{"id":6796,"date":"2013-07-13T02:09:41","date_gmt":"2013-07-13T02:09:41","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/localhost\/?p=6796"},"modified":"2013-07-13T02:09:41","modified_gmt":"2013-07-13T02:09:41","slug":"55-august-6-1969-vol-10-volume-10","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/worksofthemotherandsriaurobindo.org\/index.php\/02-works-of-the-mother\/03-agenda\/10-volume-10\/55-august-6-1969-vol-10-volume-10","title":{"rendered":"55_August 6_1969.htm"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><H3>August 6, 1969<\/H3><br \/>\n<P align=\"center\"><\/p>\n<p><i>(After studying various matters of printing,<br \/>\n  Mother<\/i><\/p>\n<p><i>&nbsp;abruptly asks:)<\/i><\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><P>I&#8217;d like to ask you a material detail: have you enough cheese for one week?!<br \/>\n<P><\/p>\n<p><i>Yes, yes, Mother.<\/i><\/p>\n<p><P>Are you sure? &#8230; Because cheese is good for you. If you want more, there&#8217;s nothing easier &#8230;<br \/>\n<P align=\"right\"><i>(Mother peers at Satprem&#8217;s face)<\/i><br \/>\n<P>Ah, it&#8217;s yes! (To Sujata) Go and ask for a box.<br \/>\n<P><\/p>\n<p><i>You think of everything!<\/i><\/p>\n<p><P>You know, I don&#8217;t &quot;think,&quot; but things come like this (gesture as if on a screen). All of a sudden I see, so it must be true, it&#8217;s not my imagination.<br \/>\n<P><\/p>\n<p><i>Yet it&#8217;s not in my consciousness!<\/i><\/p>\n<p><P>Ah, mon petit, I see much more than what you&#8217;re aware of! (Mother laughs) It&#8217;s in your subconscient.<br \/>\n<P>Have you some news of P.L.?<br \/>\n<P><\/p>\n<p><i>No, he is supposed to arrive any day now.<\/i><\/p>\n<p><P>(Sujata comes back with the box) Here! Eat it, cheese is good for you.<br \/>\n<P><\/p>\n<p><i>If one could be more conscious &#8230;<\/i><\/p>\n<p><P>Yes!<br \/>\n<P><\/p>\n<p><i>But I don&#8217;t know how to do it! &lt;<\/i><\/p>\n<p align=\"center\">\n  <font size=\"2\">Page 279<\/font><\/p>\n<hr>\n<p><P>(Mother laughs) &#8230; Last night, I spent the whole night with Sri Aurobindo somewhere, I don&#8217;t know where, but there were lots of people. The two of us were alone, but we saw a multitude of people pass by But the peculiar thing is that when I wake up, it doesn&#8217;t go away! And when I lie down again, it&#8217;s there, just where I had left it: it goes on. There&#8217;s no longer a &#8230; You know, in dreams, you have a dream, and then (gesture of breaking off to another level), the consciousness you&#8217;re in suddenly changes, and it&#8217;s over, you have to make an effort to recapture your dream or the state-but this doesn&#8217;t budge! It doesn&#8217;t budge, it&#8217;s there like this (Mother slips the fingers of one hand between those of the other), all the time: it goes on, whether I concern myself with it or not.<br \/>\n<P>It&#8217;s rather new.<br \/>\n<P>I no longer feel I am dreaming, you understand: it&#8217;s an activity I grow conscious of.<br \/>\n<P>But Sri Aurobindo was &#8230; it&#8217;s odd, he looked as if younger. He was happy, and very amused, passing all kinds of remarks &#8211; remarks full of humor, you know! &#8211; about things and people. I noticed he was &#8230; as if brighter, I don&#8217;t know how to put it.<br \/>\n<P>Last night it was very particular. I no longer have the impression of dreaming, no longer at all. It no longer has anything to do with a dream: it&#8217;s an activity that goes on and on. If I remain very tranquil, like that, it goes on.<br \/>\n<P align=\"right\"><i>(long silence)<\/i><br \/>\n<P>In the end, it&#8217;s all a question of consciousness.<br \/>\n<P>The body is growing INTENSELY conscious of what responds to the true Influence, and what&#8217;s still the residue of habit and the universal, terrestrial development (general, terrestrial), very conscious. Sometimes, it&#8217;s &#8230; almost painful, you know, that old way of being.<br \/>\n<P>And at certain times, the vision is almost veiled, as though I were seeing through a veil; at other times it&#8217;s ABSOLUTELY precise. I can&#8217;t believe it depends on the eyes.<br \/>\n<P>With some people, when they come I see them absolutely precise; with others, I hardly see, hardly perceive where their eyes are, or their mouth &#8230;. It must depend on something else.<br \/>\n<P><\/p>\n<p><i>(Mother goes into a long contemplation<\/i><\/p>\n<p><i>&nbsp;lasting till the time when Satprem <\/i>\n  <\/p>\n<p><i>normally leaves)  <\/i><\/p>\n<p align=\"center\"><font size=\"2\">Page 280<\/font><\/p>\n<hr>\n<p><P>What did you feel just now?<br \/>\n<P><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><P>Nothing special?<br \/>\n<P><\/p>\n<p><i>I always feel the Power, there, present.<\/i><\/p>\n<p><P>It was that world I was telling you about &#8230; as if it wanted to ENTER into this world (and there is indeed a great power in it), and, I don&#8217;t know how to explain &#8230; as if it wanted to force its way into this world. And it came &#8230; (you know, it comes without the least personal will, I am like this [still, silent gesture]), it comes and IMPOSES itself, it settles with such power. And the relationship with things and people and the consciousness works differently It came very strongly, and you were IN it: you weren&#8217;t outside, you were in it. So I was hoping you had felt something.<br \/>\n<P><\/p>\n<p><i>It&#8217;s always the Power that I feel.<\/i><\/p>\n<p><P>It&#8217;s like that, yes.<br \/>\n<P><\/p>\n<p><i>But instead of a transformation as we imagine it, won&#8217;t it be<br \/>\n  a<\/i><\/p>\n<p><i>&nbsp;sort of invasion by this subtle world, which will pierce the<br \/>\n  veil,<\/i><\/p>\n<p><i>&nbsp;the barrier, and will enter, will manifest in the physical world?<\/i><\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><P>It may well be &#8230;. It may well be!<br \/>\n<P><\/p>\n<p><i>Because a few days ago, I read again a text of Sri Aurobindo<br \/>\n  with<\/i><\/p>\n<p><i>&nbsp;quite a different understanding &#8230;.<\/i><\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><P>Ah, what text?<br \/>\n<P><\/p>\n<p><i>It was a very &quot;Ordinary&quot; text (I&#8217;ve brought it with me), in<br \/>\n  &quot;The<\/i><\/p>\n<p><i>&nbsp;Riddle of this World.&quot;<\/i><\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><P>Ah!<br \/>\n<P><\/p>\n<p><i>And at the end, he says this, which he said many times but<\/i><\/p>\n<p><i>&nbsp;which I understand differently: &quot;His [mental man &#8216;s] full libera<\/i><\/p>\n<p><i>tion and enlightenment will come when he crosses the line into<\/i><\/p>\n<p><i>&nbsp;the light of a new superconscient existence &#8230;.&quot; And then he<br \/>\n  says:<\/i><\/p>\n<p align=\"center\"><font size=\"2\">&nbsp;Page 281<\/font><\/p>\n<hr>\n<p><P><\/p>\n<p><i>&quot;But in itself this would change nothing in the creation here,<br \/>\n  the<\/i><\/p>\n<p><i>&nbsp;evasion of a liberated soul from the world makes to that<br \/>\n  world<\/i><\/p>\n<p><i>&nbsp;no difference. But this crossing of the line if turned not only to<\/i><\/p>\n<p><i>&nbsp;an ascending but to a descending purpose would mean the trans<\/i><\/p>\n<p><i>formation of the line from what it now is, a lid, a barrier, into a<\/i><\/p>\n<p><i>&nbsp;passage for the higher powers of consciousness of the Being now<\/i><\/p>\n<p><i>&nbsp;above it &#8230;.&quot;<\/i><\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><P>Ooh! &#8230; It seems to be that.<br \/>\n<P><\/p>\n<p><i>Yes! I understood it differently, but one may understand that<br \/>\n  &#8230; <\/i><\/p>\n<p><i>this subtle world will break the screen, or the barrier, and will<\/i><\/p>\n<p><i>&nbsp;be able to manifest physically!<\/i><\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><P>Yes, that&#8217;s what seems to want to happen &#8230;. Because just now, it was so imperative.<br \/>\n<P align=\"right\"><i>(silence)<\/i><br \/>\n<P>The only thing is to know whether the phenomenon will be perceptible only to certain consciousnesses, or perceptible to all? &#8230; Just now, for example, I &#8230; it wasn&#8217;t just felt: it&#8217;s a sort of vision, a sort of &#8230; as if the atmosphere had changed; and I asked you precisely because I wanted to know whether I alone had noticed it, or if you were &#8230;<br \/>\n<P><\/p>\n<p><i>But I only feel the Power, always.<\/i><\/p>\n<p><P>It&#8217;s curious, it&#8217;s as if &#8230; the nature of images were changing, I don&#8217;t know how to explain.<br \/>\n<P align=\"right\"><i>(silence)<\/i><br \/>\n<P><\/p>\n<p><i>And at the end, he says that if this line, this barrier could<br \/>\n  be<\/i><\/p>\n<p><i>&nbsp;turned into a passage for the higher powers, &quot; &#8230; It would<br \/>\n  mean<\/i><\/p>\n<p><i>&nbsp;a new creation on earth, a bringing in of the ultimate powers <\/i>\n  <\/p>\n<p><i>which would reverse the conditions here.&quot; [[&quot;The Riddle of this World&quot;<br \/>\n  (July 1933) in Letters on Yoga, 22.31. ]] <\/i><\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><P><\/p>\n<p><i>Yes, it&#8217;s obviously that. It&#8217;s obviously that.<\/i><\/p>\n<p><P><\/p>\n<p><i>But until now, all that was understood as vague phenomena of<\/i><\/p>\n<p><i>&nbsp;consciousness<br \/>\n  up above, but if it&#8217;s a manifestation of the &#8230;<\/i><\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><P align=\"center\"><font size=\"2\">Page 282<\/font><\/p>\n<hr>\n<p><P>Ah, no, its HERE.<br \/>\n<P><\/p>\n<p><i>Yes.<\/i><\/p>\n<p><P>But that&#8217;s it: it&#8217;s something that PRESSES to be manifested. I told you, at night I felt that. And then you wake up and its THERE, it hasn&#8217;t budged; you don&#8217;t MOVE from one world into the other: the two consciousnesses are together (Mother slips the fingers of her right hand between those of her left hand). The ordinary consciousness seems artificial, and it&#8217;s &quot;dominating&quot; &#8211; but it&#8217;s NOT truer, it&#8217;s less true. Last night, it was very, very clear.<br \/>\n<P>It makes for wonderful nights, mon petit! You don&#8217;t sleep, yet you are much more rested than if you slept.<br \/>\n<P>But the ordinary consciousness is becoming a bit cumbersome, a bit painful, physically so.<br \/>\n<P>Oh, it&#8217;s interesting, I think we&#8217;ve caught the tail of something!<br \/>\n<P><\/p>\n<p><i>Yes, yes, it feels like that!<\/i><\/p>\n<p><P>We&#8217;ll see! 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