{"id":6677,"date":"2013-07-13T02:09:03","date_gmt":"2013-07-13T02:09:03","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/localhost\/?p=6677"},"modified":"2013-07-13T02:09:03","modified_gmt":"2013-07-13T02:09:03","slug":"092-october-13-1971-vol-12-volume-12","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/worksofthemotherandsriaurobindo.org\/index.php\/02-works-of-the-mother\/03-agenda\/12-volume-12\/092-october-13-1971-vol-12-volume-12","title":{"rendered":"-092_October 13_1971.htm"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><H3>October 13, 1971<\/H3><br \/>\n<P align=\"center\"><i>(Mother hands Satprem an unusual<\/i><P align=\"center\"><i>&nbsp;&#8220;transformation&#8221;[[Indian Cork Tree. ]] flower.)<\/i><br \/>\n<P>Nine petals&#8230;. That&#8217;s the new creation &#8212; it&#8217;s the transformation for the new creation.<\/p>\n<p><i>I see!<\/i><\/p>\n<p><P>So what have you brought?<\/p>\n<p><i>Oh, nothing much&#8230;. I&#8217;m a little overwhelmed by all the<\/i><\/p>\n<p><i>&nbsp;material<br \/>\n  problems.<\/i><\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><P>Oh! Yes&#8230;. You have nothing to ask, nothing to say?<\/p>\n<p><i>And what do you have to say, Mother?<\/i><\/p>\n<p><P>Me?&#8230;<br \/>\n<P align=\"right\"><i>(Mother goes within for a half hour)<\/i><\/p>\n<p><i>You&#8217;re not saying anything.<\/i><\/p>\n<p align=\"center\"><font size=\"2\">Page 260<\/font><\/p>\n<hr>\n<p><P>No. Nothing to say.<\/p>\n<p><i>Are we getting near something?<\/i><\/p>\n<p><P align=\"right\"><i>(after a silence)<\/i><br \/>\n<P>Do you know the story of the new moon?&#8230; They&#8217;ve discovered a new moon. [[Called Toro. Although it orbits the sun in an 8-year cycle, it approaches to within some 12 million miles of the earth. Its next approach to the earth is due in August 1972. ]]<\/p>\n<p><i>Oh, yes, a very small one. Does it mean something?<\/i><\/p>\n<p><P>They say it is the supramental creation!<\/p>\n<p><i>What!<\/i><\/p>\n<p><P>And that it is approaching the earth.<\/p>\n<p><i>And then?<\/i><\/p>\n<p><P>Well, it may fall on it!&#8230; What do they mean, very small? Smaller than the earth?<\/p>\n<p><i>Yes, I think it&#8217;s a mile in diameter.<\/i><\/p>\n<p><P>That&#8217;s very small!<\/p>\n<p><i>It seems it approaches the earth every 8 years&#8230;. But what<\/i><\/p>\n<p><i>&nbsp;does that have to do with the supermind!<\/i><\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><P>I don&#8217;t know! <i>(Mother laughs) <\/i>I have no idea myself&#8230;. A mile, but then it could fall somewhere&#8230;.<\/p>\n<p><i>Yes, it would make a dent!&#8230; Sometimes one really gets the<\/i><\/p>\n<p><i>&nbsp;feeling<br \/>\n  that all this needs to be shaken up a little, don&#8217;t you<\/i><\/p>\n<p><i>&nbsp;think?<\/i><\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><P align=\"right\"><i>(Mother makes a gesture of not knowing)<\/i><\/p>\n<p><i>Aren&#8217;t you in favor of &#8220;shaking up&#8221;?<\/i><\/p>\n<p align=\"center\">\n  <font size=\"2\">Page<br \/>\n  261<\/font><\/p>\n<hr>\n<p><P><i>(Same gesture with a smile) <\/i>When I was told that, I had the impression it would become part of the earth&#8230;. But it would cause a disaster, wouldn&#8217;t it?<\/p>\n<p><i>Perhaps not extensive? It would certainly create enough of an upheaval.<\/i><\/p>\n<p><P>Unless it chooses the north pole or&#8230;.<\/p>\n<p><i>Would that make things on earth better?&#8230;<\/i><\/p>\n<p><P align=\"right\"><i>(negative gesture)<\/i><\/p>\n<p><i>You are not very much in favor of shaking things up, are you?<\/i><\/p>\n<p><P align=\"right\"><i>(same gesture<\/i><br \/>\n<P align=\"right\"><i>silence)<\/i><br \/>\n<P>I have more and more the impression that we know nothing, that we can do nothing, that we&#8230;. We&#8217;re really &#8230; <i>(helpless gesture)<\/i> &#8212; we know nothing. All our so-called knowledge is&#8230;.<br \/>\n<P>We don&#8217;t even know our own destiny.<\/p>\n<p><i>Yes!<\/i><\/p>\n<p><P>It&#8217;s pathetic.<br \/>\n<P align=\"right\"><i>(silence)<\/i><\/p>\n<p><i>And materially, in the material life, you feel you are entangled<\/i><\/p>\n<p><i>&nbsp;in<br \/>\n  something in which every solution is false.<\/i><\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><P>Yes, yes, that&#8217;s exactly it.<\/p>\n<p><i>So you don&#8217;t know what to do. In practical life, you don&#8217;t<\/i><\/p>\n<p><i>&nbsp;know<br \/>\n  what to do&#8230;. You can turn in every direction and in<\/i><\/p>\n<p><i>&nbsp;every direction it&#8217;s false.<\/i><\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><P>Yes, it&#8217;s false.<\/p>\n<p><i>So those who want to live authentically, what should they do <\/i><\/p>\n<p><i>in a practical way? We are in this world of falseness &#8212; it&#8217;s in us<\/i><\/p>\n<p><i>&nbsp;and around us &#8212; and if we try to intervene in circumstances to<\/i><\/p>\n<p align=\"center\"><font size=\"2\">Page 262<\/font><\/p>\n<hr>\n<p><i>&nbsp;correct them, we get even more entangled in the knot. Should<\/i><\/p>\n<p><i>&nbsp;one simply withdraw and leave things as they are?<\/i><br \/>\n<\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><P>This is what I do more and more <i>(gesture of interiorization).<\/i> I speak less and less, because everything one says is false.<br \/>\n<P align=\"right\"><i>(silence)<\/i><br \/>\n<P>For instance, I say &#8220;the Divine&#8221; &#8212; what is the Divine? I don&#8217;t know &#8212; and yet I can&#8217;t say that I don&#8217;t know. And even saying that is false &#8212; that&#8217;s not it. Everything is NOT IT. It isn&#8217;t it.<br \/>\n<P>Even material life is like that. Take eating, for example, depending on a certain attitude (is it an attitude? I don&#8217;t know, because the consciousness is the same), the SAME food can be either absolutely detestable and impossible to swallow, or quite good&#8230;. The material circumstances themselves, the SAME circumstances can have very negative and serious consequences, or totally positive ones, depending on&#8230;. What does it depend on? That&#8217;s the point. Because the consciousness is apparently the same, you simply don&#8217;t know what causes the change&#8230;. In other words, the whole material life is &#8230; unreal. You were talking of fighting, but fighting what? Everything is a mirage. We don&#8217;t know what it is, we don&#8217;t know WHAT there really is. What does it depend on?<br \/>\n<P>There is something to discover.<br \/>\n<P>Sometimes the body is seized by an unbearable pain, so painful it wants to scream &#8212; and a minute later, everything is perfectly fine. And the physical conditions are the SAME, the consciousness is the SAME&#8230;. 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