{"id":6770,"date":"2013-07-13T02:09:32","date_gmt":"2013-07-13T02:09:32","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/localhost\/?p=6770"},"modified":"2013-07-13T02:09:32","modified_gmt":"2013-07-13T02:09:32","slug":"43-june-4-1969-vol-10-volume-10","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/worksofthemotherandsriaurobindo.org\/index.php\/02-works-of-the-mother\/03-agenda\/10-volume-10\/43-june-4-1969-vol-10-volume-10","title":{"rendered":"-43_June 4_1969.htm"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><H3>June 4, 1969<\/H3><br \/>\n<P><\/p>\n<p><i>There&#8217;s a letter from PL. He writes:<\/i><\/p>\n<p><P><\/p>\n<p><i>&quot; &#8230; My work is the same, there are difficulties in accepting<\/i><\/p>\n<p><i>&nbsp;my ideas. I am regarded as a &#8216;crank&#8217; (I think so, though no<\/i><\/p>\n<p><i>&nbsp;one has talked to me about it, for there is a force protecting<\/i><\/p>\n<p><i>&nbsp;me). Yet, things at the Vatican, at the center of the Church,<\/i><\/p>\n<p><i>&nbsp;are changing. The struggle of the new forces against the tra<\/i><\/p>\n<p><i>ditional ones is now very strong. If the Pope accepts (his<\/i><\/p>\n<p><i>&nbsp;entourage is against it) to go to Geneva on June 10 and take<\/i><\/p>\n<p><i>&nbsp;part in the Assembly of Protestant Churches, and asserts<\/i><\/p>\n<p><i>&nbsp;there that we are not &#8216;the only ones to possess the truth,&#8217; I<\/i><\/p>\n<p><i>&nbsp;believe that will be a great step forward. But will he have the<\/i><\/p>\n<p><i>&nbsp;courage to accept that other religious movements too are  <\/i><\/p>\n<p><i>seeking? Or will he remain rooted in the assertion that &#8216;extra<\/i><\/p>\n<p><i>&nbsp;ecclesia non est salus,&#8217; [[&quot;No salvation outside the Church.&quot; ]]<br \/>\n  that the only depository of the Truth,<\/i><\/p>\n<p><i>&nbsp;the exclusive owner (!) of salvation is the Catholic Church? &#8230; <\/i>\n  <\/p>\n<p><i>For the time being, I am on the list of those accompanying<\/i><\/p>\n<p><i>him. Mother&#8217;s assistance will have to be strong on that<\/i><\/p>\n<p><i>&nbsp;day &#8230;&quot;<\/i><\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><P align=\"right\"><i>(after a silence)<\/i><br \/>\n<P>Religions are an old thing &#8230;. Don&#8217;t you have that sensation?<br \/>\n<P><\/p>\n<p><i>Oh, absolutely.<\/i><\/p>\n<p><P>Old, very old.<br \/>\n<P><\/p>\n<p><i>I even feel they&#8217;re finished.<\/i><\/p>\n<p><P>Yes.<br \/>\n<P align=\"right\"><i>(silence)<\/i><br \/>\n<P><\/p>\n<p><i>My impression is that the next Church to be demolished is the Intellect.<\/i><\/p>\n<p><P>(Mother laughs) Yes!<br \/>\n<P align=\"center\"><font size=\"2\">Page 213<\/font><\/p>\n<hr>\n<p><P align=\"right\"><i>(Mother goes into<\/i><P align=\"right\"><i>&nbsp;a contemplation)<\/i><br \/>\n<P align=\"center\"><\/p>\n<p><p align=\"center\">***<\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><P align=\"center\"><\/p>\n<p><i>(Soon afterwards, Satprem proposes to publish in<br \/>\n  &quot;Notes on<\/i><\/p>\n<p><i>&nbsp;the Way&quot; the text of the last conversation, of May<br \/>\n  31,<\/i><\/p>\n<p><i>&nbsp;about the glorified body &quot;Visible to all.&quot;)<\/i><\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><P>Aren&#8217;t people going to believe that we&#8217;ve gone mad)?! No?<br \/>\n<P>You think we can publish that? &#8230;<br \/>\n<P><\/p>\n<p><i>I feel we can.<\/i><\/p>\n<p><P>You might ask Nolini? As for me &#8230;<br \/>\n<P align=\"right\"><i>(silence)<\/i><br \/>\n<P>After you left [last time], I looked a good deal, the whole day long &#8230;. There is the sense that it [the glorified body] would be a wonderful solution. When you said it, something all of a sudden became concrete. [[As a matter of fact, at the end of the previous conversation, Mother remained &quot;gazing&quot; for a very long time with an expression that had to be seen to be believed, and Satprem felt something like a cataract of luminous power coming down.  ]]  But with no personal sense in it &#8230;. The body doesn&#8217;t in the least, in the least, have either the ambition or the desire or even the aspiration to become that [the glorified body], but there was only a sort of joy at the possibility that &quot;that&quot; may be &#8211; that THAT MAY BE &#8211; with anyone, anywhere, anyhow: that that may be. And I looked very, very attentively: not for a minute did it have the idea, &quot;It should be this&quot; (Mother pinches the skin of her hand), you understand? It was, &quot;May that incarnation, that manifestation BE&quot; &#8211; not with the choice of one person or another, one place or another, no, none of that was there: it was the THING IN ITSELF which was a wonderful solution. And that&#8217;s all.<br \/>\n<P>Then the consciousness started observing: if there is nothing in this body<br \/>\neven &quot;aspiring&quot; to be that, it shows that&#8217;s not its work. Then came this<br \/>\nextraordinary Smile (I don&#8217;t know how to explain), like that, which passed by<br \/>\nand said &#8230; (to put it in a quite childish manner), &quot;That&#8217;s not your business!&quot;<br \/>\nAnd that&#8217;s all. And it was over, I didn&#8217;t concern myself with it anymore. &quot;Not<br \/>\nyour business,&quot; in the sense, &quot;It&#8217;s none of your concern; whether it&#8217;s like this<br \/>\nor like that, it&#8217;s not your business.&quot; That&#8217;s all.<P align=\"center\"><br \/>\n<font size=\"2\">Page 214<\/font><\/p>\n<hr>\n<p><P>But what has become its business, in such an intense, intense manner that it&#8217;s almost inexpressible, is &quot;You, You, You, You that no word can express: the Divine, to use a word. That&#8217;s all. For everything: eating &#8211; the Divine; sleeping &#8211; the Divine; suffering &#8211; the Divine &#8230; like this (Mother turns her two hands upward). With a sort of steadiness, of stillness &#8211; there is a great unification in the cells.<br \/>\n<P align=\"right\"><i>(silence)<\/i><br \/>\n<P>This Consciousness &#8230; for instance if someone writes and puts a question to me, through this Consciousness I instantly get the answer; and when I write it down, it&#8217;s this Consciousness that speaks. These last few days I have written a number of answers, and all of them so far AHEAD of all that has been said up till now &#8230; The answers are so far ahead of the state of consciousness of the people who put a question that &#8230; And that happens spontaneously, effortlessly, just like that (Mother lets her pen flow).<br \/>\n<P align=\"right\"><i>(silence)<\/i><br \/>\n<P>Its sense of an individual, that is, separate existence would appear to be closely, indissolubly linked to suffering (I am talking about physical suffering, nothing moral &#8211; physical suffering). So then, if the body has one aspiration, that is to melt &#8230; to melt not into the whole, but to melt into &#8230; into the something we call the Divine, and which is everything &#8211; the true whole instead of the false whole. But I can&#8217;t explain.<br \/>\n<P>The body clearly mustn&#8217;t be preoccupied with anything; it mustn&#8217;t be preoccupied with anything, neither this way nor that, neither with progress nor with dissolution &#8211; not preoccupied with anything. The state (not the state it aspires to, it&#8217;s not that, because it doesn&#8217;t have any &quot;aspiration&quot;), the state that seems to be &#8230; willed for it (I don&#8217;t know how to explain) is &#8211; peace, a receptive peace, that&#8217;s all.<br \/>\n<P align=\"right\"><i>(long silence)<\/i><br \/>\n<P>Can&#8217;t speak, words are idiotic.<br \/>\n<P align=\"center\"><font size=\"2\">Page 215<\/font><P align=\"center\">&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><\/b><\/p>\n<p style=\"margin-top: 0;margin-bottom: 0\" align=\"right\">\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>June 4, 1969 There&#8217;s a letter from PL. He writes: &quot; &#8230; My work is the same, there are difficulties in accepting &nbsp;my ideas. 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