{"id":6441,"date":"2013-07-13T02:07:43","date_gmt":"2013-07-13T02:07:43","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/localhost\/?p=6441"},"modified":"2013-07-13T02:07:43","modified_gmt":"2013-07-13T02:07:43","slug":"48-june-27-1970-vol-11-volume-11","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/worksofthemotherandsriaurobindo.org\/index.php\/02-works-of-the-mother\/03-agenda\/11-volume-11\/48-june-27-1970-vol-11-volume-11","title":{"rendered":"-48_June 27_1970.htm"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><H3>June 27, 1970<\/H3><br \/>\n<P align=\"center\"><i>(Mother&#8217;s face is swollen by a tooth abscess.)<\/i><br \/>\n<P><\/p>\n<p><i> We&#8217;d need some &quot;Notes [on the Way]&quot; for the August Bulletin. <\/i><\/p>\n<p><P>But you have some! <i>(laughter)<\/i><br \/>\n<P><\/p>\n<p><i>There is something indeed, but it&#8217;s a long time since you&#8217;ve<\/i><\/p>\n<p><i>&nbsp;stopped<br \/>\n  speaking.<\/i><\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><P align=\"right\"><i>(long silence)<\/i><br \/>\n<P><\/p>\n<p><i>Still, once or twice I wondered if your not speaking was due<br \/>\n  to<\/i><\/p>\n<p><i>&nbsp;something in me?<\/i><\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><P>No!<br \/>\n<P><\/p>\n<p><i>Something in my attitude, or I don&#8217;t know what?<\/i><\/p>\n<p><P>No, no, mon petit! No, it&#8217;s not that. It&#8217;s not that.<br \/>\n<P>It would be that if I could speak to someone else, but with everyone it&#8217;s the same thing.<br \/>\n<P>Something is going on &#8211; it&#8217;s not that it&#8217;s not going on, but &#8230;<br \/>\n<P align=\"right\"><i>(very long silence <br \/>Mother moans now and then)<\/i><br \/>\n<P align=\"center\"><font size=\"2\">Page 240<\/font><\/p>\n<hr>\n<p><P>You understand, expressing takes a minimum of mentalization, and that&#8217;s what is very difficult, because it&#8217;s the body that&#8217;s going through all kinds of experiences and is learning, but as soon as there is an attempt to express, it says, &quot;No, it&#8217;s not true! It&#8217;s not like that&#8230;.&quot; <i>(Mother draws small squares, like boxes)<\/i> It&#8217;s like doing geometrical drawings with life, that&#8217;s its impression.<br \/>\n<P>Even otherwise, it&#8217;s inexpressible, because it&#8217;s manifold, complex, and if you don&#8217;t develop a whole explanation for it &#8230; it can&#8217;t even be said. As soon as you develop a whole explanation, it&#8217;s no longer true.<br \/>\n<P>All these last few days, it has been this experience of the consciousness that a very slight shift (how could I put it?), a very slight change of attitude, which isn&#8217;t even expressible, and in one case you are in divine bliss; then, things remaining exactly the same, it almost becomes a torture! That&#8217;s something constant. At times, you know, the body would scream in pain, and &#8230; a very slight, very slight change, which is almost inexpressible, and it becomes bliss &#8211; it becomes &#8230; it&#8217;s something else, this extraordinary thing of the Divine everywhere. So the body is constantly switching from one to the other, like a sort of gymnastics, a struggle of the consciousness between the two.<br \/>\n<P>It&#8217;s becoming extremely acute; sometimes, at certain seconds, just when the body says, &quot;Ah, enough, I&#8217;ve had enough &#8230;&quot; pffft!&#8230; <i>(Mother makes a gesture of reversal).<\/i><br \/>\n<P>So it&#8217;s impossible to say. Whatever one may say is no longer really true.<br \/>\n<P>And all these suffering vibrations <i>(Mother points to her cheek)<\/i> are as though supported by the mass of the general human consciousness &#8211; that&#8217;s right. While the other [state] is supported by &#8230; something that doesn&#8217;t seem to intervene, that&#8217;s like this <i>(immutable gesture)<\/i> in comparison with this human mass that tends to express itself &#8230; So all that is impossible to say.<br \/>\n<P>Constantly, constantly, there is either this immutable Peace &#8211; this superlative Peace, you know, which is more than any peace one may feel &#8211; and at the same time one knows (I can&#8217;t say &quot;one feels,&quot; but one knows) that the movement of transformation is so rapid that it can&#8217;t be perceived materially. And the two are concomitant, this body goes from one to the other, and sometimes &#8230; sometimes almost the two together! <i>(Mother shakes her head, noting the impossibility of expressing herself.)<\/i><br \/>\n<P>So then, to the vision of ordinary things, anyway of life as it is, it gives<br \/>\na perception from the standpoint&#8230; not the divine standpoint,<br \/>\n<P align=\"center\"><font size=\"2\">Page 241<\/font><\/p>\n<hr>\n<p><P>but in comparison with the Divine, it gives the perception of a general<br \/>\nmadness, and no really perceptible difference between what people call &quot;mad&quot; and<br \/>\nwhat they call &quot;reasonable.&quot; That&#8230; it&#8217;s comical, the difference people make.<br \/>\nOne would be tempted to say, &quot;But you are ALL like that, to varying degrees!&#8230;&quot;<br \/>\nSo &#8230;<br \/>\n<P>All that is a WORLD of simultaneous perceptions, so it&#8217;s really impossible to speak.<br \/>\n<P>There&#8217;s really nothing there <i>(Mother touches her head),<\/i> it doesn&#8217;t go through there, there&#8217;s nothing there. It&#8217;s something &#8230; something without a precise form, which has an INNUMERABLE experience at the same time, with a capacity of expression that has remained as it is, that is to say, incapable.<br \/>\n<P align=\"right\"><i>(silence)<\/i><br \/>\n<P>For instance, with anything happening, there is, at the same time, the explanation (&quot;explanation&quot; isn&#8217;t the right word, but anyway &#8230;), the explanation of the ordinary human consciousness (&quot;ordinary,&quot; I don&#8217;t mean banal, I mean the human consciousness), then the explanation as Sri Aurobindo gives it in an illumined mind, and then &#8230; the divine perception. All three simultaneously, for the same thing &#8211; how, how do you describe it?!<br \/>\n<P>And it&#8217;s constant, it&#8217;s all the time like that. So then, this <i>(Mother points to her body)<\/i> isn&#8217;t in a condition to express itself, it&#8217;s not the time for expression.<br \/>\n<P>To such a point that when I write it&#8217;s also like that. So I try to put what our idiotic formulas can hold &#8211; and I put so much, so much that can&#8217;t be expressed with words, that when they read back to me what I wrote, I feel like saying, &quot;You must be joking, you took away everything!&#8230;&quot;<br \/>\n<P align=\"center\"><font size=\"2\">Page 242<\/font><\/b><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>June 27, 1970 (Mother&#8217;s face is swollen by a tooth abscess.) We&#8217;d need some &quot;Notes [on the Way]&quot; for the August Bulletin. 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