After reading an excerpt from the debate with Death:<\/i>
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If God there is he cares not for the world;
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All things he sees with calm indifferent gaze,
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He has doomed all hearts to sorrow and desire,
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He has bound all life with his implacable laws;
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He answers not the ignorant voice of prayer.
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Eternal while the ages toil beneath,
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Unmoved, untouched by aught that he has made,
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He sees as minute details mid the stars
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The animals’s agony and the fate of man:
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Immeasurably wise, he exceeds thy thought;
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His solitary joy needs not thy love.
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(X.IV.646)
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Yes, but we need his joy.
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All this was said to me this morning. Absolutely the same thing (with different words, but the very same thing), and not “said”: lived, as if I were shown the thing so as to feel it. And I said, “Why? Why this test? What’s the use?” It was my body that said, “What’s the use?” Then it stopped.
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I said, “Why? What does it all mean?” I didn’t contradict, didn’t argue, just this “What’s the use?” (Mother gestures as if to sweep away a speck of dust)<\/i>
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You know, what the consciousness of this body is made to live is a sort of intensive discipline, at a gallop – every minute counts.
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But it copes well, I can’t deny it. [[It must be recalled that the next day is Darshan and therefore Mother is overburdened with visitors and letters. ]]
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Page 275<\/font><\/p>\n We’ll see how it stands the shock (that’s quite the point!). So this other Gentleman [Death] would say, “See! See there, the kind of pity people have for you!” But I answer, “I don’t need pity…. (laughing) <\/i>That’s not what I want: I want the victory.” It’s interesting. Oh, if you knew what a crowd there is! … And at the last minute, people come and tell me, “I’ve just arrived, I want to see you.” Very well, I say, “All right.” We’ll extend the day! (Mother laughs)<\/i> Ah, good-bye, my children, stay very quietly at home. Very quietly. It’s enough if there is one who “toils”! I’d really like it to be that way, I regret it’s necessary for some to be ill, [[Several disciples close to Mother are ill, in particular her close attendant. ]] why? … Oh, I know why, but … It’s a pity. It’s the Grace learning its lesson. It learns that It isn’t yet as It should be…. You understand, there are always two ways of looking at things; we can say, “The world isn’t ready” and look at it with a smile (it’s a … what can we call it?… We could call it a selfish way), and the other way, which is to say, “I am not capable yet. If I were really capable, all this [illnesses, catastrophes, etc.] wouldn’t be necessary, everything would be done in a harmonious rhythm.” We could very well say, “The Divine is learning his lesson.” (Laughing) <\/i>He has everything to learn! When He knows it well, the world will be as it should be, that’s all. Why not? We could just as well say that: the one is as true as the other. Page 276<\/font><\/p>\n <\/b><\/p>\n <\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":" November 23, 1966 After reading an excerpt from the debate with Death: If God there is he cares not for the world; All things he…<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[142],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-6064","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-07-volume-07","wpcat-142-id"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/worksofthemotherandsriaurobindo.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/6064","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/worksofthemotherandsriaurobindo.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/worksofthemotherandsriaurobindo.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/worksofthemotherandsriaurobindo.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/worksofthemotherandsriaurobindo.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=6064"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/worksofthemotherandsriaurobindo.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/6064\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/worksofthemotherandsriaurobindo.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=6064"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/worksofthemotherandsriaurobindo.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=6064"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/worksofthemotherandsriaurobindo.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=6064"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}
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