{"id":6187,"date":"2013-07-13T02:06:19","date_gmt":"2013-07-13T02:06:19","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/localhost\/?p=6187"},"modified":"2013-07-13T02:06:19","modified_gmt":"2013-07-13T02:06:19","slug":"38-june-30-1965-vol-06-volume-06","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/worksofthemotherandsriaurobindo.org\/index.php\/02-works-of-the-mother\/03-agenda\/06-volume-06\/38-june-30-1965-vol-06-volume-06","title":{"rendered":"-38_June 30_1965.htm"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><H3>June 30, 1965<\/H3><br \/>\n<P align=\"center\"><i>(About a cyst)<\/i><\/p>\n<p><i>What should be done for Sujata?<\/i><\/p>\n<p><P>What did the doctor say?<\/p>\n<p><i>They are going to operate on her tomorrow.<\/i><\/p>\n<p><P>Did he say it should be cut out?<\/p>\n<p><i>Yes, but since she mentioned it to you, it has become much smaller!<\/i><\/p>\n<p><P>(Mother laughs and examines Sujata&#8217;s cyst:) Does it still hurt? &#8230; It&#8217;s better to remove it because if a small bit is left, it will start again. But it&#8217;s true, it&#8217;s smaller.<\/p>\n<p><i>(Sujata:) And it keeps getting smaller.<\/i><\/p>\n<p><P>Tell the doctor it&#8217;s getting smaller, he will see &#8211; maybe he will say we should wait a few more days?&#8230;<br \/>\n<P>It&#8217;s true <i>(laughing), <\/i>it&#8217;s much smaller.[[In fact the cyst has grown smaller almost by half since Sujata mentioned it to Mother four days ago. But &#8220;out of habit&#8221; it was still operated upon! ]]<br \/>\n<P align=\"right\"><i> (silence)<\/i><br \/>\n<P align=\"center\"><font size=\"2\">Page 154<\/font><\/p>\n<hr>\n<p><P>I saw the &#8220;eye doctor&#8221; the other day, because it was his birthday. He came (I didn&#8217;t know he was a doctor: I was asked to see him for his birthday, I said yes), he came and someone must have told him I had eye troubles (!) or whatever, I don&#8217;t know; so he had prepared eye drops! He came, sat down, and then I looked at him (as I look at everyone, to see). Then &#8230; he looked very surprised <i>(Mother smiles)<\/i>, I don&#8217;t know why, and he said very timidly, &#8220;I brought drops for you, but I don&#8217;t think you need them.&#8221; <i>(Mother laughs) <\/i>He looked quite surprised!<br \/>\n<P align=\"right\"><i> (silence)<\/i><br \/>\n<P>Oh, something curious happened two nights ago. I was with Sri Aurobindo, it was in a room &#8230; oh, what a room&#8230;. Well, it was magnificent, very high-ceilinged, very large, and without anything at all in it; but it was a very large room, and there were kinds of French windows opening out on a balcony or a terrace (it overlooked a town), and those windows, from top to bottom, were a single pane of glass: it gave a magnificent light. He was there. Then for some reason or other I felt he wanted a cup of tea. So I set out in search of his cup of tea, and went through rooms, halls, even construction sites (!), looking for a cup of tea for him; and they were all large rooms &#8211; all the rooms were large &#8211; but contrary to the one in which he was, which was so clear, the others were dark. And there was a large hall which was like a dining hall, with a table and everything needed to serve meals, but dark &#8211; and also there wasn&#8217;t anything left. There were people (people I know) who said, &#8220;Ah, <i>(in a sorry tone) <\/i>it&#8217;s all finished&#8221; &#8211; they had finished everything, they had eaten up everything! <i>(Mother laughs) <\/i>They had swallowed up everything, there was nothing left. Finally, I found someone in a sort of kitchen down below (someone whom I won&#8217;t name, I know her), who told me, &#8220;Yes, yes, I&#8217;ll bring you that right now, right now!&#8221; And she brought me a pot, saying, &#8220;Here.&#8221; I went off with my pot, then I felt somewhat suspicious, and once outside, I lifted the lid &#8230; and the first thing I see is earth! Red earth. I scratched off the red earth with my fingers, and underneath <i>(laughing), <\/i>there was a slice of bread!<br \/>\n<P>Anyway, there was a lot like that, I had all sorts of adventures. Then I looked to see if Sri Aurobindo really needed his cup of tea &#8230; because it seemed so difficult! I saw him, there was that wonderful French window, so clear, and then as if recessed into the wall (I don&#8217;t know) a sort of platform couch, a place to sit, but it was very pretty, and he was seated or half-reclining on it, and<P align=\"center\"><br \/>\n<font size=\"2\">Page 155<\/font><\/p>\n<hr>\n<p><P>&nbsp;very comfortable. And there was a boy (or a boy had come to ask him something), and there were kinds of stairs leading up to the couch; the boy was reclining on the stairs, asking questions, and Sri Aurobindo was explaining something. I recognized the boy&#8230;. I thought, &#8220;Ah, <i>(laughing) <\/i>he&#8217;s no longer thinking of his cup of tea, fortunately!&#8221; Then I woke up. But I thought, &#8220;If this is how he sees us &#8230;&#8221; having gobbled up everything, you understand.<\/p>\n<p><i>But a few years ago you told me an almost identical vision in which you were also in search of food for Sri Aurobindo, and you couldn&#8217;t find anything: the people who were supposed to prepare it hadn&#8217;t prepared it or didn&#8217;t know how to&#8230;.[[See conversation of March 17, 1961, Agenda II, p. 129 ff. ]]<\/i><\/p>\n<p><P>That&#8217;s it, it was the same thing.<br \/>\n<P>But it was very concrete, very material, and there was a feeling that there HAD BEEN a plenitude &#8211; everything was sumptuous &#8211; but nothing was left. Everything had been eaten up. I met someone (I am not naming them, but I know them) who told me, &#8220;Oh, yes, it was a fine feast, but we have eaten everything up; there&#8217;s nothing left, we have eaten everything up.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p><i>What does it mean?<\/i><\/p>\n<p><P>I woke up &#8211; not &#8220;woke up,&#8221; anyway when I came out of the vision and pondered over it in the morning, I said to myself, &#8220;Oh, if he really sees us like that, having eaten everything up! &#8230;&#8221; And I brought him a little earth in a pot!<br \/>\n<P>It left me pensive for several hours.<br \/>\n<P align=\"right\"><i> (silence)<\/i><br \/>\n<P>But he seemed to be enveloped in a very supple fabric (you know, those things peculiar to the vital, it&#8217;s a special fabric that isn&#8217;t woven), and it was a beautiful violet &#8211; the violet of a great power.<br \/>\n<P>But the room in which he was &#8230; I still remember that sense of light, such a clear, clear light, so PURE, through the window &#8211; you could see nothing but light.<br \/>\n<P align=\"right\"><i> (silence)<\/i><br \/>\n<P>So we&#8217;ve gobbled up everything.<br \/>\n<P align=\"center\"><font size=\"2\">Page 156<\/font><\/p>\n<hr>\n<p><P>I didn&#8217;t even know there had been feasts; I knew it only when I came into the halls. Besides I wasn&#8217;t hungry and didn&#8217;t want anything; I didn&#8217;t feel I was lacking anything: I didn&#8217;t need anything, I was happy as I was.<br \/>\n<P>And it wasn&#8217;t bad will at all, oh, there was a great desire to serve <i>&#8230; (Mother laughs) <\/i>but, &#8220;There&#8217;s nothing left.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p><i>What&#8217;s swallowing everything up like that?<\/i><\/p>\n<p><P>I don&#8217;t know&#8230;.<br \/>\n<P>I spoke [in the vision] to two people (who are in the Ashram) and to a few people from outside (one or two), and they really had a complete goodwill, they wanted to serve, you see, but there was nothing left. And the one who gave me the pot didn&#8217;t hesitate, she said, &#8220;Yes, yes! I&#8217;ll give it to you,&#8221; and she came back with that! Probably unconscious herself that what she was giving me as tea was only earth &#8211; bread and red earth.<br \/>\n<P>My tea, as I pictured it, was very golden &#8211; clear and golden; and I wanted to give him something with it, I don&#8217;t remember what.<br \/>\n<P>All this is symbolic, probably.<br \/>\n<P>But &#8230; [[In the years 1972-73, an Ashram boy, V., an excellent clairvoyant whom Mother refers to several times in the <i>Agenda, <\/i>had the following vision, which may be related with Mother&#8217;s: he saw the Ashram as if from above, and the whole Ashram ground was scraped clean, as it were, and riddled with innumerable holes and tunnels; rats were going and coming in and out, up and down in a constant hurry-scurry &#8211; there was nothing left, everything had been scraped clean by the rats. ]]<br \/>\n<P align=\"center\">***<br \/>\n<P><i>Before Satprem and Sujata leave, Mother again examines Sujata&#8217;s cyst, concentrating:<\/i><br \/>\n<P>You know, the trick (there is a trick) is to tell the cells that that&#8217;s not at all what is expected of them; that, as I told you the other day, what is expected of them isn&#8217;t at all to gather there into a bundle like that; that it isn&#8217;t their duty to do that &#8211; you must convince them.<br \/>\n<P>It&#8217;s rather peculiar. It is the origin of habits, of course; they are under the impression that &#8220;This is what we have to do, this is what we have to do, this is &#8230;&#8221; <i>(Mother turns a finger in a circle).<\/i><br \/>\n<P>It&#8217;s the same thing with me, but I told them. Only, one should be<br \/>\n<P align=\"center\"><font size=\"2\">Page 157<\/font><\/p>\n<hr>\n<p><P>conscious of the movement, and then, very quietly but very, very confidently,<br \/>\nvery confidently, you tell them as you would children, &quot;No, it&#8217;s not your duty<br \/>\nto do this; this isn&#8217;t your duty.&quot;<br \/>\n<P>All chronic illnesses come from that. There may be an accident (something happens, an accident) and then there is a sort of submissive and unconscious goodwill that causes the effect of the accident to be repeated: &#8220;We must repeat, we must repeat, we must repeat that &#8230;&#8221; <i>(gesture in a circle). <\/i>And it stops only if a consciousness is in contact with the cells and can make them understand that &#8220;No, in this case, you mustn&#8217;t go on repeating!&#8221; <i>(Mother laughs)<\/i><br \/>\n<P>There are cases in which this power of repetition is extremely useful. I even think that this is what gives stability to the form, otherwise we would change form or appearance, or we would liquefy.<br \/>\n<P>That&#8217;s what works for durability.<br \/>\n<P>There is this habit of repetition, and then the sense of a fatality. For instance, if you receive a blow or something goes wrong, immediately there is that sense of fatality: &#8220;Ah, now it&#8217;s like that, now it&#8217;s like that &#8230;&#8221; <i>(same circular gesture). <\/i>So here also (all this is going on in the consciousness of the cells), here also you must tell them: &#8220;No! It&#8217;s not irremediable: if you do like this (for instance, something that has been accidentally twisted), if you have the movement in the opposite direction, it will be remediable.&#8221;<br \/>\n<P>It&#8217;s not brilliant displays of will or powers at all, it&#8217;s not that: it&#8217;s a very, very quiet persuasive power &#8211; exerted very gently but very confidently and very persistently.<br \/>\n<P>None of the vital things work &#8211; they have a momentary effect, then it&#8217;s over.<br \/>\n<P>Oh, it&#8217;s very interesting.<br \/>\n<P>But one has to be very modest to do this work, with no liking for brilliant displays &#8211; very modest. And very quiet.<br \/>\n<P align=\"center\"><font size=\"2\">Page 158<\/font><P><br \/>\n<H3 align=\"center\"><i>July<\/i><\/H3><\/p>\n<p><\/b><\/p>\n<p style=\"margin-top: 0;margin-bottom: 0\" align=\"right\">&nbsp;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>June 30, 1965 (About a cyst) What should be done for Sujata? What did the doctor say? 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