\/p>\n<p><i>&nbsp;Everyday<br \/>\n  life is beset by so many harassing things&#8230;. What<\/i><\/p>\n<p><i>&nbsp;can one do to accelerate the process?<\/i><\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><P>If one could remain untroubled, it would make a big difference.<br \/>\n<P align=\"center\"><font size=\"2\">Page 274<\/font><\/p>\n<hr>\n<p><i>Yes.<\/i><\/p>\n<p><P>A big difference.<br \/>\n<P>You see, my body is beginning &#8211; just beginning &#8211; to know that the divine side means a life that&#8217;s &#8230; <i>(Mother stretches out both arms in the vastness) <\/i>progressive and luminous; but there&#8217;s an accumulation of past experiences which says, &quot;Oh, that&#8217;s impossible!&quot; &#8211; just like that. Well, that stupid &quot;impossible&quot; is what delays and spoils everything.<br \/>\n<P>The basis of the fact is that as soon as the body steps out of the right attitude things get painful: everything aches and is laborious -you feel death and dissolution everywhere. And that&#8217;s what reinforces &#8230; Matter&#8217;s stupidity.<br \/>\n<P>So, really speaking, I&#8217;d rather not talk, unless it&#8217;s to answer a specific question.<\/p>\n<p><i>In my case, I wonder to what exact point I should apply myself ?<\/i><\/p>\n<p><P align=\"right\"><i>(after a silence)<\/i><br \/>\n<P>Do you feel you have gone beyond thought?<\/p>\n<p><i>Oh yes, completely. The only thing left is mechanical thought,<\/i><\/p>\n<p><i>&nbsp;but<br \/>\n  otherwise&#8230;. I can say I never use the thinking process: I<\/i><\/p>\n<p><i>&nbsp;always feel I draw things from above. The speculative mind, <\/i>\n  <\/p>\n<p><i>for example, is just impossible for me.<\/i><\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><P>Well, it&#8217;s good then, you&#8217;re on the right track.<\/p>\n<p><i>Well, maybe! But practically speaking, one is struggling with<\/i><\/p>\n<p><i>&nbsp;everything<br \/>\n  and feels a bit &#8230; submerged at times.<\/i><\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><P>As for me, you know, all the things I used to rely on for action seem to be PURPOSELY collapsing (everything, even the smallest things) so I can say: what You will. It&#8217;s become &#8230; it&#8217;s become my sole refuge.<br \/>\n<P>I don&#8217;t remember anything, you know! For instance, somebody says to me, &quot;You&#8217;ll say this to that person,&quot; I sincerely answer yes, but the next minute or so I no longer remember what it was! &#8230; [[But if the slightest trace of deeper truth exists in what Mother is asked to say, she remembers it perfectly! ]]  I remember nothing &#8211; zero.<br \/>\n<P align=\"center\"><font size=\"2\">Page 275<\/font><\/p>\n<hr>\n<p><P>Sometimes I can stay for hours in a sort of peaceful and luminous contemplation, and think it&#8217;s been only a few minutes.<br \/>\n<P>To the ordinary and undiscerning eye, you must accept to look like a &#8230;. I am sure that ninety-nine people out of a hundred think I am &#8230; <i>(smiling) <\/i>cracked.<\/p>\n<p><i>No &#8211; no, Mother! No, that&#8217;s&#8230;.<\/i><\/p>\n<p><P>It&#8217;s UTTERLY unimportant.<br \/>\n<P>I can see it in their consciousness, but it makes me smile. You have to accept that.<\/p>\n<p><i>But there are also a good number who see the Light too, you<\/i><\/p>\n<p><i>&nbsp;know.<\/i><\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><P>Possibly. <i>(Laughing) <\/i>Good for them!<br \/>\n<P align=\"right\"><i>(silence)<\/i><br \/>\n<P>Often, very often I ask the Lord: how can I help now that I can&#8217;t see so well, can&#8217;t hear so well, can&#8217;t speak clearly and need help to get around? This state is&#8230;. Yet the body doesn&#8217;t sense any decline! It is convinced that if tomorrow the Lord wanted it to resume its regular activity, it could do so. The Force is there <i>(Mother touches her arms, her muscles), <\/i>a terrible force sometimes! &#8230; So why? &#8230;<br \/>\n<P>This state is intentional so that &#8230; <i>(smiling) so <\/i>that people will leave me alone!<\/p>\n<p><i>Yes, Mother, it&#8217;s true, I really think it&#8217;s true.<\/i><\/p>\n<p><P>There you are. Otherwise people would never leave me alone.<\/p>\n<p><i>You would be flooded in no time with truckloads of futile<\/i><\/p>\n<p><i>&nbsp;problems.<\/i><\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><P>Yes, futile! Their problems are all futile! <i>(Mother laughs) <\/i>And how impudent: infidelity in marriage, lack of honesty at work! Things of that sort. Unbelievable &#8211; it&#8217;s unbelievable. People ask me such questions &#8230; <i>(laughing) <\/i>such improbable questions!<br \/>\n<P>All the rules, you know &#8211; oh, all the moral rules seem to have<P align=\"center\"><br \/>\n<font size=\"2\">Page 276<\/font><\/p>\n<hr>\n<p><P>&nbsp;been thrown to the winds. So the appearances are&#8230;. I&#8217;ll give you an example: somebody [from the Ashram] opens a &quot;Travel Agency,&quot; and when people give him money to buy tickets, he pockets the money and doesn&#8217;t buy the tickets &#8211; what do you think of that? <i>(laughter) <\/i>What next!<br \/>\n<P align=\"right\"><i>(silence)<\/i><\/p>\n<p><i>But, you know, I&#8217;m sure your condition is intentional, because <\/i><\/p>\n<p><i>as I can perceive it in my small measure, I feel you are a kind of<\/i><\/p>\n<p><i>&nbsp;colossal power transmitter in your immobility.<\/i><\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><P>Yes, I know. I know, it&#8217;s colossal! Yes, a Force that&#8217;s&#8230;. And even in my hands: an incredible power.<br \/>\n<P align=\"right\"><i>(silence)<\/i><br \/>\n<P><i>(Smiling) <\/i>Often, you know, I look &#8230; (how can I put it?)&#8230;. You are in the consciousness &#8211; you see, you are IN the consciousness &#8211; and so I look to see what place you occupy in the consciousness. Well &#8230; <i>(Mother keeps her eyes closed, smiling).<\/i><br \/>\n<P>Mon petit, I don&#8217;t want you to feel &#8230; <i>(Mother makes a gesture of strutting), I <\/i>don&#8217;t mean to compliment you, that&#8217;s not my intention. But you&#8217;re always &#8230; you&#8217;re like a luminous garden &#8230; with a distinct form <i>(Mother draws a kind of rectangle in the air), <\/i>it&#8217;s luminous and ranges from vivid pink to golden light. Exactly. And that&#8217;s you &#8211; that&#8217;s how I see you. Always.<br \/>\n<P>There is a vast atmosphere &#8211; a vast atmosphere&#8230;. A vast atmosphere enveloped in Sri Aurobindo&#8217;s aura: the blue, the luminous light blue which is his color. I see you in that &#8230; you&#8217;re like a distinct garden <i>(same gesture) <\/i>with colors &#8230; it goes from vivid pink to &#8230; a luminous, golden atmosphere. A lovely garden. That&#8217;s what I see &#8211; I see it eyes open <i>(Mother touches her open eyes). <\/i>And that&#8217;s very good.<br \/>\n<P>There remain a few spots of rigidity, I mean (what can I say?) fixities of a personal nature, but &#8230; gradually, gradually, they are disappearing, they are being transformed. There. That&#8217;s what I see.<br \/>\n<P align=\"right\"><i>(Mother plunges in till the end,<\/i><P align=\"right\"><i>&nbsp;then Sujata comes to her)<\/i><P align=\"center\"><br \/>\n<font size=\"2\">Page 277<\/font><\/p>\n<hr>\n<p><i>(Sujata:) Mother, my uncle, [[Later this person was greatly instrumental in pleading Auroville&#8217;s case with the government of India when the impostors tried to jail the Aurovilians<br \/>\n  and deport them from the country. ]] who came to see you yesterday <\/i><\/p>\n<p><i>with me, told me afterwards, &quot;I don&#8217;t know if you could see it,<\/i><\/p>\n<p><i>&nbsp;but I saw a Light coming out of Mother&#8217;s face&#8230;&quot;<\/i><\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><P align=\"right\"><i>(Mother laughs)<\/i><\/p>\n<p><i>So I asked him, &quot;But what effect did it have on you?&quot; He said, &quot;You know, I don&#8217;t have any personal desire, nothing, I simply wanted to &#8230; bow before that.<\/i><\/p>\n<p><P align=\"right\"><i>(Mother smiles)<\/i><br \/>\n<P align=\"center\"><font size=\"2\">Page 278<\/font><P align=\"center\">&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><\/b><\/p>\n<p align=\"right\" style=\"margin-top: 0;margin-bottom: 0\">&nbsp;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>August 30, 1972 How are you? I think I&#8217;m well. Well, so am I! 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