{"id":6689,"date":"2013-07-13T02:09:07","date_gmt":"2013-07-13T02:09:07","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/localhost\/?p=6689"},"modified":"2013-07-13T02:09:07","modified_gmt":"2013-07-13T02:09:07","slug":"077-august-21-1971-vol-12-volume-12","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/worksofthemotherandsriaurobindo.org\/index.php\/02-works-of-the-mother\/03-agenda\/12-volume-12\/077-august-21-1971-vol-12-volume-12","title":{"rendered":"-077_August 21_1971.htm"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><P><br \/>\n<H3>August 21, 1971<\/H3><br \/>\n<P>Do you have something to ask?<\/p>\n<p><i>I am wondering a lot what would have power over the<\/i><\/p>\n<p><i>&nbsp;physical<br \/>\n  mind.<\/i><\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><P>How do you mean?<\/p>\n<p><i>For instance, you set the mantra going and it repeats itself for<\/i><\/p>\n<p><i>&nbsp;a<br \/>\n  certain time, and then whoosh! it goes off on a tangent and<\/i><\/p>\n<p><i>&nbsp;you get going on something else. I can&#8217;t make it steady. Or else<\/i><\/p>\n<p><i>&nbsp;I have to re-start the movement mentally, by force. By applying<\/i><\/p>\n<p><i>&nbsp;the mind.<\/i><\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><P align=\"right\"><i>(after a silence)<\/i><br \/>\n<P>I don&#8217;t know, for me it comes spontaneously. At times it&#8217;s very intense, very much in the forefront (depending very much on circumstances or the people present); at times it&#8217;s &#8230; like something very vast &#8212; very vast &#8212; and very tranquil <i>(Mother extends her arms in a great Rhythm). <\/i>When that is there &#8230; circumstances aren&#8217;t important, people aren&#8217;t important, everything is &#8230; all is calmly divine. At times it becomes powerful and active: that depends on the people, on circumstances, or on something that is happening somewhere which I come to know later.<br \/>\n<P>I don&#8217;t know, I can&#8217;t say&#8230;. The Divine seems to be closely &#8220;associated&#8221; with all, all, with the whole sense of the physical world, so much so that it seems the physical would have no foundation, no continuity if it weren&#8217;t so. So I am unable to say.<\/p>\n<p><i>Actually, I can&#8217;t make out the state I am in. I simply feel in expectation of something.<\/i><\/p>\n<p><P><i>(Mother nods vigorously) <\/i>Ah, of that I am sure!<br \/>\n<P align=\"right\"><i>(silence)<\/i><br \/>\n<P>Now I am having some activities at night, completely new as I have never had before, extremely concrete and in which living<P align=\"center\"><br \/>\n<font size=\"2\">Page 220<\/font><\/p>\n<hr>\n<p><P>&nbsp;people are mingled with those we call dead &#8212; and they are the SAME, they are the same there. [[Mother means that there is no difference between the &#8220;living&#8221; and the &#8220;dead.&#8221; ]] For example, last night there was a very long activity with many people, and among those people was Purani (I see him very often); Purani had a major role, and M. and &#8230; (what&#8217;s his name?) D. &#8212; D. and M. were quarreling! [[Purani died in December 1965; M. and D. are &#8220;living.&#8221; ]] <i>(laughter) <\/i>And one thing after another&#8230;. And I was like one of them, wearing strange clothes.<br \/>\n<P>I am discovering a world I didn&#8217;t know, which is the world &#8230; I wonder if it&#8217;s not the vital physical? There were dances, movements&#8230;. That is, to put it in ordinary words: I have dreams such as I have never had before; only it&#8217;s not dreams, it&#8217;s an activity. It&#8217;s a world I was totally unaware of, and which is like this <i>(Mother interlaces her fingers to show a sort of interpenetration of the physical and that world).<\/i><br \/>\n<P>There are so many, so many things to learn.<\/p>\n<p><i>Yes!<\/i><\/p>\n<p><P align=\"right\"><i>(silence)<\/i><br \/>\n<P>Only those with a physical body have the kind of reactions &#8212; pleasure, displeasure &#8212; we have in physical life. The others no longer have it. That seems to disappear with the purely physical consciousness.<br \/>\n<P align=\"right\"><i>(silence)<\/i><br \/>\n<P>More and more I get the feeling we know nothing. That&#8217;s all. That there is an infinite variety of things, and we know nothing.<\/p>\n<p><i>Personally, I often complain about my nights because, starting <\/i><\/p>\n<p><i>at two or three o&#8217;clock in the morning, I get the feeling I have a<\/i><\/p>\n<p><i>&nbsp;lot of activities which seem completely stupid to me, involving<\/i><\/p>\n<p><i>&nbsp;all sorts of things and people and&#8230;.<\/i><\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><P>That&#8217;s right.<\/p>\n<p><i>And it seems stupid to me, you know, devoid of any meaning,<\/i><\/p>\n<p><i>&nbsp;and<br \/>\n  tiring moreover. What is it? I haven&#8217;t the faintest idea.<\/i><\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><P>Perhaps it&#8217;s that. Perhaps that same world.<br \/>\n<P align=\"center\"><font size=\"2\">Page 221<\/font><\/p>\n<hr>\n<p><i>But what&#8217;s one doing there!<\/i><\/p>\n<p><P align=\"right\"><i>(silence)<\/i><br \/>\n<P>For our physical consciousness it&#8217;s stupid, of course. [[But for someone on the other side, how would a man turning on a faucet and brushing his teeth look? ]]<\/p>\n<p><i>Yes, it looks stupid.<\/i><\/p>\n<p><P>That&#8217;s just what I had last night. And it was quite natural and &#8230; without reaction. [[Pleasure, displeasure. ]]<br \/>\n<P>I think it&#8217;s the mind that gives meaning to things; without the mind, things ARE, without their being given a meaning &#8212; they are because they are. So then for us, for the consciousness as it has evolved here, it is perfectly idiotic. While there it seems perfectly natural.<br \/>\n<P>That must be what makes people become &#8220;unhinged.&#8221; If they don&#8217;t have inside what we could call the &#8220;divine support,&#8221; a kind of unshakable faith in the Truth and divine Grace, if they don&#8217;t have that&#8230;.<br \/>\n<P align=\"right\"><i>(Mother remains absorbed until the end)<\/i><br \/>\n<P>It&#8217;s a phase we have to go through. We have to &#8230; <i>go through <\/i>it.<P align=\"center\"><br \/>\n<font size=\"2\">Page 222<\/font><\/p>\n<p><\/b><\/p>\n<p style=\"margin-top: 0;margin-bottom: 0\" align=\"right\">&nbsp;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>August 21, 1971 Do you have something to ask? I am wondering a lot what would have power over the &nbsp;physical mind. 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