{"id":6620,"date":"2013-07-13T02:08:44","date_gmt":"2013-07-13T02:08:44","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/localhost\/?p=6620"},"modified":"2013-07-13T02:08:44","modified_gmt":"2013-07-13T02:08:44","slug":"44-june-20-1961-vol-02-volume-02","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/worksofthemotherandsriaurobindo.org\/index.php\/02-works-of-the-mother\/03-agenda\/02-volume-02\/44-june-20-1961-vol-02-volume-02","title":{"rendered":"-44_June 20_1961.htm"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><H3>June 20, 1961<\/H3><br \/>\n<P align=\"center\"><i>(Following a meditation with X.)<\/i><br \/>\n<P>We&#8217;ve been having these meditations for four days now and this is the fourth day of total silence &#8211; motionless, soundless (I don&#8217;t know if there is sound outside or not; I don&#8217;t know anything). A complete immobility right to the end.<P align=\"center\"><br \/>\n<font size=\"2\">Page&nbsp; 228<\/font><\/p>\n<hr>\n<p><i>When all is immobile like that and nothing seems to happen, is something happening?<\/i><\/p>\n<p><P>Something happening? I don&#8217;t know. But that state IN ITSELF is something. When the body is conscious of that it means precisely that it has come out of its narrowness &#8211; it is the same Infinite as the one you get when out of the body.<br \/>\n<P>What I do now when X comes is take it all <i>(gesture from below to above) <\/i>and do like this <i>(gesture of offering up), <\/i>in an aspiration &#8211; and then I let it go. Then all the Immobility, the Silence, the Light, the Peace comes down from above into everything and doesn&#8217;t move. But that in itself is &#8230; very difficult for the body to have, very difficult: something is always vibrating and moving.<br \/>\n<P>It&#8217;s as if it put everything back in order, but nothing is moved.<br \/>\n<P>Yesterday, when I was in that immobility, suddenly I felt something obliging me to turn my head. I didn&#8217;t turn my head, but the consciousness turned <i>(gesture to the left), <\/i>and then I saw myself standing there in the corridor (that kind of corridor separating the hall and Sri Aurobindo&#8217;s room) in my usual outdoor dress [Indian shirt and light trousers]. I was standing up very straight and holding a globe of light above my head &#8211; and such a light! It was shining brighter than those strong electric bulbs &#8211; dazzling. My own clothing seemed to be made of golden-pink light. I was standing very straight and carrying this globe <i>(gesture above the head). <\/i>When I saw that I said to myself, &#8216;Now why on earth is he making me see this?&#8217; And that was all. Nothing else happened except that. But near me there was a figure I didn&#8217;t know, and it reminded me of X&#8217;s great guru, [[X&#8217;s deceased guru. See <i>Agenda 1, <\/i>October 4, 1958, pp. 200-201. ]]  whom I had already seen once. There he was by my side, a tall figure, and he seemed to be the one who had tugged at me to make me see that vision.<br \/>\n<P>It was a large globe. Although no distinct rays could be seen, it appeared to be projecting innumerable rays like flashes of lightning. It was sparkling all over.<br \/>\n<P>What does it mean?<br \/>\n<P>Don&#8217;t know. I didn&#8217;t bother much about it. He certainly wanted to make me see it &#8211; but what is it? What does it mean? Don&#8217;t know.<br \/>\n<P>It was the dress I wear when I go out. Why? It must have had a<P align=\"center\"><br \/>\n<font size=\"2\">Page 229<\/font><\/p>\n<hr>\n<p><P>&nbsp;meaning, although I must say I didn&#8217;t exert myself to understand!&nbsp; I simply saw, smiled (it made me smile), and that was all. It was just before the meditation ended.<br \/>\n<P>At any rate, it&#8217;s the fourth day of this same silence <i>(Mother clenches her fists, as if to show a compact mass). <\/i>Not only silence &#8211; immobility <i>(same compact gesture), <\/i>WITHOUT TENSION, without tension, effortless, without anything; like a kind of eternity &#8211; in the body.<br \/>\n<P>I have no trouble getting out of it &#8211; I don&#8217;t get &#8216;out&#8217; of it, to tell the truth; it&#8217;s not like a trance you have to pull out of, it&#8217;s not that. This state seems quite natural to me: I hear the clock chime.<br \/>\n<P><\/p>\n<p><i>(Satprem remarks on the gap between the inner realization of certain yogis like X and their outer behavior, which doesn&#8217;t always seem up to the mark.)<\/i><\/p>\n<p><P><\/p>\n<p><i>I truly have the impression of a kind of abyss between the X I can sense, who attracts me, and the outer man.<\/i><\/p>\n<p><P>I don&#8217;t know the outer X, I have been very careful not to enter into contact with him! But from the first day I sensed a gap.<br \/>\n<P><\/p>\n<p><i>It&#8217;s odd!<\/i><\/p>\n<p><P>No, it&#8217;s the old tradition &#8211; you step back from Nature and Nature does whatever she wants. It doesn&#8217;t concern you, you have no responsibility, &#8216;you are not that.&#8217; It&#8217;s the old idea.<br \/>\n<P>Sri Aurobindo was completely against it. Somewhere he makes fun of a man who said he was the Supreme and that whatever he did, it wasn&#8217;t he himself doing it &#8211; and then he was angry when his meal was late! But of course it wasn&#8217;t him: the stomach-nature was angry! [[See the poem entitled <i>Self (Last Poems, <\/i>Cent. Ed., Vol. V, p. 151). ]]<br \/>\n<P>It&#8217;s one of the most ironic things Sri Aurobindo has written.<br \/>\n<P>I&#8217;ve known that and have always taken great care to avoid it, for it opens<br \/>\nthe door to all deformations.&nbsp; Lele [[The tantric guru Sri Aurobindo met in 1907 and from whom he received mental silence. ]]  was like that &#8211; Lele did<br \/>\n<P align=\"center\"><font size=\"2\">Page 230<\/font><\/p>\n<hr>\n<p><P>the same thing: he behaved like a lout; he said it wasn&#8217;t himself, it was Nature &#8211; he had nothing to do with it. This is all very well, but still there&#8217;s a sort of affinity between your physical comportment and what you are inside, isn&#8217;t there?!<br \/>\n<P>Sri Aurobindo didn&#8217;t accept this tradition at all.<br \/>\n<P>For instance, X is completely caught up in all his family affairs; he said to Amrita, &#8216;In August the girls will go back home to their husbands, the boy will be at college, and I&#8217;ll be able to live tranquilly.&#8217; But there will be something else! There is always something else, naturally!<br \/>\n<P>Anyway, it doesn&#8217;t matter &#8211; I assure you that for the half-hour he is here with me he is splendid.<br \/>\n<P>Oh, he is splendid! There is such a sweet warmth in him, so good, and a mastery (mastery of inner movements, of the vital movement) and the ability to bring into the physical this peace, this absolute immobility. It&#8217;s splendid! I have been doing this for something like forty years and you can&#8217;t imagine how difficult it is, how much effort it takes to achieve it! With him it comes all by itself. That&#8217;s the tantric mastery.<br \/>\n<P>And to a certain extent it has a healing power (to a certain extent). But it&#8217;s not that supramental thing Sri Aurobindo had: he would pass his hand like this <i>(gesture), <\/i>and the disorder would be gone completely!<br \/>\n<P>I have never seen anyone but Sri Aurobindo do that.<br \/>\n<P align=\"center\"><font size=\"2\">Page 231<\/font><span><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>June 20, 1961 (Following a meditation with X.) 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