{"id":6773,"date":"2013-07-13T02:09:34","date_gmt":"2013-07-13T02:09:34","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/localhost\/?p=6773"},"modified":"2013-07-13T02:09:34","modified_gmt":"2013-07-13T02:09:34","slug":"94-december-24-1969-vol-10-volume-10","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/worksofthemotherandsriaurobindo.org\/index.php\/02-works-of-the-mother\/03-agenda\/10-volume-10\/94-december-24-1969-vol-10-volume-10","title":{"rendered":"-94_December 24_1969.htm"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><H3>December 24, 1969<\/H3><br \/>\n<P><\/p>\n<p><i>Sujata has discovered the photo of A.R.&#8217;s guru. Here it is.<\/i><\/p>\n<p><P>(Mother looks at the photo) What does he wear on his head?<br \/>\n<P><\/p>\n<p><i>He has his &quot;jata,&quot; [[Jata: twisted hair coiled in a heap at the top of the head. ]]  and a sort of plume or peacock feather in his hair.<\/i><\/p>\n<p><P>(Laughing) He looks like a good man. He must be a simple man.<br \/>\n<P><\/p>\n<p><i>He&#8217;s seventy-eight, and his mission is to keep wandering about India, giving initiation to whoever wants it. His method is very simple, he says one just has to repeat the divine Name: &quot;Hare Krishna, Hare Rama, Hare Krishna &#8230;&quot; It&#8217;s enough to purify.<\/i><\/p>\n<p><P>Hare Krishna? &#8230; He does look like a good man!<br \/>\n<P><\/p>\n<p><i>Yes, he looks nice.<\/i><\/p>\n<p><P>Yoga for simple souls! It&#8217;s good, I am happy with A.R.&#8217;s choice. Yes, he&#8217;s a good man &#8230;. A.R. must be feeling a sort of warmth (gesture to the heart), and he&#8217;s happy. (Laughing) We&#8217;re too high up for him!<br \/>\n<P align=\"center\"><\/p>\n<p><p align=\"center\">***<\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><P align=\"center\"><\/p>\n<p><p align=\"center\"><i>(Mother gives her message for Christmas)<\/i><\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><P><\/p>\n<p>Greetings to the new Light.<br \/>Let it grow in all hearts.<\/p>\n<p><P align=\"center\"><\/p>\n<p><p align=\"center\">***<\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><P><i>Soon afterwards<\/i><br \/>\n<P>In his Aphorisms, Sri Aurobindo used the word God everywhere, which we translated as Dieu [&quot;God&quot; in French] &#8230;.<br \/>\n<P>And the word<P align=\"center\"><font size=\"2\">Page 484<\/font><\/p>\n<hr>\n<p><P>&nbsp;Dieu now evokes unacceptable things in people&#8217;s minds. So I am embarrassed. Even Divin, you see &#8230; In English, Divine is fine because it&#8217;s not God (!) But in French, Divin sounds like Dieu! Yet it&#8217;s the only word, because otherwise, &quot;truth&quot; is partial, &quot;consciousness&quot; is partial, and anything we may use is partial.<br \/>\n<P>Yesterday I got a line from M.H. (quite polite, besides) asking me why marriage, which was forbidden in the Ashram, is now permitted since people are marrying and having children &#8230;. That must be some gossip, or else he saw some of the pregnant women in Auroville. But I sent him my explanation; I told him that if it were true that marriage is now permitted and children are born here, I would simply say, &quot;It&#8217;s because the Divine so willed it.&quot; (Which is a way of telling him that it&#8217;s a very ordinary consciousness that asks that question.) But then, when I wrote, I put the word &quot;Divine&quot; because I didn&#8217;t know what else to put &#8230;. Afterwards, I told him how things are, that they&#8217;re not at all that way, but that in Auroville people have children; in my reply I even wrote that Auroville&#8217;s maternity home had been created for all those who want their child to be a world citizen! (Laughing) And there are lots of them!<br \/>\n<P>But at the time of writing &quot;the Divine&quot; &#8230; What&#8217;s to be done? What should we say? &#8230; It&#8217;s a convention, but words &#8230; In one of his Aphorisms, Sri Aurobindo said that atheism is necessary to counterbalance religions which had caused so much damage! &#8230; [[240 &#8211; &quot;Atheism is a necessary protest against the wickedness of the Churches and the narrowness of creeds. God used it as a stone to smash these soiled cardhouses.&quot; ]]  And that&#8217;s why using the word &quot;God&quot; is unfortunate.<br \/>\n<P>Often I say &quot;Truth,&quot; often &quot;supreme Consciousness,&quot; but I am perfectly aware that it&#8217;s not the thing. &quot;Divinity&quot; too &#8230; The Ancients said That &#8211; but &Ccedil;a in French? &#8230;<br \/>\n<P><\/p>\n<p><i>It can be used, but not everywhere &#8230;. The rishis said, &quot;The Vast&quot;  <\/i><\/p>\n<p><i>[Brihat].<\/i><\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><P align=\"right\"><i>(after a silence)<\/i><br \/>\n<P>What might possibly best render the impression is &quot;the supreme Divinity,&quot; because that&#8217;s not too &#8230; I don&#8217;t know how to put it. Everything has a mental stamp, you can&#8217;t help it.<br \/>\n<P><\/p>\n<p><i>But the broadest word is still &quot;consciousness,&quot; &quot;the Supreme<\/i><\/p>\n<p><i>&nbsp;Consciousness.&quot;<\/i><\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><P align=\"center\"><font size=\"2\">Page 485<\/font><\/p>\n<hr>\n<p><P>Yes, but &quot;the Supreme Consciousness&quot; is perfect when we&#8217;re talking about the creation; the Supreme Consciousness is precisely what created, but (laughing) there is what&#8217;s beyond!<br \/>\n<P><\/p>\n<p><i>Beyond, it&#8217;s &quot;That.<\/i><\/p>\n<p><P>Yes.<br \/>\n<P><\/p>\n<p><i>We can often use the word &quot;That,&quot; with a capital T.<\/i><\/p>\n<p><P align=\"right\"><i>(Mother nods her head)<\/i><br \/>\n<P>In India&#8217;s languages, they have this OM &#8230; which is a marvel. You know what they say? That OM is the totality of the sounds of the creation perceived by the Supreme; He hears OM as a call to Him &#8211; as an idea, it&#8217;s magnificent! As a symbol, as a &#8230; Only &#8230;<br \/>\n<P><\/p>\n<p><i>And as a power! Not only as a symbol, but as a power.<\/i><\/p>\n<p><P>Oh, a tremendous power &#8211; tremendous. The first time I heard it &#8230; The first time I heard it &#8230; There was a certain Bernard who had spent a year in India, in the Himalayas, and he was visited by yogis whom he didn&#8217;t know (he lived in a hut in the Himalayas, all alone). One yogi came to see him; he didn&#8217;t say anything, he just sat by his side and then left. And that yogi simply told him, &quot;OM &#8230;&quot; Then he came back to France, recounted his experiences in India, and he said that. Me, I knew absolutely nothing of India at the time, and when he uttered the word OM &#8230; (Mother brings her arms down), it came: a Force like this, my whole, entire body, everything vibrated in an extraordinary way! It was like a revelation &#8211; everything, but everything started vibrating. Then I said, &quot;At last, here&#8217;s the true sound!&quot; Yet I knew nothing, absolutely nothing, neither what it meant nor anything.<br \/>\n<P align=\"right\"><i>(long silence)<\/i><br \/>\n<P>I forget who it was, I forget if it was a Russian or an Englishman, but he was well known: the creator of materialism in the world (I don&#8217;t remember who it was). And you know what he said? &#8230; He said (I forget in what language), &quot;I thank God for having made me an atheist-for having created me an atheist! &#8230;&quot;<br \/>\n<P>I found that charming. I read it in English: &quot;Thank God, he made me an atheist!&quot;<br \/>\n<P align=\"center\"><font size=\"2\">Page 486<\/font><\/p>\n<hr>\n<p><P align=\"center\">&nbsp;<P align=\"center\"><\/p>\n<p><p align=\"center\">***<\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><P><i>Towards the end<\/i><br \/>\n<P>One small thing. This body has become very, very sensitive. If someone comes displeased with something I did or said (I don&#8217;t know what kind of thing, but it has happened with three people with whom the contact is ordinarily quite good) &#8230; It&#8217;s something quite recent. This (Mother points to her forehead) is silent, there&#8217;s nothing, no perception, and then, all of a sudden, all the nerves (the body&#8217;s nerves) are as if tortured. And it comes from the person who&#8217;s there &#8211; and who shows all the signs of devotion and so on, absolutely no external sign, no spoken or direct manifestation: all the nerves are tortured. That illness I had in France when I left India and went back &#8211; it&#8217;s the same thing [now], only, extremely acute. Then, when the person is gone and I go within (either alone or with other people who are here), it slowly dies down and goes away.<br \/>\n<P>It&#8217;s the exact indication of people when they are displeased (displeased with what I said or with what I did, or with the way the Divine treats them through someone else, or &#8230;), and it&#8217;s their displeasure which causes that. People with quite different characters, all three of them, quite a different position, quite different thoughts &#8230;. So I wondered: is this really the action of what&#8217;s conventionally called the &quot;adverse forces&quot; through people?<br \/>\n<P>I am studying that.<br \/>\n<P>It&#8217;s unexpected; I know they are coming, but I don&#8217;t expect it at all to be that way, it doesn&#8217;t correspond to anything at all-suddenly, bah! babah! &#8230; (gesture of pain) And when they go away, it calms down; when I concentrate in the true consciousness, then it dies down and the nerves recover. That&#8217;s what is called &quot;neuritis,&quot; it&#8217;s the nerves that are sick.<br \/>\n<P>I had it in France, because when I went away from here, I left my psychic<br \/>\nbeing here, so that was the result &#8230;. It&#8217;s something &#8230; it&#8217;s an influence<br \/>\nthat cuts off, that must cut off the body from its contact with the Divine,<br \/>\nprobably It&#8217;s under study, you understand. I wasn&#8217;t saying anything about it<br \/>\nbecause it&#8217;s still under study But the first time it happened was rather long<br \/>\nago, more than a month ago; [[On November 12, see the conversation of that date.<br \/>\n]] the last time was yesterday &#8211; three times it has happened. Three absolutely,<br \/>\nabsolutely different people: different in character,<P align=\"center\"><br \/>\n<font size=\"2\">Page 487<\/font><\/p>\n<hr>\n<p><P>&nbsp;in occupation, in everything, in relationship too.<br \/>\n<P>It will yield the secret of something. 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