{"id":6686,"date":"2013-07-13T02:09:06","date_gmt":"2013-07-13T02:09:06","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/localhost\/?p=6686"},"modified":"2013-07-13T02:09:06","modified_gmt":"2013-07-13T02:09:06","slug":"079-august-28-1971-vol-12-volume-12","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/worksofthemotherandsriaurobindo.org\/index.php\/02-works-of-the-mother\/03-agenda\/12-volume-12\/079-august-28-1971-vol-12-volume-12","title":{"rendered":"-079_August 28_1971.htm"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><H3>August 28, 1971<\/H3><br \/>\n<P>Well, what&#8217;s new?<br \/>\n<P>&#8230;<br \/>\n<P>What do you want or have to tell me?&#8230; Nothing?<\/p>\n<p><i>Nothing, or always the same thing, rather.<\/i><\/p>\n<p><P>What&#8217;s that?<\/p>\n<p><i>I&#8217;m waiting.<\/i><\/p>\n<p><P>Oh, you&#8217;re waiting! So am I! <i>(laughter)<\/i><br \/>\n<P align=\"right\"><i>(silence)<\/i><br \/>\n<P>It&#8217;s as if all the ways of seeing the world were passing by one after the other: the most detestable and the most marvelous &#8212; like this, like that, like this &#8230; <i>(Mother turns her head like a kaleidoscope), <\/i>and they all come to tell me: &#8220;See, you can look at it this way, you can look at it that way, you can&#8230;.&#8221; But the Truth &#8230; what is true?&#8230; What is true?&#8230; There is all that <i>(same kaleidoscopic gesture), <\/i>and &#8220;something&#8221; we don&#8217;t know.<br \/>\n<P>First of all, I am convinced that the need to see things, to think them, is purely human and is a transitory device. It is a transitory phase, which seems terribly long to us, but in fact is rather short.<br \/>\n<P align=\"center\"><font size=\"2\">Page 225<\/font><\/p>\n<hr>\n<p><P>Even our consciousness is an adaptation of the Consciousness &#8212; THE Consciousness, the true consciousness is something else.<br \/>\n<P>And so the conclusion for my body is &#8230; (as best as I can translate it): to curl up in the Divine. Not to try to understand, not to try to know: try TO BE&#8230;. And to curl up. So I spend my time like that.<br \/>\n<P>Not &#8220;try&#8221;: only one minute like that is enough <i>(gesture of stepping backward), <\/i>and time doesn&#8217;t matter anymore. It&#8217;s very curious, I make experiments for every little movement of life, like meals, for example; well, when I curl up like this <i>(gesture of interiorization), <\/i>everything seems instantaneous. There isn&#8217;t any time. When I am in the outer consciousness (what I call outer is a consciousness that witnesses the creation), then things take more or less time depending on the attention given it. And so everything, everything seems &#8230; nothing seems to be (what&#8217;s the word?) absolute, in the sense of real &#8212; real, a concrete reality &#8212; nothing seems to be like that. Except unpleasant things in the body such as, for example, some functioning that goes wrong; that, you recognize as imperfection. The imperfection is what makes you feel the thing, otherwise it&#8217;s like this <i>(same gesture of interiorization, curled up in the Lord). <\/i>And &#8220;like this,&#8221; the Power is tremendous, in the sense that &#8230; for instance, for some people, a particular illness vanishes (without my doing anything outwardly in fact, without my even speaking to anyone, absolutely nothing &#8212; it&#8217;s cured); for still another person &#8230; it&#8217;s the end, he goes over to the other side. But then that other side has become both quite familiar to me and &#8230; totally unknown.<br \/>\n<P>I remember a time when the memory of past lives, the memory of night activities was so very concrete; the so-called invisible world was totally concrete &#8212; now &#8230; now everything is like a dream &#8212; everything &#8212; everything is like a dream veiling a Reality &#8230; an unknown Reality, and yet appreciable. I seem to be talking nonsense.<\/p>\n<p><i>No, no, not at all!<\/i><\/p>\n<p><P>Because it can&#8217;t be expressed.<br \/>\n<P>You asked me the other day (your question has stayed with me), you asked me: when I am silent and motionless like this, what is happening?&#8230; In point of fact it&#8217;s an attempt (I can&#8217;t say an aspiration, I can&#8217;t say effort &#8212; the word in English is <i>urge<\/i>): the truth as it is. That&#8217;s it. That&#8217;s it. Not trying to know or understand it (it is<P align=\"center\"><br \/>\n<font size=\"2\">Page 226<\/font><\/p>\n<hr>\n<p><P>&nbsp;all one to me): to be &#8212; to be &#8212; to be&#8230;. And then&#8230;. <i>(Mother has a smile full of sweetness.)<\/i><br \/>\n<P align=\"right\"><i>(silence)<\/i><br \/>\n<P>Then curiously enough: at the same time &#8212; at the same time &#8212; not one in the other or one with the other, but one AND the other, at the same time <i>(Mother slips the fingers of her right hand between the fingers of her left) <\/i>it&#8217;s marvelous and dreadful. Life as it is, as we feel it in our ordinary consciousness &#8212; as it is for men &#8212; seems something &#8230; but so dreadful that one wonders how it can be lived even a single minute; and the other, AT THE SAME TIME: a marvel. A marvel of light, consciousness, power &#8212; wondrous. And a power, a power!&#8230; And not the power of a particular person <i>(Mother pinches the skin of her hands), <\/i>it&#8217;s something &#8230; it&#8217;s something which is everything&#8230;. And you are left without words.<br \/>\n<P>So, quite naturally, the most interesting thing is to find That. Quite naturally, whenever I have nothing to do &#8230; <i>(gesture of interiorization, curled up in the Lord). <\/i>That&#8217;s why I am forever asking you if you have questions or something, because there is no longer any &#8220;person&#8221; to be active, it&#8217;s only the things which &#8230; <i>(gesture indicating the movements and vibrations of people or things triggering Mother&#8217;s activity). <\/i>So when that&#8217;s not there, it&#8217;s &#8230; <i>(gesture in suspense, silence)&#8230;. <\/i>Very far, far off &#8230; quite close, quite close to the other Consciousness, there are moments <i>(Mother speaks in a deep, solemn voice)<\/i>: OM Namo Bhagavateh&#8230;. That&#8217;s the most material thing. It&#8217;s already &#8230; it seems so &#8230; <i>lifeless. <\/i>It gives the impression that a piece of wood might give us. And yet it&#8217;s&#8230;. So at one and the same time one can be in a painful and incomprehensible and absurd life and absolutely at the same time &#8230; unutterably marvelous.<br \/>\n<P>So naturally I can&#8217;t speak to anyone anymore, I can say it only to you, because people would think I am going nuts.<br \/>\n<P align=\"right\"><i>(long silence)<\/i><br \/>\n<P>Only &#8220;You&#8221; &#8212; that&#8217;s all.<br \/>\n<P>And quite plainly the Creation has That as its goal, that marvelous joy &#8230; of feeling we are You.<br \/>\n<P align=\"right\"><i>(Mother goes off in a smile)<\/i><br \/>\n<P>So&#8230;. So what do you want? Do you want That?<br \/>\n<P align=\"center\"><font size=\"2\">Page 227<\/font><\/p>\n<hr>\n<p><i>Yes, Mother.<\/i><\/p>\n<p><P>Or do you want to ask me questions?<\/p>\n<p><i>No, no, That is good!<\/i><\/p>\n<p><P align=\"right\"><i>(Mother laughs)<\/i><br \/>\n<P align=\"center\"><i>(Mother takes Satprem&#8217;s hands.<br \/>sits with her eyes closed,<br \/>then a smile spreads over her lips,<br \/>she goes within.)<\/i><br \/>\n<P align=\"center\"><font size=\"2\">Page 228<\/font><\/p>\n<hr>\n<p><P><i><br \/>\n<H3 align=\"center\">September<\/i><\/H3><\/p>\n<p><\/b><\/p>\n<p style=\"margin-top: 0;margin-bottom: 0\" align=\"right\">&nbsp;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>August 28, 1971 Well, what&#8217;s new? &#8230; What do you want or have to tell me?&#8230; Nothing? Nothing, or always the same thing, rather. 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