{"id":6545,"date":"2013-07-13T02:08:19","date_gmt":"2013-07-13T02:08:19","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/localhost\/?p=6545"},"modified":"2013-07-13T02:08:19","modified_gmt":"2013-07-13T02:08:19","slug":"63-september-12-1964-vol-05-volume-05","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/worksofthemotherandsriaurobindo.org\/index.php\/02-works-of-the-mother\/03-agenda\/05-volume-05\/63-september-12-1964-vol-05-volume-05","title":{"rendered":"-63_September 12_1964.htm"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><H3>September 12, 1964<\/H3><br \/>\n<P align=\"center\"><i>(Satprem reads Mother an old &#8220;Talk&#8221; of February 24, 1951, in which she refers to the memory of past lives and the unbridled imagination of certain people.)<\/i><br \/>\n<P>I didn&#8217;t name her, but it was Annie Besant. She recounted all her lives with all the details &#8211; right from the ape! I didn&#8217;t read her books, incidentally.<\/p>\n<p><i>Oh, I tried several times, but it&#8217;s really all stories, it gets on your nerves.<\/i><\/p>\n<p><P>Yes, that&#8217;s what I call &#8220;spiritual storybooks.&#8221; Worse than that: spiritual pulp novels!<\/p>\n<p><i>It&#8217;s shallow. And it has done a great deal to devalue true knowledge.<\/i><\/p>\n<p><P align=\"right\"><i>(Mother nods her head)<\/i><br \/>\n<P align=\"center\">* * *<br \/>\n<P align=\"center\"><font size=\"2\">Page 187<\/font><\/p>\n<hr>\n<p><P align=\"center\"><i>(Then Satprem reads a passage in which Mother talks about young children who remember their previous lives, the village where they lived, etc., with precise descriptions.)<\/i><br \/>\n<P>That&#8217;s amusing: a few days ago, after I saw you last time, one day I saw a whole story about that, which came back to me (it takes the form of a memory, but those things come from outside). It was about a seven-year-old child who told all his memories of his past lives. It came all at once, and I thought, &#8220;But why am I seeing this?&#8221; I watched it all and why and how it happened &#8211; a long story. And then it went away. It must have been while you were writing down the Talk!<br \/>\n<P>It keeps happening like that all the time!<br \/>\n<P>I still wonder, &#8220;But why has this come?&#8221; instead of saying to myself, &#8220;Oh, here he is reading this story!&#8221;<br \/>\n<P>Amusing.<br \/>\n<P>It&#8217;s growing more and more precise. I lack a very tiny thing in the receiving set &#8230; a very tiny impersonalization. But maybe if it were there the attention wouldn&#8217;t be caught: the thing would unfold <i>(Mother shows a film being projected in front of her), <\/i>and then it would go away.<br \/>\n<P>For the moment, it comes, I stop it [the &#8220;film&#8221;], and then I work on it to clarify the ideas, put things in their place, see all the relationships; and when the work is finished, it goes away.<br \/>\n<P>Only, it takes the form of a memory, so I wonder why I &#8220;remember&#8221; that &#8211; it&#8217;s a lack of true objectification. That&#8217;s how I explain it: otherwise, maybe the thing wouldn&#8217;t be stopped, it would pass on.<br \/>\n<P>But it is an entire &#8220;reconstruction&#8221; of the mental functioning.<br \/>\n<P align=\"center\">* * *<br \/>\n<P align=\"center\"><i>(From the same Talk from the past, Satprem reads a passage in which Mother tells the story of Queen Elizabeth, who, dying, received a delegation from the people in spite of her physician&#8217;s protests: &#8220;We shall die afterwards.&#8221;)<\/i><br \/>\n<P>Is it recent?<\/p>\n<p><i>It&#8217;s from 1951.<\/i><\/p>\n<p><P>Again this whole story of Elizabeth came back to me a few days ago!<P>&nbsp;Since<br \/>\nthen, a part of the consciousness has been more self-assured, but it hasn&#8217;t<br \/>\nchanged its attitude &#8230; (how can I explain it? &#8230;). Its<P align=\"center\"><br \/>\n<font size=\"2\">Page<br \/>\n188<\/font><\/p>\n<hr>\n<p><P>&nbsp;attitude towards the Divine, towards the Work and towards life, is the<br \/>\nsame, but there is a greater clarity and a greater certainty &#8211; and a sort of<br \/>\nintegrality in the experience.<br \/>\n<P>But I said, &#8220;It&#8217;s recent,&#8221; because the things that to me are old are those that give me the feeling of having changed my position and of having a completely opposite outlook &#8211; this Talk hasn&#8217;t changed.<br \/>\n<P>This remark, &#8220;We shall die afterwards,&#8221; is my own experience, it wasn&#8217;t a &#8220;dream&#8221; &#8211; in fact, it&#8217;s never dreams: it&#8217;s a sort of STATE you enter VERY CONSCIOUSLY, and all at once you relive a thing.<br \/>\n<P>Even now I can see the picture: I see the picture of the people, the populace, myself, the gown, the person who nursed me &#8211; I see the whole scene. And I answered &#8230; It was so obvious! I felt so strongly that things are governed by the will that I answered, &#8220;We shall die afterwards,&#8221; quite simply.<br \/>\n<P>In English, not in French!<br \/>\n<P align=\"center\">* * *<br \/>\n<P><i>Just before Satprem leaves, Mother shows him a stack of letters:<\/i><br \/>\n<P>There are very funny things all the time: I answer letters I haven&#8217;t received! Then I receive them afterwards &#8211; my answer is already written down!<br \/>\n<P>Things of that sort&#8230;.<br \/>\n<P align=\"center\"><font size=\"2\">Page 189<\/font><\/p>\n<p><\/b><\/p>\n<p style=\"margin-top: 0;margin-bottom: 0\" align=\"right\">&nbsp;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>September 12, 1964 (Satprem reads Mother an old &#8220;Talk&#8221; of February 24, 1951, in which she refers to the memory of past lives and the&#8230;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[147],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-6545","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-05-volume-05","wpcat-147-id"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/worksofthemotherandsriaurobindo.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/6545","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/worksofthemotherandsriaurobindo.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/worksofthemotherandsriaurobindo.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/worksofthemotherandsriaurobindo.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/worksofthemotherandsriaurobindo.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=6545"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/worksofthemotherandsriaurobindo.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/6545\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/worksofthemotherandsriaurobindo.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=6545"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/worksofthemotherandsriaurobindo.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=6545"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/worksofthemotherandsriaurobindo.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=6545"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}