{"id":6628,"date":"2013-07-13T02:08:47","date_gmt":"2013-07-13T02:08:47","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/localhost\/?p=6628"},"modified":"2013-07-13T02:08:47","modified_gmt":"2013-07-13T02:08:47","slug":"31-april-15-1961-vol-02-volume-02","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/worksofthemotherandsriaurobindo.org\/index.php\/02-works-of-the-mother\/03-agenda\/02-volume-02\/31-april-15-1961-vol-02-volume-02","title":{"rendered":"-31_April 15_1961.htm"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><H3>April 15, 1961<\/H3><br \/>\n<P>I am in a state that is &#8230; how can I put it? &#8230; Non-existent.<br \/>\n<P>Nonexistent because &#8230;.<br \/>\n<P>I would rather say nothing. Let&#8217;s work.<br \/>\n<P align=\"center\">*<br \/>\n<P align=\"center\"><i>(Later, after the work:)<\/i><br \/>\n<P><\/p>\n<p><i>All kinds of things are coming up from the subconscient. We seem to be constantly descending instead of ascending.<\/i><\/p>\n<p><P>Oh, the subconscient! Every night it&#8217;s a real invasion of things that are so &#8230; the WHOLE subconscient keeps coming up, coming up, coming up &#8211; not just mine but everybody&#8217;s. There seems to be no end to it.<br \/>\n<P>But now I have the knack of forgetting &#8211; I just forget. Because when I used to remember, I had to fight for entire days. So as soon as I wake up, I erase it right away: go away! Gone!<br \/>\n<P>But all night long I am fully conscious of a lot of things &#8211; they can&#8217;t be called trivial, but&#8230;. Oh, it&#8217;s as though everything that can comes to tell me: &#8216;You think there will be a supramental transformation? Well then, just look: there is this and that and that and this, this one and that one, this circumstance, that thing, the world, people, things&#8230;.&#8217; Oh, a deluge!<br \/>\n<P align=\"center\"><font size=\"2\">Page165<\/font><\/p>\n<hr>\n<p><P>And in the evening before going to sleep I read the Vedas, which aggravates the situation. Because those people remember &#8211; either they have heard of it, or they remember it themselves &#8211; a supramental realization; and they describe it all so beautifully that it makes you feel very far from it, so very, very far&#8230;.<br \/>\n<P>After that, I spend hours concentrated in prayer &#8211; not exactly &#8216;prayer&#8217; but &#8230; <i>(gesture palms turned upwards), <\/i>like that, beseeching.<br \/>\n<P>What has been achieved now is that I am absolutely detached from EVERYTHING. From everything, beginning with my body and including the work, ideas, conceptions, even the &#8230; [people], all, all of them. It all seems to me so utterly &#8230; dull and nonexistent.<br \/>\n<P>Before, I used to find joy in a beautiful idea or a beautiful experience &#8211; all that is finished. I am in a state where nothing, absolutely nothing has any value except ONE SINGLE THING.<br \/>\n<P align=\"right\"><i>(silence)<\/i><br \/>\n<P>I could say something formidable &#8230; <i>(Mother is about to speak, then restrains herself). <\/i>But it&#8217;s not true, it&#8217;s not like that. If I say it, it will become something else.<br \/>\n<P>It&#8217;s better to say nothing.<br \/>\n<P>But don&#8217;t let that discourage you.<br \/>\n<P><\/p>\n<p><i>Oh, you know, nothing is very encouraging, either!<\/i><\/p>\n<p><P>No, but it&#8217;s obviously indispensable.<br \/>\n<P><\/p>\n<p><i>I feel that I&#8217;ve never been as low as I am now.<\/i><\/p>\n<p><P>Low? No, you aren&#8217;t low &#8211; I see you too, among the things I am looking at, and it isn&#8217;t true. No, you are much better than you were! <i>(Mother laughs)<\/i><br \/>\n<P align=\"right\"><i>(silence)<\/i><br \/>\n<P>But you know, what seems to have gone is all this illusory enthusiasm we confuse with&#8230;. Sri Aurobindo speaks of it very often, and each time I read that sentence of his it&#8217;s like an icy shower <i>(Mother laughs)<\/i>. I no longer know the exact wording, but he uses two words: <i>illusory hopes &#8230; all the human illusory hopes. <\/i><br \/>\nIt goes plunk! Well, all that has entirely gone.&nbsp; When I saw it I<br \/>\n<P align=\"center\"><font size=\"2\">Page 166<\/font><\/p>\n<hr>\n<p><P>deliberately rejected it. &#8216;Yes,&#8217; I said to myself, &#8216;we are always trying to cheer ourselves up with hopes&#8230;.&#8217;<br \/>\n<P><i>(Mother turns towards the tape recorder) <\/i>Don&#8217;t keep all that. It&#8217;s not worth it, don&#8217;t keep it. It&#8217;s quite useless. Take it out.<br \/>\n<P>This is merely a passing phase, that&#8217;s all.<br \/>\n<P align=\"center\">*<br \/>\n<P><i>(Just before leaving)<\/i><br \/>\n<P>If I could remain quiet like this for hours on end, without letters, without &#8230; oh, without seeing people! Would it perhaps go more quickly? &#8230; I don&#8217;t know.<br \/>\n<P><\/p>\n<p><i>Why don&#8217;t you take a break for a while?<\/i><\/p>\n<p><P>I can&#8217;t.<br \/>\n<P><\/p>\n<p><i>Take a real break for some time, and then&#8230;.<\/i><\/p>\n<p><P>It&#8217;s impossible. I can&#8217;t. Even two years ago, when I was really sick and took to my room for the first time, I couldn&#8217;t let the work go. I can&#8217;t do it. It&#8217;s not possible.<br \/>\n<P><\/p>\n<p><i>But surely there are things you could cut down?<\/i><\/p>\n<p><P>Yes, if I could cut down a bit it would help.<br \/>\n<P align=\"right\"><i>(long silence)<\/i><br \/>\n<P>Ah, petit! &#8230; <i>(Mother remains absorbed for a long time.)<\/i><br \/>\n<P>On the 24th, how long will it be? &#8230; Forty-one years since I came here. And I haven&#8217;t moved since.<br \/>\n<P>It&#8217;s really strange: there is no space between that time and now. I don&#8217;t know how to explain it&#8230;. I have no feeling of time, none at all, none.<br \/>\n<P align=\"right\"><i>(long silence)<\/i><br \/>\n<P>I live in the constant feeling of PUSHING against a world of tremendous obstacles, with the certainty that &#8211; suddenly &#8211; the resistance will give way &#8230; and there will be enlightenment &#8211; no, far more than that!<br \/>\n<P align=\"center\"><font size=\"2\">Page 167<\/font><\/p>\n<hr>\n<p><P>That&#8217;s all.<br \/>\n<P>I have become only this <i>(Mother slowly moves her arm forward with clenched fist, as if to show all her force tensed and pushing, inexorably pushing).<\/i><br \/>\n<P align=\"right\"><i>(Mother gets up)<\/i><br \/>\n<P>All night long and whenever my attention is not being drawn away by something or other &#8211; and even then, it&#8217;s there as if behind a veil &#8211; I am nothing but a force that pushes. That&#8217;s what I have become.<br \/>\n<P align=\"right\"><i>(silence)<\/i><br \/>\n<P>Don&#8217;t worry. You definitely haven&#8217;t gotten worse.<br \/>\n<P><\/p>\n<p><i>Oh, I feel we are constantly betraying &#8211; betraying you.<\/i><\/p>\n<p><P>Betraying? Oh &#8230; I also feel that I am betraying myself, so you see! &#8230;<br \/>\n<P>Actually it is because, without knowing it, you are becoming aware of the true Self, and that awareness always produces a sense of betrayal. But it&#8217;s neither &#8216;you&#8217; nor 1&#8242; nor &#8216;he&#8217; nor anything other than THAT which is being betrayed. All that we are is a betrayal of That. This is what it is. And we are constantly pushing, pushing, pushing to go beyond.<br \/>\n<P>It&#8217;s all right. Don&#8217;t worry. When you are a little upset, you only have to think: Oh, Mother is here, and she will do the work.<br \/>\n<P>And don&#8217;t have any more toothaches. I don&#8217;t like you to have toothaches!<br \/>\n<P align=\"right\"><i>(silence)<\/i><br \/>\n<P>Good-bye, petit. 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