{"id":5761,"date":"2013-07-13T02:04:01","date_gmt":"2013-07-13T02:04:01","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/localhost\/?p=5761"},"modified":"2013-07-13T02:04:01","modified_gmt":"2013-07-13T02:04:01","slug":"065-may-31-1972-vol-13-volume-13","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/worksofthemotherandsriaurobindo.org\/index.php\/02-works-of-the-mother\/03-agenda\/13-volume-13\/065-may-31-1972-vol-13-volume-13","title":{"rendered":"-065_May 31_1972.htm"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><P><br \/>\n<H3>May 31, 1972<\/H3><\/p>\n<p><i>(Mother remains absorbed a long time. She often asked Satprem <\/i><\/p>\n<p><i>if he had any &quot;questions,&quot; but truly speaking Satprem didn&#8217;t<\/i><\/p>\n<p><i>&nbsp;come to see Mother to &quot;ask questions.&quot; Rather he wanted to<\/i><\/p>\n<p><i>&nbsp;efface himself all he could and let her experience flow out it she<\/i><\/p>\n<p><i>&nbsp;liked to give it expression, or remain silent if so she preferred  <\/i>\n  <\/p>\n<p><i>He did not want his mind to grind thoughts, with its thousand<\/i><\/p>\n<p><i>&nbsp;questions, lest it should cloud the atmosphere and bring pres<\/i><\/p>\n<p><i>sure upon Mother. Questions seemed pointless to him unless<\/i><\/p>\n<p><i>&nbsp;they arose on the spur of the moment, springing from within,<\/i><\/p>\n<p><i>&nbsp;because then they responded to something iN Mother. Indeed,<\/i><\/p>\n<p><i>&nbsp;Satprem wanted to be simply a sort of catalyst for what was<\/i><\/p>\n<p><i>&nbsp;happening in her. And then, too, seeing her gasping for breath<\/i><\/p>\n<p><i>&nbsp;very much affected him.)<\/i><\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><P>So what do you have to say?<\/p>\n<p><i>Nothing much.<\/i><\/p>\n<p><P><i>(Holding Satprem&#8217;s hands)<\/i> What do You have to say?<\/p>\n<p><i>Really nothing much, Mother&#8230;. I wish all the last recesses of<\/i><\/p>\n<p><i>&nbsp;my<br \/>\n  being would open up &#8211; that&#8217;s what I wish.<\/i><\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><P>Why &#8211; tell me why do I keep seeing an image of you (it&#8217;s strangely persistent), as I saw you the last time at the Government House. [[In 1949, after the departure of Governor Baron. Mother has already mentioned that episode in the conversation of September 1, 1971, <i>Agenda XII.<\/i> ]]  I had gone to see the new governor, and you were sitting in the room &#8230; on the verandah&#8230;. There was a bench, a sort of long bench, and you were sitting there, and when I came out I saw you sitting there, silhouetted against the sky. It was either a balcony or a verandah, I don&#8217;t remember&#8230;.<br \/>\n<P>It keeps returning again and again and again&#8230;. Why?<br \/>\n<P>Do you remember that?<\/p>\n<p><i>No, Mother [= I don&#8217;t want to remember].<\/i><\/p>\n<p><P>Why did it strike me so? &#8230; You weren&#8217;t alone, there were other<P align=\"center\"><br \/>\n<font size=\"2\">Page 195<\/font><\/p>\n<hr>\n<p><P>&nbsp;people with you, perhaps two or three, I don&#8217;t know. I don&#8217;t even<br \/>\nremember who they were or what they looked like or anything-I saw only you. And<br \/>\nI was&#8230;.<br \/>\n<P>It was actually my last visit to Government House. You were still there, but the governor had left &#8211; I mean Baron.<br \/>\n<P>Why?<br \/>\n<P>You don&#8217;t remember your own feeling?<\/p>\n<p><i>No, Mother.<\/i><\/p>\n<p><P>Why does it keep coming back to me like that?<br \/>\n<P>It was like a foreknowledge of the place you would occupy in my life.<br \/>\n<P>Everything else was blurred, indistinct &#8211; nonexistent &#8211; but you &#8230; I still see it as if it were yesterday. And you were sitting &#8230; sitting on that&#8230;. You were in a rather mocking mood. [[Not &quot;mocking&quot; at all &#8211; very angry. ]] <\/p>\n<p><i>I was quite stupid.<\/i><\/p>\n<p><P>What?<\/p>\n<p><i>At the time I was pretty stupid &#8211; now I&#8217;m a little less&#8230;.<\/i><\/p>\n<p><P align=\"right\"><i>(Mother laughs)<\/i><\/p>\n<p><i>Thanks to you.<\/i><\/p>\n<p><P align=\"right\"><i>(silence)<\/i><\/p>\n<p><i>Mocking, I don&#8217;t think so, Mother. I was never really the<\/i><\/p>\n<p><i>&nbsp;mocking<br \/>\n  type.<\/i><\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><P>No, not mocking&#8230;.<\/p>\n<p><i>I was rather defiant, or suspicious!<\/i><\/p>\n<p><P>Yes, yes! That&#8217;s it. Yes, that&#8217;s exactly it.<br \/>\n<P>As if you were saying to yourself, &quot;What on earth is this!&quot; <i>(laughter)<\/i><\/p>\n<p><i>Ah, Mother, what a grace to have met you!&#8230;<\/i><\/p>\n<p><P align=\"right\"><i>(Mother takes Satprem&#8217;s hands)<\/i><br \/>\n<P align=\"center\"><font size=\"2\">Page 196<\/font><\/p>\n<hr>\n<p><P><\/p>\n<p><i>I KNOW.<\/i><\/p>\n<p><P align=\"right\"><i>(after a silence)<\/i><br \/>\n<P>Oh, mon petit &#8230; both together, you know, it&#8217;s so incredible: a fabulous power &#8211; you feel you just do this <i>(Mother closes her fist on a little bit of air), <\/i>and it&#8217;s done &#8211; and at the same time &#8230; you know nothing, understand nothing&#8230;. My memory is gone. There&#8217;s no more, no more &#8230; <i>(Mother touches her head, indicating a <\/i>void). Some decisions go through the consciousness, but as soon as they are uttered or implemented, they&#8217;re gone.<br \/>\n<P>I remember nothing, nothing, nothing, except like this <i>(Mother picks up a point in the air), <\/i>one thing in a thousand. But why?<br \/>\n<P align=\"right\"><i>(silence)<\/i><br \/>\n<P>Say, listen. A strange experience it is. All the daily occupations, the most ordinary things &#8211; getting up, going to bed, taking a bath, &quot;trying&quot; to eat (which is rather in vain) &#8211; are&#8230;. It sounds ridiculous, but they are accompanied by a feeling that they can be an occasion of death (there isn&#8217;t a single thing that isn&#8217;t an occasion of death, that is, to leave the body), yet at the same time &#8211; at the very same time &#8211; there&#8217;s a feeling of immortality. Almost &#8230; it&#8217;s almost indescribable&#8230;. Both opposites are there &#8211; not &quot;opposite,&quot; but &#8230; (they are only opposite in our language).<br \/>\n<P align=\"right\"><i>(silence <br \/>then Mother smiles as if<\/i><P align=\"right\"><i>&nbsp;she<br \/>\nhad just discovered something)<\/i><br \/>\n<P>Ah! Ah! &#8230; You see&#8230;. Oh, listen, it sounds utterly absurd, but I&#8217;ll tell you. This consciousness here is as though conscious of the divine decisions; as though there isn&#8217;t a single trifle that can&#8217;t be an occasion to leave the body if the Divine decides that the body has to go, nor is there a single moment when one can&#8217;t have the feeling of immortality if the Divine decides that one should have the feeling of immortality. The SAME thing. Do you understand what I am saying? The SAME thing.<br \/>\n<P>For example, take that image I keep having of you sitting on that bench and staring at me like &#8211; yes, as if saying, &quot;What on earth is this!&quot; because I visited Government House (I used to come very often during Baron&#8217;s time, but I stopped coming after he left), so I came and you seemed to be saying, &quot;What on earth is this?&quot; as &#8230;<br \/>\n<P align=\"center\"><font size=\"2\">Page 197<\/font><\/p>\n<hr>\n<p><P>yes, as if you were thinking, &quot;How quickly one forgets!&quot; or something of the sort [[What a fabulous memory Mother has! &#8230; Twenty-three years before, she had passed in front of me a few seconds, and she even remembers what was never expressed. The whole scene has remained vivid: I was furious with Mother because I thought she was &quot;betraying&quot; Baron by paying a visit to his successor (who had used the worst intrigues to oust Baron). ]]  &#8211; anyway you weren&#8217;t overly friendly! <i>(laughter) <\/i>At least that was my impression&#8230;. But why does it keep recurring like that? &#8230; You see, that encounter &#8230; that occasion was the starting point &#8211; the starting point of a great action between us, together. A great action together. So why these trifling little ripples, just when destiny was being shaped?<br \/>\n<P>One could almost say they were there to prove how appearances are illusions.<\/p>\n<p><i>Yes. Yes.<\/i><\/p>\n<p><P>ALL appearances are illusions &#8211; there&#8217;s something &#8230; something which for me is becoming increasingly concrete and tremendously powerful: the Lord&#8217;s Will. This conscious will is not like ours, it&#8217;s something like this <i>(Mother lowers her outstretched arms). <\/i>Inexpressible. It&#8217;s unlike anything we know. And it is a formidable will -formidable, you understand, in the sense that all appearances, all contradictions, all human wills are zero: THAT alone <i>(same, powerful gesture of lowering both arms). <\/i>That&#8217;s it, THAT is what I feel going through me, as if I bathed in it. Exactly like that.<br \/>\n<P>There isn&#8217;t any &#8230; there&#8217;s nothing here <i>(Mother touches her forehead), <\/i>it&#8217;s empty, empty, completely empty &#8211; hollow. Hollow. I don&#8217;t think. There isn&#8217;t any &quot;I,&quot; or any &#8230;. It&#8217;s almost like an empty shell, yet with that formidable Force &#8230; <i>(vast, powerful gesture, arms outstretched).<\/i><br \/>\n<P align=\"right\"><i>(long silence)<\/i><br \/>\n<P>The supramental consciousness must be trying to take possession of it &#8230;. This <i>(the body) <\/i>is just like a shell.<br \/>\n<P>A shell &#8230;. Will it be able to change? I don&#8217;t know.<br \/>\n<P align=\"right\"><i>(silence)<\/i><br \/>\n<P>A constant feeling of &#8230; <i>(vast, powerful gesture, arms outstretched).<\/i><br \/>\n<P align=\"right\"><i>(silence)<\/i><br \/>\n<P align=\"center\"><font size=\"2\">Page 198<\/font><\/p>\n<hr>\n<p><P><i>(Smiling) <\/i>It&#8217;s profoundly interesting.<br \/>\n<P align=\"right\"><i>(silence)<\/i><br \/>\n<P>As if a superhuman Power were trying to manifest through millenniums of impotence&#8230;. That&#8217;s it. This <i>(the body) <\/i>is made of millenniums of impotence. And a superhuman Power is trying to &#8230; is exerting a pressure to manifest. That&#8217;s what it is. What will be the outcome? I don&#8217;t know.<br \/>\n<P align=\"right\"><i>(silence)<\/i><br \/>\n<P>And the famous day when I saw you there, sitting against the sky &#8230; it&#8217;s as though the place you were going to occupy in this creation were decided AT THAT PRECISE MOMENT. Truly &#8230; it&#8217;s truly, miraculously interesting.<br \/>\n<P>And the same goes for everything &#8211; everything, absolutely everything. There are MOMENTS when things are decided.<br \/>\n<P align=\"right\"><i>(meditation <br \/>the clock strikes the hour)<\/i><br \/>\n<P>Time does not exist anymore&#8230;.<br \/>\n<P align=\"right\"><i>(Mother nods her head)<\/i><br \/>\n<P>As if another time had entered this one.<P align=\"center\"><font size=\"2\">Page 199<\/font><\/p>\n<p><\/b><\/p>\n<p align=\"right\" style=\"margin-top: 0;margin-bottom: 0\">&nbsp;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>May 31, 1972 (Mother remains absorbed a long time. 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