{"id":6068,"date":"2013-07-13T02:05:40","date_gmt":"2013-07-13T02:05:40","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/localhost\/?p=6068"},"modified":"2013-07-13T02:05:40","modified_gmt":"2013-07-13T02:05:40","slug":"09-february-19-1966-vol-07-volume-07","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/worksofthemotherandsriaurobindo.org\/index.php\/02-works-of-the-mother\/03-agenda\/07-volume-07\/09-february-19-1966-vol-07-volume-07","title":{"rendered":"-09_February 19_1966.htm"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><H3>February 19, 1966<\/H3><br \/>\n<P align=\"center\"><i>(Regarding a Playground Talk of April 9, 1951, in which<\/i><P align=\"center\"><i>&nbsp;Mother<br \/>\nspoke of the degeneration of taste, of the war <\/i><br \/>\n<P align=\"center\"><i>and what a new war would mean:)<\/i><br \/>\n<P>&quot;Now, to tell you the truth, we are on the upward curve again. I think we<br \/>\nhave really reached the bottom of incoherence, absurdity and ugliness &#8211; the<br \/>\ntaste for the ugly and the unsightly, the dirty, the offensive. We have, I<br \/>\nthink, reached rock bottom&#8230;. If it&#8217;s taken in the right way (and I think there<br \/>\nare people who have taken it in the right way), it can lead you straight to the<br \/>\nYoga, straight. That is, you feel a sort of very deep detachment from all the<br \/>\nthings of this world, a very intense need to find something else, an imperious<br \/>\nneed to find something truly beautiful, truly fresh, truly good &#8230; so, quite<br \/>\nnaturally, it leads you to a spiritual aspiration. And those horrors seem to<br \/>\nhave divided people: a minority who were ready have risen very high; a majority<br \/>\nwho weren&#8217;t ready have gone down very low. Those are now wallowing in mud, and<br \/>\nthat&#8217;s why we can&#8217;t get out of it for the moment; and if it goes on, we will be<br \/>\nmoving towards a new war, and this time it will really be the end of this<br \/>\ncivilization &#8211; I am not saying the end of the world, because nothing can be the<br \/>\nend of the world, but the end of this civilization, which means we will have to<br \/>\nbuild another. You may tell me that it will be very good, for this civilization<br \/>\nis on the<br \/>\n<P align=\"center\"><font size=\"2\">Page 39<\/font><\/p>\n<hr>\n<p><P>decline, it&#8217;s rotting away; but still, there were in it some beautiful things<br \/>\nthat deserved to be preserved, and it would be a great pity if all that<br \/>\ndisappeared. But if there is a new war, I can tell you that it will all<br \/>\ndisappear. For men are very clever creatures, and they have found the way to<br \/>\ndestroy everything. And they will use it, because what&#8217;s the use of spending<br \/>\nbillions to make certain bombs if they aren&#8217;t to be used? What&#8217;s the use of<br \/>\ndiscovering that a city can be destroyed in a few minutes if not to destroy it!<br \/>\nOne wants to see the fruit of one&#8217;s efforts! If there is a war, that&#8217;s what will<br \/>\nhappen.&quot;<br \/>\n<P>&#8230; Quite appropriate. We&#8217;ll publish it in the next <i>Bulletin.<\/i><br \/>\n<P align=\"center\"><i>***<\/i><br \/>\n<P align=\"center\"><i>(Then Mother goes on to &#8220;Savitri,&#8221; the beginning of the new dialogue <br \/>between Savitri and Death:)<\/i><br \/>\n<P>Once more arose the great destroying Voice:<br \/>\n<P>Across the fruitless labour of the worlds<br \/>\n<P>His huge denial&#8217;s all-defeating might<br \/>\n<P>Pursued the ignorant march of dolorous Time.<br \/>\n<P align=\"right\">(X.IV.643)<br \/>\n<P>The ignorant march of dolorous Time&#8230;. That&#8217;s quite it, we&#8217;re poor devils.<br \/>\n<P>That&#8217;s exactly the state of mind I have been in for two days, but more particularly this morning&#8230;. Oh, as an experience it&#8217;s very interesting.<br \/>\n<P>The spontaneous activity of Matter is defeatist [&#8220;the all-defeating might&#8221;]. It has to <i>surrender, <\/i>it has to annul itself so that a creative power &#8211; truly creative and victorious &#8211; can manifest. That&#8217;s quite interesting.<br \/>\n<P>Th\u00e9on used to say that this defeatist state (the result of which is death), this destructive power, was born with the Vital&#8217;s infusion into Matter. The rock, the stone, that is, the most exclusively material, isn&#8217;t defeatist. The beginning of destruction came with the beginning of the entry of the vital force: with water &#8211; water, air, all that moves. All that begins to move brings along the power of destruction.<br \/>\n<P>And in human matter, this destructive power is associated with movement.<br \/>\n<P align=\"center\"><font size=\"2\">Page 40<\/font><\/p>\n<hr>\n<p><P align=\"right\"><i>(silence)<\/i><br \/>\n<P>In other words, on earth (let&#8217;s limit ourselves to the earth), it&#8217;s only with Life that Death came in.<br \/>\n<P align=\"right\"><i>(silence)<\/i><br \/>\n<P>And certainly, the first manifestations of Life were water and air, the wind, weren&#8217;t they?<br \/>\n<P>Fire &#8230; But fire, there&#8217;s no fire without air &#8211; fire is the symbol of the supreme Power.<br \/>\n<P align=\"right\"><i>(long silence <br \/>Mother scribbles a few words)<\/i><br \/>\n<P>Here&#8217;s the answer:<br \/>\n<P>Truth does not depend on any external form and shall manifest in spite of all bad will or opposition.<br \/>\n<P>I&#8217;ve written this in answer to this gentleman [Death]. It came with a power: &#8220;Ah, you shall see.&#8221;<br \/>\n<P>But I&#8217;d like to know what Savitri says. What does Savitri say?&#8230;<br \/>\n<P>There&#8217;s no time left, we&#8217;ll see that next time.<br \/>\n<P>What does she say to him? I think she always says the same thing: the omnipotence of Love.<br \/>\n<P>There you feel the Force. Otherwise it wouldn&#8217;t be worth living &#8211; it really isn&#8217;t worth it, it&#8217;s no fun.<br \/>\n<P align=\"center\"><font size=\"2\">Page 41<\/font><\/p>\n<p><\/b><\/p>\n<p align=\"right\" style=\"margin-top: 0;margin-bottom: 0\">&nbsp;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>February 19, 1966 (Regarding a Playground Talk of April 9, 1951, in which&nbsp;Mother spoke of the degeneration of taste, of the war and what a&#8230;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[142],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-6068","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-07-volume-07","wpcat-142-id"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/worksofthemotherandsriaurobindo.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/6068","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/worksofthemotherandsriaurobindo.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/worksofthemotherandsriaurobindo.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/worksofthemotherandsriaurobindo.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/worksofthemotherandsriaurobindo.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=6068"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/worksofthemotherandsriaurobindo.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/6068\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/worksofthemotherandsriaurobindo.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=6068"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/worksofthemotherandsriaurobindo.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=6068"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/worksofthemotherandsriaurobindo.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=6068"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}