{"id":6233,"date":"2013-07-13T02:06:34","date_gmt":"2013-07-13T02:06:34","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/localhost\/?p=6233"},"modified":"2013-07-13T02:06:34","modified_gmt":"2013-07-13T02:06:34","slug":"37-may-4-1968-vol-09-volume-09","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/worksofthemotherandsriaurobindo.org\/index.php\/02-works-of-the-mother\/03-agenda\/09-volume-09\/37-may-4-1968-vol-09-volume-09","title":{"rendered":"-37_May 4_1968.htm"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><H3>May 4, 1968<\/H3><br \/>\n<P align=\"center\"><i>(Mother gives a flower called &#8220;Divine Purity&#8221;:<\/i><P align=\"center\">&nbsp;<i>Isotoma longiflora.)<\/i><br \/>\n<P>Do you know this?<br \/>\n<P align=\"center\"><font size=\"2\">Page 122<\/font><\/p>\n<hr>\n<p><P>Sri Aurobindo&#8217;s definition of purity is being exclusively under the influence of the Divine. So naturally, the Divine is exclusively under his own influence (!), and that&#8217;s purity!<br \/>\n<P>Any news regarding P.L.?<\/p>\n<p><i>He is expected today.<\/i><\/p>\n<p><P>A &#8220;new fact,&#8221; he said, what can it be?&#8230;<br \/>\n<P>As for me, I had a strong, very strong impression that they wanted to get rid of him, in the sense that either it was the Pope who didn&#8217;t want to hear him, or, more likely, it was his friend, Monsignor R., who didn&#8217;t want the Pope to hear what he had to say. It&#8217;s a very strong impression.<br \/>\n<P>I might put it this way: the impression I got, but a very strong one (very strong, it lasted for at least two days, it was very strong), was of Catholicism defending itself. And as in the mental region they couldn&#8217;t touch P.L, they reached him from below and ruined his health &#8211; they know how to do all that, they are very skilled occultists.<br \/>\n<P>And he didn&#8217;t have this immense balance <i>(vast gesture above) <\/i>thanks to which none of that has any effect. He&#8217;s still open.<\/p>\n<p><i>But he didn&#8217;t even listen to the elementary advice he was<\/i><\/p>\n<p><i>&nbsp;given. He was told, &#8220;Speak only to the Pope and to no one<\/i><\/p>\n<p><i>&nbsp;else.&#8221; And he spoke right and left. He spoke to Cardinal<\/i><\/p>\n<p><i>&nbsp;Tisserant, to this Monsignor R., so &#8230;<\/i><\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><P align=\"right\"><i> (silence)<\/i><br \/>\n<P>They are so attached to their power that they are capable of reverting to their old ways &#8211; excommunication, inquisition and the rest &#8211; to prevent things from moving. That&#8217;s what I feel. That&#8217;s the terrible thing. Whereas the Pope, there was in him an effort to go farther.<\/p>\n<p><i>&#8220;There was,&#8221; did you say?<\/i><\/p>\n<p><P>What did I say?<\/p>\n<p><i>You said, there &#8220;was&#8221; an effort &#8230;<\/i><\/p>\n<p><P>Yes, I am not sure they won&#8217;t &#8230;<br \/>\n<P align=\"right\"><i>(Mother remains silent) <\/i><br \/>\n<P align=\"center\"><font size=\"2\">Page 123<\/font><\/p>\n<hr>\n<p><i>Have you heard the rumor that the Pope was going to abdi<\/i><\/p>\n<p><i>cate? A few days ago, newspapers reported a rumor according<\/i><\/p>\n<p><i>&nbsp;to which the Pope was going to abdicate.<\/i>[[&#8220;POPE RESIGNING? (Vatican City, April 30) Speculation is growing again that Pope Paul may resign as head of the Roman Catholic Church. Talk of such a possibility has become widespread not only in Vatican circles but also among civil officials in Rome. The State-run National Television network is said to have prepared a special programme on the Pope&#8217;s career for broadcast instantly should he abdicate. The usual Vatican informants cannot give credence to the resignation speculation. But they do not rule out the possibility.&#8221; <i>(The Hindu, <\/i>I May 1968) ]]<\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><P>There you are! &#8230; I didn&#8217;t know.<\/p>\n<p><i>There has been a denial, but the rumor has been quite widespread.<\/i><\/p>\n<p><P>That&#8217;s it. That&#8217;s it. I didn&#8217;t know. Oh, it&#8217;s very interesting&#8230;. I think there&#8217;s a band of brigands, over there.<\/p>\n<p><i>Oh, yes!&#8230; X told me that when she was in Rome, she attended<\/i><\/p>\n<p><i>&nbsp;all<br \/>\n  the official receptions, and she said that all those prelates<\/i><\/p>\n<p><i>&nbsp;were as fat as &#8230; they were drinking champagne, brandy &#8230; <\/i>\n  <\/p>\n<p><i>Where was spirituality in that!<\/i><\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><P align=\"right\"><i>(after a silence)<\/i><br \/>\n<P>Oh, the cardinals want to drive the Pope out&#8230;.<br \/>\n<P align=\"right\"><i>(another silence)<\/i><br \/>\n<P>Yes, they are going to resist as much as they can.<\/p>\n<p><i>It would be good if contact could be made between you and him.<\/i><\/p>\n<p><P>(Mother nods her head with force) Yes. Yes.<br \/>\n<P>But I told you, I knew it, these people have a rather considerable occult knowledge and a total lack of scruples. I am absolutely convinced that they are the ones who made P.L. sick. He may not be aware of it (he probably isn&#8217;t), but I am convinced of it, I am sure.<br \/>\n<P>There has been a very strong attack here &#8211; very strong and directly on me. I saw it, you understand &#8211; I saw it. I can&#8217;t say I felt it, but I saw it.<br \/>\n<P align=\"center\"><font size=\"2\">Page 124<\/font><\/p>\n<hr>\n<p><i>Coming from them?<\/i><\/p>\n<p><P>Coming from them.<br \/>\n<P>And not only was it directly on me, but it touched &#8230; <i>(gesture in the Ashram&#8217;s atmosphere), <\/i>it touched. [[A few weeks later, Satprem too will be strongly affected for a long time. ]]<br \/>\n<P>They are skilled.<br \/>\n<P>You know, there&#8217;s only one thing stronger than they, only one: the Lord&#8217;s peace. I don&#8217;t know if you understand what I mean (I speak with words that sound like their own language), but it&#8217;s &#8230; <i>(immense gesture above) &#8230; <\/i>&#8220;That,&#8221; there, they can&#8217;t touch. But it&#8217;s the only thing. Few people know how to shield themselves from &#8220;that&#8221; [magic].<br \/>\n<P align=\"right\"><i>(Mother goes into<\/i><P align=\"right\"><i>&nbsp;a long<br \/>\ncontemplation)<\/i><br \/>\n<P align=\"center\">* * *<br \/>\n<P>When was the last time you came? The day before yesterday? &#8230; The day before yesterday, at 5 in the morning, I read a letter from T.F. which I hadn&#8217;t had the time to read. I was all alone, concentrated, and two sentences came in answer to her letter, which I wanted to write down. I started writing, and I found myself writing with a tiny handwriting! I tried to make it bigger &#8211; impossible. Then I drew within, I looked, and I saw it was Sri Aurobindo who was writing! So naturally, I let him write.<br \/>\n<P>It&#8217;s not his handwriting, but not mine either! It&#8217;s a sort of combination of both&#8230;. I had the same experience years ago, very soon after that &#8220;illness,&#8221; when I began translating <i>Savitri <\/i>here.[[2. See <i>Agenda 4, <\/i>December 31, 1963, p. 434. ]] One day, while writing, it was he who wrote; it was his handwriting, that is, nearly illegible! So <i>(laughing)<\/i> I said, &#8220;No, I don&#8217;t want it!&#8221; (Because it was illegible &#8211; if it had been clearer than mine, I&#8217;d have been happy!) And I stopped. But it came the day before yesterday, and it was &#8230; I forget where I put that paper <i>(Mother looks for it)<\/i>. T. F. said in her letter her impression of who I am, and at the end she wrote, &#8220;If it is truly so, if I am not mistaken &#8230;&#8221; So in answer to that, Sri Aurobindo came and said &#8230; <i>(Mother tries in vain to remember)<\/i>. I don&#8217;t remember the words.<br \/>\n<P>It&#8217;s strange, I can&#8217;t remember.<br \/>\n<P align=\"right\"><i>(here is the text, found later:)<\/i><br \/>\n<P align=\"center\"><font size=\"2\">Page 125<\/font><\/p>\n<hr>\n<p><P>&quot;Divine life in the process of evolution,<P>&nbsp;the divine Consciousness at<br \/>\nwork in Matter<P>&nbsp;&#8211; here is, so to speak, what this existence represents.&quot;<br \/>\n<P>And at the same time, there was the clear vision, the very clear consciousness of the whole thing from the point of view of the earth&#8217;s evolution: what&#8217;s being worked out in the earth&#8217;s evolution.<br \/>\n<P align=\"right\"><i>(long silence)<\/i><br \/>\n<P>All these last days, there has been an INTENSE work, extremely intense, of impersonalization of the physical consciousness&#8230;. It results in a sort of &#8230; <i>(unsteady gesture)<\/i> You understand, the whole solid base that makes up the corporeal person &#8211; hop! gone, taken away. So then, at times there&#8217;s a wobbliness. For instance, for perhaps ten or fifteen minutes, I had a total abolition of memory &#8211; of recollection and memory. And &#8230; Now I am used to those things (there&#8217;s a tremendous number of them), so I stay like that, exclusively turned towards &#8230; all the cells are still, silent and exclusively turned towards the Force, the Consciousness, like this <i>(gesture with the arms opened upward), <\/i>and they wait. And then, there is a sort of concentration of energy, of force, and suddenly, as if coming from elsewhere (that&#8217;s a very odd sensation) &#8230; You see, all that we do, all that we know, everything is based on a sort of semiconscious memory which is there &#8211; that&#8217;s gone. And there&#8217;s nothing anymore. It&#8217;s replaced by a sort of luminous Presence, and &#8230; things are there, but you don&#8217;t know how. It&#8217;s not as if they had come back as before, it&#8217;s not that, it&#8217;s &#8230; They&#8217;re there effortlessly. And what&#8217;s there is ONLY JUST what&#8217;s needed at a given moment. There isn&#8217;t all that baggage you constantly drag behind yourself like that, as before, it&#8217;s not that: there&#8217;s JUST the thing you need. But you have to be very, very still; if you&#8217;re restless or excited in the least, or even if you make an effort, there&#8217;s nothing anymore&#8230;. And on the most material level, there is also a sort of perception that the whole material equilibrium of the past has disappeared too, and that anything may happen at any time&#8230;. Fortunately (that must be why it&#8217;s done), fortunately the cells have a very ardent faith, very ardent.<br \/>\n<P>I told you just before that I had felt that avalanche of attacks. It came in a very subtle form: the unreality of the conception that has been admitted and adopted &#8211; the unreality of the divine Presence<P align=\"center\"><br \/>\n<font size=\"2\">Page 126<\/font><\/p>\n<hr>\n<p><P>&nbsp;in the body, the unreality of the world in transformation towards a more and more divine state; like an unreality surging up <i>(gesture as of a wave from below), <\/i>in a sly way, to cut off the base and support of the faith.<br \/>\n<P>But the Consciousness was there, and the awareness that it was an attack; and there was no battle, no attempt to convince or anything, simply like that <i>(Mother opens her arms upward), <\/i>a TOTAL <i>surrender.<\/i><br \/>\n<P>And that &#8230; I told you, it can&#8217;t be touched.<br \/>\n<P>A luminous stillness.<br \/>\n<P>And little by little, the whole consciousness of the cells emerges from that hold and is reborn in the Light.<br \/>\n<P>It was very, very interesting.<br \/>\n<P>And naturally, the attack came with all the suggestions of illness, death, decomposition, unreality &#8211; all of that swarming around.<br \/>\n<P>There wasn&#8217;t even one attempt of struggle or anything, nothing; quite simply <i>(same gesture with open arms), <\/i>an aspiration and self-giving.<br \/>\n<P>It&#8217;s not yet over, but &#8230; I intended to talk about it only once it was fully over, but because of this [the question of the Pope&#8217;s abdication], I see it has hastened things &#8211; hastened and concentrated.<br \/>\n<P>We&#8217;ll see. 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