{"id":6422,"date":"2013-07-13T02:07:36","date_gmt":"2013-07-13T02:07:36","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/localhost\/?p=6422"},"modified":"2013-07-13T02:07:36","modified_gmt":"2013-07-13T02:07:36","slug":"13-february-18-1970-vol-11-volume-11","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/worksofthemotherandsriaurobindo.org\/index.php\/02-works-of-the-mother\/03-agenda\/11-volume-11\/13-february-18-1970-vol-11-volume-11","title":{"rendered":"-13_February 18_1970.htm"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><H3>February 18, 1970<\/H3><br \/>\n<P align=\"center\"><i>(Since early February Mother has been coughing a lot. On the 14th,  <\/i><br \/>\n<P align=\"center\"><i>Mother was unwell and could not see Satprem. The following <\/i><br \/>\n<P align=\"center\"><i>conversation is very important as it marks the visible<br \/>\nbeginning<\/i><P align=\"center\"><i>&nbsp;of a conflict that might be called<br \/>\n&quot;medical&quot; and was going to<\/i><P align=\"center\"><i>&nbsp;assume acute proportions<br \/>\nwith every passing year.)<\/i><br \/>\n<P align=\"center\"><font size=\"2\">Page 81<\/font><\/p>\n<hr>\n<p><P>I&#8217;ve never had such a cold in my whole life! Last night I had a kind of physical nightmare!&#8230; Never in my life have I had such things&#8230;. I can&#8217;t say I was quite asleep, but &#8230; How can I explain? It&#8217;s a mixture between something that tries to find its true inner remedy, and the Doctor who says that if I don&#8217;t take medicines it&#8217;ll go on &quot;for months&quot;!<br \/>\n<P><\/p>\n<p><i>Yes, they always say that.<\/i><\/p>\n<p><P>So &#8230;<br \/>\n<P>Oh, but it would take hours to tell it all. It&#8217;s certainly in the material world. So then <i>(laughing),<\/i> last night, suddenly I saw two tall figures with human shapes, but all gray and you couldn&#8217;t make out eyes or nose and so on. They had a human shape and all gray; they were the two &quot;doctors&quot; (what doctors I don&#8217;t know), and they were discussing. My body was on the bed (though I think I wasn&#8217;t sitting, yet I wasn&#8217;t standing!), and they were discussing together but without words. It looked like kinds of beings in a lower vital world, <i>huge,<\/i> tall beings &#8211; tall, strong, formidable. Then one of them, in his demonstration, pointed to my heart with his finger, and his finger touched &#8211; I let out a scream! A physical scream!<br \/>\n<P>I wasn&#8217;t happy.<br \/>\n<P>Never, never, never touched, never. Once, I had a very high fever, 108#0fb, it was tremendous (it didn&#8217;t last long, a few hours); I had caught that when I went to a gathering of workers doing a puja or something. [[<i>Ayudh puja or<\/i> &quot;festival of arms.&quot; On a similar occasion, when Mother was seriously attacked, Sri Aurobindo had to write the disciples a letter in which he said, &quot;The Mother has had a very severe attack and she must absolutely husband her forces&#8230;. It is quite out of the question for her to begin seeing everybody and receiving them &#8211; a single morning of that kind of thing would exhaust her altogether. You must remember that for her a physical contact of this kind with others is not a mere social or domestic meeting with a few superficial movements which make no great difference one way or the other. It means for her an interchange, a pouring out of her forces and a receiving of things good, bad and mixed from them which often involves a great labour of adjustment and elimination and in many cases, though not in all, a severe strain on the body&quot; (November 12, 1931, Cent. Ed., 25.315) ]]  I had caught a fever. But Sri Aurobindo was there. And I saw, I saw all the beings of the most material vital charging <i>(gesture of onslaught on the body). I remember that, it was in Sri Aurobindo&#8217;s time (quite a long time ago). I saw them, and I said to Sri Aurobindo, &quot;So that&#8217;s what gives people dreadful nightmares.&quot; They would draw near (they would try to), and on touching Sri Aurobindo&#8217;s presence around me they would draw back, then they<\/i><P align=\"center\"><br \/>\n<font size=\"2\">Page 82<\/font><\/p>\n<hr>\n<p><P> <i>&nbsp;would come back again and would be repulsed &#8211; it lasted the whole night. But last night, it wasn&#8217;t that&#8230;. Naturally, Sri Aurobindo wasn&#8217;t there physically, and &#8230; I saw those beings. The main thing is that when that being in his demonstration touched me with his finger, it made me scream &#8211; I screamed materially.<\/i><br \/>\n<P><\/p>\n<p><i>Yes, he touched you.<\/i><\/p>\n<p><P>Ah, yes &#8211; he was ABLE to touch me.<br \/>\n<P><\/p>\n<p><i>All that because of the &quot;doctors.&quot;<\/i><\/p>\n<p><P>Yes, they pretended to be doctors.<br \/>\n<P>Ah, materially one isn&#8217;t well protected, otherwise things wouldn&#8217;t be like that&#8230;. Materially I am protected only when I am not asleep, wholly concentrated and absolutely still, without speaking to anyone, in contact with nothing around and only wrapped, as it were, in the divine Presence. Then it&#8217;s fine. But things are far from being like that! <i>(Mother coughs)<\/i><br \/>\n<P align=\"right\"><i>(silence)<\/i><br \/>\n<P>You can put it in the <i>Agenda,<\/i> but we shouldn&#8217;t speak about it. In the <i>Agenda,<\/i> yes, but not otherwise.<br \/>\n<P align=\"right\"><i>(long silence)<\/i><br \/>\n<P><\/p>\n<p><i>But you know, Mother, several times I had that sort of<br \/>\n  &quot;medical<\/i><\/p>\n<p><i>&nbsp;dream&quot; in winch a kind of doctor comes under the<br \/>\n  pretext of <\/i><\/p>\n<p><i>curing you and hurts you terribly, or else tries to operate on you,<\/i><\/p>\n<p><i>&nbsp;wants to torture the body in order to operate on you. So in the<\/i><\/p>\n<p><i>&nbsp;beginning you are quite submissive, you say, &quot;All right, I have<\/i><\/p>\n<p><i>&nbsp;to be operated on,&quot; and then finally the consciousness returns<\/i><\/p>\n<p><i>&nbsp;and you reject that so-called doctor. It&#8217;s happened often to me. A<\/i><\/p>\n<p><i>&nbsp;being who claims he comes to cure you: a &quot;doctor.&quot;<\/i><\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><P>I think that&#8217;s it, I think there are beings from the vital who use &#8230; who use what&#8217;s left of unconsciousness in doctors.<br \/>\n<P align=\"right\"><i>(silence)<\/i><br \/>\n<P>But once it happened to Sri Aurobindo: at night &#8211; once at night &#8211; he screamed. And afterwards he said it was in the material world: beings from the most material vital, but which are in the earth atmosphere, not in the vital atmosphere.<br \/>\n<P align=\"center\"><font size=\"2\">Page 83<\/font><\/p>\n<hr>\n<p><P>It may be vital entities that are the residues of dead people &#8211; it&#8217;s possible. But it may also be kinds of half materializations of beings from the vital itself: beings from the vital.<br \/>\n<P>But my whole life I&#8217;ve had that sort of white light &#8211; not transparent white, white like &#8230; like WHITENESS, you understand. That light, which is extremely intense. Never, never did they come near &#8211; they couldn&#8217;t come near that. There was only that night when I had a fever (it was &#8230; I think it was in 1918, something like that &#8230; no, in 1920 [[Mother may be thinking of the epidemic in Japan in January 1919, during which she very nearly died, while the fever caught during the festival of arms was in 1931. ]] ), but then, I had caught the fever with people. Otherwise, never, never could they come near.<br \/>\n<P align=\"center\"><font size=\"2\">Page 84<\/font><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>February 18, 1970 (Since early February Mother has been coughing a lot. On the 14th, Mother was unwell and could not see Satprem. 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