{"id":6890,"date":"2013-07-13T02:10:12","date_gmt":"2013-07-13T02:10:12","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/localhost\/?p=6890"},"modified":"2013-07-13T02:10:12","modified_gmt":"2013-07-13T02:10:12","slug":"75-november-3-1962-vol-03-volume-03","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/worksofthemotherandsriaurobindo.org\/index.php\/02-works-of-the-mother\/03-agenda\/03-volume-03\/75-november-3-1962-vol-03-volume-03","title":{"rendered":"-75_November 3_1962.htm"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><H3 align=\"center\">November<\/H3><\/p>\n<p><H3>November 3, 1962<\/H3><br \/>\n<P align=\"center\"><i>(Mother asks Satprem how he is. He did not keep his reply.)<\/i><br \/>\n<P>&#8230; But it&#8217;s all right, mon petit, it&#8217;s going well. And physically?<\/p>\n<p><i>Not so good.<\/i><\/p>\n<p><P>Are you eating enough?<\/p>\n<p><i>Yes, yes.<\/i><\/p>\n<p><P>Are you sure?<\/p>\n<p><i>It&#8217;s more a sort of weariness. I spend terrible nights in the subconscient. Over the past six months there&#8217;s been a really abrupt change in my dreams. Previously I would remember something once in a while; now I remember nothing except the subconscient, and what a subconscient! I&#8217;m lucky when it&#8217;s not hellish.<\/i><\/p>\n<p><P>Mon petit, from that point of view my nights are abominable too &#8211; they can&#8217;t really be abominable because I live in beatitude, but what I see, what I am forced to see each night is horrible. Just horrible. It seems like an attempt to make me thoroughly disgusted with my work. The subconscient is really a mass of horrors. And it&#8217;s been going on like this for at least six months.<\/p>\n<p><i>It&#8217;s a hell of a thing to wake up with!<\/i><\/p>\n<p><P>Yes, it&#8217;s always when you wake up. It&#8217;s always the last thing that comes &#8211; and what things! If I told you some of them, you&#8217;d see, oh&#8230;. Of course, I sort them out. I do what&#8217;s needed and then sweep them away.<\/p>\n<p><i>At times it&#8217;s hellish, certain beings and situations&#8230;.<\/i><\/p>\n<p><P>Yes, frightful, unimaginable situations and ways of being.<br \/>\n<P align=\"right\"><i>(silence) <\/i><br \/>\n<P align=\"center\"><font size=\"2\">Page 405<\/font><\/p>\n<hr>\n<p><P>But I deliberately come into contact with these things. When I &#8220;walk&#8221; in the morning for japa, it&#8217;s all systematically put under the supreme Influence, it gets cleared up and sorted out. Some good work gets done.<br \/>\n<P>We mustn&#8217;t see these things as inescapable, but rather take them as indications of what&#8217;s being changed.<\/p>\n<p><i>But it seems endless.<\/i><\/p>\n<p><P>Yes! <i>(Mother laughs) <\/i>Yes, it seems absolutely limitless.<\/p>\n<p><i>It could go on like that for centuries.<\/i><\/p>\n<p><P>That&#8217;s how it seems, bottomless and limitless, combined in ever new and equally horrible ways. But it&#8217;s not true: it does change. It does change.<br \/>\n<P>And what inventions &#8211; sheer horror! Really, the people who are in contact with that world and express it on earth, it&#8217;s appalling the inventions they can make. Oh, the tortures men have invented, the things they&#8217;ve done &#8211; you can&#8217;t believe it&#8217;s real. And it all comes from that subconscient world, which means it is indispensable to clean it out.<br \/>\n<P>But &#8230; oh, what a tough work! And thankless too. Thankless because no sooner do you think you&#8217;ve come to the end of something (not that you really think so, you know what it&#8217;s like there, but you still hope &#8230;), than it comes back in another form, which seems even worse than the previous one.<br \/>\n<P>We must have endurance, mon petit.<br \/>\n<P>And sometimes it becomes terribly personal, as if you were being personally attacked. I have a whole &#8220;theme&#8221; of such things which can&#8217;t even be spoken about because they&#8217;re too personal &#8211; personal in that they appear to involve this body. Last night (ah, by the way, I remember noticing I was physically young &#8211; it was in the subtle physical, of course, and I was quite young) &#8230; but what a life I led, with so many &#8230; oh, revolutions, battles; I was involved in everything, there was tremendous activity. But I was being personally harassed by four or five of the most vile and disgusting old swine, and I had to confront them, hold them in place, keep them under control and make them obey&#8230;. Ohh, was I glad to wake up! (It was time to get up; these things always stop automatically because I make it a point to get out of there at four-thirty) But the images, the sensations that went along with it&#8230;.<br \/>\n<P align=\"center\"><font size=\"2\">Page 406<\/font><\/p>\n<hr>\n<p><P>Oh, how is it possible! And I was fully conscious of the usefulness of this work: I was keeping them under control. [[In the next conversation, Mother added: &#8220;For example, if someone wants to enter some place, you needn&#8217;t say, &#8216;Don&#8217;t enter&#8217;; you do what&#8217;s necessary and he cannot enter, he tries but he can&#8217;t &#8211; that&#8217;s what I call &#8216;keeping under control.&#8217; I didn&#8217;t need to speak to or touch them: the Force was doing the work.&#8221; ]] But the things it involves &#8230; ugh! Because for me, all knowledge is through identity &#8211; even in the subconscient it&#8217;s a knowledge through identity &#8211; so you can imagine what that means&#8230;.<\/p>\n<p><i>Yes&#8230; oh, there are some horrible beings there!<\/i><\/p>\n<p><P>Horrible <i>(Mother laughs).<\/i><br \/>\n<P>All right.<br \/>\n<P>You don&#8217;t know how to call me &#8230; or don&#8217;t you want to?<\/p>\n<p><i>I just don&#8217;t remember!<\/i><\/p>\n<p><P>That&#8217;s a shame. If you could remember and call me&#8230;.<\/p>\n<p><i>I&#8217;m more like a witness, watching what&#8217;s happening to me. When it gets to be too much I wake up, but otherwise I stay there watching, watching &#8211; a witness.<\/i><\/p>\n<p><P>Haven&#8217;t you ever tried before falling asleep&#8230;.<\/p>\n<p><i>Of course I have! Before going to sleep I always ask to be conscious and to receive whatever you send me.<\/i><\/p>\n<p><P>No, you must ask to remember to call me when the situation gets unpleasant <i>(Mother laughs)<\/i>; that has rescued people so many, many times, right in the midst of their nightly activity &#8211; not at the moment they woke up, no: right in their nighttime consciousness they have seen the results within and around them. Take the story of D., who couldn&#8217;t get back into his body and called me; it really does have an effect, especially on that sort of beings. Thank God <i>(laughing) <\/i>they&#8217;re afraid of me &#8211; I have an effect on them.<br \/>\n<P>Ah, it&#8217;s interesting. We have to endure, that&#8217;s all.<br \/>\n<P>We have to endure. And have courage.<br \/>\n<P>Au revoir, petit.<br \/>\n<P align=\"center\"><font size=\"2\">Page 407<\/font><P> <\/p>\n<p><\/b><\/p>\n<p align=\"right\" style=\"margin-top: 0;margin-bottom: 0\">&nbsp;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>November November 3, 1962 (Mother asks Satprem how he is. 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