{"id":6094,"date":"2013-07-13T02:05:49","date_gmt":"2013-07-13T02:05:49","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/localhost\/?p=6094"},"modified":"2013-07-13T02:05:49","modified_gmt":"2013-07-13T02:05:49","slug":"39-june-29-1966-vol-07-volume-07","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/worksofthemotherandsriaurobindo.org\/index.php\/02-works-of-the-mother\/03-agenda\/07-volume-07\/39-june-29-1966-vol-07-volume-07","title":{"rendered":"-39_June 29_1966.htm"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><H3>June 29, 1966<\/H3><br \/>\n<P>This morning I got a letter from a little girl who asks me, &#8220;What is consciousness? I asked my teachers, they answered me it was very hard to explain&#8221;! <i>(Mother laughs) <\/i>So she&#8217;s asking me. And since she asked me, I&#8217;ve been looking at it. How can we express it? Do YOU know how it can be explained? Because the words we use are meaningless.<\/p>\n<p><i>Spontaneously, I&#8217;d say it&#8217;s the fire or the breath that carries the whole world. It&#8217;s the fire that makes everything live &#8211; that makes the chest breathe, that makes the sea heave &#8230;<\/i><\/p>\n<p><P>That&#8217;s not bad!<\/p>\n<p><i>What would YOU say?<\/i><\/p>\n<p><P>Here is what I found: it&#8217;s the cause of existence &#8211; the cause and the effect at the same time. But that&#8217;s not it.<br \/>\n<P>Your explanation is more poetic, it&#8217;s more literary, but still I am not sure that&#8217;s it.<\/p>\n<p><i>It&#8217;s the substance of the world, what constitutes the world.<\/i><\/p>\n<p><P>Yes. If we say, &#8220;Without consciousness there is no world,&#8221; it&#8217;s much truer, but it doesn&#8217;t explain. That was my first answer: without consciousness, no world, no existence.<\/p>\n<p><i>It&#8217;s the breath or the force that carries the world &#8211; that makes it be.<\/i><\/p>\n<p align=\"center\">\n  <font size=\"2\">Page 143<\/font><\/p>\n<hr>\n<p><P>That&#8217;s not bad, let&#8217;s note it down!<\/p>\n<p><i>Oh no! You are the one who must find it.<\/i><\/p>\n<p><P>I have to answer this child.<\/p>\n<p><i>Because otherwise, we are lost in abstractions.<\/i><\/p>\n<p><P>Yes, and with abstractions, you use words that mean something else, that&#8217;s all.<\/p>\n<p><i>But how do YOU perceive consciousness?<\/i><\/p>\n<p><P>Without consciousness, you can&#8217;t feel anything. Consciousness is indeed the basis of all things.<br \/>\n<P align=\"right\"><i>(Mother looks at the child&#8217;s letter and hands it to Satprem)<\/i><br \/>\n<P>&#8220;Sweet Mother, I&#8217;d like to know: What is consciousness? I asked a teacher, but they said, &#8216;It&#8217;s very hard to explain.&#8217; I want your blessing so I do my exams well. You take my <i>Pranams. <\/i>[[<i>Pranam: <\/i>salutation, prostration. ]] Your little daughter.&#8221;<br \/>\n<P>Without consciousness, no existence, that&#8217;s perfectly true, but it doesn&#8217;t explain what consciousness is. But your explanation is poetic enough, at any rate! In Indian philosophy, they put Existence before Consciousness. They say Sat-Chit-Ananda. [[<i>Sat-Chit- Ananda: <\/i>existence-consciousness-bliss. ]] So if we say, <i>Chit-Sat-Ananda&#8230;! <\/i>And it&#8217;s not true.<\/p>\n<p><i>It&#8217;s not true, the Rishis always spoke of Fire, &#8220;Agni,&#8221; which is the primordial substance.<\/i><\/p>\n<p><P>But is &#8220;fire&#8221; consciousness?<\/p>\n<p><i>Yes, it becomes consciousness &#8211; it is consciousness. It&#8217;s<\/i><\/p>\n<p align=\"center\">\n  <font size=\"2\">Page 144<\/font><\/p>\n<hr>\n<p><i>&nbsp;consciousness-force. The Rishis said, &#8220;Even in the stone he is there, even in the waters he is there.&#8221;<\/i><\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><P>Yes, when I had that experience of the pulsations of Love creating the world, the pulsation came first, and afterwards the consciousness &#8211; the consciousness of the pulsation.<br \/>\n<P>So we could define it like this: when the &#8230; the &#8230; (I never know which name to use!) became conscious of Himself, that created the world.<\/p>\n<p><i>In the Upanishads, they say &#8220;tapas&#8221; <\/i>[[<i>Tapas: <\/i>energy or heat, or also the concentration of the power of consciousness. ]]<i> created the world.<\/i><\/p>\n<p><P>Yes, <i>tapas <\/i>is Power.<\/p>\n<p><i>It&#8217;s fire, too.<\/i><\/p>\n<p><P>No, <i>tapas <\/i>is Power.<\/p>\n<p><i>Chit-Tapas is heat.<\/i><\/p>\n<p><P>They say, <i>Sat, Chit-Tapas, Ananda. <\/i>They put <i>Chit-Tapas <\/i>together. And it&#8217;s <i>Chit <\/i>first, then <i>Tapas. <\/i>It&#8217;s the creative power of consciousness.<\/p>\n<p><i>But Sri Aurobindo always said &#8220;Consciousness-Force,&#8221; indissolubly. We can&#8217;t separate one from the other. There is no consciousness without force and no force without consciousness &#8211; it&#8217;s Consciousness-Force. That&#8217;s what the world is!<\/i><\/p>\n<p><P>At any rate, it&#8217;s not a very philosophical way to put it at all, it&#8217;s very childlike, but it&#8217;s much truer than metaphysical sentences: When the Lord became conscious of Himself, that created the world.<br \/>\n<P>So, let&#8217;s note down your definition for the child.<\/p>\n<p><i>No, your definition first, that&#8217;s the first stage! Then the second stage, the human.<\/i><\/p>\n<p><P align=\"right\"><i>(Mother laughs and writes:)<\/i><br \/>\n<P align=\"center\"><font size=\"2\">Page 145<\/font><\/p>\n<hr>\n<p><P>&#8220;When the Lord became conscious of Himself, that created the world.&#8221;<br \/>\n<P>Now your turn to say!<\/p>\n<p><i>It&#8217;s for you to say.<\/i><\/p>\n<p><P>No, no! Let me hear it.<\/p>\n<p><i>I don&#8217;t know&#8230;. Consciousness is the breath or the fire that carries everything.<\/i><\/p>\n<p><P>But if I say &#8220;fire,&#8221; they&#8217;ll immediately say, &#8220;Ah, consciousness is fire, then!&#8221;<\/p>\n<p><i>The breath that carries everything, that makes everything breathe?<\/i><\/p>\n<p><P align=\"right\"><i>(Mother writes:)<\/i><br \/>\n<P>&#8220;Consciousness is the breath that is the life of everything.&#8221;<br \/>\n<P>No &#8230;<br \/>\n<P>&#8220;that makes everything live.&#8221;<br \/>\n<P>You understand, it&#8217;s going to go all around the School from one class to another! <i>(Laughing) <\/i>I know what&#8217;s going to happen!<br \/>\n<P>&#8220;Consciousness is the breath that makes everything live.&#8221;<br \/>\n<P>There. She is lucky, that little one. Children are amusing!<br \/>\n<P align=\"center\"><i>***<\/i><br \/>\n<P align=\"center\"><i>(Soon afterwards, Mother looks at a stack of English texts that have to be translated into French.)<\/i><br \/>\n<P>It would be far easier if those things were written in large<P align=\"center\"><br \/>\n<font size=\"2\">Page 146<\/font><\/p>\n<hr>\n<p><P>&nbsp;characters&#8230;. It&#8217;s a pity about my eyes. I waste a lot of time, quite<br \/>\na lot. I am forced to ask, or else to take a magnifying glass. What I used to do<br \/>\nin three minutes takes me half an hour. That&#8217;s how it is. But to recover my<br \/>\nsight (that would be possible, nothing is damaged, it&#8217;s only worn), I would have<br \/>\nto spend a lot of time on it; it would take me a lot of time in exercises,<br \/>\nconcentrations&#8230;. I don&#8217;t have the time.<br \/>\n<P>But the promptness of the consciousness when I used to see! &#8230; I don&#8217;t find it with other eyes. 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