{"id":6645,"date":"2013-07-13T02:08:52","date_gmt":"2013-07-13T02:08:52","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/localhost\/?p=6645"},"modified":"2013-07-13T02:08:52","modified_gmt":"2013-07-13T02:08:52","slug":"26-march-25-1961-vol-02-volume-02","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/worksofthemotherandsriaurobindo.org\/index.php\/02-works-of-the-mother\/03-agenda\/02-volume-02\/26-march-25-1961-vol-02-volume-02","title":{"rendered":"-26_March 25_1961.htm"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><P><br \/>\n<H3>March 25, 1961<\/H3><br \/>\n<P align=\"center\"><i>(On the previous day, Satprem had written a letter to Mother complaining of never having any concrete experiences. [[This letter has disappeared. ]]  After a meditation together, this is what Mother replied.)<\/i><br \/>\n<P>It&#8217;s not that you don&#8217;t have experiences! You even have access to regions where people very rarely go; you are capable of receiving light, intuitions, revelations &#8211; but this is probably so normal for you that you don&#8217;t notice it! I came to meditate with you especially to see what was preventing you from being conscious&#8230;. And on your right side, I saw a sort of crystallization &#8230; somewhat as though you were inside a statue.<br \/>\n<P>It seemed made of transparent alabaster &#8211; hard, harder than stone. It was the result of an individualization &#8211; that was my impression &#8211; an individualization that has become very &#8230; hardened. It has tried to become entirely transparent but has no tangible contact with things &#8211; things enter only through the higher regions, through intellectual perceptions (not intellectual, a sort of mental vision). And I began to bang on it!<br \/>\n<P>It was mainly on your right side &#8211; I banged on it. But strangely enough, it<br \/>\ndidn&#8217;t break &#8230; it became supple, but then it lost its beauty. (It was so<br \/>\nbeautiful, as though sculptured!)&nbsp; I tried to pass through it, but to do so (this is what I found interesting), instead of<br \/>\n<P align=\"center\"><font size=\"2\">Page 138<\/font><\/p>\n<hr>\n<p><P>passing through at this level <i>(the chest), <\/i>the psychic plane &#8211; the level of the soul&#8217;s vibration &#8211; I had to climb up above and then descend; and finally, without even realizing it, I found myself inside &#8211; I had entered through sheer force of concentration. There, at the vital level, the emotional vital <i>(solar plexus), I <\/i>put two flowers: one very large Endurance in the Most Material Vital [zinnia] and another flower like the one X just gave me [cosmos] but bigger and pure white (it concerns sexual movements, light in sexual movements). But curiously enough, I passed inside through a trance; I was quite busy trying to make it more fluid when all at once, poof! I found myself inside. But since I entered through a trance it became completely objective: no more thought, nothing. And I saw I had put these two flowers there <i>(at the levels of the abdomen and chest), <\/i>one more active, a very large, dark purple Endurance flower, and another much smaller, pure white, slightly lower down. While I was watching this I think the clock must have struck &#8211; something pulled me and it all faded away.<br \/>\n<P>And I found it interesting that when I received your letter yesterday evening I concentrated for a moment, almost out of curiosity: &#8216;Why doesn&#8217;t he ever feel he has an experience? Why doesn&#8217;t he feel anything?&#8217; I wanted to know precisely what type of experience would give you the feeling of having an experience!<br \/>\n<P><\/p>\n<p><i>If I could receive the Light: if I could SEE this Light; if I could see the vastness opening before my eyes&#8230;.<\/i><\/p>\n<p><P>Then it&#8217;s in the realm of visions, of conscious perception.<br \/>\n<P><\/p>\n<p><i>Yes, conscious perception, vision &#8211; otherwise, nothing ever happens!<\/i><\/p>\n<p><P>I understand! But yesterday when I was concentrating, I seemed to be sitting right in front of you again; and in the same way, with my left side, I was banging, banging on that absolutely rigid thing on your right. I was astonished: &#8216;Why am I banging?&#8217; (I had no intention of banging!) It was strange. The left side isn&#8217;t like that, it&#8217;s the right.<br \/>\n<P>But now I have done some damage!<br \/>\n<P align=\"right\"><i>(silence)<\/i><br \/>\n<P>Strangely enough, I&#8217;ve received the same complaint from S. He says, &#8216;I don&#8217;t have any experiences.&#8217; &#8216;What kind of experience do<P align=\"center\"><br \/>\n<font size=\"2\">Page 139<\/font><\/p>\n<hr>\n<p><P>&nbsp;you have?&#8217;&nbsp; I asked. He replied, &#8216;I sit in meditation and what comes is peace, peace, peace &#8230; it&#8217;s always the same thing!&#8217; (Some people would be very happy with that, but him &#8230;. ) I asked him, &#8216;What experience do you want?&#8217; &#8216;To be conscious,&#8217; he told me, &#8216;to be conscious of the Divine, conscious of the divine Presence!&#8217; And I always answer him, &#8216;It&#8217;s because your mind is barricaded.&#8217; <i>(Mother forms a geometrical figure) <\/i>He is so convinced that he knows! He tells me, &#8216;No! It&#8217;s not that.&#8217; He doesn&#8217;t believe me!<br \/>\n<P>At any rate, I have had no results with him, nor with X.<br \/>\n<P>Several times in my life I have met with the particular phenomenon of having an absolutely exceptional and unique experience and at the same time feeling that a part of my being was unaware of it! I would tell myself, &#8216;if I hadn&#8217;t been both here and there at the same moment <i>(Mother indicates two different levels in her consciousness)<\/i>, I might have had all these experiences and never known it!&#8217; And this happened not just once but many times. Some were utterly unique, like certain ancient Vedic experiences &#8211; utterly unique. When I recounted them to Sri Aurobindo, he told me, &#8216;Oh, it&#8217;s extremely rare! Some people try all their lives to attain that.&#8217; And it happened to me not just once but often: the experience took place there <i>(gesture above) <\/i>and something up there knew, and yet there was something down here that would never have known if the other hadn&#8217;t <i>(same gesture). <\/i>Nevertheless &#8230; the total experience was there.<br \/>\n<P>It&#8217;s very difficult to explain, it&#8217;s extremely subtle.<br \/>\n<P>But it made me think that something like this must be happening with people here. Because, not to boast, but I do give you people experiences!<br \/>\n<P>Of course, all of you would be perfectly justified in replying, &#8216;What good does that do if we&#8217;re not aware of it!&#8217; But it must be a phenomenon like the one I described. I am looking for the reason &#8230; something &#8230; <i>which refuses the knowledge. <\/i>A part of the being is refusing &#8211; although not consciously &#8211; to become aware of the experience.<br \/>\n<P><\/p>\n<p><i>Can I do something practical about it?<\/i><\/p>\n<p><P>It&#8217;s rather&#8230;. It may be something more in the line of childlike candor, childlike simplicity and candor &#8211; where there is now a very intellectualized consciousness.<br \/>\n<P>It is something very much on its guard, that doesn&#8217;t want to be duped or be a<br \/>\nvictim of imagination.<br \/>\n<P align=\"center\"><font size=\"2\">Page 140<\/font><\/p>\n<hr>\n<p><P>A sort of childlike candor is lacking somewhere.<br \/>\n<P align=\"center\"><font size=\"2\">Page 141<\/font><\/p>\n<p><p align=\"right\" style=\"margin-top: 0;margin-bottom: 0\"><b><a href=\"\/index.php\/02-works-of-the-mother\/03-agenda\/02-volume-02\/00-Contents-Vol-02-volume-02\"><br \/>\n<span><\/a><\/b><\/p>\n<p align=\"right\" style=\"margin-top: 0;margin-bottom: 0\">\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>March 25, 1961 (On the previous day, Satprem had written a letter to Mother complaining of never having any concrete experiences. 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