{"id":6463,"date":"2013-07-13T02:07:51","date_gmt":"2013-07-13T02:07:51","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/localhost\/?p=6463"},"modified":"2013-07-13T02:07:51","modified_gmt":"2013-07-13T02:07:51","slug":"55-july-25-1970-vol-11-volume-11","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/worksofthemotherandsriaurobindo.org\/index.php\/02-works-of-the-mother\/03-agenda\/11-volume-11\/55-july-25-1970-vol-11-volume-11","title":{"rendered":"-55_July 25_1970.htm"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><H3>July 25, 1970<\/H3><br \/>\n<P>Years ago, I used to get B.&#8217;s notebook, and I would answer him. Then, once, I forgot it. Yesterday he wrote to tell me that he&#8217;d like to have his notebook back, and I found it again. And in it, there was a question I had left unanswered.<br \/>\n<P>So I answered&#8230;. This morning I &quot;presented&quot; that question [to the Lord], and it was as if it was waiting for the occasion. I received a reply &#8230; simple, as always, but explaining the WHOLE, entire functioning. When I saw that, it was such an illumination that&#8230; everything became so simple! (I wrote it down, but it&#8217;s nothing, it looks like a commonplace.) But it puts an end to all questions. It was absolutely wonderful!<br \/>\n<P>So instead of sending the notebook back to him, I kept it to show it to you, because it looks like nothing at all, but if it gives others the experience it gave me, it&#8217;s something!&#8230; For several hours I lived in a Peace nothing can disturb&#8230;. It&#8217;s so simple, so simple!<br \/>\n<P align=\"right\"><i>(Satprem reads the notebook)<\/i><br \/>\n<P><\/p>\n<p><i>Mother,<\/i><\/p>\n<p><P><\/p>\n<p><i>Does the Divine punish injustice? Is it possible for<\/i><\/p>\n<p><i>&nbsp;Him<br \/>\n  to ever punish anyone?<\/i><\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><P><i>(Mother laughs)<\/i> He always had a very childlike way to ask questions! So I answered:<br \/>\n<P><\/p>\n<p>&quot;After so many years, I find the forgotten notebook<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;again,<br \/>\n  and I answer:<\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><P><\/p>\n<p>&quot;The Divine does not see things the way men do &#8230;<\/p>\n<p><P>That&#8217;s intended for B.<br \/>\n<P><\/p>\n<p>&quot;&#8230; and does not need to punish and reward. All<\/p>\n<p><P><\/p>\n<p>actions carry in themselves their fruit along with<\/p>\n<p><P><\/p>\n<p>their consequences.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;&quot;According to its nature, the action<br \/>\n  brings you<\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><P><\/p>\n<p>closer to the Divine or takes you away from the<\/p>\n<p><P><\/p>\n<p>Divine &#8230;<\/p>\n<p align=\"center\"><font size=\"2\">Page 274<\/font><\/p>\n<hr>\n<p><P>So &#8230; you see in the universe the immense Movement drawing closer to the Divine, and how EVERYTHING, everything in it is like that [advancing towards the Divine]&#8230;. I&#8217;d like to pass on to you my experience, it&#8217;s extraordinary!&#8230; Simply that.<br \/>\n<P><\/p>\n<p>&quot;&#8230; and that is the supreme consequence.&quot;<\/p>\n<p><P>It&#8217;s created in such a way, organized in such a way that EVERYTHING is like that, and every second (so then I understand; I understand movements I have felt in the consciousness, which I couldn&#8217;t explain to myself), it&#8217;s automatic and CONTINUOUS, every second (we divide it into seconds, but it&#8217;s continuous). So it&#8217;s going forward towards the Divine, towards the conscious identification with the Divine, or else going backward. The body had felt things it didn&#8217;t understand, because the consciousness was in a certain way, and some things were wrong (a very slight discomfort suddenly, you don&#8217;t know why) &#8211; that&#8217;s the reason. It explains everything, EVERYTHING. That way, the working of the universe is FULLY explained.<br \/>\n<P><\/p>\n<p><i>It instantly does away with all notions of sin, of evil&#8230;.<\/i><\/p>\n<p><P>But all, all human conceptions fall away. It&#8217;s so simple! So simple. And this whole huge mental edifice people have built to try and explain falls to the ground.<br \/>\n<P>It [the working] is automatic.<br \/>\n<P>Automatic and universal. And I noticed it wasn&#8217;t something vague or imprecise: it&#8217;s exact, as if every element had its own destiny&#8230;. One day you may take a big step backward, and the next day a big step forward. It explains the whole apparent confusion of the world.<br \/>\n<P>Oh, suddenly I was lighter. As if a weight, a weight of Ignorance had been taken off from me.<br \/>\n<P align=\"right\"><i>(silence)<\/i><br \/>\n<P>And you see how things are arranged: I didn&#8217;t do it deliberately, I found this notebook again only when I was capable of understanding. At that time. God knows what answer I would have written! It came just when I was capable of replying. It&#8217;s marvelous!<br \/>\n<P><\/p>\n<p><i>Yes, all that is really microscopically precise.<\/i><\/p>\n<p align=\"center\">\n  <font size=\"2\">Page 275<\/font><\/p>\n<hr>\n<p><P>Yes, yes, exactly! It&#8217;s the precision, the exactness &#8211; it&#8217;s the Supreme Consciousness everywhere. We even have difficulty conceiving it, but its obvious &#8230; blindingly obvious.<br \/>\n<P align=\"right\"><i>(silence)<\/i><br \/>\n<P>Do you have something to say?<br \/>\n<P><\/p>\n<p><i>No, I only have a question of spelling!<\/i><\/p>\n<p><P>Oh, mon petit, I make as many spelling errors as possible! <i>(Mother laughs)<\/i><br \/>\n<P><\/p>\n<p><i>It&#8217;s about those famous &quot;Aurovillians&quot;&#8230;.<\/i><\/p>\n<p><P>I write it with a single &quot;I.&quot;<br \/>\n<P><\/p>\n<p><i>Deliberately?<\/i><\/p>\n<p><P>Deliberately. <i>(Laughing)<\/i> Its not French, it&#8217;s Aurovilian!<br \/>\n<P align=\"right\"><i>(silence)<\/i><br \/>\n<P>Since this morning, I&#8217;ve been in an extraordinary joy, everything has become clear!<br \/>\n<P>And the amusing thing is that we thought we knew &#8211; we thought we knew that, it doesn&#8217;t look like a revelation &#8230; and we didn&#8217;t really know it! It&#8217;s as if something had been reversed.<br \/>\n<P align=\"right\"><i>(silence)<\/i><br \/>\n<P>If we could explain this difference of understanding, it would explain the difference between the mental functioning (even the higher mind, the highest intellectual functioning) and the functioning of the divine Consciousness&#8230;. I feel it, but &#8230; <i>(Mother tries to explains, then gives up).<\/i><br \/>\n<P>The mental functioning explains &#8211; it explains. Things are consequences (even my word &quot;consequence&quot; in the notebook, I&#8217;m not sure it&#8217;s the right one), it &quot;explains,&quot; whereas this is spontaneous. It&#8217;s not the result of a decision, it&#8217;s spontaneous. One might almost say it&#8217;s automatic. We always feel (&quot;we,&quot; I mean human beings), we think of the divine Action as a supra-human action, that is, which first sees THEN decides &#8211; but it&#8217;s not that! It&#8217;s &#8230; yes, an automatism, I don&#8217;t know how to put it.<br \/>\n<P align=\"center\"><font size=\"2\">Page 276<\/font><\/p>\n<hr>\n<p><P>I must say that two days ago, I had an experience (it was with R. again, she was here), an experience of the whole universe, like a general vision of an Immensity, and then, suddenly the consciousness seemed to become a point taking up no room, and that point was the Eternal Consciousness. But then, it was so strong! So strong &#8230; how all this, this whole unfolded universe was the result of this Consciousness <i>(Mother shows a point).<\/i> You understand, the consciousness here became this Eternal Consciousness (for a few seconds perhaps, I don&#8217;t think it lasted even a minute, but time had nothing to do with it), it was the Eternal, it was the Consciousness. And that experience already prepared something [in Mother], because the two were simultaneous; one didn&#8217;t abolish the other, the two were simultaneous: this Point that was taking up no room but was eternal, was everything, and at the same time, the unfolding [of the universe]. That was a very intense experience. Then there only remained this vagueness that is the &quot;whole,&quot; but it didn&#8217;t lose its impression of vagueness, that is to say, of something imprecise. Since that time, there has been something changed [in Mother]. And today, in this consciousness, when the answer came, it wasn&#8217;t the knowledge of &quot;that&quot; &#8211; it wasn&#8217;t the knowledge, it was the working. All of a sudden, I had BECOME the working. So then, I expressed it as best I could in this notebook&#8230;. It had such simplicity, you know, a marvelous, all-powerful simplicity!<br \/>\n<P>Words are approximations. I had to use words because I had to write for him, but the experience came like that, the working: the experience of this universal Immensity returning to the Divine Consciousness, how it returns &#8211; and innumerably, of course, with all possible experiences, but with a marvelous sim-plic-i-ty.<br \/>\n<P align=\"right\"><i>(long silence)<\/i><br \/>\n<P>Words &#8230;<br \/>\n<P>It gave me at the same time a sort of bodily experience of the universal movement of the return of the consciousness towards the Divine; and that &#8230; a perception that wasn&#8217;t mental at all, not at all, as if all the cells felt this movement, you understand, this movement of immense return towards the Consciousness.<br \/>\n<P>It must be the movement of the universe towards the Supreme.<br \/>\n<P>I must say that certain things contributed to the experience: in answer to<br \/>\ncertain questions, yesterday Z told me about the age of the earth, and how they<br \/>\nhave now managed to measure it (things that are the mental approach to the<br \/>\nproblem), and suddenly, when he spoke, suddenly there came this sort of union<br \/>\nand &#8230; (what<P align=\"center\"><font size=\"2\">Page 277<\/font><\/p>\n<hr>\n<p><P>&nbsp;should I say?) almost a sensation, in the body, of the earth returning<br \/>\nto the Divine Consciousness. So the conjunction, combination of all that<br \/>\nresulted in this experience.<br \/>\n<P align=\"right\"><i>(silence)<\/i><br \/>\n<P>Previously when I used to have experiences (long ago, years ago), it was the mind that benefited more or less, and then it would spread it, use it; now it&#8217;s not like that: it&#8217;s directly the body, it&#8217;s the body that has the experience, and it&#8217;s MUCH TRUER. There&#8217;s an intellectual attitude that puts a kind of veil or &#8230; I don&#8217;t know, something &#8230; something unreal on the perception of things &#8211; an attitude, it&#8217;s an attitude. It&#8217;s like seeing through a certain veil or a certain &#8230; something &#8230; a certain atmosphere, whereas the body feels the thing in itself, it BECOMES that. It feels in itself. It&#8217;s not as if the thing were taken like this <i>(gesture of absorption in oneself),<\/i> it&#8217;s as if the body itself BECAME that <i>(gesture of bursting or expansion). <\/i>Instead of shrinking the experience down to the individuals scale, the individual widens to the scale of the experience.<br \/>\n<P><i>(Mother goes into a contemplation) <\/i>Do you have anything to say?<br \/>\n<P><\/p>\n<p><i>Once I had a sort of perception which really was an<br \/>\n  experience,<\/i><\/p>\n<p><i>&nbsp;very strong, of this whole universal movement of<br \/>\n  return, and I<\/i><\/p>\n<p><i>&nbsp;had the impression or sensation that everything goes TOWARDS<\/i><\/p>\n<p><i>&nbsp;That, everything is FOR That, that it&#8217;s impossible for anything in<\/i><\/p>\n<p><i>&nbsp;all this to be &quot;against,&quot; for anything not to go in THAT<br \/>\n  direction,<\/i><\/p>\n<p><i>&nbsp;even when apparently it is &quot;against&quot; or &quot;twisted&quot; or &quot;dark&quot; or &#8230;<\/i><\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><P>Yes, yes.<br \/>\n<P><\/p>\n<p><i>I had the impression that everything goes, is FOR That,<br \/>\n  there&#8217;s<\/i><\/p>\n<p><i>&nbsp;nothing against &#8211; the impossibility of anything against<br \/>\n  in all<\/i><\/p>\n<p><i>&nbsp;this.<\/i><\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><P>Yes, it&#8217;s as if &#8230; I don&#8217;t know &#8230; as if the &quot;against&quot; made it nonexistent, you know, in a way incomprehensible to us. An incomprehension that makes us say &quot;against.&quot;<br \/>\n<P><\/p>\n<p><i>It came to me in this form: even what we call the &quot;wrong path&quot;<\/i><\/p>\n<p><i>&nbsp;is<br \/>\n  part of the right path.<\/i><\/p>\n<p align=\"center\"><font size=\"2\">Page 278<\/font><\/p>\n<hr>\n<p><P>Yes.<br \/>\n<P><\/p>\n<p><i>It looks like a paradox&#8230;.<\/i><\/p>\n<p><P>Yes, exactly, its a limitation of vision, quite simply.<br \/>\n<P align=\"right\"><i>(silence)<\/i><br \/>\n<P>With the perception of space (which must correspond to something), things move away (in what I saw, my experience), they move away as if to follow a vaster curve in order to &#8230; That&#8217;s it: the move away is to broaden one&#8217;s horizon or field of action.<br \/>\n<P align=\"right\"><i>(silence)<\/i><br \/>\n<P>But the interesting thing (very interesting for me) is that the body was very preoccupied with all the difficulties of the transformation, and this experience has given it &#8230; I can&#8217;t call it a &quot;joy&quot; (it&#8217;s something infinitely superior and greater, stronger &#8211; it&#8217;s so immense!&#8230;), as if all the cells were dancing with joy. That&#8217;s the impression.<br \/>\n<P>These last few days too, I wondered why the body is so absorbed in the difficulties of the transformation, and I received no answer, except to be patient and tranquil and not to fret &#8211; as always. But now I understand!&#8230; It can only be joyful in a certain atmosphere of truth; then &#8230; everything seems to broaden, to relax, and then there&#8217;s an extraordinary joy with no equivalent in the ordinary perception, none at all.<br \/>\n<P><i>(Laughing)<\/i> It&#8217;s a bit as if someone had taken my head and turned it around! <i>(Mother turns her head upward).<\/i> You know, this <i>(gesture above)<\/i> is where the Consciousness is, so the head was taken and turned the right way! <i>(laughter)<\/i><br \/>\n<P align=\"right\"><i>(silence)<\/i><br \/>\n<P>It&#8217;s limitations that create the sense of evil, of bad &#8211; as soon as you do away with the limitations, it&#8217;s gone.<br \/>\n<P align=\"center\"><font size=\"2\">Page 279<\/font><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>July 25, 1970 Years ago, I used to get B.&#8217;s notebook, and I would answer him. Then, once, I forgot it. 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