{"id":6253,"date":"2013-07-13T02:06:40","date_gmt":"2013-07-13T02:06:40","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/localhost\/?p=6253"},"modified":"2013-07-13T02:06:40","modified_gmt":"2013-07-13T02:06:40","slug":"23-march-20-1968-vol-09-volume-09","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/worksofthemotherandsriaurobindo.org\/index.php\/02-works-of-the-mother\/03-agenda\/09-volume-09\/23-march-20-1968-vol-09-volume-09","title":{"rendered":"-23_March 20_1968.htm"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><H3>March 20, 1968<\/H3><\/p>\n<p><i>There&#8217;s a problem. It&#8217;s about P.L. &#8211; do you know who he is?<\/i>[[A visitor who has been staying in the Ashram for some time. ]]<\/p>\n<p><P>No.<\/p>\n<p><i>He is one of the dignitaries of the Roman Curia.<\/i><\/p>\n<p><P>I don&#8217;t understand! He is a Catholic?<\/p>\n<p><i>He&#8217;s going to be appointed bishop in [such and such a country].<\/i><\/p>\n<p><P>&#8230;!!!<\/p>\n<p><i>So there&#8217;s a problem. He is an important person, and he wants<\/i><\/p>\n<p><i>&nbsp;to<br \/>\n  leave everything &#8211; this whole Christianity he rejects, he no<\/i><\/p>\n<p><i>&nbsp;longer wants it. He wants to leave his Church, his episcopate,<\/i><\/p>\n<p><i>&nbsp;everything, and remain here. He has &quot;found&quot; something here. <\/i>\n  <\/p>\n<p align=\"center\"><font size=\"2\">Page 85<\/font><\/p>\n<hr>\n<p><P>Yes, I saw that man: he was very much attached.<\/p>\n<p><i>Yes, and he wants to leave everything. But it&#8217;s a problem,<\/i><\/p>\n<p><i>&nbsp;because<br \/>\n  the slightest thing may cause scandals in Italy. The<\/i><\/p>\n<p><i>&nbsp;Communists are always ready to seize on the least opportunity: <\/i>\n  <\/p>\n<p><i>a priest who gives up the frock &#8230; Not only a priest, but an <\/i><\/p>\n<p><i>apprentice bishop of the Roman Curia. So he would like it to<\/i><\/p>\n<p><i>&nbsp;take place without scandals. But how should he go about it?<\/i><\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><P>I saw the man, and I found him very good.<\/p>\n<p><i>He is very good. He has something. He has experiences with Sri<\/i><\/p>\n<p><i>&nbsp;Aurobindo, he sees Sri Aurobindo. But there too, there&#8217;s a pro<\/i><\/p>\n<p><i>blem. First, he needs your force: he&#8217;s a man without much<\/i><\/p>\n<p><i>&nbsp;force vitally and physically. When he goes out of his body &#8230;<\/i><\/p>\n<p><i>&nbsp;The other day, he saw Sri Aurobindo at the Samadhi, and at<\/i><\/p>\n<p><i>&nbsp;the same time his body was being devoured by wild beasts and<\/i><\/p>\n<p><i>thrown out of his bed. He is attacked, he needs to be protected.<\/i><\/p>\n<p><i>&nbsp;Vitally and physically, he is weak. So you understand, if he<\/i><\/p>\n<p><i>&nbsp;goes back to Rome, those people won&#8217;t let him go without a<\/i><\/p>\n<p><i>&nbsp;battle&#8230;. He&#8217;d like to ask you how he should proceed?<\/i><\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><P>Is he from [such and such a country]?<\/p>\n<p><i>Yes, and he is employed in Rome&#8217;s Court, he looks after divorce<\/i><\/p>\n<p><i>&nbsp;cases. So on the one hand he needs your force to carry out this  <\/i>\n  <\/p>\n<p><i>operation &#8211; it really is an operation &#8211; and then, what&#8217;s the way<\/i><\/p>\n<p><i>&nbsp;to avoid a scandal? He told me he is the right-hand man of<\/i><\/p>\n<p><i>&nbsp;Cardinal T. <\/i>[[Cardinal Tisserant, who died in 1972. ]]<i>: &#8220;Should I use my influence with Cardinal T. to<\/i><\/p>\n<p><i>&nbsp;be given a sort of mission outside Rome, in Africa or in India,<\/i><\/p>\n<p><i>&nbsp;gradually distancing myself from Rome, keeping out of the<\/i><\/p>\n<p><i>&nbsp;limelight, and then disappearing? Or should I directly speak to<\/i><\/p>\n<p><i>&nbsp;the Pope and tell him clearly all that&#8217;s going on?&#8230;&#8221; Because<\/i><\/p>\n<p><i>&nbsp;you know that when the Pope came to Bombay, P.L. was with<\/i><\/p>\n<p><i>&nbsp;him in the plane&#8230;.<\/i><\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><P>I prefer the solution of speaking to the Pope.<br \/>\n<P align=\"right\"><i>(Mother goes into<\/i><P align=\"right\"><i>&nbsp;a long<br \/>\nconcentration)<\/i><br \/>\n<P align=\"center\"><font size=\"2\">Page 86<\/font><\/p>\n<hr>\n<p><P>Is he the one who fainted here during a meditation?<\/p>\n<p><i>Yes, vitally and physically he is weak.<\/i><\/p>\n<p><P>But vitally, the Pope is very strong. That&#8217;s troublesome.<br \/>\n<P align=\"right\"><i>(Mother again goes into<\/i><P align=\"right\"><i>&nbsp;a long<br \/>\nconcentration)<\/i><br \/>\n<P>It&#8217;s the only way. That danger is there, but he&#8217;ll have to go through it.<br \/>\n<P>When is he leaving?<\/p>\n<p><i>Early in April. He&#8217;ll ask to see you before he goes.<\/i><\/p>\n<p><P>Yes. But I won&#8217;t speak.<br \/>\n<P>From here where will he go first?<\/p>\n<p><i>To Rome, I think.<\/i><\/p>\n<p><P align=\"right\"><i>(silence)<\/i><\/p>\n<p><i>But I have a feeling the Pope may also be interested?<\/i><\/p>\n<p><P align=\"right\"><i>(Mother nods her head)<\/i><P align=\"center\"><font size=\"2\">Page 87<\/font><\/p>\n<p style=\"margin-top: 0;margin-bottom: 0\" align=\"right\">&nbsp;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>March 20, 1968 There&#8217;s a problem. 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